MrGawain

I think the strategic manoeuvre Nintendo have pulled off is having a console people own for a change with a great handheld selling point and a great library, and then continue putting a well made game on it at the end of every month. Fire Emblem is really fun and being on the Switch means you aren’t limited to playing it in front of a TV. I wouldn’t be surprised if Astral Chain also goes to No 1 as well.

Currently my PS4 is a Netflix player.

Slightly sad to see a platform that allows users to bring their own unique creations to life, and they end up remaking 20-30 year old games.

The problem with the Vita wasn’t the machine itself, and it wasn’t 3rd party support.

The problem with the Vita is the games Sony is geared up to make don’t really work on a limited power device with a small screen, designed for short bursts of action instead of long story scenes.

The Switch works and Ninty’s other handhelds work because make games that fit naturally in that headspace.

The eject button just fell off my PS4. I could say ‘perfect time to buy the pro’, but in reality I’m sick to death of the thing ghost ejecting constantly and don’t trust Sony after 2 PS1’s, a PS2, a DVD player, and CD-R have all lasted less than 4 years each.

The reason we get mid gen update consoles is to hide that the previous one had such a short expiration date in the first place.

The frame rate on the return to Arkham collection was vomit inducing. I played through it as the only way I could experience Arkham Asylum, but the cluster headache made me hate what is generally agreed to be a fantastic game.

@3MonthBeef

But my point is 18 months out they’ve made a big song and dance announcing specs and who they’re competing with and who their product is for, but it’s just general waffle. How can you start think about if you want to buy something on it’s specs when A: you don’t know what they can actually achieve with these specs in reference to games, and B: Am I actually going to get a good deal for this box with these specs? Is it just an equivalent to an overpriced off the shelf bundle PC? It should have be announced all together A LOT closer to launch (Say 4-6 months).

The truth is they have to say something to keep their brands in the news because very little is going on in the world of PlayStation 4 (and even more so XBox One) at the moment- but without context we just have some numbers and people constantly saying ray tracing without actually knowing what that will look like on this box and if we’ll be overcharged for it.

I must admit, the fact they’ve released all these specs and marketing strategies probably 18 months away from release has absolutely turned me cold on the PS5 and the XB2. The fact they’ve avoided saying about games and pricing yet hasn’t enthused me that I need this thing immediately, or maybe even ever.

Both Sony and Microsoft are vamping at the moment because the next year and a half doesn’t have much in the way of inspiring releases. If Stadia releases in any competent form in October, the two big boys could lose a segment of their fans while we wait for next gen (Not me though, I’ll be playing stuff all year on the Switch).

Because Final Fantasy plotlines are so focused and logical they are just screaming out to be adapted for television.

“...Turns out he wasn’t a real person after all.”

I am someone who has not seen a PS5 working. I’m betting Inaba has. I can’t discount his opinion because I haven’t got the experience he has. And until I see games I want to play on the thing I’m betting I won’t be excited about it.

Not entirely you can take much from this. It doesn't say if it was positive or negative stories. That's neither a good or bad thing- it's just a thing for the time being.

I wonder how much more games will cost to develop for the PS5/XB2? You’ve got to think that with all that potential it’ll take more resources and man hours to live up to the specs.

Does not being at E3 hurt Playstation? Nope.
Does Playstation not being at E3 hurt Microsoft or Nintendo? No.

But it does hurt all those companies selling one game without the power of Bethesda or Ubisoft behind them. Just think of how the Dragonball games' profile was raised by being on the Microsoft conference or how Nintendo have made indie games like Steamworld in the past. Without Sony pushing those sorts of games to big audiences, there is a chance they'll disappear and that makes for less variety.

I know I don't want to live in a world were 3rd party is just the same shooting games from Ubisoft and Bethesda.

A lot to get excited for in Square’s presentation, but I wan’t particularly impressed with this. Very ropey character models and voices.

1.55 They’ve got egg and chips in the game? Sold.

I get the feeling a lot of companies are saving their best ideas for Next Gen. At least the western ones.

Thank Miyamoto for the Switch.

It’s likely to be 18 months away, so you could assume those parts will cost less than they do now.

Still think around £500 is about right.

Was it better than Playstation's showing?

Yes.

Both Microsoft and Sony are in the same boat to end the generation, 3 or so big 1st party games until the next thing comes along which will you’ll undoubtedly be able to play those three games on with better graphics. If you haven’t bought an XB1 yet (like me), you aren’t going to buy one now.

