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So hang on, let me get this straight, as someone with no previous Death Stranding experience, could I just buy an old pre-owned PS4 copy of the base game, stick it in my PS5, pay the £5 upgrade then I'll have all the content with added PS5 bells and whistles?

@Shstrick absolutely. I really don't know the details of how these deals come about, but I could envision a scenario where the image went up before the ink was dry, and MS swooped in with a better deal.

If that happened, how much of a kick in the nuts would it be if MS announced it last night? Even though I tend to sway towards Sony, the gall of such a movewoild make me laugh!

I feel it was perhaps overhyped, which isn't completely Sony's fault. I would really have liked to have more of what Sony Studios are up to, off the top of my head only Polyphony, Sony Santa Monica and Insomniac (especially Insomniac) showed up. Still, suggests there is still a lot more to come.

Really wish we got some updates on PSPlus/Now though and really starting to think that Bluepoint acquisition was some sort of mass collective hallucination!

I'm in it mostly for the wow moments, and KOTOR and Wolverine certainly gave us that at least

Well you guys are sure going to look silly when Last of Us: Brotherly Love shadow drops tomorrow

I despise anime. Would like it if it included Now but would be a bit put out if I paid extra on top for the anime stuff I will never use

I'm off on my holi-bobs, but convinced the wife to let me take the PS5 and Switch to occupy our son (yeah, I'm not convinced she bought it either) so, time permitting I'm hoping for more time on Skyward Sword and hopefully another run or 2 at Returnal (I WILL best that dammed third biome)

2022 is going to be absolutely nuts, whether HFW launches then or not

It's pretty rare that GwG trumps PS+

Nice! Been umming and ahhing about getting this. As others have said, Sony really need to be more proactive with marketing. XBox made a massive hullabaloo about what amounted to a 30 day free trial for Disney plus, and even that was only for new customers!

Probably back to Ratchet, I feel like a bit of a party pooper as everyone says it is great but to be honest I'm enjoying it in the moment, but overall finding it a bit of a slog. Once it's done I'm going to set myself the task of completing RDR2 before it leaves Now. Wish me luck!

Yeah, this will be a Gamepass game for me. I've never been enamoured with Arkane games anyway and although this looks cool enough I think I'll be able to wait

@wiiware here you go pal, I think this is what you're after

https://youtu.be/XoeZJLHnbNk

The wife's away, so once the kids are in bed and the England game has been out to bed I'll probably have a game or 2 of FIFA 21 on the XSX, then get stuck into either Returnal or R&C. It'll be a late night, I hope the kids bless me with a lie in!

@wiiware for me it's simple - if an actor is good for the role, I want them to play them.

Where does it end? Is it ok for Ellie's hair to be a different shade of brown? What about the placement of her freckles? And if she's a millimetre the wrong height the whole thing is a travesty.

No, of course not. It's only ever the race that matters in these conversations

I've said it before, and I'll say it again. I love gaming, but I despise gamers.

Casting directors base their decisions on performance, not race. Fanboys need to get over the fact that an adaptation is not a translation, it has new creative input, and if you want the story as it was then just play the damn game. It is clear that Pedro Pascal is a terrific actor who will be a great fit for Joel, and I can only assume they felt the same for this young actress.

Some of the comments just stink of the dreaded R-word, and it's incredibly unpleasant.

And @wiiware, the difference is that Black Panther and Blade are intrinsically linked to their race, so it would be ludricous to race swap them. They were stories largely written by white men who ramped up their race as their defining feature for largely commercial reasons

The people who sign this are doing nothing but embarrassing themselves and PlayStation

Well that completely ruins my answer for the "most anticipated game for second half of 2021" poll...

Really can't see how it could be anything but Silent Hill, and that's such a disappointment. Everything Bloober has done has been incredibly lackluster

I'm not a multiplayer guy but, dare I say it, I think I'm up for this. Loved Control, and flying about flinging debris at each other really sounds like fun. That said, I'm much more excited by the idea of proper sequel

Damn it Sony, I have so much in my backlog already, and you're just going to drop something like this and make me play it all over again aren't you...

@Angelus3K It would be interesting to see. I may be wrong, but I was lead to believe that subscription services such as Gamepass and Now pay devs/publishers perpetually for as long as it is on the service, where plus gives them a one off payment. So it may be a case of devs being fine to offer the upgrade if they continue to be paid for it... then again, that's just speculation, I may completely wrong about how these things are set up.

Regardless, it's yet another bad look for Sony regarding gamepass. I really feel they must have something planned to properly take on MS in the subscription space. As such as some of you may not like it, you can't deny that the industry have embraced the GP model and I don't see it going away anytime soon

@Icey664 the pedigree. Everything Miyazaki has done since Demon's Souls has been top tier, and GRRM is incredible at world building. Hard yes for me, I can't see it not being in the running for GOTY for me, even if GOW releases in 2022

My expectations are extremely low for PlayStation, but keen to see what Microsoft and Nintendo come out with

There is a difference between a game releasing for PS4, and being designed for PS4. I can imagine that PS5 was the lead console during development and, given the stock shortages, Sony asked some of their developers if they are able to get their games to run on PS4, and they found that they could. It would be naive to expect developers to be so familiar with a system this early on to be developing games so reliant on that system's unique features that it couldn't possibly be ported to a previous generation. In all honesty I feel the main thing fanboys are upset about is that they can't lord it over Xbox players, and that's just pretty pathetic

... And is cross gen, as well as GT7. Honestly though, one look at H:FW should be enough to show that isn't a problem

It's pathetic, plain and simple. Sony would be applauded for not pushing societal preconceptions of beauty on their protagonists. The discussion around Abby in TLOU reeked of this kind of misogyny and in all honesty I think the best antidote to it is just ignore it. These games sell massive amounts, and it gratifying to see that a quality product can sell without having to pander to an unpleasant minority

I definitely get the sense that Sony have some big things planned, quite possibly the proposed counter to Gamepass. It seems that all three console makers are really hitting their stride right now, and I have to imagine if Sony are confident about hitting 50% market share they have something up their sleeve....

