PS Plus Version of Greedfall Won't Upgrade to PS5 Version for Free

I’d assume it’s to do with the difference in set-up. So it’s less an Xbox vs Playstation thing, as the direct comparison between those two would be with PS Now and Game Pass rather than PS Plus.

It's all abt subscription now.....

Missing those goodold dayzzz...

Greedfall was on PS Now last time I checked but I’d be surprised if that had a free upgrade.

@Angelus3K PS Now doesn’t have any PS5 games and I’m not sure with the way the licenses work that they could have a free upgrade path.

Kind of suck but oh well, at least the paid version can be upgraded free.

@Angelus3K
We didn't get PS5 versions of Avengers or Borderlands 3 on PS Now unfortunately.
Must be a contractual thing or maybe an issue with how PS5 upgrades are handled?

“must pay”

Like, when did it become crime for a business thats trying to run a business charges for its products so it can make money, like a business. I dont understand l, id love to hav everything for free but thats not how the world works. The people who make these games for you need to eat.

MS likely paid again for the upgrade. That's all there is to it.

Weird decision but no big deal, it'll just stay as another unplayed PS+ game then. I'd have given it a go on the PS5 upgrade, but no chance I'm using my valuable time on an average open worlder at 30fps jank. And no chance I'm paying for an upgrade either.

Next!

There it is.

@Bleachedsmiles Looks like they've recovered now. 😉

@Angelus3K It would be interesting to see. I may be wrong, but I was lead to believe that subscription services such as Gamepass and Now pay devs/publishers perpetually for as long as it is on the service, where plus gives them a one off payment. So it may be a case of devs being fine to offer the upgrade if they continue to be paid for it... then again, that's just speculation, I may completely wrong about how these things are set up.

Regardless, it's yet another bad look for Sony regarding gamepass. I really feel they must have something planned to properly take on MS in the subscription space. As such as some of you may not like it, you can't deny that the industry have embraced the GP model and I don't see it going away anytime soon

@Jessica2K
Did you avoid FF7 as well then?
You couldn't upgrade the PS+ version of that either without actually buying the game...

Was thinking about playing this, but with this news... HARD PASS.

Booooo. That is all

Smart Delivery FTW!

While I am platform agnostic, I can't help but point out how much crap people here gave Microsoft for advertising Smart Delivery as a selling point to Series X and how Microsoft was living in the past with an actual strong cross-generation strategy.

"Sony believes in generations" and all that!

I still love the PS5 and Sony exclusives, but Microsoft is killing it in this department.

Can people stop comparing PS+ to Game Pass, when this is a Games with Gold comparison... Yes we got Greedfall PS4 for free. Should we get the free upgrade when another paid subscription is getting it? No. They are paying monthly for the most up to date games, we are paying for online multiplayer with bonus offerings. Hassle Sony to make PS Now more competitive instead.

Have both versions in the backlog but guess I’ll now be playing the GamePass version.

Glad to be a fan of both systems so I can take the wins on both sides!

What tiny chance there was of me trying out the game just went out the window.

It's likely that MS paid more money for this to include the PS5 version when it was released as it is currently available on the service. The PS+ deal was probably cheaper and just included the PS4 version which was available at the time. Now if Sony wanted to include the PS5 version in that they would likely have to pay more money per user that took that option. Personally I'd rather they put that money towards something else down the line.

@CKFilms Totally agree mate, we have come to a place where we are constantly comparing two different services

I know we are all Sony fanboys here, but these missteps are directing me to get Xbox Series X as my first of the next gen consoles.

I can still play most upcoming PS5 games on my PS4 so that upgrade can wait, but the value of Game Pass is too tantalising to not consider seriously.

@blinx01 Difference is that FF7 is a well made well polished AAA game that got mega good reviews. This on the other hand is, so ive heard, a janky average title at best. I downloaded the free PS+ version and decided to wait for the "free" upgrade just to try it out. Guess i wont be trying it out now because im not paying for a game i have no real interest in.

@CKFilms The thing is, Games with Gold games also get upgrades because of the way Smart Delivery works.

If there is an upgrade available and it was done via Smart Delivery, then the system itself updates to the proper version of the game. Period.

