A round of Japanese media and influencers were invited to a special PlayStation 5 hands-on event recently, where they finally had the opportunity to play Sony’s next-gen console. Brand new gameplay footage of Astro’s Playroom, Godfall, and others was uploaded to the web – but it didn’t scratch the itch of many, who were hoping to see a glimpse of the system’s user interface.
Unfortunately, a preview published by Dengeki Online reveals that the platform holder kept that feature under wraps, as it didn’t allow attendees to play around in the device’s menus. It also blocked the Create button from being used, so we don’t know what features that will bring to the table either. Just 38 days to go, folks.
From previous patents and interviews, we know that the PS5 will likely include an Alexa-style support system, while its uber-fast SSD will allow you to jump to specific parts of a game – rather than wait for its main menu to load. Furthermore, it sounds like this will be a much more social console than past PlayStations – let’s hope more is revealed soon.
[source dengekionline.com]
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It’s a bit silly isn’t it. It’s hardly going to spoil some incredible reveal and they don’t exactly need yet another reason to be laughed at.
Why the secrecy? Some cool features which the competition will want to copy? Or is it still a buggy mess?
I am not sure what Sony's goal is here. If it is hype building, I'm starting to think that they are doing the opposite.
My guess is it isn't finalized yet but woof, come on, they keep making all these baffling decisions. I just want to know if the stupid TV menu is gone because I haaaaaaate it.
I mean what's the deal with that, it's just an user interface and not the ending of a story-heavy game. They should just show it to us
I imagine they're bringing some cool new features with the UI and thus it's part of their marketing campaign.
I'm sure we'll see it soon.
Plot twist: there is no UI, like the old days. Pop in a disc and go! You bought the digital PS5? Have fun with your paperweight!
I think it’s pretty clear that either 1) the user interface has not been finalised yet, or 2) Sony have something special and are planning a big reveal with features like trophy tracking etc.
To be honest, it’s more likely the former.
Maybe, just maybe, the UI isn't quite done yet and Sony don't want to have people see the bugs or incomplete features and talk **** about it.
Which would be rather unfortunate since we are, as @get2sammyb states, 38 days away from launch!
@thefourfoldroot I'm sure they'll be working on it until the last possible second, but I'm confident it's more the latter and they want to do a big blowout for the major new features they're adding.
@get2sammyb
We can only hope. It’s not a massive deal for me but, in my experience, a company releasing a new product in a difficult market will be happy to boast about features as long as they don’t think the competition can copy them. MS have already revealed their interface, so...I see no reason to hold back other than it’s not finished.
We shall see in due time.
@get2sammyb now I'm just imagining the size of the day one system update
Day one UI update incoming...
@SuperSaeko One brand new feature that Sony are showing off is called wishful thinking
They will be working on a stability patch to end all stability patches.
At this point I think its clear Sony are planning another PS5 showcase before launch, so much of the console is still unknown plus games like Destruction All Stars have barely been shown off
Can't wait to see the ui, but in the end, I just want standard features like folder, hibernate, and maybe the ability to arrange games. The most important things is games, especially next-gen games like demons souls
@nessisonett Ps5 already sold out, the lauch games seems super great (demons souls for the hardcore, spider-man mm for most gamers, sackboy for the kids), I don't think anybody laughed at sony now lol.
If XBOX had games then sony would be in big trouble right now. Really have no regard for they're consumers!
@get2sammyb I'm confused how this would help in a marketing campaign. They've already sold their available stock. Doesn't make much sense to hold back information that will be given to users before more people can buy. Nothing they do now will get people to buy a product that isn't available.
Yh it's a real shame they focused on something as really unimportant like new games!
@wiiware There’s massive amounts of ill-will towards Sony. Some of it justified, some of it not. PS5 might have sold out but FIFA and Madden sell boatloads every year, it’s not an indicator of quality.
I think its getting suspicious. These consoles getting produced right now so the UI is finished. I really dont like this. If they dont have anything to hide why would they lock it away.
@Jamboro Well they have Game Pass and recently went on a Buying Spree of studios, so XBOX might have a lot of Exclusives by the middle of the generation, or even the beginning, so they might start hurting Sony soon
Why are they doing this? They should have announced all of this at the LAST event, or at least surprise drop the announcement on Twitter and YouTube like Xbox.
