MrGawain

The fact that they were moving to show they were still awake proves they weren’t real.

Releasing this information was fine- but it only needed to be in a press release. Posting it on YouTube where the whole point of the platform is to show moving pictures of stuff was a big mistake. Very few customers and fans needed such an in depth explanation of how SSD works, and I bet most developers didn’t need the concept explained to them either.

The question is if product (like the PS5, XB2, and BOTW2) will be delayed due to the corona virus?

Because if they don't have stuff to release in 2020, why do they need a presentation or conference?

Seeing the start they had, and the fact MS started selling the few exclusives they had on PC this isn’t surprising.

The only thing I question about the next gen is can we compare who is ‘winning’ if you can play the exclusives elsewhere, and if such expensive machines will be sold at a loss? If that’s so, then getting people to play on PC is actually more cost effective to the manufacturers, and less cost inhibitive to the market.

It’s like Okami meets Bayonetta, except you’re a group of Super Heroes instead of a Wolf with a paintbrush, and you stop time when you dodge correctly but you can’t move the camera to see a witches’ bum.

And I think it’s a lot like Dark Souls in if you ‘get gud’ with the gameplay, you’ll enjoy it. Either it clicks or it doesn’t.

Little Town Hero. The Wonderful 101. Cuphead. Travis Strikes Again. Daemon X Machina. Ori And The Blind Forest. Disgaea 5. And Possibly Persona 5 and Horizon Zero Dawn.

If it needs to sell more, I think anything is up for a port these days.

I wonder if this sort of acquisition really makes financial sense? Okay, so they bought a small amount of IP, and probably an office and computers, but what makes the magic is the employees. If in an amount of time the really creative people decide to leave, what do you really have?

It’s like when Microsoft bought Rare, most of the original talent left to work elsewhere and MS was left with just the name and some IP they never use.

Obviously a patent doesn’t mean Sony will use an idea like this, but being too open about over selling micro transactions isn’t a good look to launch your console with. Microsoft learned that you don’t want to look like the bad guy when releasing a console with the XB1, you would hope Sony wouldn’t be too cocky to think they could get away with a similar launch for the PS5.

There’s a massive crossover audience for Spongebob and The Last Of Us due to similar themes.

The way budgets are going in the gaming industry, it makes sense that companies are going to pay for development by allowing as many people as possible to purchase it. This is the price of flashy graphics.

Seeing everyone is talking about the PS5 BECAUSE Sony are skipping E3, I see it to be a sound business strategy.

The only thing I question is if this will damage Sony’s relationship with 3rd parties like Activision and Ubisoft, which we’ll find out at Microsoft’s and Sony’s conferences.

Obviously there is a screen on the bottom, and you can tear the prongs off the DualShock and attach them to each side of the giant V and use it as a handheld.

Ask yourself if the PS4 really was that brilliant last gen (in comparison to the PS1’s, 2’s, and 3’s lineup of games), or if the XB1 was dog poo awful? I would argue the XB1’s unique software was the worst since Sega Saturn.

Realistically Xbox can’t be that bad this year, but to really challenge it needs a few equivalent we’ll known exclusive titles like what PS4 had in Spider-Man. And early in it’s lifespan.

Google Stadia will be propped up by 99% of youtube and twitch gamers who will buy the service just to show how good/how rubbish the service is to their subscribers.

I’m starting to think Kojima is the Anti-Miyamoto. They live at two ends of the spectrum of what a game should be.

In the UK at least, Netflix doesn’t have 12 months of continuous content. Not being one to care to watch things immediately, I just buy Netflix cards when enough stuff that I’m interested in comes to the platform and there isn’t anything better to watch on terrestrial telly.

I can see a back and forth system of maybe 3 months at at time of active Disney and Netflix subscription for me.

Looking at the Metacritic review scores (83), it looks like it’s a pretty divisive game. Several flawless reviews dragged down by a few averages and god awfuls.

I think I’ll let the dust settle to see how it really pans out.

The PS5 and XB2 will need great games straight away because they’ll be competing with the Switch and PS4 which both have huge libraries. Also with costs going up to produce flasher graphics, I wonder if they’ll be less triple A games overall released? Plus with backwards compatibility being a thing this year, I wonder if we’ll get less remasters?