Now, there aren't that many Games with Gold games that have Series X specific versions (maybe 1 or 2); but the fact is, developers seem to really love Smart Delivery because they keep using it for games (and therefore Xbox games get free upgrades).

@JapaneseSonic This has to be a joke. If I say anything positive about Xbox I get blasted.

@blinx01 Yep.

@themightyant that would also make sense.

Started playing this from ps plus a couple days ago with the thought that "hey this game isn't terrible so I'll play it while the ps5 upgrade comes out" The sour taste from this move plus the overall mediocrity of the game probably means ill just go ahead and delete it.

Why bring up the xbox thing again? Unless your trying to Stoke the consol war fire

@GamingFan4Lyf Yeah because it's not a lot of work. From what I understand it, PS5 versions need a whole new standalone game application, rather than a simple update for the Xbox version to take full advantage of the Xbox series X system. They are having to work with the integrated SSD and the Dualsense haptic feedback to make full use of the PS5. That isn't done in just an update, unfortunately.

@Kienda I think that's a smart choice. If I were running short of games to play, didn't have a backlog, and still gamed for hours every day like when I was younger, I'd have done the same. Same for anyone new to gaming, or not heavily invested in Sony's ecosystem.

As it is, for reasons above, I gave my PS4 Pro to my nephew and got myself a PS5.

Microsoft most likely paid for the upgraded version to be offered, hence making playstation look bad

@JapaneseSonic well, for me personally, my son has now got my Xbox One in his room so I rarely get a chance to play it unless I’m playing couch coop with the kids.

I could buy any one of the Xboxes for Game Pass, but thinking the Series X/S would be the way to go.

I am just happy they gave away the game on PS4 with PS Plus. Even if I had a PS5 I wouldn't care as the PS5 can play the game. I don't care about games on Xbox Series X or One versions either. The upgraded consoles best features for me are quicker load times and steady frame rates. These are the things that make or break a game for me rather than fancy graphics.

@Kidfried I agree. Both systems are great and so is the Switch. Heck, even if you only have a PS3 you will still have a great gaming experience.

Anyone saying one sucks or whatever are clueless or has issues with their own insecurities. There are people still playing Anthem and enjoying it, for goodness sake! We can all have fun whatever console we happen to own. And there are too many games for any of us to complete anyway.

Imagine being toxic towards a small AA studio for trying to make a bit more money.
I never saw this much outrage for FFVII Remake and suddenly, Spiders/Focus are the most vile companies on Earth.
You guys can truly be hypocrites sometimes...

@GamingFan4Lyf Yeah, if Sony did actually believe in generations it wouldn’t be as bad but they clearly don’t believe in generations so it’s 1 point to MS in this instance. Sony need to step it up.

@JapaneseSonic In this specific scenario it’s the people saying Microsoft just paid for companies. Not very bad here. In other articles I’ve been ganged up on for supporting anything Xbox.

This could become a huge problem soon.. it does not look good when Sony does such moves.

@Jessica2K Gurl, how about you play the game and THEN give an opinion?
It's far from average and it has more charm compared to many AAA titles.

@Kienda We are most certainly not all Sony fanboys. 😂

@Divergent95 Absolutely. "We see you've done some extra work on this free thing we got, can we have it again for free?" That's not a good deal. Have it off with Sony as they didn't broker a deal with the studio for the PS5 version.

Oh well, looks like they’ve lost themselves a potential player as I’d considered finally giving it a go with the upgrade but, like FV7, I’m not coughing up more money for an enhanced version no matter how good the game. Plus Doom Eternal is free from today so I’ll focus on that alongside finishing Fallen Order again …

Not sure why anybody is getting heated over this. Ive not seen anybody say anything good about this game since it’s original release. Go play literally anything else.

Doesn't bother me really. Microsoft are clearly paying for the upgrade as part of the deal around the game going to Game Pass, and Sony are not for PS Plus. Just one of those things and not worth getting upset over

It can only mean one thing. It will be given away as ps5 ps plus game for ps5 in the future. Lol

Once again push square is blowing something out of proportion. Ps plus and gamepass are 2 different services. You can't compare them. The closest comparison to ps plus would be games with gold.

Also I'm brand new to the xbox ecosystem but even I can understand that smart delivery is MUCH MUCH different than giving a free pa5 upgrade.

