Clive. What a guy.

Will monoblock your driveway during the day and slash monsters at night.

I can only imagine it runs like a bag of you know what on the og Xbox one

@gort132 Again. Where are you getting 100k a year from?

It's a couple of weeks.. absolutely no reason for the tears.

@gort132 U wot m8?

Are you really saying all the staff get 100k a year? Are you off your nut?

@Kidfried it means it's playable and passes qa but testing late on may have found some pretty game breaking bugs not picked up earlier so rather than release like that and get complaints they've pushed it back for a big day 0 patch.

It does mean one bad thing.. in 15 20 years when psn is killed for PS4 and 5 then those disc versions already printed will be inherently broken for those loading up on an old machine for nostalgia's sake.

On a separate note the Twitter seethe is strong. It's a couple of days...some folk need to chill.

The whole 3 people who pre ordered this will be miffed.

I read that as 3 different ways rather than 1 stated in the article. @quintumply

So you can either connect to same network and transfer

Or use external storage

Or sign in and download profile etc.

Otherwise if that was all one process then you'd be required to buy an external drive.

The key was "in the following ways"

@BusyOlf MAGA ones for the hillbillys.

@Fred_Red I'd say that's harsh just because it's a go daddy website. Small businesses need to start somewhere. Plus you can check out with PayPal so you are protected.

It'll likely be renders just now until they get exact dimensions.

Here's hoping Sony do official ones soon enough so those of us who want a black console can get one.

@Rob_230 ray tracing has squat to do with 4k or hdr

There's meant to be a copy over from PS4 tool like from the PS4 to pro.

I've still got mine on my pro so I hold out hope... For nostalgia's sake.

It's not been a bad gen has it?

Completely unrelated to this game but what's the deal with all the adverts on the main page now on mobile. It's practically article, advert, article, advert. Having to scroll a whole page just to get to the next couple of headlines before yet another whole page advert.

@BowTiesAreCool yea I was thinking I thought that was possible already. Must have been the app I'd seen it.

@Flaming_Kaiser it didn't look particularly pleasing on the eye. Sure it's glitzy but it seemed a bit disorganised to me..it's hard to tell with what little we seen but it looks a little cluttered.

Month to go so hopefully once we're hands on it'll make more sense from a user perspective.

Looks alright if a little cluttered.

I like the voice transcribe for messages.
Seems fast/slick as you'd expect.
The hints system seems good but I doubt Devs will properly embrace it other than first parties.

The in game cards seem quite cluttered
The ps menu for games seems again a tad cluttered.

It's hard to say based on the video of course.. my eyes were wandering off to check other areas which weren't explained so hands on might be much better.

@JinxMax really dude? I've had one Xbox console (360) and I've no intention of getting a series X or S and have my ps5 pre ordered.

Just because nothing excited me about the UI other than it being slick which was always gonna be a given with new hardware that makes me a Xbox fan boy? Idiotic comment.

I'm sorry I forgot about the memo to fawn over every PS reveal as if it's the greatest thing ever.

Meh. Nothing exciting.

Really wish we could carry over the ff7 remake themes. Will be sad to see them go

Awesome. Good to see Rockstar back to its spiritual home. For a wee city Dundee does good quite proud to say.

@710King yep seems like they are brute forcing it and calling it a day.

Disappointing.

@jiricek9 ahh that’s a bit ridiculous. I think I’ll not push any more then in that case.

Shame as it seems like a really good game now.

I want to give it a go especially since you can play to level 40 or 60 but SE won't let me because I played the demo when the original game came out and my psn is linked to it. Tried getting SE to unlink my psn to create a new account and they refuse.

Absolutely ridiculous.

Even if Sony don’t sell them you’ll absolutely get 3rd parties do them. Either way I’ll be getting a black one.

@twenty90seven they done a PS4 and psvr tear down back when.

@710King exactly the point I was making. There's no way it's not finalised with some potential day 1 polish to add.

For those saying it's not finalised yet as in there's gonna be huge features missing within the next 30 days I very much doubt that.

Sure there might be bugs here and there to iron out or small features to come in a 1.1 update however these consoles (that have already been manufactured anyway) will already be boxed ready for shipping with the 1.0 firmware on them.

I suspect there's no big blow out of information simply because there's not a huge amount to shout out about..share recordings at a higher res or FPS.. maybe but that's probably going to be about it.

The share features on the PS4 are already decent.. there's not much more you can do with it.

Really curious to see how it runs on ps4 and Xbox one...especially on the base units. You have to imagine there's a whole host of sacrifices needed to make it run.

I can understand why Japanese gamers would be annoyed.

In essence Nintendo and Sony consoles are Japanese based and for Nintendo they've always kept the same mapping.. Why in the first place did Sony decide to go with X to accept in the west?

Why not circle to keep all regions in line I stead of forcing X on the eastern market all these years later.

@TheFrenchiestFry I'd say that's par for the course to be honest.

I'm a little surprised Sony aren't putting it in western hands since the move of their HQ but let's be honest..were ms ever even going to attempt to push it in the east where it doesn't stand a chance.

