Poll: Did PS5 or Xbox Series X Have the Better Next-Gen Showcase?

Easily Playstation in terms of reveals. The literal stream quality from Microsoft was far superior to Sony.

The PS5 event was better, but that's not to say that Xbox's showing was bad. It was completely fine.

Ps5 is way better, not to mention the games are really exclusive.

Edit: Just saw the trailers, halo graphics are not good for a next-gen titles, and fable trailer is not even an in-engine trailer, it's just a CG trailer. What years is it 🙄

Very easily PlayStation. The Xbox showcase was pretty bad.

I think it was a tie, Bloober Team’s game, Tetris, Hellblade 2, Fable were all great reveals. The real winner though is STALKER. The original is one of the greatest games ever made so an exclusive sequel, that’s absolutely insane.

Wow what a disaster it was ! I really thought they would have real arguments but Sony doesn't need to do anything, Microsoft is digging its own grave. Halo looks like a 360 game in 4K, the rest had no gameplay. RIP

PS : Gamepass is still great though. I hope Sony does this kind of thing.

Xbox had picked up some momentum I feel with their posturing ahead of the event, but then completely blew it again. They barely showed any gameplay at all and that is what people were saying was wrong last time!

Learn from your mistakes people!!

Edit: and it all felt very current gen.

PS by a wide margin for me.

Well I just watched the Xbox event and it was crap! Halo gameplay had pop ins and was stuttering, didn’t look that good either. Then it was literally an hour long film with no gameplay, just lots of endless talk of 4K 60FPS with ray tracing and no actual proof to back it up. Sony’s presentation was much better and had a ton of gameplay, plus the Xbox event had a LOT of ‘launch exclusive’ games, which I took to mean timed exclusives. For me none of the games matched Ratchet And Clank or GT7. State Of Decay 3 looked great and all we had was a 30 second CGI film for it!
The quality for the games just wasn’t there, lots of gameplay instead of endless CGI trailers would have helped a LOT IMO.
Sony so far is smashing it with PS5....

Ye ngl, I was rather underwhelmed. I think the PS5 was far better and more exciting, and I enjoyed its reveals of R&C, Horizon 2, Returnal and Project Another-Sqaure-Enix-Game-That-Is-Lightyears-Away. That said, some games like Avowed and Medium have me intrigued.

Pretty sure I won’t be buying an Xbox, still not convinced if or when I’d by a PS5 but am still open to the idea. Maybe give it a year(ish).

Xbox: S.t.a.l.k.e.r

Playstation: Horizon 2, Spiderman, Resident evil, Demons souls and Ratchet and clank
These are my personal favorites so Sony by a longshot

This was all predictable announcements, underwhelming reveals and lackluster gameplay showcases.
As a run of the mill show, it was fine, but as Microsoft's big mic-drop moment, this was embarrassing.

Honestly outside of Fable, the medium (multiplat) and the new remedy game (also multiplat) there was nothing there for me.

While the revival of fable is great and the trailer made me chuckle there wasnt enough to justify me getting a series x.

Also interesting that the other day people were bashing spider man mm for having a performance mode at 60fps while also saying xbox was going to run games at 120fps easily. And then Microsoft said halo was 60fps.

This really solidified to me that yes the xbox has more teraflops but in actual terms of power it doesnt separate the two consoles.

PS5 had a better balance between cinematic and gameplay, even the cinematics were for sequels of recent games or remake (Demon Souls) so still gave you a good idea of what to expect of the game. Whilst the new games showed gameplay so you know what to expect of those.

For Xbox if you've never played Fable what would you think after seeing that? Everwild I don't have a clue what you do in the game, even Forza somehow failed to impress but I know Laguna Seca is in the game at least. Too much spent talking about Destiny 2, Tetris and Ori being 120fps which was just as bad as opening with GTAV (seriously who cares?) Halo demo was good, The Medium was presented well as was Grounded and Obsidians sense of humour shone through on that one.

Overall they both had great games but ive got a better idea of how Sony's will play and they seem much further along in development, so for those reasons I'd say the PS5 event was better

@S1ayeR74 Is it just me or did Microsoft say 120 frames per second last year and now its just 60 60 60

Xbox was pretty poor tbh, nothing that made me think "wow" and the graphics for halo weren't that impressive, I've seen current gen games have better graphics

@Cornaboyzzz 😴🤔🙈😒.word up son

It was good in that it feels like Microsoft are back in the console business with some actual games.

I mean has it just been brushed under the carpet this gen that they’ve had pretty much feck all?

And they have now ditched the year Xbox Live Gold subscription, and they have not made it free, so you either have to pay monthly costing more, or every three months. Basically they are doing all they can to make you buy Game Pass, I see that now, and on Game Pass you don’t own a single one of those games, you are renting them!

@Royalblues I'm just curious, is The medium an exclusive because I liked it too

The xbox show was good, and they are building a decent first party lineup, but there isn't anything there that really makes me want to buy a Series X. My biggest fear was that they would have an exclusive deal with a big third party game but that wasn't the case.

@DualshockInfinit haha yeah, you know what I think? I think Sony will have better graphics and maybe stick to 30FPS with ray tracing, because the graphics are not very impressive in either console at 4K 60FPS with ray tracing, looking at Halo, and THAT’S why we didn’t see any gameplay, because they have been shouting the line they are the most powerful console blah blah blah.. they don’t want to show the games aren’t that impressive looking. IMO.

I think PlayStation slightly edges out Xbox this time, only because PlayStation showed gameplay. Xbox showed a lot of indie games and that isn’t bad, but I don’t think it’s the next-gen stuff that gamers were hoping to see. That aside I don’t see the point in this poll. This is a PlayStation site so the results are going to be unbelievably skewed.

State of decay 2 flopped, i dont understand why they come up with 3. Seasonal halo, forza. Never a fan of halo anyway.

They were both pretty disappointing.

And now the PS5 is £600 🤷‍♂️

@playstation1995 Everytime they have a chance to turn the tables, they blow it again. It's gonna be monopoly for Sony again. Word up son

It was Ok, not bad, but not really better than the PS5 Reveal.
I have a hard time trying to remember anything else remarkable beside Halo.

Also, WTF is a "Console Launch Exclusive"?

Sony easily. Almost everything at the Xbox event was CG trailers and likely years off. Halo looks outdated. Like those character models outside of Chief looked horrible. A bunch of "Console Launch Exclusives" that will come to PS5 later on too.

I like some of their games like Fable, Avowed, Everwild, etc but they had no gameplay for any of them. We won't be playing them until 2022 or later. Meanwhile we'll be playing Horizon 2, Ratchet, Demon's Souls, and more all within the next year most likely.

PS5 for me. Xbox was good but not great. I don't like the Halo games so it did nothing for me but was still nice to see MS showing some gameplay. They shown some nice games I'd like to see more of like Fable for example, but nothing there to get me excited for just yet. Forza looked amazing but I'm not into them motorsport games.

