MrGawain

If the person coming up with the zany scenarios for these ads was making PlayStation games it would be great, but in reality all there is on Playstation is just a long list of sandbox games where the parent/child dynamic is explored.

Before physical was ended I just got bored with Playstation.

Is it just me or does Wolverine have the same movement animations as Spider-Man?

All these big companies have a business plan if exploiting the richest, most fanatical customer. Gaming, Gambling, Theme Parks, Concerts- it’s all about leaning into making the Whales pay.

I won’t be buying a PS6, so it won’t be me.

Seeing how they haven’t stopped selling games on disks yet, how could it affect games sales? If you have a PS5, I don’t see any reason not to use your purchase as normal.

The real story will be when the PS6 comes out at a high price with less consumer rights and after a very disappointing current generation. Are as many people really going to be happy to just throw money at that thing, at least on day one?

Yeah. Show them what it’s like with people not turning their PS5’s on for a week.

Meanwhile I went 3 months not turning it on because there weren’t any games I wanted to play on it.

If getting rid of physical games is what’s best for their business, fair enough.

I’m choosing not to invest in the PlayStation ecosystem any more because they don’t offer any security for my purchases, and they were lacking in interesting exclusives this Gen. That’s best for me.

The reason I bought a PS4 and a PS5 was to play the Japanese games I couldn't play on the Switch.

Now there really isn't much on Playstation that isn't on Nintendo. All this bad press us just making certain customers realise they don't need to be in the Playstation ecosystem anymore.

Sony has assumed that customers have no other choice to accept their business practises, and they're wrong.

It certainly looks a very exciting film.

Oh it’s a game? Who would know.

I’ve bought the PS5 to play games, and despite my disappointment with this Gen and Sony’s new business plan I’m not going to sell the thing. I’m planning on buying Fable when it comes out, and I’ll see if anything else catches my eye, but I’m not going to buy a PS6 because it’s going to be so expensive for such uncertainty of if they’re going to deliver games I want to play and if there is any guarantee on not cancelling my ability to play those games and offer value.

I wouldn’t tell anyone else how to spend their money, just a personal decision for me.

The reality is the US gaming market is almost all digital sales and is so big it skews the numbers for the rest of the world. We are like Japan and all the other countries where we have to just follow how America has it.

As the saying goes: 'The USA catches a cold and the rest of the world sneezes'.

@Random_play05

I’ve been playing mainly first party stuff that’s on the card, but even the key cards I can lend to my nephew or perhaps even sell.
I also have a vast library of S1 games to replay through.

Plus it isn’t just about physical- it’s more the fact that I’ve only really enjoyed FF7R and Astro Bot on the PS5. Two games isn’t enough to justify buying a PS6.

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I couldn’t care less about Playstion or PC gaming from now on. I’m going to stick with Nintendo. All I really want from gaming is the ability to stick a game in a console and immediately play for an hour or so to ignore the rest of the world for a bit. Playstation now comes with so much baggage which takes me out of my escapism. Plus this generation of the PS5 didn’t have many fun games for me.

@Mr-Cage If it was just physical media perhaps not, but I think the possible $1000 price and the fact a lot of people think the PS5 has not been supported enough yet has given some fans (me included) that Sony are just rushing into next generation and making fans pay again earlier and higher than expected, with less securities that they can keep their games. This is heightened with a tough economy.

I don’t think some younger fans understand that we grew up with certain things- Woolworths, Ceefax, Pay Phones, Chocolate that doesn’t taste of sick, physical media, and when they went away it was like the ground you rely on crumbling at your feet.

This may sound trivial in a modern world, but trust me at some point in the future your world will shatter when the things you have come to know will be destroyed. It could be Mobile Phones, Deliveroo, YouTube, or Anime Cartoons- one day they will be financially unsupportable and they will be gone.

And you will be against the new tech of inserting a microchip into your forehead and kids telling you to ‘get with the times Granddad’.

The PS5 hasn’t been worth it- an expensive machine with three games I’ve enjoyed. Add all the new caveats and I’m happier to read a book in the garden instead.

