After almost two years of complete silence, FromSoftware's Elden Ring finally marked its return at Summer Game Fest: Kickoff Live with a brand new trailer and a release date. It will release on both PlayStation 5 and PS4 on 21st January 2022. Yes, it made its comeback and got a confirmed date all in one go! The game will support a free upgrade to the PS5 version if you buy it on PS4.
Rise, Tarnished, and be guided by grace to brandish the power of the Elden Ring and become an Elden Lord in the Lands Between. In the Lands Between ruled by Queen Marika the Eternal, the Elden Ring, the source of the Erdtree, has been shattered. Marika's offspring, demigods all, claimed the shards of the Elden Ring known as the Great Runes, and the mad taint of their newfound strength triggered a war: The Shattering. A war that meant abandonment by the Greater Will. And now the guidance of grace will be brought to the Tarnished who were spurned by the grace of gold and exiled from the Lands Between. Ye dead who yet live, your grace long lost, follow the path to the Lands Between beyond the foggy sea to stand before the Elden Ring.
As part of a press release, director Hidetaka Miyazaki said: "With ELDEN RING, we have applied all our dark fantasy and action-RPG expertise cultivated throughout the Dark Souls series, in order to create a bold, classical evolution of the genre. We've crafted a rich world with a staggering sense of scale, based off of legends written for the game by George R. R. Martin. ELDEN RING is a world full of mystery and peril, ready to be explored and discovered; a drama in which various characters flaunt their own mystique and ulterior motives. We sincerely hope you enjoy experiencing it for yourself."
Gameplay footage showcased just some of the world we can look forward to exploring, complete with some grotesque enemies and combat. Yup, it looks like a Souls game and we're all here for it. Share your hype in the comments below.
So this game actually exists
Why are people so hyped by this? Looks so generic and dull. Hard pass.
They could have just called it Dark Souls 4 to be honest. Looking good.
That horse straight up Hulk jumped over a mountain
Looks like more Dark Souls to me. But that's all I need baby. Let's go 😎😎🗡️🗡️⚔️⚔️
Not going to lie, was hoping for it to look less like Dark Souls.
Ok I now know when to keep my vacation leave for.
Looks amazing. Excited about it.
Well done Geoff. You did it. Huge respect for the man.
Great looking trailer! These games aren't for me but I'm super excited for everyone who's been looking forward to this! Hope it delivers for your all
Sitting through the whole event was so worth it just for the last 3 minutes
Elden Ring! In all its glory!
I like some of the monster designs. That is all.
Great trailer! Excited to learn more.
Incredible trailer, absolutely can't wait to see more.
It didn't blow me away, but that's par for the course with pre-release trailers for Miyazaki's games. They're never graphical showcases on the surface, but once you tuck into it yourself, and allow it to swallow you into its world, you soon realise you're playing another instant classic.
Also I think I've been a bit spoilt with DS remake's visuals that going back to FROM's Dark Souls engine feels like a graphical step back. I'm okay with it though; this is clearly far more ambitious in scale and scope (and maybe slightly hamstrung by last-gen consoles), therefore less room for finer polish. This will undoubtedly run at 60fps on PS5 though so no complaints from me
Oh yes, that looks damn fine!
The engine is starting to show it's age. Not blown away yet. Wake me up when the first true next-gen Souls game arrives.
Because everything looks the same these days. Rare to get special games that actually push the media forward.
@thehappyaerithch He's clearly not a Souls fan! To call this generic is particularly insulting. We don't even need trailers for FROM games to know it'll be incredible.
@Icey664 My biggest issue is that the animations and overall combat just feel super janky (Dark Souls, Bloodborne etc.)
The Surge 2 is an excellent example of a tough game with deep combat, but combat that is super polished, has lovely animations and that's a double A game!!
So this is newer than demon souls, yet it looks so last gen compared to it. Not overly appealed.
Looks so good. Hopefully they learn from some of their Dark Souls 3 mistakes 🙏 👍
Yea exactly, it's got that souls game jank which is a thing that just really puts me off those games. Also why does everything have to be so gothic looking, its such a tired art style in games these days.
The Demon's Souls remake is the only FromSoftware (I know Bluepoint remade it) game I've played and I really struggled with that, so I'm worried this is gonna be too difficult for me to really enjoy. Still, It looks epic and I can't wait to see more from it.
Looks like my GOTY is sorted for next year.