Sony just have games that leave me dying to play after they are shown.

@Makina Ugh it means timed exclusive. I really don't know how people don't understand this by now. Microsoft has used that term for years now. Just go back and look at all the games that had "Console Launch Exclusive" for them in the past and how they came to PS4 later on.

I thought that Sony’s was better. It was only Halo that interested me & that will be a day one for me. But as a next gen reveal, looked flat. To me, it didn’t look like it was running on a next gen console. So I suppose as this game is a cross gen title, it is that reason for why the game doesn’t look as next gen as it should. Would have preferred if it was just made as a series x game only. The other games that Xbox had, didn’t do anything for me to be honest with you.

@PSfan4Life22 Exact same thoughts.

Xbox just lost the entire next generation in one hour today. It's laughable how much worse this show was — and Sony's not done showing stuff yet, either.

Forza looked great and so did tetris but we're getting that anyway. Some of the games looked like their insistency on supporting the weaker machines really hampered the X. There were so many enhanced for x logos it was hard to see what were actually series X games. Halo even had pop in on the misty mountain smoke. Not really impressed to be completely biased free.

I really liked the way Xbox showed taking the console apart that was amazing and the controls pad.
Sony went to much more detail and more games but it would have been cool a teardown or proper look at the console all over and controls pad.
PS5 won for me but Xbox did quite well and more game focused.

@1_W1NG3D_4NG3L Yes, The Medium looks like a game I would want to play. Most of the others shown? Meh, I can cope.

Ori does look incredibly beautiful though, if that was on a PS4/5 then I'd play the hell out of it!

I think the PS5 reveal was better but if they'd only shown Horizon footage that would've been enough for the win for me.

😜

The conference was fine. I believe they are trying to get most people to purchase the Xbox because of Game Pass. I have it on PC and it is actually a great service. The games didn't excite me that much, but I can always try them out on PC with Game Pass.

PlayStation for sure! I think they even have a lot they didn't show yet the last time because of TLOU2 and GOT were releasing.
There were some nices games shown like Everwild and Fable (loved 2 and 3 back when). Also Crossfire X by Remedy was a decent surprise.
But once again their usual suspects Halo (underwhelming) and Forza.

Nothing I got excited about right now. Maybe down the line I will get a XBOX Series S but PS5 will be the main console!

Sony for me. I was very disapointed with Microsoft - i had expected fireworks.

Halo looked very current gen, and many of the games were timed exclusives or already available elsewhere.

Tetris?? Great game, but i've been playing for a couple of years already. The upgrade i can wait on.

Best title i saw on display was the new one from Rare. That looked a little special.

Nothing else has really stuck with me. Psychonaughts im excited for on PS4 (still annoyed by the purchase of double fine) and the ninja theory interview annoyed me talking about how grateful they were to the 3.5 million who played hellblade when a big chunk will be ps4 players.

Avowed couuld be good but impossible to tell from a cg trailer. Same goes for fable.

I admittedly have a bit of a bias because I just generally prefer PlayStation IPs to Microsoft's, and a lot of the "exclusivity" of the games showcased today is nullified by the fact that they're also simultaneously launching on PC, but the PS5 announcements were considerably better and the presentation was generally more engaging from Sony, even if there was stuff like Everwild, Fable IV and Hellblade II that got me extremely hyped. I'm all for showcasing a more diverse line up of games that don't primarily emphasize heavy hitters, but I feel like Sony was just more consistent on that front.

Other than Forza and Hellblade nothing peaked my interest and after all the crap Phil has been speaking ill be thinking hard if its even worth getting the new xbox on launch.

I prefer PS over Xbox so this is no contest. But...

Xbox has been sitting on Fable too long. I know Lions Head went under but that was a stellar franchise. The fact it's taken 10 years to get anywhere is a shame. It may be the reason I buy another Xbox console after skipping over the current one. We'll see.

Aside from Psychonauts 2, Fable 4, and Halo Infinite, games on Xbox's showcase didn't stand out to me a whole lot. I'd say Sony won in terms of games. The stream quality was better, but that means squat in the bigger scheme of things.

Given the stuttering and pop-in from Halo Infinite Vs how smooth Ratchet and Clank ran with none of that during its reveal and with far more happening on screen, this is proof that everything Sony said about the speed of their SSD is true.

There's a clear winner in the PS5 for me. I still see zero reasons to go back to Xbox.

Man that was kinda a bummer. Halo just looked like more Halo (which is good with MC and Split Screen), Fable tease was BS. The most hype for me was Outer Worlds and it comes to Playstation lol. Avowed is gonna be good though. I still dont know what to make of EverWild

I mean the more Microsoft tries, the more PC games I get - so happy for that.

Also, always Happy for a new Forza.

But if trying to sell me more hardware, SONY by a mile. It really is what every reveal will be judges against from now on. This was not close.

Objectively they were about the same, though I think PS5 has a very slight edge.

Ps5,was more hype,but niether showcased games i liked or i am hyped for. I did not see any fighting game trailers or anouncments(so i am to assume that is on the devs,but alas guilty gear is a thing),and sony suprisingly ,did not show any jrpg's or any japanese studio exclusives e.g studio japan,and honestly niether showed any gameplay that hyped me(except obvousily Rachet and Clank),and its not like there was a plethora of gameplay.
I am just not as hyped of next gen, as i was a month or two back.

Ps5 event:7/10(the console reveal hype,made it more worth it.)

Xbox event:5/10(Hardly any plot info and very limited gameplay of Halo infinte,there most interesting game for me was the cell shaded game,but alas no gameplay,fabal no gameplay,that call of duty like game from Remedy,no gameplay.)

@1_W1NG3D_4NG3L The Medium isn't coming to PS5 or PS4.

1/2 these games will be cancelled, and the ones that do release will be it for Xbox fans. Microsoft is known to have a solid first round of games to get you to buy the systems, then go dark on first party stuff. Not falling for it again.

I'm trying to find what got announced at the Msft show elsewhere but all i am reading is Halo footage and cgi Fable at the moment. If those two games are what they have to show in terms of the focal point of output they're in big trouble for the first year in terms of having a "word of mouth" factor. It's quite concerning that you have a new system coming and you're using the argument that other systems shouldn't be making their games exclusive to just the new system. Watching the Halo footage it seems to play on nostalgia from the first Halo and that scene with the bad guy was some pretty weak graphics. I'm concerned with Msft because i genuinely believe competition is what drives Sony to offer us more.

@Makina clever way of saying timed exclusive I think.

That gamepass though.
I am still very much on the fence bout that.
I like to own my games and what if the costs steadily go up?
Still, acces to all games... That is enticing.
Shame it's on Xbox wich I'll never buy and I don't have or ever plan on buying a nice pc.

