Frankly, I'd be disappointed if it was Silent Hill. Bloober's output really leaves a lot to be desired; the Medium was utterly tedious and completely devoid of scares
Blimey, between this being on PS Collection, Control and Destruction All-Stars it's a hell of a week for PS Plus members! When am I gonna get time to finish Demon's Souls?!
I've just finished it, jumped straight onto Assassins Creed Valhalla, and all I can think is how I wish I was still playing Ghost of Tsushima. Utterly spectacular
@TG16_IS_BAE no you were suggesting people should work harder to get more value out of their games, and I was just pointing out that some people can get everything they want to get out of a game in a shorter amount of time, and replaying it over and over again would not be satisfying to them. I get your initial point that people should expect game prices will rise with inflation and higher budgets but the solution isn't necessarily to just grind through games to artificially lengthen your time with it if it is unlikely to satisfy you as much as a new experience. Which, bringing it back to the matter at hand, is why it is perhaps a misjudgement on Sony's end to expect people to pay a significant amount more for new games, no matter how justified the rise may be. It is likely to drive consumers to more cost effective alternatives such as gamepass, especially in the current climate.
@TG16_IS_BAE length absolutely comes into it, but it isn't the be all and end all. I love narrative heavy games and play them for the experience. I am unlikely to play them again as I know the story beats, but the experiences stay with me more than grinding through 300 hours of a generic RPG, and therefore are worth so much more. I'm not saying it doesn't come into it, but length is one of the last things I personally consider in a game, and although it's good for you if you are happy to play the same thing over and over again, it's mad to expect everyone to do the same as presumably they are looking for different experiences than you are.
@TG16_IS_BAE order 1886 was 6 hours long for £50 and the old SNES RPGs could last 100s of hours. Generally games are longer now but not always; I don't think using a game's length is necessarily the best factor in deciding its monetary worth. I would 10x more for Journey than Assassins Creed, because although was far shorter I found the experience to be far richer
@JohnKarnes blimey, it was only a couple of days ago I was being blasted on PureXbox as a Sony fanboy! You don't need to be an XBox fan to point out that the existence of Gamepass puts Sony at a very precarious position when it comes to titles like this. Personally I think Now is almost as good and could be great if Sony got properly behind it, but I'm concerned Sony do not have the money MS do to absorb the massive initial losses MS are presumably taking.
@get2sammyb while you're almost certainly right that GamePass is a loss leader right now, you have to imagine MS know what they're doing with it in the long run. I imagine they see themselves as Netflix, which until very recently was running at a significant loss but through streamlining and a number of small incremental increases in price arr now in a very strong position where people signed up when it was cheap and now just keep it going at the higher rate. If people buy XBoxes off the back of it as well, they will be even less likely to give up the subscription. If MS achieve this I worry Sony will find themselves in a very tricky situation.
@God_of_Nowt for a consumer that's fine, and likely the approach I would take. The concern, however, is that too many people will understandably think the same, resulting in very low release day numbers. Devs will have their budget set by a publisher largely based on how their previous game sold, and if they're not selling very well at launch, then publishers will not have confidence
@get2sammyb I agree that surely Gamepass's current offering cannot be viable in the long term, but then MS (who I assume hire people far better equipped than I to work out the economics of it all) certainly seem to be putting all their eggs into the subscription basket. After all, the last year they've been selling Gamepass first and consoles second.
Regardless, as you said the fact that such subs exist really put games like these in a quandary, and it really feels like Sony need to allow better flexibility in its pricing. They know the next Horizon and GOW will sell at £70, they would have done the market research, but they simply must be willing to adapt their pricing in a game by game basis otherwise new, unproven IPs will fail to sell, and the creatives at the studios may well defect to other, potentially greener (pun intended) pastures
I couldn't agree more, and it's where MS Gamepass proves it's worth. Looking at the new trailer I'm immediately thinking "That looks fun. I can't wait for it to come to PS Now", which surely isn't what a great developer like Housemarque would want to hear
@get2sammyb I'm loving my VR, but disappointed so many of the games make me nauseous. Do you have any idea if the Pro, with more stable frame rates, could help this at all? And did you notice any performance enhancements with the VR in general beyond visual (eg. The shaky motion when still and what not).
Also, I've got a 2tb hard drive in my vanilla PS4 - guessing it won't be as easy as swapping them over and keeping the data? I assume it will need to be reformatted...
@BAMozzy I just had the same email - although it also says ' You'll need an Amazon.co.uk account to redeem your discount code and claim your free 'The Last of Us'.
Guessing this is an Amazon cock up rather than a genuine free copy of The Last of Us!
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Re: Bloober Team Working on a Horror Game with a 'Very Famous Gaming Publisher'
Frankly, I'd be disappointed if it was Silent Hill. Bloober's output really leaves a lot to be desired; the Medium was utterly tedious and completely devoid of scares
Re: God of War Gets Full PS5 Support with 4K 60FPS Patch Coming Tomorrow
Blimey, between this being on PS Collection, Control and Destruction All-Stars it's a hell of a week for PS Plus members! When am I gonna get time to finish Demon's Souls?!
Re: Game of the Year: #3 - Ghost of Tsushima
I've just finished it, jumped straight onto Assassins Creed Valhalla, and all I can think is how I wish I was still playing Ghost of Tsushima. Utterly spectacular
Re: Soapbox: PS5 Pricing Is Setting Releases Like Returnal Up to Fail
@TG16_IS_BAE no you were suggesting people should work harder to get more value out of their games, and I was just pointing out that some people can get everything they want to get out of a game in a shorter amount of time, and replaying it over and over again would not be satisfying to them. I get your initial point that people should expect game prices will rise with inflation and higher budgets but the solution isn't necessarily to just grind through games to artificially lengthen your time with it if it is unlikely to satisfy you as much as a new experience. Which, bringing it back to the matter at hand, is why it is perhaps a misjudgement on Sony's end to expect people to pay a significant amount more for new games, no matter how justified the rise may be. It is likely to drive consumers to more cost effective alternatives such as gamepass, especially in the current climate.