@nessisonett Some of the negative one is justified, like $70 price when the world situations is like this (and their competitor has gamepass), or we have to buy spidey again rather than getting a free patch, but not showing the ui isn't a negative things I think.
Sony will shows it when it's ready, I just think the ui is just not done yet.
@HotGoomba I think it's good if xbox has good exclusive, I rather have 2 competing console with both having great exclusive rather than this gen where's sony has multiple games of the year and 10M selling games and microsoft has none of those, (nintendo is not competing directly with sony in home console).
It could be a bit of both, UI having some amazing new features and it not being quite ready yet. Could be another reason they are air freighting the goods in so that they can flash the OS on at the latest possible moment!
If they are working like most software projects these days then they will be seeing what can be finished in time and then pushing everything that can't for a later release. Those features might not make or break the release as it's mainly the hardcore bunch that are pre-ordering but if they can get them finished then all the better for their marketing.
Expecting a big blowout of all of the UI and system features in the next few weeks in that case.
I have no idea what it's like to coordinate a console launch, let alone one during a pandemic. But I can imagine people would have been disappointed if this was how the UI was revealed for the first time.
@nessisonett yeah, I see a few people here or there making a lot of noise about “ill will” or stuff like that but it always seems to be simply a few people making lots of noise trying to will their opinion into popularity.
What I see is ps5’s selling out as soon as they become available and an absolutely amazing launch lineup (and first year) of games.
In short, just like all the internet outrage it’s simply a few people making lots of noise.
I’m actually going to be simply blocking all of these bellends going forward to avoid having to see this tripe that’s put forth by the same people all the time.
First few added to the list; hot goomba, yourself and medic_alert. No need to respond as all three are already on the list.
This site is about to get much less negative for me while reading through the comments.
Sony really have gone backwards and are back to the big headed company that released the PS3. Completely different to the release of the PS4. Unfortunately they've lost me for a few years, will maybe pick one up on sale or get the mid gen refresh. By then it'll be out of the launch "window" and there'll be some exclusives to play.
Sony sounds confident that PS5 UI is something special to hold its announcement for so long.
@RedShirtRod The units are almost certainly already produced too at this point, meaning the OS is installed already. Don't listen to damage control.
I fully expect them to have a big blowout soon going over all of this stuff. Can't wait!
I hate to sound like an entitled whinger... But when pre-orders are open for the pricetag of £450, it's not unreasonable to ask and inquire as to exactly what it is we're buying! I don't want mysterious secrets and surprises when I'm spending close to half a grand on a console I intend to use for several years. Just because Microsoft are revealing information doesn't mean Sony have to do the complete opposite.
@Nexozi
LMAO! How arrogant of a company to not give you news as quickly as you want!
@Menchi
You know software / firmware can (and constantly is) updated via this thing called the internet right?
@Menchi I have no doubt the OS is done. Not being a software engineer I assume they could always use the PS4 version if they really need to.
It's the idea that Sony is going to create another showcase/marketing event before the launch that I'm not buying. They've already sold their product. Convincing more people to buy a product that you don't have is a terrible business strategy. So I'm not sure why Sony is holding back information. Makes zero sense.
@get2sammyb That sounds about right; Sony seem pretty traditional so they probably have a specific showcase planned and they’re sticking to that. Maybe they think that the best way to counteract the negative press they’ve had is to do a big blowout of cool reveals, rather than a trickle of information?
I'm pretty sure they are busy copying Microsoft the same way they were waiting for Microsoft to announce their price before deciding on the PS5 price (which coincidentally is the exact same price!).
Sony is behaving like a Chinese knock-off manufacturing company
Terrible! Def thinking about cancelling my preorder since they haven't showed us the UI, they've only showed us games and that's just unacceptable!
@JapaneseSonic exactly; their approach is “it’s all about the games” and when you realize this it all makes sense.
I know it’s shocking to some people but a new generation of game consoles should be all about THE NEW GAMES in my opinion.
Plenty of time still to go over UI, features and all that still.
Their approach seems to be working well so far too, you simply cannot find PS5 preorders at all after like 10 minutes of preorders opening up each round.
Meanwhile in some markets the Xbox Series S is STILL available for preorder (could’ve changed by now but the fact remains that in some places it was available for a long time), and they’re showing the things that the few people are complaining needs to be shown. The general public seems to disagree about what NEEDS to be shown.
