MrGawain

This is about numbers of games, not $ cost sold. Indie games like Hollow Knight 2 don’t tend to have a physical option to buy, and are cheaper and more accessible to all players. I would be curious to see what the ratio is on just AAA games like Wolverine and GTA6 when they turn up.

I’m in the UK, and I’m disappointed in the lack of Japanese-centric games on the PS5.

Or just a lack of fun games on the PS5. I’m fed up of Western Dad Sandboxes.

The question is does is justify buying a PS5 Pro?

Or are other options ‘good enough’?

My iPad did something similar. It put up a message saying it needed ID to confirm I was over 18, then put up another message saying I had an iTunes account which proved I was old and I didn’t need to do anything after all.

Couldn’t care less about chatting online on the PS5.

The sad state of cinema means the bad films that make millions are more important than the good ones that are a commercial failure.

You have to feel sorry for the guy, because games and films and TV shows take so long to develop now. You can’t just say ‘We need an Uncharted or another Astrobot game for Christmas or next year’, what you have to sell was what the guy 5-7 years ago greenlit (and hopefully hasn’t been cancelled since then). The changes this guy makes won’t be felt until the next decade.

The market is moving so fast now, and it feels that the industry is stuck in its ways worrying just about big triple A games that are being sent out to die because they are no longer in fashion and too expensive in any way you can think. So many 3rd party games and studios are being cancelled so Sony can’t just expect to prop up the lack of 1st party.

GTA6 SHOULD do well, but there is no guarantee it will do as well as people expect, especially in this climate.

There are core PS4 owners that have moved on because they’ve had kids, grown out of gaming, can’t afford the PS5 or are just uninspired by this gens games. I sort of wish I hadn’t bothered myself.

The question is are there really enough new young gamers attracted to these games at this price for a console to replace them?

I will be curious to see if there is a mad rush to buy PS5s when GTA6 comes out. I’m wondering if some of that GTA5 base has moved on or is happy to stick with 5.

95m PS5s sold, 35m XBX’s sold- let’s say that’s 110m modern console owners some owning both consoles. Probably less.

GTA5 sold 225m copies. Is half the install base going to wait for it on PC, or is this a big warning sign for triple A developers?

A lot of companies have shifted their business plans to low effort and high profit. Concerts, sports, theme parks, casinos, high end manufacturers like furniture, tech and musical instruments, video games- they don't care about lowering their prices to appeal to the mass market, the want the few rich whales to spend above common sense. This is scooping out the middle ground of production.

Its baseball where only bases loaded home runs matter.

Currently there are so many games and hardware companies that are doubling down on the idea that all of their customers want more powerful, more expensive consoles and graphics cards, but I think it’s pretty obvious younger gamers couldn’t care less, and a large percentage of gamers that invested in the current generation are questioning if the extra power has been beneficial in the games we’ve actually got. I know I and my friends and family are all questioning if the PS5 has been worth it at the moment.

At the moment for any developer to be making anything means they are staving off closure. Good for them if true.

I thought they renamed it Snickers.

It’s hard enough to give live action Wolverine a haircut and costume that doesn’t look naff. Kratos is a ridiculous character with the complexion, facepaint and refusal to wear a jumper in Norway to try and make reality.

So much planned.

Only to be cancelled when Paramount or Netflix buy them.

Still not entirely sure the PS5 itself is must own to be honest.

In my opinion she’s just saying anything to try and make people happy at the moment. AI, exclusivity, keeping staff employed, prices, the future of Gamepass the next Xbox- it doesn’t really mean anything because like under Phil, if the people above tell her something has to happen, it will.

Perfect excuse for Microsoft to now get rid of the box and have it accessible from a data centre for thirty quid a month.

The biggest problem the PS5 has been it’s lack of games, especially exclusives. This doesn’t help the problem for the PS5, and doesn’t bode well for the PS6.

Seeing how happy the community is for the delay, I wonder how well the rumoured Next Xbox will do in 2027? You would think releasing on its own would give it a larger audience, but you would also guess the games will be held back by having to release on the PS5 as well. Plus it will stick out like a sore thumb if it releases at over a grand.

If they’re committed to still throwing money at this… what does that say about what they cancelled?

I bought a PS5 about 18 months in to experience all those ‘must play games’ unique to the PS5.

Still waiting.

FF7R and Astrobot have been pretty good, but I wouldn’t call them essential.

Ubisoft have always had the problem of their games feeling samey to their other titles. It’s sad for the people losing their jobs, but Watchdogs was just another Assassin’s Creed clone. Ubisoft made the biggest mistake that infinite exponential growth exists and people would keep buying no matter what they put out.

Finally a PS5 release I’m excited for!

…Which is an XBox game. Oh the irony.

Are you big and beardy?

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Then welcome aboard!

Anthem’s problem was being more of the same. It didn’t
matter if it was good or bad, it was another online shooter and people weren’t to give up the games they were committed to already.

I got so bored of Playstation and their lineup this year I stopped paying attention.

Here’s hoping they do better next year.

Sony are treading water at the moment. They’ve committed to this console, the triple A system that now takes 6+ years to produce this quality of game, and have very little in unknown games to spark the business. Wolverine and GTA6 are the things that could sell some more consoles, but beyond that if you don’t have a PS5, I doubt much will push you to buy one.