Re: Soapbox: PS5 Pricing Is Setting Releases Like Returnal Up to Fail
@TG16_IS_BAE length absolutely comes into it, but it isn't the be all and end all. I love narrative heavy games and play them for the experience. I am unlikely to play them again as I know the story beats, but the experiences stay with me more than grinding through 300 hours of a generic RPG, and therefore are worth so much more. I'm not saying it doesn't come into it, but length is one of the last things I personally consider in a game, and although it's good for you if you are happy to play the same thing over and over again, it's mad to expect everyone to do the same as presumably they are looking for different experiences than you are.
Re: Soapbox: PS5 Pricing Is Setting Releases Like Returnal Up to Fail
@TG16_IS_BAE order 1886 was 6 hours long for £50 and the old SNES RPGs could last 100s of hours. Generally games are longer now but not always; I don't think using a game's length is necessarily the best factor in deciding its monetary worth. I would 10x more for Journey than Assassins Creed, because although was far shorter I found the experience to be far richer
Re: Soapbox: PS5 Pricing Is Setting Releases Like Returnal Up to Fail
@JohnKarnes blimey, it was only a couple of days ago I was being blasted on PureXbox as a Sony fanboy! You don't need to be an XBox fan to point out that the existence of Gamepass puts Sony at a very precarious position when it comes to titles like this. Personally I think Now is almost as good and could be great if Sony got properly behind it, but I'm concerned Sony do not have the money MS do to absorb the massive initial losses MS are presumably taking.
@get2sammyb while you're almost certainly right that GamePass is a loss leader right now, you have to imagine MS know what they're doing with it in the long run. I imagine they see themselves as Netflix, which until very recently was running at a significant loss but through streamlining and a number of small incremental increases in price arr now in a very strong position where people signed up when it was cheap and now just keep it going at the higher rate. If people buy XBoxes off the back of it as well, they will be even less likely to give up the subscription. If MS achieve this I worry Sony will find themselves in a very tricky situation.
Re: Soapbox: PS5 Pricing Is Setting Releases Like Returnal Up to Fail
@God_of_Nowt for a consumer that's fine, and likely the approach I would take. The concern, however, is that too many people will understandably think the same, resulting in very low release day numbers. Devs will have their budget set by a publisher largely based on how their previous game sold, and if they're not selling very well at launch, then publishers will not have confidence
Re: Soapbox: PS5 Pricing Is Setting Releases Like Returnal Up to Fail
@get2sammyb I agree that surely Gamepass's current offering cannot be viable in the long term, but then MS (who I assume hire people far better equipped than I to work out the economics of it all) certainly seem to be putting all their eggs into the subscription basket. After all, the last year they've been selling Gamepass first and consoles second.
Regardless, as you said the fact that such subs exist really put games like these in a quandary, and it really feels like Sony need to allow better flexibility in its pricing. They know the next Horizon and GOW will sell at £70, they would have done the market research, but they simply must be willing to adapt their pricing in a game by game basis otherwise new, unproven IPs will fail to sell, and the creatives at the studios may well defect to other, potentially greener (pun intended) pastures
Re: Soapbox: PS5 Pricing Is Setting Releases Like Returnal Up to Fail
I couldn't agree more, and it's where MS Gamepass proves it's worth. Looking at the new trailer I'm immediately thinking "That looks fun. I can't wait for it to come to PS Now", which surely isn't what a great developer like Housemarque would want to hear
Re: Poll: Is the PS5 DualSense Sony's Best Controller Yet?
Best controller ever, Sony or otherwise
Re: 10 Things to Do First with Your New PS5
11. If you're in Europe, cry
Re: UK Sales Charts: Final Fantasy VII Remake Leaves the Top 10 as GTA V Gains Ground
I dare say GTA's spike is in no small part due to it leaving a certain rival subscription service
Re: PS5's User Interface Could Help You to Plan Your Game Sessions
As someone with very limited game time, I think this is an awesome idea, as long as it can be turned off.
Re: PS5's DualSense Controller Explodes on Social Media
@Haruki_NLI it looks to me like the PS logo is the button
Re: PS4 Community Helps Out House Fire Victim Whose Console Was Damaged in the Blaze
@LemonHaze I doubt he has a thing called assurance
Re: Sony Spotlights Some of Its Top Talent on International Women's Day
@JJ2 @pimpjuice 19th November
Re: Old Ubisoft Uplay Points Start Expiring This Month, So Spend 'Em Now
Oh darn, I was totally planning on spending those too
Re: Hands On: Quit Bitchin'! PS4 Pro Is a Big, Beautiful Step Forward
@get2sammyb I'm loving my VR, but disappointed so many of the games make me nauseous. Do you have any idea if the Pro, with more stable frame rates, could help this at all? And did you notice any performance enhancements with the VR in general beyond visual (eg. The shaky motion when still and what not).
Also, I've got a 2tb hard drive in my vanilla PS4 - guessing it won't be as easy as swapping them over and keeping the data? I assume it will need to be reformatted...
Re: PS4 Pro Sold Out Until After Christmas, Says Amazon UK
@BAMozzy I just had the same email - although it also says '
You'll need an Amazon.co.uk account to redeem your discount code and claim your free 'The Last of Us'.
Guessing this is an Amazon cock up rather than a genuine free copy of The Last of Us!