Sony (and Microsoft who have a worse image) have set out the way they plan to deal with the economy with mass firings, multiple price rises, and changes in customer rights. They seem unable to change this now, desperate to release their new consoles that it seems the entire fandom is apathetic about. They haven’t made this generation of consoles worthwhile to justify abandoning them and expecting even money for a new console.

Frankly I don’t think anything can help either company. They are blindly assuming their brands are more important than the products and business practises they are flogging, saying one thing about getting back to what the customer wants but doing another.

I think Playstation and XBox need a cold shower of reality and need to experience a loss in players and money to realise this isn’t good enough. We get times are tough, but at a certain point no shiny game or improved UI is going to improve trust. I know I’m not willing to gamble thousands of pounds any more that the next generation of consoles will be worth my time.

Can any business really afford to lose 15% of its sales and customers?

Not sure if Sony is Brave or Stupid.

I wonder with less people owing a PS5/XBX than an PS4/XB1, the lack of a physical version to double dip on, a lack of younger players growing up with consoles, and just a general shortage of currency to buy things that keep you alive if GTA6 will hit GTA5 numbers? Probably cash wise because of the price increase, but I can’t see how they sell the numbers they did last time.

@Vertere And why do I need a £1000 PS6 to play these indie games? The concept of another Playstation 50% more powerful but somewhere double the last price I paid is irrelevant to me when it doesn’t have exclusive games that interest me.

Again, I get God of War and Horizon players may want a more realistic, shinier 3D playground. But I’m playing 2D platformers, cartoon RPGs and Tetris games. I don’t need a snazzier console to do that.

@Mincey0 But my point was Sony have abandoned a lot of their Japanese produced, more weird and fun games. For me it doesn’t matter how fast a game loads if I don’t want to play it.

I get for the people who love this generation’s games the PS5 was great, but they’ve abandoned a big chunk of their audience who like to play other games, and I don’t see them changing this for the PS6.

Frankly for me the PS5 wasn’t worth it for me with its limited variety of games that I would like. To put down a £800-£1000 bet that they’ll have games I’ll be interested in next generation would be stupid, especially when you think the PS5 and Switch 2 will probably be getting versions of those games as well. I don’t need to be cutting edge any more, I’m old.

The whole point of a console is to be an accessible way to game. This future is not.

It’s not about making money from 1st party games on other platforms, it’s about keeping us on PlayStation with 1st party to make money on 3rd parties.

‘We want games made faster!’

‘We want games made cheaper!’

‘We want to release a new more powerful console soon for more graphically intensive games!’

Just an idea, A and B don’t sit well with C.

I wouldn’t say any of them had a coherent showcase that had a curated collection that showed variety- they were just a collection of adverts for stuff coming in the future.

It’s a cliche, but Nintendo are the masters of the direct because they are usually really good at showing variety. Playstation suffered from having a lot of games that felt like the same game with different skins on it,

It’s not 3rd party- it’s Japanese 3rd party. Street Fighter, Final Fantasy, Resident Evil, Stellar Blade. Sony isn’t catering for a Japanese market, so Japan developers aren’t aligning themselves with Sony.

I’ll be curious to see if some of these Japanese companies will be next Nintendo Direct.

I wonder if GTA6 will actually drive console sales, or console prices will hinder possible GTA6 sales until it comes to PC?

Aren’t there enough Wolverine statues in the world already?

I'm indifferent to the game- it's more God Of War 2018 gameplay with weirder characters. I'm sure the Sony faithful will buy it.

As for Jaffe, you can understand. If you were the songwriter, singer, and lead guitar player for what you considered the ultimate metal band and you were replaced with a piano player who wrote songs about parent and child emotional issues I'm sure you would be bitter about your creation.

It suffered from exactly what PlayStation 5 has been suffering its entire life- tonally it was 95% bland zombie robot shooty/stabby blood and guts. And I’m pretty sure most of it was more cutscenes than actual gameplay. This appeals to a certain player, but it ignores so many other potential customers.

The only games that looked different were the Marvel beat em up, Rayman, and stunt driver game- and they weren’t exactly thrilling.

…Aaaand this will be hilarious when GTA6 is delayed until February.