'Good things come to those who wait' and 'Patience is a virtue' is how I'm seeing this. This seems rare by reading the comments on here and other social media platforms.
It makes me think that it's because they are not yet finished. The dev consoles were said to be using ps4's UI mix like 6 months ago, and the Russian leaked pics reminded me of the same UI. So my guess, Sony having some crunch time racing the clock.
Keep the faith people your going to be surprised!
As much as I want to see the UI and stuff, I could understand it if we were at least getting more info on other stuff, but it's a month away from launch and it all just seems so...quiet. Ah well, it'll happen eventually I guess.
We're like 5 weeks away and still not seen everything yet? We must be getting a presentation soon from SONY???
For those saying it's not finalised yet as in there's gonna be huge features missing within the next 30 days I very much doubt that.
Sure there might be bugs here and there to iron out or small features to come in a 1.1 update however these consoles (that have already been manufactured anyway) will already be boxed ready for shipping with the 1.0 firmware on them.
I suspect there's no big blow out of information simply because there's not a huge amount to shout out about..share recordings at a higher res or FPS.. maybe but that's probably going to be about it.
The share features on the PS4 are already decent.. there's not much more you can do with it.
Ssshhhhh it’s a secret, you’ll find out what the UI is like and how to use it and it’s functions when you buy it... Yeah good job Sony!...
@thefourfoldroot Series X UI is pretty much copypaste XB1 UI so it's not surprising it got revealed so early in comparison to the PS5 UI.
Not even reading the comments but I'm guessing wah wah wah!
@MarcG420 Add me too to your virtual safe haven (I hate the word safe space 🤮). Also why are you announcing it? No one cares, just do it and move on. The crying about negative comments has gotten just as annoying as negative comments 😒 just block and move on✌️
As for the UI I'm guessing there's some really big feature Sony doesn't want people to see yet, they have made the expectations really high so if they don't deliver they will get more negative press.
It's not a massive deal to see the UI, but not revealing it is making it a massive deal. Hopefully means there will be another showcase this month!
@thefourfoldroot You missed the point entirely. Sammy is implying the OS isn't even finished and on the console at all.
@MS7000 They promised a revolutionary UI last year and we haven't heard anything about it sense. The best place for them to show it off would have been the showcase before pre-orders went live. Now we are 5 weeks from launch and they aren't even showing people who have preview consoles. Something is not right here. Either Sony actually thinks their UI will be the most revolutionary thing about their new console or there are issues with it they are still working out.
@Menchi So what are all these PS5's that have been and are being manufactured getting loaded with? Some barebones kernel with no actual operating system? You're suggesting the PS5 will have a day one OS install of several hundred gigabytes over the internet that an end user will have to do with no UI?
@710King exactly the point I was making. There's no way it's not finalised with some potential day 1 polish to add.
@Juanalf well, seeing as you’re another one that shouts negativity to the rooftops quite often I’m happy to oblige your request.
It has less to do with a “safe place” and more to do with just having enough of the negativity from those who’s sole purpose is to ***** post all the time.
Seriously, why frequent a PlayStation centric site when all you do is post negativity about them? You don’t see me going to the Xbox sister site doing so do you?
What do you think the odds are that I could go over there and find all 5 of the people on my block list not being nearly as negative on the Xbox centric sister site?
It’s pathetic.
@710King No, that's what the writer is suggesting. I'm saying the basic OS is finished and on the console.
@nessisonett Every PS5 news I see your comment, saying words like "Silly" , or trash ..... so just another random Xbox fan that loves the console war..... it is so depressive and useless, please do us a favor, stop commenting useless stuff , if you like Xbox good to you, but stay in the Xbox pages/news ....... kids these days ...
@amarkness Honestly the opposite. I’ve never owned an Xbox but I’ve owned several Playstation consoles. If I see something that’s stupid, I’ll call it out. If I see something exciting, I’ll express my interest. People like you only see things in binaries, where either somebody is a true fan or they’re an Xbox lover. Interesting to say I ‘love the console war’ while the worst insult you can come up with is ‘random Xbox fan’.
