MrGawain

PS5 games may release at £70, but looking at game prices now after 5 months I think it’s pretty obvious they’ve yet to have that many games people want. Godfall, Watchdogs, Dirt, Rainbow Six, Mortal Kombat, Fenyx, all under £30, Demons Souls now down to £55.

I can see eventually 3rd party publishers taking a £50-£60 price start again as gamers move away from buying day one.

Beyond pricing, availability, drift issues, and future business models for both companies, I currently have no interest in purchasing either machine as neither have any worthwhile games now, and the near future doesn’t look better either.

Realistically Sony don’t need to pay money to align their YouTube broadcast with E3 apart for goodwill with all the other publishers.

Also I wonder if they really want to promise marvels when no release date these days is certain. Better to be under their own schedule when they’re confident they have something to say.

The reason games are going up by 17% is because developers think we need games to be 17% longer, 17% more graphically intensive, and 17% more clogged down with cutscenes. BIGGER IS BETTER!

I would argue most people don’t make it halfway through a triple A story game, and by cutting the length by 10-20% of these games instead of making them bigger, you would get a cheaper game which could be made quicker, have less glitches and bugs, have less exhausted developers, and a leaner game that doesn’t outstay it’s welcome.

Case in point (although I haven’t played it) what people said about Cyberpunk 2077.

For me this is a real negative in buying a PS5 in the future, and I may just stick with my Switch. My gaming preference is for Japanese gaming with a focus on colourful, weird games with unique mechanic and tight controls that take themselves less seriously than their western counterparts. It’s the reason I have no interest in an XBox at all. If the PS5 is going to have 6-8 less Japanese games this gen, I question if there is enough exclusive games from Square and Capcom I like to warrant the purchase of a PS5?

Metal Gear Solid is way too Japanese for any studio or company outside Japan to produce it. Capcom, Platinum, Namco, Sega, or Square Enix are probably the only options.

A Direct or State of Play is an advert. You can only have one if you have something to sell in the near future. Nintendo had very little to sell last year, so they didn’t have a Direct.

Don’t worry about Playstation not having a state of play, worry about them not having many games.

I get the feeling that in Japan more than anywhere else, big Japanese produced software sells consoles. Games like Final Fantasy, Persona, Resident Evil, Bloodborne, Monster Hunter, Animal Crossing, Splatoon, and Mario have sold a lot of consoles. At the moment the PS5 has Demon Souls.

In the west I get the feeling there is a percentage of the customer base who will buy a console before any real exclusives are there to drive interest.

Basically any game could be delayed past 2021- just look at how Halo was delayed 10 months already. But then, isn’t that better than a Cyberpunk situation?

Star Wars is a story- A Fairytale in Space. EA has reiterated time and again it would prefer not to make story heavy games.

To me this partnership is like Telltale Making a Usain Bolt game.

As someone who owns an original PS4, I can’t help but see the PS5 as a PS4 pro-pro with a new controller at the moment. I guess that tallys up with this architecture being like a PC and new consoles now just being more powerful versions of the last one.

I don’t think we can say we’re in a new generation until a game comes along that can only be played on the PS5, and does something we didn’t think possible before.

Seeing the current landscape, I think I'm not going to expect anything to release in 21 until it's a fortnight out.

I do question if making a game so large and detailed is actually worth it if it just brings more performance issues? I get these developers are always shooting for the moon, but is any of this stuff actually making the gameplay or the story any better?

If anything all the money they spent on it has just caused people to dislike the game. I worry if this signals problems for other developers as they start to overstretch to use the PS5’s power.

I think it's not so much for the player, but so as not to upset anyone sitting with you who sees you playing a game with rude bits.

I guess generally if you’ve not received the right item and want a replacement they haven’t got, they give you a 1/3 apology payment. I bet they’re happy to do this when you buy something at £14.99 and get a fiver, but head office probably just figured out as all these missing PS5s is going to cut into their profit margin.

Pleased you used the Godawful subheading.

IGN have been saying they've seen metrics that the disc less version accounts for less than 1% of stock. Guessing they didn't make enough to fill orders so they've upgraded some peoples orders.

If your enjoyment wasn’t impacted by blissful ignorance that the graphics weren’t on the high settings, does it really matter?

I’ve had lots of Sony products break or fail on me shortly after purchase. I include 2 PS1s and my PS4’s eject button in that list, but I don’t need the grief of a Sony TV to play Final Fantasy 7.

Rule of retail: If you overprice something, you can always discount it. If you underprice, you can’t put the price up.

I’m pretty sure the £70 price point won’t last.

To improve financial quality. For them.

The way this game has been marketed, I get the feeling they always knew it was coming out in February.

They just needed something to show the console in action to excite people for the launch.

The biggest problem the PS5 (and XBX) has is that at this very moment, no game has justified it’s existence as they’re still going to be on the PS4 (and one on the PS3). The only true exclusives have been delayed until next year. No matter if the made Miles Morales and Sack Boy PS5 exclusives, it’s obvious they don’t need a PS5 to run.

When those PS5 exclusives (including Ratchet and Clank) start turning up and are something you can’t get on the PS4, then I’ll think about getting one... maybe.

There looks to be some good games in the launch lineup, But you can play most of them on current hardware. I personally don’t believe it’s worth investment in a new console for the foreseeable future for myself.