At a certain point you realise a gaming direct is just an advert, and you can learn the stuff you want to the day after and see clips of anything cool. Frankly PlayStation has continuously disappointed me this generation, and the lowlights are greater than the highlights.

Happy for those that are committed, but it’s become an afterthought for me as they change the audience they’re chasing.

Thank goodness, there are barely any open world PlayStation games.

Now if only Xbox could get some more First Person Shooters.

I’m yet to be convinced if I’m willing to invest over a thousand pounds in the next Gen console. Current gaming has been depressing enough as it is, and it looks like things are getting worse.

This is about numbers of games, not $ cost sold. Indie games like Hollow Knight 2 don’t tend to have a physical option to buy, and are cheaper and more accessible to all players. I would be curious to see what the ratio is on just AAA games like Wolverine and GTA6 when they turn up.

I’m in the UK, and I’m disappointed in the lack of Japanese-centric games on the PS5.

Or just a lack of fun games on the PS5. I’m fed up of Western Dad Sandboxes.

The question is does is justify buying a PS5 Pro?

Or are other options ‘good enough’?

My iPad did something similar. It put up a message saying it needed ID to confirm I was over 18, then put up another message saying I had an iTunes account which proved I was old and I didn’t need to do anything after all.

Couldn’t care less about chatting online on the PS5.

The sad state of cinema means the bad films that make millions are more important than the good ones that are a commercial failure.

You have to feel sorry for the guy, because games and films and TV shows take so long to develop now. You can’t just say ‘We need an Uncharted or another Astrobot game for Christmas or next year’, what you have to sell was what the guy 5-7 years ago greenlit (and hopefully hasn’t been cancelled since then). The changes this guy makes won’t be felt until the next decade.

The market is moving so fast now, and it feels that the industry is stuck in its ways worrying just about big triple A games that are being sent out to die because they are no longer in fashion and too expensive in any way you can think. So many 3rd party games and studios are being cancelled so Sony can’t just expect to prop up the lack of 1st party.

GTA6 SHOULD do well, but there is no guarantee it will do as well as people expect, especially in this climate.

There are core PS4 owners that have moved on because they’ve had kids, grown out of gaming, can’t afford the PS5 or are just uninspired by this gens games. I sort of wish I hadn’t bothered myself.

The question is are there really enough new young gamers attracted to these games at this price for a console to replace them?

I will be curious to see if there is a mad rush to buy PS5s when GTA6 comes out. I’m wondering if some of that GTA5 base has moved on or is happy to stick with 5.

95m PS5s sold, 35m XBX’s sold- let’s say that’s 110m modern console owners some owning both consoles. Probably less.

GTA5 sold 225m copies. Is half the install base going to wait for it on PC, or is this a big warning sign for triple A developers?

A lot of companies have shifted their business plans to low effort and high profit. Concerts, sports, theme parks, casinos, high end manufacturers like furniture, tech and musical instruments, video games- they don't care about lowering their prices to appeal to the mass market, the want the few rich whales to spend above common sense. This is scooping out the middle ground of production.

Its baseball where only bases loaded home runs matter.

Currently there are so many games and hardware companies that are doubling down on the idea that all of their customers want more powerful, more expensive consoles and graphics cards, but I think it’s pretty obvious younger gamers couldn’t care less, and a large percentage of gamers that invested in the current generation are questioning if the extra power has been beneficial in the games we’ve actually got. I know I and my friends and family are all questioning if the PS5 has been worth it at the moment.

At the moment for any developer to be making anything means they are staving off closure. Good for them if true.

I thought they renamed it Snickers.

It’s hard enough to give live action Wolverine a haircut and costume that doesn’t look naff. Kratos is a ridiculous character with the complexion, facepaint and refusal to wear a jumper in Norway to try and make reality.

So much planned.

Only to be cancelled when Paramount or Netflix buy them.

Still not entirely sure the PS5 itself is must own to be honest.

In my opinion she’s just saying anything to try and make people happy at the moment. AI, exclusivity, keeping staff employed, prices, the future of Gamepass the next Xbox- it doesn’t really mean anything because like under Phil, if the people above tell her something has to happen, it will.

Perfect excuse for Microsoft to now get rid of the box and have it accessible from a data centre for thirty quid a month.