I saw a lot of games I'm excited to play on my PC, though it's probably about time I upgrade my GTX 980Ti. You've been an admirable card, little one, but you're finally showing your age.

@torne I believe the medium and crossfire x and both exclusive to Microsoft.

@Nyne11Tyme. Halo looks like a 2015 game.it didnt looks like. A next gen game.word up son

@playstation1995 2015 games on console,do not run at 60fps at 4k.
Just saying.

Is it just me or this new generation of Xbox X and PS5 doesn't look graphically much better? Besides, most new games are quite average...

Playstation has more appealing games for me so I'm sticking with the PS5.

I've never owned an Xbox. After this showcase, while the games look interesting, I probably still won't own one unless they did an all digital edition. I'd just get that and an Gamepass and I'd never have to buy a game for the system.

@Royalblues
Was just kidding haha

@Royalblues You’ll be fine for a good few years. My laptop’s got a GTX 1660 and still runs the newest games on Ultra. I expect Cyberpunk to be the game that pushes it over the edge.

@markkoo I am ,recently feeling the same way to,the fact that critical info on the consoles themselve,are coming in sluggisly,does not help my mood.

I mean,killzone shadowfall on ps4,looked incredible,and sold me on next gen.Nothing on ps5 has done that for me(besides Rachet and Clank),i mean,even last of us part 2(visualy) on ps4 looks more impressive than,horizan and spiderman mile morales(oh we have not actually seen horizon and spiderman in full gameplay yet, you say,i wonder whose fault that is.)

The only game that looked amazing was, The Gunk. My kind of game.

@DualshockInfinit stalker is also on ps5

I really liked both, but Ratchet and Clank and Spider-Man really sold it to me, so PlayStation by a hair. And Psychonauts 2 and Balan Wonderworld is coming to PS4 and Ps5 anyways.

I'd say my concerns regarding Xbox 1st party games as well as Game Pass are well founded after watching that.

Xbox CANNOT compete with Sony's 1st party in both budget and development time, and Game Pass is the reason why. How many of their game reveals look like low-budget and AA titles?

This is because they NEED to churn out exclusives on the reg to justify Game Pass - still, there will be some decent games there, but multiple must-have AAA titles a year? No chance. And Gears, Halo and Forza need a f**king rest at this point.

As a side note, Xbox did announce free upgrades for Gears 5 and Forza. This tactic is how Sony SMASHES the first year of PS5, by releasing free upgrades to exclusives like Bloodborne, Horizon, Spiderman, Ghost etc. Show them running on the PS5 at the next event at 4k/60 and take my money please.

I admit I have a lot of bias for PlayStation and games I have grown to love from PS1. But I can say I may dabble with XBox this next gen maybe with GamePass on my PC. That's only if I can find the time PlayStation game launches keep me building a backlog.

I would have been impressed if I hadn’t seen the PlayStation showcase. Sadly, in comparison this was rather lacklustre. I did like the look of The Medium and the one that was reminiscent of Life Is Strange (can’t remember the name). The important thing is Psychonauts 2 is not an Xbox exclusive 🤗

@nessisonett
I always loved the idea of the Stalker games, but I could never get into them after multiple attempts. Enjoy the Metro games though, I think there is some lineage there.

@1_W1NG3D_4NG3L Every single game shown was a multiplat. They are all on at least 1 Xbox console + PC. Some on both xbox consoles + PC

All I will say is that my day one release preorder confirmed PS5. Now give the date and price and I will show you the money.

@1_W1NG3D_4NG3L There were no multiplat games there. All the games shown were either first-party, console exclusives or timed console exclusives

@Royalblues I need mine for Uni so the portability was more important than it being a bit more powerful!

I mean, of course PS5 will dominate the poll, such is the audience of Push Square. But I honestly believe today's Microsoft was not only lackluster in comparison to PlayStation's, but underwhelming as a whole

@Menchi That's not what a multiplat is. That's a console exclusive. If those games were multiplats they would also have had PS or Nintendo versions confirmed alongside Xbox. It being on one other platform alongside Xbox does not mean it's a multiplat game. It's just like how Street Fighter V is still a console exclusive to PS4 but still has a PC version

The big Halo was so well this generation and flat for me, I expected so much more.
I will get my FPS kicks from Far Cry 6 on PS5 thank you.
And they should have shown Fable off a lot more, like Sony did HZD2 at the end.

Honestly for me the best game shown was Balan Wonderland and it was shown at the pre show, always loved nights into dreams on sega saturn and could tell it was from the same creator, I thought it was exclusive to xbox but Just read it is coming to ps4 as well 😁

@1_W1NG3D_4NG3L Yep, we've covered them on the home page.

@wiiware
Halo was so this generation, and they have had 5 years and a new game engine to produce that. That’s what you get when you need to make a game work on Xbox one as well as your new series x next generation console. Dam fools, I am genuinely disappointed as I wanted Halo to look outstanding and set the benchmark.

The only thing I was worried about was a WB games purchase, that didn't happen (it seems) so I'm good. Still it was a decent showing from them.

even the idea of asking such a question is too polite. clearly nothing has changed over at microsoft as they did not give any reason to upgrade to series x. business as usual and it is clear phil was saving face the entire time he was hyping up his event.

@Kirbyboy92 Yeah, no kiddin'.
I think Microsoft was slightly better, but neither really reached the heights I hoped.

@get2sammyb yeah they did

Yeah.....there was no Elden Ring at the Michael soft press conference so it's gotta be a 0/10 from me

Do better Phil Spencer, more Elden Ring next time and Less not Elden Ring

I didn't see it but I seen the list of games that were mentioned on pure Xbox and I'm not impressed at all. You couldn't make up a more drab list of games if you tried. Playstation all the way. Forza looks like the shallow imitation of Gran turismo that it is.

The biggest missteps of the #XboxGamesShowcase
1. A lot of CGI trailers with barely any gameplay.
2. Doesn't really emphasize the so called "power" of the Series X.
3. Halo: Infinite looks bad not just graphically but also in animation (grappling hook). Flagship franchise???

@TheFrenchiestFry Canned console defender response. Multiple platforms, multiplats.

I feel Sony did much better. Xbox wasn't a bad showing at all, but the games Sony showed were just better.

@rachetmarvel. Playa im talking about the graphics.how the the game looks .did i say anything about 4k or 60fps.the graphics didn't look that good for the most powerful console.word up son

I was laughing hysterically throughout all Xbox show.
Tetris exclusivity was almost an absurd.

Can anyone explain me, how do they plan to sell it?

I just ignored the Microsoft event today And I have just been looking now around the internet to see what Microsoft showed and it all(the so called Xbox Exclusive stuff) sounds as BORING as ever Microsoft just doesn't have the 'AAA' stuff SONY pump-out every year.

Looks that "open world" plague is affecting more and more games... pitty.

