@Mustoe That's good that you are sticking to your principles but the online requirement was needed as part of the deal for the FIA stuff if you believe what was behind the reasoning and you are missing out on a good GT game because of something that has little effect in reality.
Its not ideal if you are ever without internet but it is what it is.
But all the power to you for sticking to your guns.
Rumour has it that it'll be circuit gille villeneuve being added. It's been discussed as a "leak" for months now so it'd make sense to announce it in Montreal.
Back in the day it (for PC anyway) it was games like Unreal Tournament and Quake 3, which were live service titles before that buzzword became a thing due to the modding community releasing maps and mods regularly.
Point being, while Fortnite its not for me (its a pretty good game tbf, well the no build side is anyway), if kids are enjoying these games then what's the problem?
There's always going to be a market for big SP games.
Online games have always been a time sink due to their competitive nature one way or another so its no surprise to see them sitting tall for engagement.
If you went back 15-20 year when I was mostly on PC my highest engagement games would have been:
UT/UT2k4
SA:MP or whatever it was called back then (The unofficial precursor for GTA: Online)
PES Launcher to play PES games in a competitive league
CoD2
All multiplayer, live service games before when the work was done by the modders rather than devs .
The only reason its such a big thing on console since PS4 is because the online services were basic back then and developers didn't bother/didn't think they'd get away with selling/drip feeding content every month or two.
It was always on the cards when you think about it, it just took the right technology to allow it for console gaming.
Single player games arent going anywhere unless EVERYONE stops buying them.
First, they get bought out from MS then they manage to buy themselves back to get creative freedom then Sony buy them.
It strikes me as a leadership that doesn't know what it wants and incredibly, Sony seemingly let Bungie direct their live service drive based on their work with Destiny.
Great game but GoW 2018 or whatever it was surpasses it imo. Sure, it's bigger and there's more to it but it didn't bring the same joy the first brought and felt like a bit of a slog at times. I don't recall that same feeling with 2018 was a much tighter experience.
PS4 is creaking as it is and for those that mention switch 2 is rumoured so will make it to PS4. Difference being switch 2 will have DLSS to upscale images using AI.
PS4 doesn't have that luxury atleast not on a hardware level.
@Fight_Teza_Fight couldn't agree more. All they do is annoy regular people and not the decision makers.
I'd get behind them more but when you see them holding up ambulances etc it's rather satisfying watching someone drag them rather vigorously off the road.
@DeathlySW gotta remember the attackers only need to find one way in. The people being attacked need to secure against every possibility and protect against it. It's not as easy as it sounds.
@iDreamwalker 60 doesn't have the same value as 20 year ago you are correct however, with scale the profit margin increases overall with more subscribers.
Think why supermarkets can outprice corner shops or car companies can drop or keep prices low when they are buying and selling in bulk.
The problem with tech companies is they want the same profit margin per user if they have 1m subscribers or 100m.
They've spent the last decade digitising their marketplace so they can start gouging in to your wallet.
They want all the money. All the time and it's only going to get worse.
Honestly, its not even "live service" games that are like that.
A large proportion of games these days are unfinished on release thanks to digital marketplaces largely replacing dvd/blu ray.
Just wait till subscriptions are the dominant way of getting games. You'll get titles that are broken in to chapters and released based on performance KPI's being met. Doesnt meet consumer engagement? Then chapter 1-3 is all you'll get and the rest is shelved.
@The_ghostmen The money side of it really isn't that bad. Completely optional and there's no real need to spend anything.
The only problem is the lack of actual races for certain tracks.
Some tracks have 3 or 4 races when you can easily do much more expansive track/car combos so can be a bit of a big grind for cash if you want to keep it fresh outside of the weekly time trials which are usually easy enough to get £1m coins.
@KilloWertz " but it was a great game once the PS5 version came out a year later"
Really?! It was more stable than the ps4 pro release i'll give you that, but still crashed multiple times through my PS5 playthrough in November 2022 nearly 8 months after the PS5 release. Its inexcusable to crash that often that late after release.
And that's just the quality control side. That's before we even start with the whole pointless story starting paths that really do very little.
Its a hodgepodge of ideas built on a cool visual presentation. I really wanted to like it but its by far one of the most disappointing games in a while. The soundtrack is good, its visually pleasing but the story is fairly poor after the first few hours, the cars handle like crap and the bugs are far too prevalent for a AAA game)
Its very reminiscent of most GTA clones. (to clarify im not saying its a GTA clone before anyone jumps on that) They do some cool things but ultimately lack in most important ones.
Those of you moaning about MM not making a game catered to the masses are the opposite reason why Sony are in the position they are today.
Dreams has likely inspired young game developers in the same way Net Yaroze did back on PS1.