I guess the game cost a fortune to make, and perhaps is a little to niche (or age restricted) to make it’s money back alone on the PS4. Which is the complaint Konami had about Kojima’s Metal Gear Solid 5 if I remember correctly?

Not saying it won’t be good for it’s audience, just it may be too weird to garner a Spier-Man sized player base.

So they spent more money developing than they think it will sell on the PS4?

For me games sell consoles. Until there are enough games I’m interested in, I really don’t see a reason to get excited.

Curious to see if they follow the Switch/BOTW launch combo. PS4 and XB1 had rubbish launch line ups, and for most of the first year.

In comparison to the PS3 and Xbox 360, the PS4 and XB1 haven’t had half as much to play late cycle (or anything mid cycle in the XB1’s case). But then the XB1 and PS4 launched with very little worth playing because of this. You get the feeling the PS5 and XB2 will launch with far sturdier lineups as everyone holds their stuff back. The lack of games is also made worse by seeing how much is coming out on the Switch at the moment.

In conclusion: State of Play only worthwhile if they have enough stuff worth to discuss.

It’s the B button. The X button is the top one.

But can anyone explain why it always updates when I want to play that particular game... and why 2 year old single player games still need updates?

I think the strategic manoeuvre Nintendo have pulled off is having a console people own for a change with a great handheld selling point and a great library, and then continue putting a well made game on it at the end of every month. Fire Emblem is really fun and being on the Switch means you aren’t limited to playing it in front of a TV. I wouldn’t be surprised if Astral Chain also goes to No 1 as well.

Currently my PS4 is a Netflix player.

Slightly sad to see a platform that allows users to bring their own unique creations to life, and they end up remaking 20-30 year old games.

The problem with the Vita wasn’t the machine itself, and it wasn’t 3rd party support.

The problem with the Vita is the games Sony is geared up to make don’t really work on a limited power device with a small screen, designed for short bursts of action instead of long story scenes.

The Switch works and Ninty’s other handhelds work because make games that fit naturally in that headspace.

The eject button just fell off my PS4. I could say ‘perfect time to buy the pro’, but in reality I’m sick to death of the thing ghost ejecting constantly and don’t trust Sony after 2 PS1’s, a PS2, a DVD player, and CD-R have all lasted less than 4 years each.

The reason we get mid gen update consoles is to hide that the previous one had such a short expiration date in the first place.

The frame rate on the return to Arkham collection was vomit inducing. I played through it as the only way I could experience Arkham Asylum, but the cluster headache made me hate what is generally agreed to be a fantastic game.

@3MonthBeef

But my point is 18 months out they’ve made a big song and dance announcing specs and who they’re competing with and who their product is for, but it’s just general waffle. How can you start think about if you want to buy something on it’s specs when A: you don’t know what they can actually achieve with these specs in reference to games, and B: Am I actually going to get a good deal for this box with these specs? Is it just an equivalent to an overpriced off the shelf bundle PC? It should have be announced all together A LOT closer to launch (Say 4-6 months).

The truth is they have to say something to keep their brands in the news because very little is going on in the world of PlayStation 4 (and even more so XBox One) at the moment- but without context we just have some numbers and people constantly saying ray tracing without actually knowing what that will look like on this box and if we’ll be overcharged for it.

I must admit, the fact they’ve released all these specs and marketing strategies probably 18 months away from release has absolutely turned me cold on the PS5 and the XB2. The fact they’ve avoided saying about games and pricing yet hasn’t enthused me that I need this thing immediately, or maybe even ever.

Both Sony and Microsoft are vamping at the moment because the next year and a half doesn’t have much in the way of inspiring releases. If Stadia releases in any competent form in October, the two big boys could lose a segment of their fans while we wait for next gen (Not me though, I’ll be playing stuff all year on the Switch).

Because Final Fantasy plotlines are so focused and logical they are just screaming out to be adapted for television.

“...Turns out he wasn’t a real person after all.”

I am someone who has not seen a PS5 working. I’m betting Inaba has. I can’t discount his opinion because I haven’t got the experience he has. And until I see games I want to play on the thing I’m betting I won’t be excited about it.