The most interesting thing they said however was their Streaming Service was starting up a month before Google’s Stadia. As someone without a horse in the race, I’m still curious to see which (or both) of them will end up with a bloody nose, and if Sony (or even Nintendo) will join them.

Let's be honest: it's getting a remaster to sell it to owners of a certain handheld system, and they're porting it to the PS4 as well because why not. RPG's work incredibly well on the Switch because you can play them on a bus and they aren't graphically intensive or need a lot of fast reactions.

As far as I can see Stadia is for affluent people who have super fast broadband but have never played a videogame but would like to try Assassins Creed. To me it doesn’t seem particularly cheap, reliable, needs you to be quite tech savvy, and offers nothing in the way of desirable 1st party offerings like Mario, Halo, or Uncharted.

And be honest, if you like video games chances are you’re buying a system because you want to play those particular games instead of the slightly wonky 3rd party stuff.

I do find it very odd that we all in this day and age (myself included) care more about news than actual content. You could argue that reveals and trailers and spoilers and discussion videos actually drain us of excitement by the time the product finally arrives. Even something like Game Of Thrones had so much speculation and investigation that we had all built up a story 10 times greater in our heads than what we got.

Personally I think we need to shorten the hype schedule and if Sony haven’t got anything to sell to us, we should just accept that. I would much prefer the PS5 to arrive with something worthwhile to play from the get go than potential and cutscene trailers.

Personally I don’t think it’s my sort of thing, but I am curious to see if it joins the 10m+ club. Or is it a lot more niche than GOW, Spider-Man and Uncharted?

I do question how far into the PS5’s life it will be when we’ll get an exclusive PS5 title not on the PS4? Because it sort of makes sense for 3rd party at least to just make PS4 games. Making a PS5 exclusive game will have greater development costs due to having to make everything shiny for all those K’s you need to show off on the telly, AND will have a much smaller possible customer pool to sell to.

At the moment I can’t really picture in my mind what radical improvement/difference the PS5 can bring to the PS4. The Switch brought me something better than the Wii U and solved a problem I didn’t know I had. Improved graphics will only have so much impact on a guy with a crappy TV and scratched glasses.

Not saying the PS5 won’t be fantastic, or bring new ideas, but at the moment I’m a little cold to a new console until I see it with my own eyes.

Beyond being judged against MK8, what bad planning for both Sonic Kart and Crash Kart to release within weeks of each other.

I've enjoyed my PS4 for it's spectacle gaming, but a lot of the time it's like watching a film on a TV than playing a quick game. Western developers are big on cinematics where you don't touch the controller for 10 minutes.

I like the Switch as it's more about immediate fun- just as the majority of the Japanese games I play. I wonder if that's something baked into japanese gaming culture?

I get the feeling we’re in the period of the PS4 lifespan where we’ve hit the heights in the mid to mid-late section (Nier, Spider Man, God Of War etc...), and now everything else being judged against those games are never going to hit the same heights. I wouldn’t call it filler, just not as good as the glory days.

I bought Devil May Cry and enjoyed that, but nothing else really springs out to be worth my money.

I question if SF’s high jumping, projectile characters work in a 3D space, and if Tekken’s more realistic fighting characters work in a 2D space? Seems like you would have to alter the essence of the characters to get them to fit the other game.

To me it would be like putting Superman in Star Wars.

It’s pretty obvious Sony are waiting to see what the new XB is going to be before announcing anything else. From all the rumours Microsoft are going to have the more powerful machine, so the PlayStation is going to have to be a far more financially appealing option. Plus you’ll see Sony gazump a XB2 reveal by announcing some big titles launching with the PS5- they still are going to have a more diverse lineup than the FPS heavy XBox.

I'm okay with this, still haven't completed the game and looking to continue playing once the story is over to improve some of my ranks and find the hidden stuff.

@JoeBlogs

But to the average PS4 owner who is a borderline casual fan (me for example), I don't see the size of the horde. I see a browny-grey looking open world game where you shoot guns and try to avoid zombie monsters. It doesn't have a guy in a Spider suit or a guy with a big flying axe fighting ogres or robot dinosaurs. That's the sort of thing to get the non commited PS4 owner to part with their cash.

Not to say it won't be a great game, but it's a harder sell with this visual/genre hanging around it's neck.

The biggest problem this game has is it isn’t half as exciting as Spider-Man, or God Of War, or Horizon Zero Dawn.

It looks like a lot of other Zombie games before it, despite what the quality of the game is.

P S5

And because you can add a letter and get a rude word, it won’t be called that.