Stifling creativity isn't the way to push this medium forward and I'm glad MM and Sony went down the route. My only gripe is that Sony didn't stick it on ps plus at the earliest opportunity.
Dreams was a gamble, and they've clearly had some decent ideas given Epic is about to do similar within Fortnite.
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Re: Huge PlayStation Black Friday Sales Begin 22nd November
@Darude84 Good find.
I've been waiting to get Silent Hill 2 and was going to pull the trigger if it wasnt on Black Friday.
I guess now's the time.
Re: 16 PS5, PS4 Games Set to Leave PS Plus Extra, Premium Next Month
Currently playing Judgement at the moment (already have it on disk but cant be bothered fishing it out) so I guess I need to get a move on.
Re: Australia's Planned Social Media Ban to Include PSN
@khyal Rather than being a news piece, this story is an opinion piece presented as facts. Some pretty biased language throughout. Very, very poor.
Wish I could give this article a thumbs down just for that.
Re: Poll: One Year Later, How Would You Rate Marvel's Spider-Man 2 on PS5?
It was good, well put together but it didn't grip me as much as SM
Gameplay etc was really good again but the story was a bit underwhelming.
Re: The Novelty of PlayStation's PC Ports Does Appear to Be Dampening
Maybe it's not the burnout of ps ports.
It's maybe the sequels mentioned are just more of the same and have lost the wow and pull factor the originals had.
I personally felt both Ragnarok and HFW were both excellent sequels but they just lacked the charm of the first titles.
Bear way to put it was that they felt like ubisoft games. Full of padding.
Both were a slog end game.
Re: Astro Bot PS5 Fans Wonder Where All the Square Enix Characters Are
Cheers for the spoilers lads. Much appreciated.
Re: Days Gone Director Roasts 'Small Game' Astro Bot PS5 for Deacon St John Cameo
The "small game" that'll probably be a bigger success than his? Salty much?
Re: Next Gran Turismo 7 PS5, PS4 Update Could Be a Big One
@Mustoe That's good that you are sticking to your principles but the online requirement was needed as part of the deal for the FIA stuff if you believe what was behind the reasoning and you are missing out on a good GT game because of something that has little effect in reality.
Its not ideal if you are ever without internet but it is what it is.
But all the power to you for sticking to your guns.
Re: Next Gran Turismo 7 PS5, PS4 Update Could Be a Big One
@TheDaddyOtaku @Mustoe you realise they released a patch for GTS so that online is is not a requirement now the servers are down.
The same will happen with gt7 I suspect.
Re: Next Gran Turismo 7 PS5, PS4 Update Could Be a Big One
Rumour has it that it'll be circuit gille villeneuve being added. It's been discussed as a "leak" for months now so it'd make sense to announce it in Montreal.
Re: Poll: How Much Do You Care About 60fps on PS5?
Target 60 but not essential for some games.
Some slower paced games play perfectly fine at 30. Racing games and shooters HAVE to be 60.
Oddly enough FF7 Rebirth, for a fast paced game plays brilliantly at 30. So much so that I've sacrificed the framerate for the higher res.
Re: Older Live Service Titles Take Up Over 60% of Overall Playtime, Report Says
Back in the day it (for PC anyway) it was games like Unreal Tournament and Quake 3, which were live service titles before that buzzword became a thing due to the modding community releasing maps and mods regularly.
Point being, while Fortnite its not for me (its a pretty good game tbf, well the no build side is anyway), if kids are enjoying these games then what's the problem?
There's always going to be a market for big SP games.
Online games have always been a time sink due to their competitive nature one way or another so its no surprise to see them sitting tall for engagement.
If you went back 15-20 year when I was mostly on PC my highest engagement games would have been:
UT/UT2k4
SA:MP or whatever it was called back then (The unofficial precursor for GTA: Online)
PES Launcher to play PES games in a competitive league
CoD2
All multiplayer, live service games before when the work was done by the modders rather than devs .
The only reason its such a big thing on console since PS4 is because the online services were basic back then and developers didn't bother/didn't think they'd get away with selling/drip feeding content every month or two.
It was always on the cards when you think about it, it just took the right technology to allow it for console gaming.
Single player games arent going anywhere unless EVERYONE stops buying them.
Re: Game Pass Woes for Indie Devs as Microsoft, Epic Funding Reportedly Drying Up
Didn't see all this coming. No siree.
Re: Unlock a Free 12 Months of PS Plus Premium with PlayStation's Visa Credit Card
Wonder what the interest rates are, will no doubt fleece a few suckers with this one.
Re: 13 New Games Land on PS Plus Extra, Premium Next Week
Cool boarders? Ohh awesome. I remember playing that on one of the demo discs back in the day. Will have to fire that up
Re: Warner Bros' Reaction to Suicide Squad Flop Will Make You Question Your Sanity
Instead of playing the long, steady and stable game they're just playing the "all in" cards and hoping for the best.