Not entirely you can take much from this. It doesn't say if it was positive or negative stories. That's neither a good or bad thing- it's just a thing for the time being.

I wonder how much more games will cost to develop for the PS5/XB2? You’ve got to think that with all that potential it’ll take more resources and man hours to live up to the specs.

Does not being at E3 hurt Playstation? Nope.
Does Playstation not being at E3 hurt Microsoft or Nintendo? No.

But it does hurt all those companies selling one game without the power of Bethesda or Ubisoft behind them. Just think of how the Dragonball games' profile was raised by being on the Microsoft conference or how Nintendo have made indie games like Steamworld in the past. Without Sony pushing those sorts of games to big audiences, there is a chance they'll disappear and that makes for less variety.

I know I don't want to live in a world were 3rd party is just the same shooting games from Ubisoft and Bethesda.

A lot to get excited for in Square’s presentation, but I wan’t particularly impressed with this. Very ropey character models and voices.

1.55 They’ve got egg and chips in the game? Sold.

I get the feeling a lot of companies are saving their best ideas for Next Gen. At least the western ones.

Thank Miyamoto for the Switch.

It’s likely to be 18 months away, so you could assume those parts will cost less than they do now.

Still think around £500 is about right.

Was it better than Playstation's showing?

Yes.

Both Microsoft and Sony are in the same boat to end the generation, 3 or so big 1st party games until the next thing comes along which will you’ll undoubtedly be able to play those three games on with better graphics. If you haven’t bought an XB1 yet (like me), you aren’t going to buy one now.

The most interesting thing they said however was their Streaming Service was starting up a month before Google’s Stadia. As someone without a horse in the race, I’m still curious to see which (or both) of them will end up with a bloody nose, and if Sony (or even Nintendo) will join them.

Let's be honest: it's getting a remaster to sell it to owners of a certain handheld system, and they're porting it to the PS4 as well because why not. RPG's work incredibly well on the Switch because you can play them on a bus and they aren't graphically intensive or need a lot of fast reactions.

As far as I can see Stadia is for affluent people who have super fast broadband but have never played a videogame but would like to try Assassins Creed. To me it doesn’t seem particularly cheap, reliable, needs you to be quite tech savvy, and offers nothing in the way of desirable 1st party offerings like Mario, Halo, or Uncharted.

And be honest, if you like video games chances are you’re buying a system because you want to play those particular games instead of the slightly wonky 3rd party stuff.

I do find it very odd that we all in this day and age (myself included) care more about news than actual content. You could argue that reveals and trailers and spoilers and discussion videos actually drain us of excitement by the time the product finally arrives. Even something like Game Of Thrones had so much speculation and investigation that we had all built up a story 10 times greater in our heads than what we got.

Personally I think we need to shorten the hype schedule and if Sony haven’t got anything to sell to us, we should just accept that. I would much prefer the PS5 to arrive with something worthwhile to play from the get go than potential and cutscene trailers.

Personally I don’t think it’s my sort of thing, but I am curious to see if it joins the 10m+ club. Or is it a lot more niche than GOW, Spider-Man and Uncharted?

I do question how far into the PS5’s life it will be when we’ll get an exclusive PS5 title not on the PS4? Because it sort of makes sense for 3rd party at least to just make PS4 games. Making a PS5 exclusive game will have greater development costs due to having to make everything shiny for all those K’s you need to show off on the telly, AND will have a much smaller possible customer pool to sell to.

At the moment I can’t really picture in my mind what radical improvement/difference the PS5 can bring to the PS4. The Switch brought me something better than the Wii U and solved a problem I didn’t know I had. Improved graphics will only have so much impact on a guy with a crappy TV and scratched glasses.

Not saying the PS5 won’t be fantastic, or bring new ideas, but at the moment I’m a little cold to a new console until I see it with my own eyes.

Beyond being judged against MK8, what bad planning for both Sonic Kart and Crash Kart to release within weeks of each other.

I've enjoyed my PS4 for it's spectacle gaming, but a lot of the time it's like watching a film on a TV than playing a quick game. Western developers are big on cinematics where you don't touch the controller for 10 minutes.

I like the Switch as it's more about immediate fun- just as the majority of the Japanese games I play. I wonder if that's something baked into japanese gaming culture?