That trailer was absolutely amazing. Yeah it just looks like Dark Souls but no where near a bad thing. But i don't see what George RR Martin had to do with this. A lot of this just looks like the usual From comes up with
Finally, it looks like the game will be more of the same which is all I can ask for from my favourite game director.
@Divergent95 If you think the combat is janky it just means these games aren't for you or you haven't spent the time to get used to the systems. The whole point is the animations and combat is precisely worked out and methodical. Once you take the time to learn the move-sets and understand the timing you end up looking like a boss when you eventually get better at these games. Button mashing will get you nowhere.
@Icey664 Don't think we should criticize FromSoftware here, they'll rip us to shreds lol!
Jokes aside, for a supposed AAA production, it looks a bit dated graphics wise and the art style is a bit pretentious imo.
Great trailer with release date and averything. Day 1!
@Old-Red Hun, play The Surge 2 and then you'll understand why I can't get into that janky FromSoftware material. There's nothing better than locking on to a specific limb, doing damage to it and then slicing it off with a super satisfying animation : )
The trailer is really good, I hope the game is more like demon's souls and not like sekiro, can't wait for this
@Icey664 the pedigree. Everything Miyazaki has done since Demon's Souls has been top tier, and GRRM is incredible at world building. Hard yes for me, I can't see it not being in the running for GOTY for me, even if GOW releases in 2022
GOTY 2022 here I come.
It's a Soulsborne game alright!
Looks...alright, not sure why there has been so much hype about it but for fans of these types of games I'm sure they'll have a blast.
Was kind of hoping it might have ended up more like The Witcher 3 than Dark Souls. Still, enough games out there to suit all tastes.
One the one hand, it feels like they've blended elements of Dark Souls, Demons' Souls, and Bloodborne so it feels like it's retreading a lot of the same ground and that it maybe doesn't have its own individual identity like those other three. On the other hand...those are three excellent games and I guess you can't go wrong with a winning formula. As long as performance is solid at release I'm here for it.
Looks great. I'm just surprised Martin finished writing the story for this.
Souls, Bloodbrone and Sekiro all look similar at a glance but anyone who has played them knows they are vastly different games. We know next to nothing about how this game actually functions or how it’s lore is implemented. The music alone already has its own identity. I absolutely can not wait for what will surely be an incredible experience.
I’ve never played a Souls game but this look OK I guess. I’ll probably get Demon’s Souls on PS5 first but Im happy people will stop asking wheres Elden Ring on every showcase now lol
@Icey664 People would be hyped for any new Miyazaki Soulsborne game and any new George RR Martin fantasy. Combining the two really amplifies it.
@EquiinoxGII I was about to say this till I read your comment. lol
Man, I was stocked for this game when it was revealed, but seeing it in motion I was just bored. I hope the character we play as has a voice this time.
So much weirdness! I was afraid the GRRM collaboration was going to bring the game in line with Western fantasy aesthetics. Glad that wasn’t the case and the game is a full-on Berserk-esque fever dream.
Nobody can capture that sense of sublime horror, mystery, and wonder like From Software. I hope the final game can do that magic of playing Demon’s Souls and Dark Souls for the first time again.
@nessisonett Remains to be seen... there’s obviously a lot of Souls in this game, but we still have no idea how any of the systems work, how story and lore is presented, how the open world works, and what deviations to the “formula” ala Sekiro and Bloodborne are being made to distinguish this title. Notice there were no shields in the trailer. Might be aesthetic, but might be game design.
@Icey664 Generic? That’s hilarious. This is among the most unique looking open world games on the merits of the trailer alone.
Okay, I'm starting to see why people were hyped for this. It's looking pretty sweet.
@Col_McCafferty Depends what you want from the game. We were only just steeped in aesthetics and call-outs to Souls fans.
If you want a deep open world RPG with consequence, we still don’t know anything about the structure and systems of the game- you might yet get it. If you mean a quest list with point A to point B objectives, I doubt it.
Looks great, can’t wait to get genuinely lost in it. Hope there is no map and it’s so difficult I can’t complete it.
Feels like people are hyped just because of the names. The animation looked pretty janky and the context looks tired.
E3 can end now! I need nothing else from software has no equal
Yea I agree totally. I'm bored of this gothic/deamons art style, feels overused.
I do share peoples' views on the jank. But we all know that doesn't matter in these games. Artistry trumps technical prowess in my mind and these guys are the lords (pun intended) of art.