@nessisonett I see, so you have owned many Playstation consoles .... so now what you have ? of course you do not need to say, but just wondering you are so pissed with Sony doing mystery with everything maybe you're upset because you lost the PS5 pre-order and now you are finding something to complain, because seriously can you show me please one positive reply that you did regarding PS5 ? .... or I am totally wrong, and you have a PC and is now upset because you should have bought a console .... who knows .... or better who cares right ? ... it is your life , so apologies was just wondering why people these days like to spread the evil in words, just to make their point instead of keeping it to them and make the "world" (internet) more peaceful
@amarkness I own every PS console and a PS Vita, GameCube, Wii, Wii U, 3DS, Switch and PC. I play games on whatever console they are available on, no console is better than any other. I didn’t even try to pre-order PS5 because it’s bloody expensive and I just don’t think Sony have convinced me yet. If you think expressing an opinion that Sony’s strategy is hugely woeful is ‘spreading evil’, you should probably look at other websites or possibly out your window for a true picture of what ‘evil’ looks like.
And RE whatever interest you have in my ‘positivity’ regarding PS5, I’m looking forward to Gran Turismo 7, Demon’s Souls and Miles Morales. Pretty sure I’ve expressed that on here.
@nessisonett wow, I respect your collection of consoles. Agree with you , when we look outside the window we see the true evil .... that is very bad . Just ignore me, maybe a bad day , apologies and thank you for being polite. Have a great day ahead and stay safe.
Might be worth getting some perspective here folks: https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/blog.playstation.com/2013/11/14/first-look-ps4s-new-ui-revealed/amp/
@710King PS4 UI was only shown in detail last minute
@Tacktful didn’t you know?! This is unacceptable according to some. It means the console is feature incomplete or they have something to hide. /Sarcasm
Seriously though I do look forward to seeing the UI, all will be revealed in due time. I’d guess it’ll still be a couple of weeks before we get to see it but I’m confident it will be excellent.
@thefourfoldroot Oh yea, how shocking and arrogant wanting to know things about a product before buying it. That's crazy, I guess people should just hand out money to companies and hope something they want gets delivered.
@Nexozi you know there’s a simple solution; if you’re not sure until you get more information simply don’t preorder it/buy it until you know the information you’re after.
@Nexozi
You mean important things like it’s technical specs? The controller features? Games you can play on it? Whether it plays previous gen games?...all those things they’ve told you?
Because if you’re saying that they are arrogant and lost you because you don’t know what the UI looks like yet, I call bu***hit mate.
@Tacktful Uh nope, not sure where you pulled that from. The PS4's OS and UI were shown off over the summer of 2013 after the PS4's showcase at E3. It was heavily detailed at Gamescom 2013, over 3 months before launch. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EaPoLJyDZmM
@Octane If this could be an option for the disc version, I would be a very happy gamer. I don't want any social features, I have 100 other devices to play Netflix on (and they generally do better!), I just want to have a game machine.
@MarcG420 It's the 1st Playstation I won't be getting on day 1. Also want to know what the noise of the console is like as well.
@thefourfoldroot It's not just that, it's all those things. When you add them all up it points to an arrogant company that feels they don't need to engage with their customers. The same way they where when going from PS2 to the PS3. They were like we can release anything and you'll all buy it. They took ages to tell people about everything. It's like they've taken a step back. Oh and that your game saves won't carry over to the PS5 versions.
@Nexozi
What do you mean “all those things” they are all things Sony has shown. So, seriously, what is it Sony didn’t show that you think makes them arrogant?
And MM allows saves from current gen to next generation, so I guess the worst you can say is Sony may have not made it easy and automatic.
@Nexozi the noise is reportedly not even audible while running games in an environment with an ambient temp of around 30 Celsius.
@MarcG420 That's great news. The PS4 Pro is killing me. 😂
@thefourfoldroot Spiderman doesn't, and I'm nearly sure it was reported on this site that most won't. In ur eyes Sony can do no wrong, so probably best just ending it here.
@Nexozi
Lol, of course they can, I’m no Sony fanboy, I dislike Sony more than any other gaming platform currently due to their insulting, quasi racist censorship policy.
I’m also not an idiot however. I know that saves don’t transfer from Spider-Man Remastered on PS4 to Spider-Man Remastered on PS5 for exactly the same reason you can’t get an upgrade from one to the other- there is no such game as Spider-Man Remastered on PS4. Doesn’t exist.