Let's see how that works out.
Re: Two Games Pretended to Be Helldivers 2 in Sneaky Steam Page Scam
@SacredPYRO It wont be a "studio" it'll be a one man band scam outfit.
Re: Final Fantasy 7 Rebirth's Graphical Problems Are Clear in Digital Foundry Report
Blurry mess is a stretch to say the least.
It's not perfect but it's hardly game breaking. Making it sound like cyberpunk OG release.
Re: Connecting Worlds, the Hideo Kojima Documentary, Is Out Now on Disney+
@Splat Something something Randy from South Park
Re: Final Fantasy 7 Rebirth Director Makes Final Plaintive Spoiler Plea to Content Creators
There's little point blocking capture direct on PS5 given lots use capture cards anyway.
Re: Site News: We Need You to Fill Out Our Reader Survey
Interesting question this one....
Switch 2 do you:
Own
Thinking of buying
Not interested
N/A
The whole PC hardware section is bobbins too, do you own a monitor or a mouse or a keyboard.
Intern on their first day left to create this survey?
Completed it either way but those questions made me do a double take.
Re: Lead Bungie Staff Fear 'Total Sony Takeover' After Layoffs, Delays
Bungie is a really weird company.
First, they get bought out from MS then they manage to buy themselves back to get creative freedom then Sony buy them.
It strikes me as a leadership that doesn't know what it wants and incredibly, Sony seemingly let Bungie direct their live service drive based on their work with Destiny.
Madness.
Re: Free Soccer Sim eFootball Finally Adds More Single Player, But It Ain't Master League
Sammy, you are from the UK. Please don't call it Soccer. It's Football.
Re: Sony's PlayStation Replay Patent Could Be a Genuine Game Changer
Surprised this patent has been approved given games often have a chapter select or boss fight replays anyway.
Re: Poll: Is God of War Ragnarok Still One of Sony's Best Games, One Year Later?
Great game but GoW 2018 or whatever it was surpasses it imo. Sure, it's bigger and there's more to it but it didn't bring the same joy the first brought and felt like a bit of a slog at times. I don't recall that same feeling with 2018 was a much tighter experience.
Same goes for HZD and Forbidden West fwiw.
Re: Sony Delays Six Live Service PS5 Games, But Company Remains Committed to Model
If Sony want a live service title to work its going to need to be multiplatform imo.
Re: Poll: Do You Think GTA 6 Will Release on PS4?
Nope, not a chance it launches on PS4/xbone.
PS4 is creaking as it is and for those that mention switch 2 is rumoured so will make it to PS4. Difference being switch 2 will have DLSS to upscale images using AI.
PS4 doesn't have that luxury atleast not on a hardware level.
It's not happening.
Re: Veteran PlayStation Exec Connie Booth Officially Exits the Firm
I'm staggered of the career she's had given her 2nd game was Rise Of The Robots. (even if it was just a thanks)
Would have had that as a career killer right there.
Re: Metal Gear Solid: Master Collection (PS5) - Three Classics in One Messy Bundle
Its odd that no one moaned about the Final Fantasy Pixel remasters having separate launchers for every game. What's the problem here?
Re: Tekken Tournament at UK's Biggest Gaming Expo Gets Interrupted by Just Stop Oil Protestors
@Fight_Teza_Fight couldn't agree more. All they do is annoy regular people and not the decision makers.
I'd get behind them more but when you see them holding up ambulances etc it's rather satisfying watching someone drag them rather vigorously off the road.
Re: Sony Has Allegedly Suffered a Huge Hack by Ransomware Group
@DeathlySW gotta remember the attackers only need to find one way in. The people being attacked need to secure against every possibility and protect against it. It's not as easy as it sounds.
Re: Secret PS5 Firmware Update Feature Spotlights Your Wall of Shame
GTA 5 - 1330 hours
Rocket league - 808 hours
GT7 - 523 hours
Re: Reminder: Last Chance to Stack PS Plus Subscriptions Before Price Rise
@iDreamwalker 60 doesn't have the same value as 20 year ago you are correct however, with scale the profit margin increases overall with more subscribers.
Think why supermarkets can outprice corner shops or car companies can drop or keep prices low when they are buying and selling in bulk.
The problem with tech companies is they want the same profit margin per user if they have 1m subscribers or 100m.
They've spent the last decade digitising their marketplace so they can start gouging in to your wallet.
They want all the money. All the time and it's only going to get worse.
Re: Saints Row May Be Free on PS Plus Next Month, But Its Developer Is No More
Never good to hear of folk losing their job. Hope they find something quickly.
Re: PS Plus Essential, Extra, Premium Price Increases Announced by Sony
COVID really gave Sony and Microsoft a taste for increased profit margins.