FROM have yet to put a foot wrong and I don't see them doing it again come January.
Guarantee it won't live up to the hype.
Elden ring and salt and sacrifice was the highlights of summer game fest.both games look amazing.word up son
@Spiders I guess I mean interesting characters and great scripts and more to it then just combat. It's a debate that can run and run but my hype for this game was never that big go begin with.
If you're a fan of these types of games I'm sure you'll enjoy it (GOTY though? Nah, far more likely contenders coming in '22) but I don't it will attract many newcomers to the Soulsborne genre. Maybe it doesn't have to and that's perfectly fine.
Welp, guess I know what'll be my first Platinum of next year (providing it releases on time)
Them boss designs have me salivating!
Elden Ring looks freaking amazing. Can't wait to play it next year.
@Col_McCafferty From Software games are the scaffolding of my GOAT list, so I expect I’ll enjoy it, and The Witcher 3 was a revelation for me - I never cared for Western RPGs before I played it and now I’m opened up to the genre.
I’m not exactly sure where the vin diagram is for Witcher/Souls, but for me it’s the rewarding exploration.
Elden Ring might literally be my Game Of The Year 2022- as in the only - after I pay for a PS5 and a new TV haha.
can't wait for vaatividya's breakdown of this trailer
Yep, looks like another Souls game. FromSoftware has been cranking them out with almost machine-like efficiency this last decade.
Well, I hope it's everything people wanted it to be, but I'll be passing on this.
Tbh, it looks pretty unimpressive after the rather visually stunning remake of Demons Souls on PS5.
Looks great although I'm not sure how the Souls formula will translate to an open world setup. That said From has certainly earned my trust at this point so I'll definitely give it a shot.
@Spiders I'm not saying it looks bad, far from it, just that I hoped with Martin's involvement it would be more like the aforementioned Witcher 3 or Skyrim than Dark Souls.
I guess they brought him onboard to write the lore and have an input in some of the creature designs than writing scripts and stuff.
It's going to be released the same year as behemoths like BotW 2 and God of War so I'd take a bet with anyone that it won't win most GotY awards. I'm sure those that dig these types of games will have a blast and are already counting down the days until they get to play it. Genuine enthusiasm for games on this site is a rare thing indeed so who am I pee to on anybody's chips.
Looks great, I recently got back to into Dark Souls 3 and am looking forward to this.
@Icey664 OoOooh I doubt you could even imagine it
too much anticipation and waiting for this for quite some time now, kinda not blown away at all... Looks ok. kinda sucks... weird feeling
@Col_McCafferty OOoooh you tragic thing ... I doubt you could even imagine it.
@Col_McCafferty I think that was the idea from the beginning- GRRM is writing the lore and world-building, but the story will still be relayed in the esoteric Miyazaki style... what I’m assuming anyway.
@Gorduras Eh? If you like these types of games then great, all I'm saying is I doubt this will attract anyone outside the converts.
Looks great but totally dark soulish. If they called it dark souls 4 without Martin would be the same....
I was expecting something different, more western medieval/fantasy to be fair...
@Col_McCafferty It was a joke maan, that´s a line from the first trailer whuch premiered on E3 2019 and they were quiet ever since which led a lot of us to believe the game wasn´t even real. I was just messing with you but meant no harm I´m just a mere hollow. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e5wwSxl0atc&ab_channel=FROMSOFTWAREFROMSOFTWARE
@Gorduras Oh man I'm so sorry. That completely escaped me!
I'll edit my original comment.
@Col_McCafferty Yeaah no problem man i just wrongly assumed you would get the reference ... It was a wild ride on the elden ring subreddit these two years we lost a lot of people to insanity lol
@Gorduras Well, you have an actual release date now so the waiting is almost over!
@Icey664 Agree. Nioh 2 does it better anyways 😏
Looks fun. As for the graphics, next-gen graphics are not the leap in quality from the previous generation. Sure, ray-tracing is cool, but I can't be too excited for it. That's just a personal preference on my end though. I just hope it has better parrying than Souls 3. I could never get the hang of it...
I really wanted to like that game, but its too hard for me 🤣
How many more times do the Demon's Souls/Dark Souls themes need to be retread by From Software? Bloodborne was incredible because it was so distinctly different to their other games. This just looks like a more lore heavy open world Dark Souls and that formula is really starting to run thin.