As to why other games don’t transfer saves, well, it’s probably too much trouble for them. Clearly it’s not a technical impossibility, just more difficult on PS5.
@thefourfoldroot They could very easily transfer the game saves. From Spiderman on the PS4 to spiderman in the PS5. Just because they put remaster in the title doesn't mean it can't access the same info as the old version. I guess Microsoft has spoilt me in this regard since the upgraded series X versions will let you keep your game saves.
@Nexozi
Ah, bragging on a competing company. Never mind, thought this was a serious conversation with a non biased person.
37, is it, days until launch and they've banned anyone even seeing the UI? And that's not raising alarms for a lot of people?
I can't help but feel that anyone waiting for all these amazing and exotic innovative features they'll suddenly start marketing after launch are going to be about as disappointed as everyone thinking Switch was going to be some kind of PS4 killer power console. If they had innovative features they'd have probably started advertising them running up to launch.
It' can't be a total blank slate, I mean the consoles are already made and boxed, so if the OS isn't done yet, it has to have something on-board even if it's just to run the day 1 patch and get the real OS. But other than hiding that the UI isn't complete as-is, there's no actual purpose to hiding a UI beyond that it doesn't exist or doesn't work well yet. And if they're actually not done the UI until near launch, there's something wrong with that. Think of boxed PS5 as Internet Explorer. It only exists so you can download a better browser/OS.
Also they haven't sold out of inventory. They've sold out of preorder allocated inventory. There will be shelf-available inventory on launch day (that will also sell out in minutes), and the 11M launch window production number includes 1Q21, so we still don't know how many units the launch window included compared to what will be available through Feb.
@thefourfoldroot I guess idiots can't comprehend having different devices. I have a one X and PS4 pro and a gaming PC. Sorry that I'm in a position to compare them all. (Not really) I've had every Playstation, but also every Xbox at launch.
@Nexozi
Sure, lol.
@thefourfoldroot poor baby
@Nexozi
Hardly, I’m a 37yo man feeling his age when having to deal with what passes for reasoned criticism online.
Some advice as you grow up and have to deal with people who may hold differing opinions to yourself: insults don’t strengthen your argument, only make it look weak.
It also pays to remember that your history online is available to all. For example, reading through just the first page of your comments was enough for me to confirm your bias, which goes towards invalidating your claimed impartiality.
@thefourfoldroot Well u have a year on me. 😂 Trying to say I resorted to insulting you first. Check back you called me an idiot first. You took offense to me saying Sony was arrogant and venting my disappointment in the way the company was treating its customers. Then you said "I dislike Sony more than any other gaming platform currently due to their insulting, quasi racist censorship policy." Then when I mentioned what their competition was doing regarding backwards compatability you accuse me of being biased. Remember when you point the finger at someone there are 3 pointing back at you.
@Nexozi
Ah, ok, I didn’t call you an idiot, I said I wasn’t an idiot and so could see the reason. I agree that implies you are an idiot for not seeing it. That wasn’t intended, I apologise
I didn’t take offence at criticism of Sony, lol. I do however see your clear bias. It’s not hard when seeing the tenor of your replies reading back.
Saying silly things like “Sony believes lies and spreads lies” is just not the reasoned argument if an informed gamer, but the ramblings of a fanboy. As is bringing the supposed superiority of Xbox into a response for no apparent reason.
It really brings into doubt your claim that you had a PS4 Pro but “ The noise of my PS4 Pro made me get rid of it and go fully over to the box one X.”
Mmmh...
Whatever, I don’t really care, I just see a million supposedly impartial fanboys online. If you aren’t one, great, one less fool in the world.
Despite the fact they're getting slated (rightly so for the most part), I think they're very much at the stage where they're just like "f|_|ck it, no more info before release" - they have already sold out of all the pre-orders EVERYWHERE, they're literally unable to sell anymore at this point. They don't need to do anything else as the diehards will have already pulled the trigger.