Gamepass is programmed to automatically allow access to the version that is meant for your system. Thats the end of the story.

@JapaneseSonic No worries at all. I love PS exclusives and I love GamePass. Win/win for me. I get called a PS fanboy on Pure Xbox so it goes both ways.

@get2sammyb Also there is a 'difference' between PS+ and Game Pass. PS+ offered a PS4 version WHEN it was offered a few months back. Its no longer part of the PS+ monthly offerings.

Greedfall is still currently in Game Pass so it makes sense to have 'both' generations of the game available to play, depending on your hardware. Why not have the 'next' gen version in Game Pass too when the XB1 version is in Game Pass?

As you also said, there is a difference between giving a game away with little/no chance of generating a 'sale' and having a game available to play for a period of time with the possibility of generating a sale (albeit discounted). No doubt, the Devs get 'some' money for every person that opts to play Greedfall via Game Pass - like they do with PS+ (or Gold - as we heard some of the 'deals' during the Apple vs Epic trial) but on Game Pass, they could also get more money from a sale as people want to 'keep' those games after trying them through GP.

@CKFilms If anyone is to "blame", it's Sony. But nooo, god forbid people supporting a polished single player game from a small, talented studio. Just look at Steam reviews for Cyberpunk, or comments on Push Square lol. Everyone is like "OmG It DeServes anoTher ChancE!1!1!", but for Greedfall it's like: HOW DARE THEY SELL US A COMPLETED GAME WITH A BRAND NEW DLC????

@Divergent95 define "everyone"

The difference is the Gamepass version is a timed rental and the Plus version is yours to keep forever as long as you keep your service going. I don't see the problem here. Also Greedfall was part of Plus 6 months ago, why would people get the upgrade?

Until they decide to remove it from the limited time subscription. PS+ is in your library forever.

@themightyant

I see what you’re saying about the assets, but the rest, I Don’t agree. I dont see how this is “nickel and diming” people when those people got the game for free on ps plus and didnt pay a cent. If you purchased the game, you still get your free upgrade.

I feel like this should be more of a “microsoft is really generous” thing, and less of a “sony is terrible for not giving you everything for free”, thing.

@naruball I didn't mean everyone literally, but a good majority for some messed up reason, want to spend their money on that dumpster fire.
I apologize if I came off as a Darren, but seeing these people talk s**t...
It's unfair.

@mucc
Damn you beat me to it for 10s haha

You can buy it new from argos for 12 quid then upgrade,or rent it from game pass if you have an xbox ,own for 12 rent for 10 the decision is yours.

I want to play Greedfall eventually. But I am not going to pay full price for a graphical upgrade when the PS4 version is sitting in my library via Plus for no additional cost.

In the near future I will play the PS4 version and be perfectly content with it.

Well, they’ve just lost a player. I was going to get around to playing this at some point, but now I’ll just feel like I’m playing a second rate version. Not paying to upgrade to it.
And also, really don’t care what the difference is from Gamepass. That seems a bit clickbait honestly. Especially as Gamepass costs over twice as much.

GreedFall PS5 upgrade os good. And I was really happy about thenews, because I have it in PS Plus. But now I am straight disappointed. I was gonna play GF sooner or later, as it is a small game (and I have better things to play). And when PS5 Patch news came out, I was really happy - Wow! When I get myself a PS5, I can play enhanced edition of GreedFall! Yay!
But now... It is not that kind of game that I want to buy. I mean, if it came with subscription yeah, why not! But I will not pay for it separetly just to play on PS5.
They could be a little more humane and offer, maybe, Patch available as paid DLC? Or just straight don't be such Greedy ***** and just offer it is as free upgrade.
It is not even a Remaster lmao.
Not paying for PS5 version. Not playing PS4 version. Gg

Cool with no free upgrade but wish there was a way to do it without getting again. Maybe a $5 or $10 dollar charge

@torne Respectfully: Microsoft is Sony’s direct competitor, and they feature a service that is not available in the PS ecosystem. What is available there is always going to be compared to what Sony can offer through its services, and has been since the latest console generation started. Not just at Push Square, but at every gaming outlet.