PS5

I vote for PS5, as Ratchet and Clank, Horizon 2 and Sackboy had me hooked...plus, Sony will continue having the games I love, where Microsoft dumps them after a while (Blinx, Voodoo Vince, Viva Piñata, Conker, Whacked, Fusion Frenzy and more). I have the original 3 x-boxes (including the One) for some of their exclusives...yup, some were pretty decent, but I'm not into Gears or Halo. Excited for the next Fable, but who knows if it'll be a reality...there was to be a fable title for XBONE, and that got canned. I like the XBONE and play it, but the PS4 gets played more, and my PS3 was played more than the 360, so I'm more excited for the PS5...however, I'll end up having Microsoft's eventually, as long as exclusives continue for it. Up to now, what's the point if the games are coming to Next and XBONE at the same time for a while?

Trying to be as least biased as possible considering this is a PlayStation site. But I’d say hands down Sony had the far better first showing. The pacing, games, and production all went Sony’s way in my opinion. The Halo demo was honestly awful and looks exactly like what it has been in the past. In my opinion it was just really boring and thought it was just a terrible way to set the pace of the show. However I thought Fable was the perfect thing for them to close on and expected they would. But I know people have been waiting forever for a new one and thought the 20 second trailer could have and should’ve been more. The Medium, Ori, S.T.A.L.K.E.R, and Warhammer were the only things I found even remotely interesting. But overall nothing that made me say I need to invest in an Xbox.

Sony's was stronger, although i don't think either of them were amazing, neither have made my decision to hold off on going next gen for at least a year too difficult.

Best thing from MS's show for me is seeing that Halo has returned to its roots, Halo 5 was a disaster, i'm so glad to see classic Halo gameplay return with none of that iron-sight nonsense they added to 5. That and Psychonauts 2 were the highlights.

Only thing that got me excited was Fable and it was a barbones cinematic, which leads me to believe 2022 at the earliest. PS5 by a long shot

I must say one thing. You are as strong as your weakest engine.... and none of next-gen reveals convinced me, that gaming will try to push some boundaries in this way. If i look at Heavy Rain or Detroit, it is possible to push it, but no one cares. Ray tracing is really not some win. Xbox series X games looks like PS4 games and PS5 games still looks like PS4 games. So for next Playstation is the biggest (and only) advantage that I/O speed. Other aspects are at tie.

And cherry on a pie, I recognized only one game only Xbox series X. All other "console exclusive" was Xbox series X / Windows PC. 😂😂😂

@Luna-Harmony xbox did a very close look at the console weeks and weeks ago(digital foundry) and I'm pretty sure they have a deep dive on series x in august

The Microsoft showcase made me glad I own a gaming pc.

@Menchi Console defender? Bruh I own all the platforms EXCEPT Xbox's lol

Multi means "more than two" not just more than one lol

I heard the new Halo has cost around 500 million to make! I do hope not, I really do, because it’s money that’s not been spent very well if so...
I am more excited to see Microsoft launch a new Surface product, those presentations are great, but this even was a disaster. I mean even if I didn’t like TLOU2 storyline the quality is way up there in the game, where was this with Microsoft? People are also saying all the gams that were PC and Series X only will be 1 to 2 years out because the Series X will have no exclusive games for that time, hence why you saw a lot of trailers as the games are no where near ready.
And they were stating how detailed Forza is, which is a direct shot at Gran Turismo, but we actually saw GT7 gameplay, Forza was literally a 15 second CGI clip.. of Sony lineup GT7 as a launch game then that alone will sell a few million consoles.
No idea what the Xbox marketing team think they are doing, they should go and take some lessons from the Surface department.

Oh and every game will be on Game Pass, basically they are trying as hard as they can to turn gaming into a subscription service, and remember you don’t own a single one of those games in Game Pass, if you do t pay PSN you can still download your digital games, stop Game Pass and you lose it all. They have scrapped the 12 month Xbox Live Gold subscription and so everything is pay monthly now, and costs more, or I believe you can pay for 3 months XBL Gold still. But it’s obvious where MS are heading, next the games will ONLY be available on Game Pass..

I'm no fanboy either way, was eying going XBOX this gen, but I have to admit, nothing really wowed me during the xbox game reveals.

@TheFrenchiestFry Then stop using the console defender go to response to try damage control. It's on multiple platforms.

The games were ok, but MS needed more than that to get people hyped. The games that looked good either showed so very little or none of the game off.

@Menchi Xbox & PC = two platforms

Multi = "more than two"

you just need to pick up a Webstar's Dictionary, or better yet an Oxford Compendium.

@Sebatrox Literally none of those games were shown.

@TheFrenchiestFry More than one my guy, hence multiplat

@thefirst Of course you'd have one if Microsoft gave you one for free. What a ridiculous thing to say.

@thefirst You would. Even if only to sell it.

Definitely sony all the way.... The only game they showed which would perhaps sway me was fable but that is just one game!

The Xbox reveal was hot garbage

What a surprise, the playstation site thinks the playstation reveal was superior...
What next, asking if ducks like water?
(For reference I think the Xbox reveal today scores a B to the playstation reveal also scoring a B, however the difference is negligible and entirely fanboy flamed)
Edit: the article is very fair in pointing out how close the two were, it's a shame that's not reflected in the poll.

Halo, what's the big fuss?

Maybe it was really good back in the day but it looks average at best, really mediocre. This is their big hope?!

Horizon Zero Dawn, God of War, The Last of Us Part II, hell even Days Gone, all look better than a supposedly next gen game let alone feature more compelling storylines, characters and world-building. If Halo is the best Xbox has got then you're welcome to it!

😂😂😂

PS - Ori looks really good though.

☹️

I knew Halo would be held back by current generation that should have been a XSX exclusive, sad. I like the look of it but it looks very much current generation with a few graphical upgrade, a shame. While Xbox does have some games I liked Sony for me showed off next generation a lot better, with game's like R&C Rift Apart, Horizon Forbidden West, Demon Souls etc. Getting PlayStation 5 first and then picking up XSX. It's good to know Games like Gears, Horizon Forza 4, Ori all get graphical upgrades.

Did Microsoft show anything that truly screamed NEXT GEN? Was there a showcase where you thought to yourself...HOLY CRAP! I saw new games, some that looked cool, some that looked meh, all that looked very this gen.

I do find it interesting that Xbox has already moved away from the "not forcing generations" argument they were saying made them more gamer friendly. I guess the external polling didn't favor their position.

https://www.theverge.com/2020/7/23/21335984/microsoft-xbox-series-x-exclusive-next-gen-promise

@Akurusu I agree with you. The comments are skewed heavily for Playstation because of the site. I'm personally a Playstation guy and I thought Xbox's event was great. It honestly made me ponder my purchase for a minute.

Seriously????
A mostly of not entirely playstation website asking if xbox had a better showing??
And there's ACTUALLY A pole to answer?
Lol JOKES

As always, nothing worth getting an xbox for.