@thefourfoldroot Have you been drinking? You do know Spiderman on the PS4 and PS5 are the same game. They've called it a remaster on the PS5 as they've made it look better and changed the models. There is no reason the save couldn't be carried over. Where did I say Sony believes lies and are spreading lies? What lies do Sony believe? I still have my PS4 pro, I still play it. I can complain about the noise of it, most people that have one do. Ghost of Tsushima is in my view the best game of this generation. Though you'll probably say I'm wrong there as well. I'd be more than happy to send you a pic of my setup with the consoles and external HDDs beside each other.
@Nexozi
You said Sony said lies and spread lies on Sun 20th September on the Horizon sequel article, and that you’d got rid of your Pro on Sun 16th Feb on the PS5 cooling system piece. It’s right there in your history.
As I said, keep things straight when post history is available otherwise you get called out.
Then again, maybe you’d been drinking, lol.
Don’t like Ghost myself. I’m more of a JRPG guy
@thefourfoldroot I was drunk on that Sunday and had been complaining to a friend about it and they offered to buy it. I didn't actually sell it. Though if I had of I could still complain about it. See that the joys of having owned something, you can still have an option on it as you've experienced it. I still stand by them saying lies about how each generation is a new generation. Even though new PS5 games will still be released on PS4. Oh man you have issues, going back through my post history to try and make yourself not look as bad as you're coming across. 😂 😂
@Nexozi
No, I looked at one page just to see if it was worth discussing with you, and decided not. I don’t care for your history. I could argue against your opinion of Sony promising to abandon cross gen games but I don’t see a point discussing things with you. Have a good evening.
@thefourfoldroot 😂😂😂😂 All the best, do me a favour and hit that ignore button. I'll be doing the same to you. You claim to not be biased but you are. You're also a bit of a creep stalker.
five more weeks, I hope everyone here is getting their Ps5 day one. ^-^
@NEStalgia At best there's special features that they're waiting to show off, at worst it's a Wii U type situation where the OS is only partially present and the system gets gigantic system updates over the launch window.
@Grumblevolcano I think the latter is pretty much a given. Not just WiiU. PS4 and X1 did that too. I've just never seen a company hide the UI so much for that reason. It must be little more than a loader for the update right now.
@NEStalgia Wii U shows that missing OS can be massive like look at 2.0.0 (this is all content that needed a system update to get):
Ability to create a Nintendo Network ID and link it
Miiverse
Eshop
Internet Browser
Friends List
Wii U Chat
Notifications List
Download Management
Wii System Transfer
The ability to download updates for games
The ability to use an external hard drive
https://en-americas-support.nintendo.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/1436/~/system-menu-update-history#v200
@Grumblevolcano Yeah. I mean, WiiU it was so obvious because so much core functionality was simply not there, though, it was at least a functional, usable OS without it, assuming you weren't using digital purchases and the like.
PS4 was less visible, but that launch OS was pretty barren. One of the things I remember most was the "Rest" mode - or suspend state. I was super hyped about that at the Feb '13 reveal event. Then it launched and they said it wasn't there yet in Nov '13 and they said they were working on it. And then like a year or so later they finally released it. How does one of your keynote features from Feb'13 end up not existing until late 2014/early 2015? Even WiiU beat that pace...
XBox meanwhile was still adding most of the features that make the UI great as of summer 2018. It was a mess until then. But at least they didn't reinvent the wheel with Series and it's the same UI with all the updates carrying over. I just hope they don't reinvent the dashboard like they did with 360 where it would go from great, to bad, to worse, each iteration (now with ads!)
You would think with PS5, since they've spent 2 years preparing for it and winding down PS4, they'd have fleshed out the OS by now. I'm not sure how it could have ended up being a last minute rush job squeezed between an E3 replacement reveal and a November launch where 36 days out it's not even ready to show anyone.... How planning goes that badly, I don't know. I also don't know how, if the UI is in a bad shape that can't be shown, how they're going to launch it. The OS is already boxed on the machines and burned on the flash. It has to be functional. It has to be able to connect online and get the patch.
What I'm wondering is if this will be like the X1 day one scenario where going online to get the patch is a mandatory part of initial setup and it can't be used otherwise. Maybe the OS on the flash in the box is little more than a setup wizard that downloads the rest of the OS so you never get into the menus before the patch (and maybe what the youtubers got has more or less the devkit UI on it which doesn't represent the final product, and thus why it can't be shown?)
It's weird. "Special features they can't show" just seems too far fetched. It's a menu. Can't really do that much magical with it.
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