It isn’t going to make me run out and get an Xbox or anything, but I think that game pass subscribers being able to upgrade when Plus users cannot is relevant information for consumers to have.

@Jessica2K yeah, that makes perfect sense and suits your situation perfectly.

To be honest, I probably should just stick to one console and focus my time into getting the most out of that, especially as I’m married with kids and run a business, but I’ve owned every console each generation since I was 10-years-old and enjoying them all is part of the thrill for me. Just wish I had more time.

@Westernwolf4 I get what you are saying but it's 100% a different service.

Here is how the comparison SHOULD go. Ps now to gamepass. If this game was available on both PSNOW and Gamepass then it is a fair and accurate comparison to make.

However... as was already pointed out, this game was on ps+ like 6 months ago and is currently on gamepass.

It makes absolute sense for them to provide the upgraded version on gamepass as that is the precedent Microsoft has set.

You can't compare apples and oranges.

All these comments saying it's all xboxns fault it's in thier contract blah blah ,have you not learned anything from the games that have to wait for the ps5 version ? Sniper ghost contracts ,so on and so on , ps5 messed up in not having a smart delivery system put in place like Xbox

@torne I completely understand what you are saying. But consumers are not at all concerned about whether it is "fair" to compare the different services available through MS and PS. They only want to know: What games/upgrades can I get if I am part of the PS Ecosystem? What games/upgrades can I get if I am part of the MS ecosystem?

That is why the comparisons between Plus and Gamepass are being made everywhere. The important thing to people is not whether PS Now or PS Plus can be properly compared to gamepass. It is what is available from each ecosystem taken in total. Here, it is likely that if you are a member or the MS ecosystem you have yourself a free Greedfall upgrade, and if you only have PlayStation it is certain that you don't.

Why are you comparing this to the Xbox GamePass version? All that has happened is that the GamePass version has been upgraded, and it needs to be born in mind that those that subscribe to the GamePass do not own the games on the Pass. They lose access to the games the moment the game leaves the Pass or they discontinue their subscription to the Pass. There is no need to compare this with the PS Plus version at all. Saying this kind of thing just stokes unnecessary ill feeling...

Had got quite far on the PS+ version but then grew a bit bored. Was going to revisit it once the upgrade landed but guess that’s not happening now. Oh well. A very average game IMO.

@Westernwolf4 I think you are missing the mark here just a bit, and part of that is on me for talking about the comparisons between ps plus and gamepass.

The only version as far as I have seen that is not getting the free upgrade is the ps plus version. As far as I have seen the ps4 version that people have paid for will be upgraded for free.

This is exactly like the ff7 situation in March. Those that purchased it got the free upgrade. Those that got it via ps plus didn't.

Reading through the comments, there is a lot of sentiment that Push Square should not compare the results of Plus with Gamepass, and that surprises me. Not because it is wrong to have that opinion or anything, just that it is so very different from the way I look at it.

Sammy's post near the beginning of this thread sums up my view: When it comes to Greedfall, PlayStation consumers are getting a worse deal than what is available from Sony's direct competitor, and I think that is newsworthy.

@torne The fact that the paid PS4 version can be upgraded has nothing to do with the point that I am making. I am well aware of that, and that the same thing happened in March with FF7.

The point is that you have a Playstaion Plus customer and a Gamepass customer. Both get Greedfall for no additional cost beyond what was paid to subscribe. But if you are an Gamepass customer, you also get an upgrade. The PS Pus customer does not.

You may think that is irrelevant, but it is undeniable that the PS player is getting a worse deal than the MS player. And it is not out of bounds for gaming outlets to tell gaming consumers about the difference.

@Westernwolf4 again you can't compare apples and oranges. No matter how you spin it, this is two separate services.

One can also argue that the ps user gets a better deal because they get to keep the game for as long as they are a member of ps plus, where with gamepass it goes away after a set time. Didn't get to play it while it was on there? Too bad go buy it now.

Either way I am not going to debate this any more its not worth the time it takes.

@Westernwolf4 Pretty much this.

I mentioned this on thread when Greedfall upgrade was announced and pretty much got called entitled.