For me it’s a no brainer. I waited and gave Microsoft another chance after selling my Xbox one x only after 1 month to see if they will impress. In fact it did the complete opposite. Major disappointment but I wasn’t surprised. PS5 day one for me. This made my mind up. I don’t think I’ll ever get an Xbox ever again.

Let me be bloody honest about something that should be obvious to every one.

Ps event was not something godly. The only reason it did well was because it had a ps5 reveal in it. Other than that, there were maybe 3 or 4 very good games (one of which is partially build on a current game, spider man)

Sony however does not need to "impress" any one to have them buy their machine. People are already hell bent enough a ps, regardless of what happens with it. Sony doesn't have to make your mind up. It's always been made up.

On the other hand, MS is working on recovering from a disaster of a current generation reveal, which has taken years to revert the damage that was cussed in 2013.

Microsoft had to do exceptionally well to even sway the people into considering changing their target purchase from ps to Xbox. They failed that requirement.

Regardless of who says what about the quality of the show, one thing was absolutely clear in this show. , (which I honestly won't give more than a 7), was that no one can say with a straight face that Xbox does not have games worth playing.

Whether you play them on pc or Xbox, they do not care. But let's be very honest. Most of the population as per steam survey clearly shows that majority of gamers do not have high end PCs. Feel free to play games where ever you want. They exist. They will either be played on pc or Xbox, but they will be played nevertheless.

If any one who legit calls themselves a gamer, claim that games like hell blade, medium, fable, everwild, and a few others aren't worth playing, then don't kid your self. You are trying to behave like a rabid fanboy and not a legit gamer.

The mistake that this event made was that it didn't show in game footage, but to be honest? It still showed that they are working on bringing games to Xbox.

Whether "you like them" or not, is irrelevant. Your "liking them" is not a precursor for that game to be considered a game. (1/2)

@TrolleyProblems There's a Part 2?!

Oh boy.

🤦

Some of their games look good but nothing as good as R&C, Demon's Souls or Horizon.

Halo is their big franchise but it looks incredibly generic and instantly forgettable fluff.

Give me the likes of God of War and Horizon all week long!

With that said, halo, that every one is bashing, and I entirely agree, looked like a game from 2015.

Be reasonable for a moment. Drop your gloves for a second. Hear me out. It is absolutely clear to me, that the game build that halo demo was shown in is older than the one currently in development.

Please save my comment for future reference to prove me wrong in future and for the "I told you so!" factor.

I am almost absolutely certain that, had the game was not shown, it would have been a bigger disaster for the event. Why? Because the game actually looked fantastic from "playing" perspective. What it severely lacked was graphics. There is no way I can imagine this build being the current build when it was missing all the textures. Grass was popping in and out. It is clearly still in development but the development felt older than the one they are working with. I have seen trailers before and it's quite evident that the demo was on older build.

With that said. That game play was absolutely fantastic. Guns felt like they had heft behind them. Punches felt solid. Body thudding factor was there. What lacked was the graphics. Which I believe needs to be heavily adjusted before game is released.

They should have shown some game play. Any gameplay for a bunch of games. Even 10 seconds. But they didn't, which costed them at least 2 points in my score.

It is what it is. But be realistic. Be honest. Take a deep breath. You will see that they had tonnes of games, to suggest that they are working on giving games to their user base.

Let's be civil and keep our selves slightly more objective than the way we are behaving for the moment. 2/2

I just finished watching.
While I’m definitely looking forward to play all those games on PC, I feel like Microsoft is using their 12TF to only double or triple the frame rates of the Xbox One X. But kept the graphics almost the same as what is possible on Xbox One X or PS4 Pro. Just running on 4k60fps or 4k120fps.

It wasn’t bad, but the next-gen feeling is not there. With Ratchet and Clank PS5 had the true next gen moment (ray tracing, example of super fast SSD in action).

Plus most of what was shown is just CGI.

Sony certainly has had the stronger show so far but I will be getting the new XBox further down the line. Always been a PS guy but have also had every Xbox to date and let's be honest they have some stellar games - Halo, Gears, Forza among numerous others and Game Pass is a revolutionary system seller. I personally think the new Halo looks great. Lot of hatred on here for Halo but If you haven't played Halo multiplayer from 2 & 3 you're missing out on the finest multiplayer experiences ever. But I'm certainly more stoked for PS5 choice of games ! Can't wait

@Col_McCafferty see, I do actually have horizon but I do not enjoy God of war. It's the kind of game I do not enjoy.

Sorry about the long posts. Frankly, as far as graphics go? R&C is not next Gen. What is next Gen about R&C imho is the fact that it is utilizing a critical component of new generation ps, known as ssd.

Graphics? Nah. I respectfully disagree. I will buy the game regardless, because I love the way that game looks. Not because it has high end graphics. But because of the way that game looks. Crash bandicoot style. I love it.

When I watched the Halo video later on I thought it was parody at first. Seriously haha its never been my type of game so I dont know what it's supposed to be.
Otherwise I feel it's a typical xbox presentation with a lot of FPS or first person view that arent my thing at all and a lot of CG.

@TrolleyProblems Halo looks really poor.
Days Gone, Death Stranding, Uncharted 4 these are all existing PS4 titles that look better.

If you enjoy Halo then that's cool, but this is a PlayStation site so don't be too surprised to find people on here disagree with your opinion.

I was honestly expecting some shockers...This was kind of bad tbh.

@TrolleyProblems
R&C definitely next gen. Compare with previous ones. Also it has 'free' Ray Tracing already 😃

This may be the first time I dont buy a sony console at launch as what I've seen so far of the ps5 has been very underwhelming. Xbox isnt far ahead but gamepass is awesome and they're really pushing it this gen. Still open minded but at the minute xbox at launch and ps5 next year some point

Did not see it was sleeping nightshift. 😆

@swagbag713 In his defence,both Xbox and PC, can be given under the umberla as team microsoft,hence "one platform",since nobody creates games for MACs,nowerdays.

The PS5 showcase was better for sure though it's obvious both have saved big stuff for later as they play chicken over price announcements.

Sony has confirmed that the PS5 will be backwards compatible with your PS4 games. According to the Wired article, the next-gen console won't be a digital only machine, it'll still accept physical media, and because it's based on the PS4 architecture is will be backwards-compatible for PS4 games.

******Now it's been confirmed that you can play PS4 games on PS5 straight off an external hard drive - so you might wanna start moving them all on over now.****** THIS CONCERN ME !!!!!! DOES THIS MEAN I HAVE TO HAVE AN EXTERNAL DRIVE TO PLAY PS4 GAMES ?

There's no word on PS3, PS2 or older games as yet, but no doubt PlayStation Now will be making the move to PS5 too.

@Col_McCafferty I agree. All those and then some, still look better than that halo I saw. Graphics wise, it was crap..

As far as people disagreeing with me goes, I don't have an issue with that. I just want people to be logical when they do.