I’ll always remember that interview he had with the bare knuckle boxer when he asked if the guy could show him how he fought or something so he punched Dyer in the face.

Instead of it being a bunch of products that needed an advert, it felt like an advert that needed a bunch of products. If there wasn’t anything big enough to celebrate, why bother with such an elaborate set up?

The truth is XB1 is not a direct competitor to Nintendo. If you want to play high def shooters you own an XB1, if you want to play more quirky family friendly stuff that isn't so bothered with 4K but works as a handheld then you get a Switch. I think most people would agree Cuphead will sell better to the Nintendo audience so it being on the Switch helps the developer.

As for PS4, it's that middle console that's competing for both markets, so it's unsurprising that relations aren't so friendly.

I’ve bought it and I’m trying to teach my fingers it’s not Bayonetta.

“The most important things to remember about backstory are that (a) everyone has a history and (b) most of it isn’t very interesting."

-Stephen King.

Sony have every right to only allow what they want on their platform.

Just as we are in our rights to support or not support a company due to their business practises.

We all know the deal now: PS4 and XB1 gets games first to play in high graphical fidelity, then the Switch gets those games 6 months or so later for people to play on the go but less pretty and with a little extra to sweeten the deal for double dippers.

It’s just up to the consumer if you buy the early PS4/XB1 version, or wait in hope for it to come to Switch.

"The World is changing."

Like Sony is changing by not making any moe PS4 games beyond what's announced.

The white one isn’t really flattering on Spidey, is it? #doesmybumlookbiginthis?

COD. Battlefield. Battlefront. Halo. Titanfall. Rainbow 6. The Division. Over watch. Player Unknown. Warframe. Fortnite. Splatoon. Anthem coming. Dozens more. And Fallout 76!

Maybe... just maybe there may be more online shooters on the market than the market can support? Destiny cost a lot, so maybe Activision aren’t wrong in axing it with the thought of loot boxes being banned. Let’s be honest, cash will come before art because without cash art doesn’t get made.

If I were Bungie I wouldn’t be so certain that Destiny going forward is a viable business model- unless they plan to cut costs or change how the game is paid for- which isn’t so easy in this race to F2P these days.

Depends. When are they going to have something big and 1st party to sell?

If I sell hula hoops, and 99% of my customers have hula hoops, and I barely have anything new in hula hoop technology to flog for a year, why would I rent a market stall with barely any product on it? Same for Sony, most of the core games market owns a PS4 and they know about the last few bits to come out on it. Showing the same demo's again of those last 3 games is just going to annoy people, and obviously the PS5 isn't going to be ready this year.

In my opinion the next gen of the PS/XB war will be won on who has the best exclusive launch games on their system, which takes a page out of how successful Ninty was with a jam packed first year for the Switch. I doubt that one console or the other will be massively overpowered to the other, so Sony are holding back their big guns to get early adopters next gen- even if they are going to release the last 3 games on both the PS4 and PS5.

Playing through this after getting it for 20 quid in a sale. I'm enjoying it, although it is very stop and start from lots of things attacking to 2 minute dialogue scenes. where you have no control. It's more of a switching brawler game to animated movie thing.

I think about all the story games that I have loved enough to buy DLC for, and in every instance I’ve felt bored, short changed, duped, or just apathetic for another 5-10% of a lesser version of what I’ve just played. And they’ve actually tarnished my memory of what I’ve played.

Actually the only DLC I’ve been impressed by was Mario Kart 8.

Let’s be honest: at this stage in the life of the PS4 most people who wanted one have bought one, there is far less new games driving sales, an the PS5 is looming on the horizon.

What I do find interesting is how the list of Switch games are all different genres. Nintendo has worked well to make a diverse selection of games and they all seem to be selling well- at least in Japan.

It wouldn’t hurt for Sony to take note and add some wrinkles into the mass of over the shoulder sandbox/story based adventure games.

Let’s be brutally honest, 99% of PS4 owners have either forgotten about this, didn’t know in the first place, or don’t have the slightest idea of what it is.

It certainly backs up the argument you shouldn’t announce a game more than 6-8 months out.

@dani_i89

3 games isn’t much to convince a Nintendo fan like me to buy an XB1 though, is it? For the people that like XBox I’m happy they love it, but it definitely has a limited market- just like Nintendo isn’t going to be drawing in people that want shooters and Assassins Creed type games.

For the XB2 (or whatever the name is) to grow it’s user base it needs to draw in a new crowd of players. The XB1 only has 30 million consoles sold, and probably only 20 million people who bought those. Variety in games lineup will bring in more players.