I question if Sony had any intention of this being a launch game. And if they did, at what point did they figure out it wouldn’t be ready, announcing this 3 weeks from launch?

“It just doesn’t launch on PS5 for some odd reason”.

I was assuming Sony had pinpointed a set of games with a certain architecture, or a too low fidelity, or used an incompatible peripheral. But now in my head I’m thinking they got an intern with a pile of discs to shove each one into the thing and see which ones didn’t work.

Just over a month to go, and we’ve seen trailers but not that much in gameplay- especially for Destruction Allstars. I would think you would need a little more to go on before you dropped £70 day one.

“Did this one sell enough to make it’s budget back?”

“Nope.”

“Well now it’s multi platform!”

“The way we’ll make it up to you is by giving you the chance to give us more money.”

Wow, I’ve never felt so loved!

I totally believe it was built for the PS5.

I question how radically different the games on PS5 will be from the PS4 aside from load times, FPS and Picture fidelity if they can get this to run on previous hardware.

I think with any console launch, you don’t really know what you’re getting until it’s connected to your telly- Youtube and trailers can only really tell part of the story.

I’ll be curious to see if the XBS will be ‘Next Gen enough’ for people, seeing it’s somewhere between the current standard and the XBX standard. (Admittedly I’m happy with my Switch’s graphics).

I would have assumed Destruction Allstars was just modern Destruction Derby without the rights for the name?

If this isn’t good then I demand a review with a subheading with the letters AW inserted in it’s title.

I bought a PS4 because the Wii U library was running dry, and I wanted to get Arkham, along with a few of the niche Japanese games and a few indies.

This generation I find Nintendo seems to have those sort of niche Japanese games and indies, and the triple A lineup has left me a bit cold. Overall I enjoyed Arkham, God of War, Spider-Man, The Last Guardian, FF15 and FF7, but I do wonder to myself if it’s worth buying a console for 6 games I like and can’t get elsewhere?

The jury is out and I’ll sit on the fence for some time.

Just been looking at the PlayStation 5 lineup page on their website. There are two different tabs that say ‘PS5 exclusive’ and ‘PlayStation Console exclusive’. Apparently Bugsnax, Oddworld and Stray seem to be straddling the PS4 and PS5.

https://www.playstation.com/en-gb/ps5/games/?smcid=pdc%3Aen-gb%3Aprimary%2520nav%3Amsg-games%3Aps5

I'm happy with my decision to stick with the PS4/Switch at the moment. I get the feeling both new consoles are 6 months early until we get next gen worthy games, and probably 18 months before having anything I really want to play. I think Nintendo had a much more sensible release strategy of March when only the die hards needed to order, and neither Sony or Microsoft gave their images any favours with not having true next gen experiences ready at launch.

It's great for kids to get for Christmas, but you're buying promise, not an actual step up yet. The PS4 isn't done yet!

Isn’t it weird the vague promise of stuff in 2-3 years is far more exciting than the stuff you’ll actually be playing in 2-3 months?

Sure there’s a moral in this somewhere....

The problem with any new product is you’re asking a factory of assembly line workers to put them together for the first time, and are probably pushing them too fast as you try to get more product.

I’m of the belief releasing consoles for Christmas with game delays, supply issues and going head to head with competition isn’t the smartest business plan any more.

Oh the irony of the name of this game....

I don’t feel any sympathy towards Sony. If you don’t want a console war, then don’t release a console at the same time as XBox. It’s pretty obvious the XBX is a loss leader to get a customer base for games and subscriptions (with the hope of the subscription model being so successful it subsidises the price), but PlayStation still has a 5 to 1 advantage on 1st party IP over Xbox. Why bother winning the early war when you can pick people up later with stuff people want to play?

I have visions of a grey blast print adorning the wall next to a mounted PS5.

If I was going to buy a next gen console... and that’s a big if.... It would still be a PS5 due to it likely to have games I want to play as opposed to the XBX.

But saying that, I think I’m good with my Switch for quite a while.

I tend to buy Madden and FIFA once per console. I enjoyed the last one (I think it was 16?), but after you figure the timing out, it makes the game very easy, even on the harder levels.

It’s not a bad game, it just suffers from very little change every year like all the sports games...

...And several other every year AAA titles as well.

If you have to change the name after a year of announcing a game, you announced it too early.

A window is a very vague measurement, isn’t it?

Depends on if we’re talking a bay window or one of those little one’s in the downstairs loo that only opens half an inch.

Sony vs Microsoft No blinking competition over price.

In the meantime I’m convinced there isn’t a good reason to order a machine that could be any price, have no games I want to play that are likely to be rushed anyway, and could still be delayed. The PS5‘S and XBX’s biggest competition for Christmas is the current generation of gaming that comes with so much certainty.

To be honest this is a fancy trailer that could be about anything if you didn’t have the PlayStation logo on it. The fact there is no direct references to games makes me feel like we may see a few more game delays before the thing is released.

Basically what Warner valued their games division for themselves isn’t worth what other companies want to pay.

The IP is appealing, but having to pay a fee to hire thousands of workers isn’t.

Best not to scratch a Dark Souls itch, there are creams for that.

I’m betting it’ll be a “game X coming to PS4, and you’ll be able to carry your disc/digital purchase over to the PS5” thing.