But if it's all about how Sony is where God resides, then I will honestly simply tell them to go take a hike.

@JJ2 again, the game it self is current Gen. Add Ray tracing and that quick teleport and dimension change and it's next Gen.

The graphical difference between current Gen and next Gen is not very much in my honest opinion.

And what I mean to say by that is that it's cartoonish. When people say "next Gen", I assume realism in graphics is what it's referring to.

I got really excited when I saw S.T.A.L.K.E.R. 2. Other than that nothing special really. Maybe also CrossfireX was not bad looking either along with Forza, but that's all.

Just finished watching the Xbox event. Wow,incredibly disappointing. If Obsidian is trying to make an Elder Scrolls like game with Avowed, that would be the game that interested me most. But they showed almost nothing, so I'm just hoping.

Honestly, I wonder if I will be waiting on next gen. I haven't seen much that makes me want to run out and buy a new console.

@TrolleyProblems
On Halo, different strokes I guess. I found the game play slow and uninteresting. I've never been a Halo fan though.

Given this is a PlayStation focussed site the result was a given. I was really impressed by everything I saw and thought that Microsoft pretty much smashed it out of the park. Except for Halo Infinite. It looked surprisingly dated considering the importance of the franchise to Xbox. The most exciting part of the PS5 presentation was the console reveal itself. And the console is ugly as hell. None of the PS5 exclusives blew me away. I really think Xbox Game Pass is going to be a huge deal this generation. I love my PS4 but Sony have some work to do to stay on top from what I've seen so far.

@tinCAT-zero Forza has been a far better game than GT for years now.

@tatsumi Ratchet and Clank did not look at all next gen imo. Apart from the level transitions the graphics look very current gen. I'm sure it will be a great game but I really have a feeling of The Emperor's New Clothes with what's been revealed so far for next gen.

@TrolleyProblems Thank you! I hate fanboy comments that disregard amazing games on "rival" consoles. Good games are good games.

I was expecting some kind of or even attempt to have their "mic drop" moment however nothing. I see no reason for me to invest in their console. There was very little substance in what they showed for me. I don;t care about the Series X being "the most powerful console." They did not show me any new gaming experiences or anything truly unique to set them apart. It was just more of the same as we already see on the XBox One X.

I felt it was really underwhelming.

I watched it with an open mind trying to see what Microsoft was planning but it was a bit of a mess.

Halo is by far their biggest IP, yet it had a MEDIOCRE showing with tons of glitches (pop-in, shadow issues, poor animations).

Fable is arguably the other big release....but it's also pretty niche and they barely showed anything.

The rest was mostly meh......nothing show there will tempt Nintendo or Song fans to jump ship.

Maybe that's why they REALLY tried to highlight that all the games are free with gamepass...."not the games you want, but hey! They're free**!"

@__jamiie absolutely agreed.

The PS5 event had Ratchet and Clank to showcase the power of SSD, featured five upcoming games that people are excited about Demon Souls, Spiderman Miles Morales, HZD, Deathloop and Resident Evil 8 and of course the console reveal.

The Xbox event is just an hour long promotion for Gamepass and the Halo Infinite gameplay only proves that the current gen will hold back the next-gen console.

MS has had two showcases now, Sony had one and at this point the only thing I know for sure is unless Sony screws up pricing really badly I'll get a PS5 day one. MS could still to turn things around but right now it's looking like I'll get a Series X 9 months-a year after launch, same length of time I waited to get an Xbox One.

ps5 no question... Halo infinite looked like a silky smooth xbox one game and that's what they are hanging their hat on? Are you kidding me? For a system as powerful as they tout it to be they certainly didn't show the games needed to push the hardware. This is why Sony continues to win, because they make games people want to play and they provide the exclusives that push systems.

As someone who buys all the consoles, that was a huge disappointment. I’ll still buy the Series X because I’m sure there will be stuff I want to play, but so far, they’ve been very unconvincing when it comes to software.

Xbox has had two bites at the apple, and both were disappointments. New game announcements are always cool, but we might as well have been watching E3 2014 for Xbox One. I understand the Xbox crowd being desperate for games given the utter lack of them the last couple of years, but this wasn't a "next gen" showcase. This was...sad.

@__jamiie the graphics indeed look like current gen, just more detailed and a higher resolution. But the gameplay so far showed no pop-ins in the distance, ray tracing and the dimensional jumps showing instant loading of assets.
3 things I expect next gen to deliver.

Halo already has pop-ins seen in the demo and the graphics also looked quite current gen.
I will still get Halo since I enjoy the series. But on PC.

I own and play on pretty much any device, and wouldn’t say I am biased towards PlayStation. I still think Sony had the better showcase though.
Maybe with The Medium we might see some more next-gen moments soon.

Sony must have been leaked the Xbox showcase video, which resulted in the upping of the PS5 manufacturing output.

It had the X factor for extinction.

Nothing in this presentation made me say "Wow, now I need to get an XBOX". Lots of Console Launch Exclusives which is very vague in terms of where it will be coming to. After the PS5 event, I was ecstatic and couldn't wait for next gen Resident Evil, Spiderman and Deathloop. There was nothing about the Xbox Event that made me excited for Next Gen. I'm hoping that Gamescom will fill in some of the gaps in the launch year calendar. Fingers crossed for the Hogwarts game to finally be officially revealed

All I took from that is it's time Halo was given to some other dev team. When your killer app reveal on your newest machine looks that bad and utterly generic then something has gone horribly wrong. 343i have no talent whatsoever.

There isn't really a reason for me to buy a Series X as I have a PC and I believe everything shown was also going to be on PC, I'm very excited for Halo Infinite tho

PS5. Xbox are making great strides but there main ace is Gamepass which is great for digital..

Personally Halo looked unoriginal... Forza is Forza....

Sony certainly showed more interesting titles

@PSfan4Life22 that was the big take away for me, they have a lot of game that I want to olay but they still look a long way off releasing. Fable barely resembled a game, Hellblade 2 didn't even have a trailer and is being built in an engine that doesn't even come out until next year, Avowed looked pretty epic and given that plus the size and current projects of the studio I wouldn't expect to see that for a long time either.

I kinda refuse decide. I don't like to judge games on CGI or only "cinematic in-engine" cutscenes.
I lean towards PS5 myself. Although fun, these presentations don't really mean much to me in regards to deciding factors which games are better.

I need more gameplay videos to judge properly.