Chickens are coming home to roost now.
Re: PS Plus Essential, Extra, Premium Price Increases Announced by Sony
My PS Plus Premium sub is getting binned when its due for renewal then.
Back to the standard PS plus it is.
Re: Poll: Is 'Live Service' Becoming an Excuse to Release Unfinished Games?
Honestly, its not even "live service" games that are like that.
A large proportion of games these days are unfinished on release thanks to digital marketplaces largely replacing dvd/blu ray.
Just wait till subscriptions are the dominant way of getting games. You'll get titles that are broken in to chapters and released based on performance KPI's being met. Doesnt meet consumer engagement? Then chapter 1-3 is all you'll get and the rest is shelved.
Re: Quake 2 Remaster Out Now on PS5, PS4, Complete with New Levels, Motion Aiming, and More
Please Quake 3 next!!!
Might somehow prompt Epic to look at Unreal Tournament again.
Re: PS5 Game Cloud Streaming in Public Testing Right Now with PS Plus Premium Members
@sanderson72 I'm £40 a month for a gigabit line here.. I'd hardly say that's very expensive. Was around £30 for a FTTC line.
It's just waiting on availability that's the problem imo.
Either way. 40mb or 400mb. Latency is the killer for game streaming
Re: Red Dead Redemption Out on PS4 This Month, Not a Remaster
I'm sure I paid less for the original game. That's crazy.
Can see why they've not bothered with the Xbox version - back compat probably does a better job.
With the level of effort expected here its a £20 game at a push and I'm being generous with that.
Re: PS5, PS4's Superb Sim Racer Gran Turismo 7 Grows Again Next Month
@The_ghostmen The money side of it really isn't that bad. Completely optional and there's no real need to spend anything.
The only problem is the lack of actual races for certain tracks.
Some tracks have 3 or 4 races when you can easily do much more expansive track/car combos so can be a bit of a big grind for cash if you want to keep it fresh outside of the weekly time trials which are usually easy enough to get £1m coins.
Re: 100 Layoffs at CD Projekt RED Amid Organisational Changes
@KilloWertz " but it was a great game once the PS5 version came out a year later"
Really?! It was more stable than the ps4 pro release i'll give you that, but still crashed multiple times through my PS5 playthrough in November 2022 nearly 8 months after the PS5 release. Its inexcusable to crash that often that late after release.
And that's just the quality control side. That's before we even start with the whole pointless story starting paths that really do very little.
Its a hodgepodge of ideas built on a cool visual presentation. I really wanted to like it but its by far one of the most disappointing games in a while. The soundtrack is good, its visually pleasing but the story is fairly poor after the first few hours, the cars handle like crap and the bugs are far too prevalent for a AAA game)
Its very reminiscent of most GTA clones. (to clarify im not saying its a GTA clone before anyone jumps on that) They do some cool things but ultimately lack in most important ones.
Re: Final Fantasy 16 PS5 Update 1.03 Out Now, Get All the Patch Notes Here
Set motion blur to 2. Seems a much better balance now.
Re: PS4 Version Helps Final Fantasy Pixel Remasters Sell Two Million Copies
@JustPlainLoco For a reasonable price? You cant. SE decided to sell a limited amount of copies which were snapped up within minutes.
Re: State of Play Showcase Set for Thursday, Final Fantasy 16 the Focus
I'll try and not watch it as i've had it pre ordered since it was first available.
Can see this being a GOTY contender.
Re: Media Molecule to Cease Live Service for Dreams, Now Working on a New Project
Those of you moaning about MM not making a game catered to the masses are the opposite reason why Sony are in the position they are today.
Dreams has likely inspired young game developers in the same way Net Yaroze did back on PS1.
Stifling creativity isn't the way to push this medium forward and I'm glad MM and Sony went down the route. My only gripe is that Sony didn't stick it on ps plus at the earliest opportunity.
Dreams was a gamble, and they've clearly had some decent ideas given Epic is about to do similar within Fortnite.
Re: Final Fantasy Pixel Remasters Add Exp Boosts, Random Encounter Toggle, and More on PS4
@Robbirtles given the games can be purchased individually then should be separate platinums.
Re: Final Fantasy Pixel Remasters Add Exp Boosts, Random Encounter Toggle, and More on PS4
@DrGonzo Good games are always good games and for many this will be the first time they've had the chance to play these titles.
What's the problem?
Re: Final Fantasy 16 Goes Gold Well Ahead of June Release Date
Yoshi P runs a tight ship. Not a sh*te tip.
Excellent to see.
Re: Uh Oh! Sony Patents NFT Trading Framework for Gaming Platforms
Companies patent things ALL the time they've no plan in using. Just ensures that if someone tries the idea they have to cough up to use it.
I wouldn't worry too much.