Absolute farce of a game. I'm glad I gave up on FIFA years ago.

Can't wait to see Tyson Fury spark AJ.

I'm not buying it again within a few months for an upgrade to the PS4 version.

From a pr perspective Sony have been an utter shambles this time going so far as Microsoft having pops about smart delivery showing how the tables have turned.

Sony have been slow, not very consumer friendly re their Spiderman fiasco and we believe in gens BS and have been expecting blind faith from consumers to keep things chugging along whereas Microsoft have been largely upfront, consumer friendly with gamepass, next gen free upgrades and have seem agile.

Yes people will scoff at mentioning Jim Ryan but comparing Andrew House' leadership compared to how the organisation is behaving now is night and day.

For those saying people are being entitled for expecting or atleast hoping for a free upgrade then all I can say is this. If Microsoft, cdpr and other devs are giving updates to their titles then a little goodwill from Sony would be nice.

Package and lock the upgrade in with Miles Morales for free. Stick a one time code in the box so that if you have Spiderman ps4 then you get a free upgrade. That'll maybe pull in people who wouldn't have been interested in Miles' story and creates some good press with it.

For those defending Sony effectively charging 20 quid extra keep in mind that the upgraded content in the Spiderman game is going to be more or less the same content that's in Miles Morales.. taking out the story and cutscenes of course. It's the same city, traffic and NPC's for the most part. So the hard work being described is mostly content they've already created and used for Miles.

The extra effort that is being defended is largely copy and paste work from what's in Miles Morales. It's ridiculous imo that they are trying to slap a £20 price tag on it.

@Loftimus it's not really when cdpr are updating the Witcher for free and let's be honest here..

A huge amount of assets in miles Morales will be reused Spiderman assets and vice versa. I'd happily pay for miles Morales with the provisio I don't need to pay to get Spiderman updated if they're planning on giving it away. Would have saved themselves aggro by just completely ignoring Spiderman.

Stingy springs to mind. This could easily be a free add-on with the Miles Morales edition.

Kinda put me off buying it miles Morales all together now.

And then you see CDPR giving a free next gen update for the Witcher 3.

Arrogant Sony is back and it's not a nice look.

Absolute scumbag of a company.

As sad as it would be to see folk lose their job I'll be happy once that shop is gone.

Tbf for those of us that didn't have a Nintendo console till the switch 3d all stars is a great addition. Especially Galaxy.

Crappy business practices aside I'm very happy with it.

Is it just me or does Jim Ryan seem like a complete BS artist? Nearly everything generally that comes out of his mouth is either misleading or patently bull.

Genuinely feel that with him at the helm the arrogant Sony is back.

Players should get a refund for that for whoever bought it. That's horrific.

The one worrying thing is saying that they want to make games more persistent. Hopefully they don't go down the "live service" route.

Disappointed by this news. It means it'll be built to the lowest common denominator ie the PS4 vanilla.

Played it for a few hours and had fun but uninstalled it now.

I dont get how people can play it day after day and still have fun. Good on them I suppose.

Anywhere up to £600. It's a system that is going to last 6 years.. mugs pay 1000 for a phone every 2 years.

Value for money.

Said it before a few weeks ago on here and I'll say it again.

It's likely to launch in NA first meeting their "holidays" target then rest everywhere else.

PS3 sure I can understand BC not being feasible due to the architecture.. PS1 and PS2?

No great reason imo.. unless its to lock security down with potential exploits being possible via the emulation.

Am I up in arms about it..no but it would have been pretty sweet.

Ahh well.

I'll take the 60fps option.

Although I hope it'll be a resolution bump via supersampling or similar rather than a proper graphics and resolution downgrade.

WiFi ax should be good..with 75% less latency than 5ac

Might be a little while before we see ISP's punting out ax router though unless you buy outright.

Good to see the forward thinking though.

Can safely say that's the end of the big feature updates.

I would have agreed a few years ago to an extent, GTA online was beginning to show what would end up happening on a large scale. So now no way...no chance and I'm appalled you think overall GaaS is a good thing.

GaaS are largely now..note largely not completely... a predatory way to entice money out of customers.

GaaS worked relatively ok for dlc. Keeping in mind publishers then even kept back content locked on the disc day1 which then was clear as hell as predatory but that's largely forgotten.

Fast forward to modern times and developers are removing content from games then forcing players to cough up more money to get new content see: Destiny.

The only decent GaaS and keeping in mind that definition has largely been far removed from its original meaning is from games like the Witcher 3 which provide clear brand new content.

Attempting to pigeon hole both DLC like that and stuff like Fortnite skins is ridiculous and shows an elementary level understanding of modern GaaS.

Yes devs should be paid for their work but the reason devs and publishers went down this route isn't to make better games for you and me. It's to make easier money.

It's all about keeping you hooked, keeping stuff just slightly out of reach with that tempting few quid to get that item or it's in its simplest, most blatant form gambling mechanics which is nothing short of predatory and downright morally wrong.