Halo looked old school didn’t know it was going to switch as well 😂

I have been saying for months that tflops are meaningless and that the narrative that series x was the more powerful system was wrong. The Ps5 was built from the groundup to eliminate bottlebecks. To that end it has a bunch of extra silicon not present on series x. Then of course there is the industry leading ssd/Io throughput which is 2.3 times faster than series x. Despite what ignorant people think, the ssd/Io is not just for eliminating load tines, rather it is a fundamental component of cobsole perfirmance. In addition tge tempest 3D sound chip is a modified Cu as powerful as a ps4. Aside from freeing up the Cpu from sound production, it can also be used for graphics and other computations. Many developers have confirmed this. So when all bottlenecks are accounted for and it's other hardware advantages utilized, the Ps5 has superior performance and power. And the games demonstrated that today. This was Microsoft's chance to try and upstage Sony and they failed miserably. Unlike Sony, Microsift just dies not know hiw to put on a good show or what their fans want. Aside from a few exceptions most games were cinematic teaser trailers. Short and unimoressive. They also showed too many current gen games and filler nobody wanted see. Like hellblade being in iceland and how there was a a scouting location vudeo about it. People wanted to see new gameplay trailers. If Sony has another successful ahow in August then this vattke is almost over before it even staryed. Not that it matters. It is obviius Micrisoft doesn't care about conaoles anymore. Their ficus is getting game pass on every platform. Mark my words Microsoft will not make another console next gen. Instead the xbox brand like netflix will be a service on Ps6, nintendo, mobile, and pc.

@nessisonett I think STALKER is just a timed console launch exclusives no? Not a full on exclusive?

Is it true that The Medium is coming to PS5?
That's the one I found looked cool.

I always get all the major consoles and after watching all the conferences my takeaway was this: All 3 major platform holders have established their own identity now. Xbox is like Netflix. You aren't going to pay as much and you're going to get a lot of stuff with gamepass but most of the stuff isn't going to be as good as quality as something like a Marvel movie. Sony is making big budget blockbusters and doing it well. Nintendo makes Nintendo games and does what it does best in the portable space. I think they all 3 have a place now and it's a good thing.

Suspicion confirmed. Absolutely 0 reasons for me to want an Xbox.

@TrolleyProblems I agree the halo gameplay looked good but... it had to, it’s halo their flagship title.

I don’t understand why they would use an old build of a game with graphical pop ups to reveal their next gen intentions. Remember MS have been planning this moment for years. I don’t buy it.

More like the game has to cater to the lowest common denominator being the X1?

It was decent enough, but I saw nothing that made me think should I get one of those too! Fable, Stalker & The Medium will be good but as others have said there wasn't really much game play on show.
PS5 all the way for me.

The microsoft event was more interesting and the games are the ones I wanted to see with a lot of extra ones as well. The biggest selling point is gamespass. Microsoft are consumer friendly playstation is not.

No contest sony. Depending on how much project Lockhart is I'm probably gonna skip Xbox this gen.

@Col_McCafferty Do you mean the classic God of War or the new one that tried to be The Last of Us & ended up being an average action-adventure game? Not everyone wants the template Sony keeps using for almost every single first party game.

@Akurusu 😂😂😂

@Ken_Kaniff Right? And the people will try to argue against it like it isn’t true.

@get2sammyb There is no “if”.

@JJ2 No, unfortunately it looks like that The Medium will remain a series X exclusive.

For anybody doubtful of the accuracy of a PS community poll, Resetera and Neogaf also show PS5 at 80% preference.

I think Sony's was better overall, it seemed there was a bit more variety genre wise and I think it more interesting exclusives personally. However, Microsoft's game pass and promise of 100 games on launch is a really great selling point for the system. Also, Microsoft didn't start their conference with footage of GTA V for some strange reason.

One thing I am finding confusing right now is that we're 5 months out at most and we still don't have a solid release date or price point for either console.

No gamplay. Xbox very disappointing. Shocking

Seems obvious to be fair.
Halo looked like a standard Borderlands 3.5 game with current gen graphics. The rest had no gameplay at all, which means that the excitement for that is 0 or close to 0.
Also most games shown are meh...
Not to be a fanboy but...poor Xbox x)

@Cloud9 there are going to be just as many (or more) games playable on the PS5 at launch, don’t forget they’re talking about b/c games and the vast majority of PS4 games will work on the ps5 as sony has stated.

@EquiinoxGII I am not sure about that. Throughout their show they focused on "launch exclusive" and that was not shown during those trailers to my memory. Plus both bloober team and ESPECIALLY remedy have been multiplat focused. Even if they are launch exclusive then they will still eventually make their way to ps5.

On the off chance that they are full exclusives then they arent enough to get me to buy the series x. I had a 360 for the longest time but when I finally got my hands on playstation exclusives I switched to the ps3. I would LOVE for microsoft to give me a reason to switch back, but they just keep dropping the ball.

Their developers dont have something that sonys first party does. I'm not sure if its creativity, or if its creative freedom, or if it is just experience. But it REALLY showed during the BIG HALO REVEAL that they cant hold a candle to Sony.

Can't really comment on this. Never been a fan of traditional Xbox's exclusives, Forza, Halo, Gears, and Fable. So, my impression is already expected even before the show.

when you look at this gen we are in now & you compare the 2 companies MS have been a joke!
it really baffles me how anyone still has positive energy for them.
it was poor & more mixed messages from Team Xbox & Phil the billy bull......!

Sony had a solid show, but lacked any form of surprises honestly.

Microsoft i only watched to see what i can enjoy on PC, and i was not disappointed.

All in all, both pretty decent, but the return of Demon souls puts Sony one step ahead for me

So this is what spencer meant by "you'll see the extra power of series x compared to our competitors" lol. That ratchet n clank demo blew everything xbox showed outta the water. In terms of looking next gen.

I guarantee if you ever see a killzone game on ps5 it will make halo infinite look visually like a relic!!! Heck even kz shadowfall a ps4 launch game is as pretty as halo infinite!

@TrolleyProblems

"R&C Rift Apart not next generation"

Your not getting any current generation game that densely detailed, with ray tracing,practical effects etc, there is a clear graphical difference between the latest PS4 & Rift Apart, and that's before you even talk about the SSD.

Not interested in Xbox, so didn't watch. As far as 'exclusives', sounds like more of the same. That isn't "a bad thing", but more of the stuff which hasn't interested me before isn't really a selling point.

Man, doing a search on Xbox and they are being skewered. Not the response they were hoping for I bet.

@Exlee300p I will save this comment of yours for future reference. "if and when" digital foundry does end up proving you wrong, I will notify you in future.

Thank you.

Edit: To clarify, I am mostly talking about the "power" portion of your comment, and that Xbox can't keep up on games with Sony. And that teraflops don't matter.

@Dodoo nope. That honestly can't be the case.

There are already pictures floating showing the difference between assets in trailer and assets in demo, showing things that were missing in demo, including giant rocks and stuff.

I am Simply going to wait for this to happen. No way a game with a budget size that huge is going to be called "2015" when it's properly patched. It's just absurd to believe that and think Microsoft would allow for one of their most prized franchises to look like that in a machine they keep tooting as the most powerful console.

It doesn't make any logical sense to be honest.