People keep using the word free but that is not the case. I pay for PS Plus. Now in my mind it depends on the upgrade path - if I can upgrade to PS5 version for a minimal cost I may consider it. In the case of FF7 Remake, I was slightly annoyed that as something I had paid for via PS Plus, the only way I could get an upgrade at the time was to pay £70 for an entire version.

With Greedfall, I can get the similarly upgraded version on Gamepass without any additional fee.

Is this the end of the world? Not at all. It is a small point. It's just something that niggles as an early adopter of the PS5. I just want a simple and consistent upgrade path.

@Divergent95 I'll make my own decisions and I'm good thanks!

I pay $149 for my year of GamePass. I pay $29 for 1 year of PS+ on Black Friday (4 years in a row now)

Trying out FF7R on its own payed for PS+ - what GamePass has does not change that as a PS owner.

And I am part of the minority who wants to play games like this.

Most PC/Xbox/PS owners do not subscribe to any service. They do not care about any of this.

@Rudy_Manchego Exactly this. It is absolutely not the end of the world. It is also a relevant piece of news in terms of what two direct competitors are offering for an upgrade path for a game available to both.

@anon_pel222 I mean, you can still buy game regardless of subscription

@Divergent95 yeah, I get what you mean. I just think sometime we have a bit of selective memory when we're invested in one way or another in something. I've seen many commenters saying we should give Cyberpunk a second chance and just as many saying it's trash.

@Agramonte You’re paying way too much for GamePass. There’s always been some deals out there. Granted I got in when there were huge conversion rates for Gold. Got 3 years of GamePass for like $50 total!

Does it matter what xbox does? Do sony fanboys care about anything xbox does? If you don't, then move on; if you do, then I can see why you're here. No one gets into this kind of huff over anything stadia or luna does. Why? Cause people truly don't care.

Console wars, like real wars, are fought by the poor.

And people need to stop saying it’s just because it’s on GamePass. Any Games with Gold, which can be compared to PS+, also get upgraded for free when available. It’s all due to SmartDelivery. MS doesn’t turn that off just because it’s a GWG or GamePass.

Am I only one that felt this game was too clunky and cheap feeling to care about? I played it a little bit but Idk, it felt like a budget game with too much ambition. There's way too many games out there for me to bother with stuff like this. I guess if you're dying for a RPG along these lines it might do the job.

Thats kinda dumb but it makes sense. GamePass isn’t something that is forever ok their subscription where if you have PS+ you get it. Sony uses the money from PS+ to get new games every month so free upgrades doesn’t quite make sense. Either way I’m glad I actually bought the game for $15.

Does anyone know if the DLC is free as well or is that extra?

@MetalGear_Yoshi yeah nothing special at all - would have played it by now had it been. Hope they sell zero more copies!

Annoying, just like the ff7 deal. Sony need have a chat/pay the right people. If you were buying a console after E3 it would be hard to go playstation.

@awp69 That is a good deal, I not seen that. I mean it is better than the $180 I would be paying if doing monthly for Ultimate

I have seen some deals for PC GamePass. But I need xCloud.

Lame, to be sure. Would be lamer still if I deemed the game worth my time. But I jumped ship early in when it became clear that I'd be forced to role-play as a total colonialist to advance. Would have appreciated some choice, there. I assume this is why they call it Game Pass. Because it's full of games I've passed on. Shame about this one, though, because I thought it had surprisingly solid bones for a AA RPG experience, which I seek out and cherish.

Well this kind of sucks. I’ve alexia’s like the developer and wanted to give this one a shot after being underwhelmed by it when I played the PS+ version. Just felt too slow and janky. Guess I’ll say for this to drop in price or become free with Plus.

Not sure how this has turned into a console war debate and some of these comments like "review bomb" are shameful.

The reality is this is probably heavily down to how Sony have poorly implemented the upgrade path from PS4 to PS5 version.

The PS+ version not getting an upgrade I can sort of understand, but there's no excuse for the PS Now version not getting one when Game Pass does. Same issue with Avengers and Borderlands 3.
This is where we as customers need to be vocal to Sony to improve the services we pay for to be competitive with Xbox, not slate the developer when the issue isn't with them or blame Xbox by saying "Microsoft most likely paid for the upgraded version to be offered, hence making playstation look bad".

Let's be constructive guys.