Souls fans (and me) : omg finally, shoot it into my veins now.
Everyone else: castles are boooooooring and knights are booooring and graphics are bad, swinging huge sword really slow and bad. I hate dark souls, is bad. This game will be bad.
Well, From know their audience by this point, they've been refining a particular formula and I doubt were ever gonna try to win over folks who never liked the way they do things.
@truerbluer I feel you. This feels like open world Dark Souls, 100%. I'm definitely still going to play - and likely enjoy - it, but I feel you. And where-the-flug is Armored Core?!!
@AllenSnyder haha I know! The games always feel so clunky and old.. as where demon souls was smooth and buttery. 100% need some voice acting.
Hated souls games; with a passion yet adored bloodborne / sekiro. Where will I stand on this?
@Ear_wiG I'll remain cautiously optimistic but must admit the open world aspect is worrying especially because what I like about their other games is the interconnected level design. I fear the open world will just be a big field to traverse to different locations and probably fight enemies along the way.
Yes it looks like more Dark Souls..... But it will be out almost six years since Dark Souls 3. It's hardly like we're drowning in them. (Sekiro and Bloodborne are their own beasts and imitators are just that.)
@truerbluer Knight of Tsushima?
@Col_McCafferty Man wouldn't that have been amazing! TW3 is easily in my top 5 games of all time.
I hope that working with Martin will give this game a bit more texture than the Souls games. I enjoyed the Souls series, primarily for the feeling of exploring the levels the first time through, the art design, and the combat, but the games felt a bit one note for me. I think the reason why is that they were billed as Action RPGs but were really just action games, with light RPG elements. The build diversity was extremely low, in many games the gear you wore literally had no impact on the game, and you knew that no matter what you encountered, it was going to be a hostile monster. I always wanted to see something with a more dynamic RPG world like the Elder Scrolls series, but with the art design and combat of a Souls game. I was hoping Elden Ring might be that but we'll have to wait and see.
Hi there fellow gamers.
It´s real..... It is actualy a reality..... And there is a release date......
Am I dreaming?
It looks and feels as crazy, weird, beautiful and terrifying as i have hoped it looked and felt.
A open world Souls game.....
The mad lads did it.
January 21 is going to be glorious.
And E3 hasn´t even started yet.
Boy, do I love this particular time of the year.
Cheers, stay safe folks and happy gaming to us all
looks great. anyone know if this is another souls-like or is fromsoftware going in a different direction? i do hope it is more action oriented, less strategic and dependent on pattern recognition and more forgiving compared to the souls games.
@Divergent95 Oh man, if you think the Surge 2 isn't janky especially when compared Dark Souls or Bloodborne then it's super clear you don't know what you're talking about! Lmao
my most anticipated game in a long while
Looks fantastic, now just need vaativydia to explain it to me
Game looks awesome although it dosnt look as though its going to make the ps5 break a sweat but hopefully native 4k @ 60fps should be easy..why do people complain about having more souls type games? How many final fantasys have been released? Nobody complains about those being pretty much the same in fact they always get treated like gaming royalty..people want souls games..i want souls games...i need souls games..
@JB_Whiting I dunno. I’m being skeptical. I hated Sekiro, and Bloodborne never pulled me in the way Demons/Dark Souls did. The trailer looks good, but I’m getting kind sick of hearing chosen undead/cursed one/ashen one and now “tarnished.” Would have been nice if they laid off that, makes the games feel too recycled.
@Northern_munkey Actually, people complain about final fantasy all the time. When I spoke up about FF15 on Kotaku, Gamespot or IGN, I got my head damn near chopped off lol
If it has more of a traditional narrative and is more respectful of my time (regular save points) then I’m absolutely interested. But then it won’t be a souls game and many people will be disappointed I think.
@Wilkens You sound like you either haven’t played a Souls game, haven’t beaten a Souls game, or haven’t played one in years.
So excited! Can’t wait to play it!
This looks great. I can definitely see this being another FromSoftware game I buy because I really want to like it, but can never get anywhere close to finishing it!
looks great! It's been in development for a long time, so don't expect next-gen graphics, especially from From
I am shocked... seriously is 2021 this is the trailer they went with? WTF? I hated (with a passion) Bloodborne, but I doffed my hat to From for being true to themselves. However, this seriously looked like at best like an early PS4 game (or even worse). The game itself may be ok, but this is amazingly lacklustre at the dawn of a new gaming generation. It almost doesn't even look like last gen (sorry to say it, but compared to Demon Souls... big miss). What is going on here?