@banacheck I am honestly checking articles and videos by insomniac, and they keep mentioning it being possible only on new Gen because of inclusion of ssd.

The game should be possible for Ps4, if the loading times and advance graphical techniques are lowered. This includes RT.

The graphics, controller triggers and the loading times are what Marcus from Insomniac was talking about in his video on why R&C is not possible on Ps4.

I am just going by what the director of insomniac has said. shrugs

@lacerz they should be. It was a dumb move on their part for what happened. Even most die hard Xbox followers agree that MS dropped the ball in certain areas of that presentation. That show felt like a showcase for game pass, and not new generation console. Know what I mean?

@Paranoimia just an FYI, you are incorrect. It was one of the most diversified lineup MS has ever shown. It had alot of different types of games that were not shooter. You should keep an eye out. Games weren't the issue. But the presentation it self was the problem. Incorrect build usage for halo for one, almost no game play for another.

Perhaps games are still early in development stages.

@DavLFC he must have been talking about Nintendo! 😂

@TrolleyProblems yes while I agree with what you said I think there are a number of other factors at play here.

For example halo being an x1 game originally and being ”optimized” for series x.

Also it’s properly open world so assets may be less detailed anyway. If it does turn out to be way inferior to what eventually releases then we can at least say the game is quite a way off yet. Compare it to ratchet and clank for example and it looks decidedly lacking imo.

Having said that I believe ray tracing has already been ruled out which goes in favour of my “developing to the lowest common denominator” comment earlier.

@Dodoo lol yeah. It seems spencer sees the Atari jaguar as direct competition! haha.

The Xbox event was like watching an hour of TV adverts!

@Dodoo honestly, I don't know how that game is developed for x1 and is being scaled up.

If I recall, check the Minecraft video demonstration they did. The difference between Ray tracing VS no ray tracing was huge.

I will do some more research and figure this out.

@Akurusu Yea and you cant say anything negative about Sony on this site, or this community with jump down your throat. I've been called a troll or an Xbox fanboy just for disagreeing with something Sony announced.

I thought MS had a good stream. A few titles I really liked the look of, and Fable alone is enough to get me interested in Series X. But Sony is still in the lead for my personal tastes. It'll be interesting to see if the rumoured August event turns out to be true!

@stocko Yeah, I’ve seen that now. Since I have a PC, I’m not going to be getting an Xbox anyway but I am invested in their output because Game Pass is such a great deal.

@Sebatrox The article is about who had the best reveal not a list of which games you like.

@S1ayeR74
Yep, screamed timed exclusive - everything else claims to also be on 'Windows PC'.
So no actual exclusives?

PS5 looking to be console of choice, and an adequate PC to get everything.

@Kefka2589 Avowed stood out to me too - though it'll be released on PC also it claims, so I'll likely get to play it regardless.

Sony had the best event and the better exclusives for my taste. What I don't like is Microsoft not giving me a reason to buy xbox sx . We're in a different time now where most of us have gaming PC's or PC's with some gaming capabilities. So for me, if I like a Xbox title I'll just buy on PC. No point to buy new xbox.

We've been hearing of solid 60fps since the PS2 days and now they can barely hit a solid 30fps on the PS4, what makes me think they'll nail 120 on the PS5? Maybe by the PS8 [aka PS Cloud] but I doubt it.

@thefirst Ha that's funny that you say that about not wanting an Xbox even if it were free. About a year ago I was standing outside my work next to the recycle dumpster at night, and I looked into the dumpster and saw a box for a flat screen TV. I said "I wonder what kind of TV these people bought." I turned on my flashlight on my phone and directed it on the box. Sitting right on top of the box was a PS4. I said "no way that works, but maybe it'll have a bigger hard drive than my PS4". Turned out the damn thing worked perfectly. So I was gonna just have two PS4 consoles, but the whole licensing thing and "main console" just made it too irritating to keep both as far as being able to just play any game on either one with no roadblocks. So I put it on OfferUp and Letgo. I got a message from someone asking if I'd want to trade for a One X. I thought about it, because I highly doubted I'd buy one on my own. Then I thought about well what do I really want to play that I can only play on Xbox? Forza? Too redundant. Gears? Can do without it. State of Decay 2? I got TLoU and Days Gone to fill that genre. Whatever that sorry ass pirate game that was supposed to be a big deal was called? I'm good on that game too. Halo? Hasn't been worth a damn after the first two, while the third was okay. So what is there to even play on that console? You go to Walmart and the Xbox section of games takes up like one section with the two glass doors. Their PS section takes up twice, or more, the amount of shelf space for their games. So I told the guy naw on trading him for his Xbox, because what's there to play? Oh wait they got that game with Terry Crews! GTF outta here with their sorry selection of choices. So I was literally given the opportunity to own an Xbox One X for absolutely free and couldn't think of one reason to take it. I kinda wanted a reason to get it to be able to play something that I'd not be able to play otherwise (well even though you still can play it on PC) but nothing was there for me to do it. Sony just cares more about what I like which is story driven narratives. Sony showed that they invest more into what they put out. Didn't see Microsoft's presentation, but after all the horrible things I've read it sounds like more of the same. Microsoft just doesn't invest (not speaking only monetarily) in the content they put out.

Xbox Series X clearly had the X-Factor - 10%

what was that? Craig face?

Pushsquare must be feeling pretty insecure about the PS5. They needed to do a survey about the Sony and Xbox show, on a playstation site, that is guaranteed to be playstation fan heavy in viewership, just so they can get a winning poll to feel better about their brand. C'mon, can this site get anymore pathetic.

@TrolleyProblems Terraflops do not matter in the way MS is floating them, and you can wait for the fakes at Digital Foundry if you want, Alex over there I’d a die hard Xbox fan so I’m more then sure he’ll lie and make some crap up to prove your point..

@ViperXT no it's you who is pathetic. Xbox show was an uninspiring shambles . Halo infinite looked last gen. Awful. Ps5 has won already. Dont be bitter. Phil spencer is the biggest hypocrite conman in the industry. Infinite looked garbage. Spencer preaches how" timed exclusives are ruining the industry " and the proceeds to announce 5 timed exclusives on his own platform. What a clown

I can't believe Xbox signed off on that Halo Infinite demo...it just seemed really bland and it is unforgivable that Xbox's jewel in the crown, Halo, could be presented with such dreadful graphics and...pop-in...where were the 12 Tflops? The "velocity architecture"? Apparently it wasn't even running on a Series X...like what?

Zero gameplay from any other game, whereas the PS5 reveal showed gameplay in about half the games revealed. Personally, it wasn't even close - the PS5 showcase was much better.

As many have said, this is all about Game Pass for MS and I think the rumoured Series S is going to be their main focus this gen. I think the Series X risks getting into trouble if MS does not give people reasons to buy it, especially if it is more expensive than the PS5 (it surely will be, or else there would be no need for a Series S?).

@DavLFC lol...sure, whatever you say...lol