All I got to say is (It is what it is) sad !!!!

It's literally called greedfall.

What a strange decision. It's not like anyone who has the plus version is going to buy the upgrade after this and all they've done is put me off playing the version I have and spread a load of bad will.

@Old-Red this exactly. I'm probably going to play it via BC, but I'm not paying more than £10 to get the upgrades for a game I already own when it's £13 on Steam right now, and I'm not likely to buy DLC for a game where I can't play the best version. Given the disc is £35 to pre-order, my hopes are not high.

I've bought all the DLC for a few games I got through Plus and the collection, and I'm sure I'm not the only one, so this is rather a case of cutting their nose off to spite their faces.

Meh, sucks but I already expected it since FF7R had no free option as well.

💩 is about all I can say on the matter. Next generation of hardware, I'll probably switch to Xbox

@nessisonett Well considering with PS+ your just paying for PS+ and with Gamepass you actually have to pay one fee for the XBL gold and then pay again for access to gamepass.

@get2sammyb are you serious?
This game will be on sale, just like all others.
Few days ago I purchased PS5 version of Fallen order for 13 EUR. And it's mine.
Same could be done with Greedfall with sales on PS store are being this frequent.

We are not getting worse treatment.

It's just different model of sales.

Which, in case of xbox, is unprofitable and they are yet to figure out how to make money out of it.

It's fine. I dont see why ppl need to complain about a free upgrade for a game that has a small niche following.
We got it on PSN as a monthly game.
If you're a fan support the upgrade or just settle for the ps4 version.
Either way the fans win and it is a option for them to replay it again for a price.

@MetalGear_Yoshi yeah it was another dark souls like, i didn't even bother downloading or playing it, if i didn't even touch ps4 version, i certainly wouldn't bother/care with ps5 ver, free or not

@Gelly the individual devs of this game have already been paid.

The profits only ever go in to the pockets of the CEOs and shareholders.

It's crazy to me that we can have Activision paying out $155m in bonuses to their CEO, while also laying off hundreds, and people still make the argument that "devs gotta eat".

@__marc If you want both; you get GPU. No one has both GP and XBL as two separate subs.

@MetalGear_Yoshi i don't know man...i really enjoyed this game and I'm glad it has a PS5 upgrade alongside with a big expansion.
For me it's one of an underrated gems out there. But we're different

@naruball The did not pay. Microsoft just have a policy where you can't charge for next-gen upgrade. That's whole schtick with Smart Delivery.

It's easy. Greedfall on Series X/S and One is same product. Greedfall on PS4 and PS5 are two separate products because of Sony's way of doing this.

Well that is disappointing and has happened on a few occasions now. Any game that this happens with which I'm ready to play, I'll just get 2nd hand and claim the free ps5 version that way. I have a bunch of CEX store credit I can use. Hopefully this can be sorted out for the future.

@Richnj

What do you mean “already been paid” ?? do you think this is like a one off payment thing ? what r u talking about, its salary my friend.

As they were working on the ps5 upgrade, they were still getting paid to do that, So even though assets were already there, they were still getting paid for that. CEOs still hav to pay their developers.

and for the next two years while they work on another game before that even makes any profit, they need their salary.

ive never seen an industry like this where people like you complain about their favorite artists making money. Such a negative community.

@mousieone @__marc Actually, Gold is included with the GamesPass so you don't need to buy both at all. In fact, if you have a Gold subscription and you then purchase the GamePass, any months you have remaining on your Gold subscription are converted and added to your GamePass subscription...

GamesPass Ultimate enables you to have GamesPass on both the Xbox console and the PC (and also includes Gold).

@Gelly "its salary"

Exactly. Money given now does not go in to the dev's bank accounts. Whether you pay for this or not, the actual artists and hardworkers got their money.

Now, if you wanted to argue that money down now secures more development fundingg for future projects, then you'd have a better stance. But like I said, so much of that money gets siphoned off.

"people like you complain about their favorite artists making money"

If you were reading what I wrote, instead of strawmaning it, you'd know that I'm not upset they get paid, I'm upset that the artists don't get paid their fair share.

Having played about 15 hours after it was offered on plus, I can't say I care. With all due respect to the developers, the game has a lot of rough edges - including with core design decisions.