The real story is does Sony keep pushing power on the next console, or cap it and be price (and development) conscious on the PS6?

I haven’t played or had the desire to play any of them. It’s been a bad year for the PS5 for me personally.

Guessing BBC iplayer wins then?

Don’t hope for much and don’t lose any sleep. The trailers will be on YouTube when you wake up.

To be fair there was probably 30-40% of Final Fantasy 7 Rebirth content I never saw and I finished the game, and I’m guessing lots of other people didn’t. I think they could be a little more restrained with their budgets and customers wouldn’t notice.

Just imagine how disappointed people will be when they find he’s licensed U2’s music from the Joshua Tree to promote Doritos and Mountain Dew.

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Which was my point, if in a sarcastic tone. I find it amusing the narrative changes when it puts the company in a positive or negative light.

Remember, Playstation isn’t competing in the same market as Nintendo, they’re entirely different things.

Unless there is a story where Sony is winning then it is.

When you give everything and the kitchen sink in the original, where can you go? Spider-Man has all the powers and you can’t really give him a horse or car or a jet pack to advance the gameplay, and you can’t set it in the Sahara desert or Space. They painted themselves into a corner.

No excuse to not come up with more interesting ideas in the other games though!

The other day I saw a £85 bottle opener. I'm sure it's a very nice bottle opener, but it's far excessive than for my needs to open a bottle.

This is my mentality of a £750+ console or gaming PC. I don't need AI RAM to play 2D Mario and Tetris.

I like the fact I can watch Sky+ through it, but as a games console it leaves a lot to be desired. Not enough games I have enjoyed I’m afraid to say.

If you don’t like the sort of exclusive sand box narrative games Sony has- God of War, Horizon, Death Stranding, Spider-Man, Ghost Of Yotei, etc…

…How many reasons do you have to buy an expensive console? Playstation needs variety this generation has been lacking, and it’s deeply evident in the Japanese market.

Currently PlayStation isn’t a rounded business. Aside from Astrobot, Sackboy and (sort of) Ratchet and Clank there hasn’t been much fun, colourful family stuff to appeal to that audience which is a big part of Japanese gaming. I don’t think subsidising the console makes a damn bit of difference if you don’t have the games that this audience wants- just look at XBox in Japan.

They aren’t going to fix this overnight without investing in some studios to make these sort of games- and I question if they will do that?

It hits home now that the sort of games I play aren’t really the stuff the game awards wants to promote, and the stuff they promote rarely interests me at all.

Aside from Nintendo there is a definite homogenisation of video games heading towards PC gaming. The home console will just be using the TV as a window into these platforms. We’re likely to see $1000 consoles next Gen, and gaming is going to become a little more niche. I’m guessing people will choose a single console based on where their friends play and where their libraries predominantly are.

It was aimed at trying to get Japanese gamers and Nintendo owners to get interested in the PS5.

I’m interested in some of these titles, but would probably chose to get them on Switch 2 for the portability factor.

Nice to hear any company listening to its customers, let alone Sony.

Seeing the calls for cheaper, more sustainable titles with quicker turnarounds was already being discussed sometime in 2020, it wouldn’t have made sense to expect us to invest in a more expensive console with specs that inflated their problems even more.

I can’t help reading that as ‘people who own the PlayStation Portal are more likely to play on the PlayStation Portal than people who don’t own a PlayStation Portal.’

I’m now closer to 50 than 40, and although I still game there is definitely more competition for my time.

When I look at my 20 something nephew, he wants games but is not willing to pay for them- especially PlayStation, because beyond Astrobot nothing has interested him. He spends money on holidays, concerts, the cinema, and theme parks because he gets to do that with his friends. I see him come online with his Switch and has over 1000 hours watching YouTube on it. He still plays a bit of FNAF and Minecraft, but not much else.

I definitely think Playstation is ignorant to younger gamers at the moment, making expensive, long winded story games that kids aren’t willing to invest their time and money in.

A very niche event in a time where people have to worry about paying for the essentials. I get the feeling 2026 you’ll see bigger acts and live events have to cancel as prices scare customers off.

If all the Microsoft owned games are on PlayStation, but the Sony games aren't going to be ported to the Xbox, then there is no valid reason to own an XBox beyond brand loyalty.

But then it's more than likely all going to move to PC next generation except Nintendo.

I’ve yet to see an attach rate for games for the PS5. I’d like to know that.

I think all three companies have lost a lot of good will with their fans recently:

• Nintendo with prices, game key cards and some questions about the quality of some of the Switch 2 launch games.
• Xbox with uncertainty of how they are selling their product (subscription/console/3rd party) and laying off thousands of workers.
• Sony for pushing their hardware and prices when there is fewer interesting games this generation.

None of these companies can expect to grow or even keep all of their customers if they don’t address these problems.

The idea of a film of a girl fighting robot dinosaurs is a perfect summer blockbuster, but things will have to change from the game. Aloy is more robotic than the metal T-Rex she fights, and that’s why she’s disliked by some fans. If we could just have some humour, or vulnerability, or anger from the character in the game, you could relate to her.

Not just a slight on Sony, but modern gaming is less concerned on fun these days. It’s more concerned with making films that you wander through. Couple that with the cost, lack of games and push towards online really puts me off investing hundreds into a new PlayStation.

Hoping Nintendo has some fun Switch 2 games next year, because even they are falling foul to these criticisms.