That said, Sony are always finding new ways to disappoint me so maybe I'm just talking bollocks

Maybe I'm just dim, but did the PSNow slide seem to be insinuating that Spider-Man: MM and Horizon FW will be heading to to PSNow? A lot of interesting things to come out of this, I'm expecting some big moves from PS in the coming months...

@JB_Whiting Ah I see, I wasn't aware of the back story. That is a shame then.

I honestly didn't understand what the hype was about. It looked very average from screenshots, but I hadn't looked far into it so assumed I was missing something. Apparently not

I honestly don't get people saying it isn't scary. Sure, the majority isn't scary, but THAT section is honestly the most terrifying thing I have experienced since PT.

I will say that the tone of the game is completely mental - it goes through about 3 different genres in it's 10 hour runtime. However, I loved it, maybe more so for the insanity, and gave it a 9. Tied for Demon's Souls for my favourite next-gen experience so far

Returnal for PS5, Mass Effect for XSX. That's if I get any time to play, which is a big if

@Splat it's their worst game that I've played - I really didn't get on with it. But then I never played Fuse...

I'm just finishing up on Hollow Knight on XSX, and I should be able to pick up my copy of Returnal from Currys on Saturday evening. My son got Mario Party on the Switch for his birthday last week, so I'm sure he'll want to have a few games on that too

@ShogunRok It's not a new observation, but regrettably I don't think to propensity for outrage in recent times has been at all limited to gaming circles. Rather, the gaming community is just reflective of the propetual and unnecessary anger that is so widespread in today's world

@get2sammyb If I buy it and it turns up on PS Plus in June, I'm sending you the invoice

Seriously though, if a merging of Now and Plus is on the cards, they just need to scrap the Now name altogether - far too many people still think it is a streaming only service, and they name will always be in the shadow of Gamepass because of people's pre-existing opinions about it

But how will they mess it up, in their usual Sony trademark way? Only works on a Sunday? Must be used with an Atari Jaguar controller? Or just a simple kick in the balls from Jim for every minute played?

I think this game is my earliest gaming memory, had it preinstalled on our Master System, I remember my big bro calling our cousin to find out how to beat those damn paper scissor stone guys. Can't wait to see how this is

My personal hot take, as someone with an XSX with GPU and PS5 with plus and Now - right now, plus with Now is as good as GPU, or at least very close, and Sony would be foolish not to combine them. The duplicate games suck so it would be great if there was less than that, but I'm finding more to play on Sony services than Gamepass recently
(GWG is irrelevant right now). Sure, Now+plus doesn't get the first party exclusives day 1, but even the most ardent Xbox fanboys must admit there is a gulf in quality between exclusives, and Sony would be mad to do the same

@Gilvin but if you want the game, why not buy it. You're not losing anything from this news if you were going to buy it anyway, and not buying it because it is going on Xbox is just spiting yourself

@mucc of course not, but I'm saying most people don't think like that with subscriptions, which is why they're so effective. If I want to watch Stranger Things I could buy the DVD, but obviously I'll watch it on Netflix because to my mind it is as good as free because I already have it for every other piece of content. Once a subscription because part of your regular outgoings, anything on it just gets seen as free. I always refer to the PS Plus games as free, bc I'm unlikely to let my sub lapse as it's just a part of my regular outgoings now, and I suspect it is the grant with GP for a lot of Xbox owners

@Roel03 people need to let of the "it's not free" argument. It may be true, but I think the headline was referring to the optics of the situation, and for Joe Bloggs it looks like the game is £70 on PS and as good as free, if you have Game Pass (which most do) on Xbox

@AdamNovice it's a PlayStation news site, what are they meant to do? If you just want to hear Sony approved press releases just go to the blog

@Martsmall it's not really comparable though as MLB was brought about by MLB, whereas other PS Studios exclusives, with the exception of Spider-Man, are Sony IPs developed by first party studios with no outside contractual obligation. I could forsee a similar situation with Spider-Man depending on what happens with rights with that character down the line, but otherwise it seems just as likely you would see Master Chief on PS as Kratos on XBox

One thought is if Sony is seeing this as an opportunity to show off the quality of PlayStation Studios' quality to those who only play on XBox. More likely it is just MLB making a deal. Regardless, I think it's a plus for MS as opposed to a minus for Sony - people surely by PS for the likes of God of War and Spider-Man, and those with just the one console will still buy it if it appeals to them

@__jamiie honestly, none of them. And I have an XSX with GPU so they're not going anywhere for me - they just don't interest me! Nonetheless, I recognise I am maybe in the minority and it will undoubtedly be a blow to Sony

I've got XSX and PS5 so I've genuinely got no horse in this race, but I really do find Bethesda games lacking, I just bounce off them; they're just far too janky for my liking. Doom 2016 was pretty good but unmemorable, and I really can't get into Doom Eternal.

All that being said, I'm looking forward to a conclusion to this, because either way it will be hilarious what the fanboy fallout is. I'll personally love it most if they're not exclusive, as the saltiness over of PureXbox is unreal.

Frankly, if PS Plus keeps up the current quality then GamePass will no longer be able to lay claim to the "best deal in gaming" moniker!

@Matroska stick the cling ring on too if you're concerned about the effect on your vitality.

I loved it, could only get into BB before but now I'm on a From soft binge off the back of it - completed Dark Souls over the weekend and now powering through another Bloodborne playthrough