@thefourfoldroot I agree. Had the original Demon Souls on the PS3 and just didn't grab me and haven't been back to the nigh-impossible combat games again. And, to me, calling these an action RPG is a bit of a stretch?
Hoped that with GRRM on board it might feature an in depth narrative but doesn't look anything more than a Dark Souls style title.
@Bliquid yes it's bound for PS4... so does that mean you don't advertise the best it will be (rather than try to make it look like a tired last-last-gen game?). If this is where FromSoftware are at (after even Sekiro), then I'm deeply worried for their future. The game may be great - though perhaps not for me - but it had zero impact for me. Then again, I suspect they could release just about anything to the hardcore From Software fans (and I hope they do enjoy it, if that comes across as too nasty).
@Spiders can you please explain - what is RPG about the Souls games? I am (genuinely) curious, as I don't see anything in any of their games that really gives player agency for their meaningful development (other than combat load-outs). I perhaps don't play them enough to know (so it may be a noob question).
@JB_Whiting - you don't need trailers to know it's absolutely amazing?... seriously, even a fan shouldn't say that. It's that blind faith that is a cancer in the games industry (no matter which dev you're talking about... CDPR anyone?)
@LivewireCLS Presumably you have a PS5, in which case you should definitely check out Bloodborne. From's masterpiece, and pretty sure it's free in the ps+ collection. You may well struggle to start with, but if you keep at it the reward is definitely there
Damn... Now I wanna play this game
It screams Miyazaki all over the design, which is a very good thing.
It's clearly Dark Souls inspired and not Bloodborne (too bad for me, as i really like the combat style from the latter as opposed to the former... but screw it, i'll play it anyway).
Hell, it even has a damned ladder at 1:04, on which the character doesn't seem to move that fast... Miyazaki's signature it seems
They presented all kinds of weapons : one handed sword or spear plus shield, two handed swords and hammers, a staff at 2:24 - 2:28 that seems to have a changeable magical end (as it changes into a glaive, or a scepter even a wand i think an 2:28). Cool!
As an observation... Is it just me or it lacks some feeling of impact when a hit connects in some scenes? I hope they solve this for the final release.
Looks whatever. For some reason I thought this was like a different thing. I don't know why. I must not have been paying attention the first time round. It just looks like another Souls.
@Oz_Momotaro They have literally yet to make a bad game, so I'm basing my hype on previous experiences; call it blind faith if you will, but my body is ready.
Still haven't got into the souls games or Bloodborne. This looks a little more open with it's terrain, though, so might be tempted to try it when it goes cheaper.
@Foxy-Goddess-Scotchy hey, sorry something seems up with the forums so I couldn't reply to you there (or even post) so I thought in the short term, this would be the most appropriate place to get back to you.
So the main thrust of my post was just that if people had researched the project during its development, they shouldn't be surprised by how similar Elden Ring is to Dark Souls. As far as I've seen (& I read everything they put out), the majority of which I included in my post, FromSoft pretty much set expectations spot on by their admittedly brief and sporadic press releases.
And don't worry at all about dampening my enthusiasm for it... it honestly looks like exactly what I wanted and was expecting.
@Oz_Momotaro I don't really think of the Souls games as RPGs but rather as adventure games, but for people who do it's the ability to create a character and build their stats for different weapons and playstyles. There are also quests and side-quest chains, but they are not explicit or given a checklist.
There is plenty of player agency, and meaningful choice in Souls games but again, it's not explicit. It's not done in dialogue trees or binary morality or anything like that. For example, you can anger and even kill every NPC in the game which can affect how other NPCs treat you, what quests are and are not available to you, and even the environment in some cases. The game will let you fail and miss just about every event in the game, which I think is a very true, if brutal form of player agency. Demon's Souls had a World Tendency system which alters the map and enemies based on your choices in the area. Dark Souls has covenants which a player can enter that have different motivations that are tasked to hunt real players or can be summoned to defend an area.
There is no character development or anything like that. The story in Souls is really always about the world, not the player, with the exception of Sekiro.
Like I said, I don't think of them as RPGs, but as an adventure game. My first experience with Demon's Souls reminded me of the first Zelda game - Dark Souls moreso. Bloodborne feels almost like a 3D version of Castlevania: SotN, and Sekiro drops most of the RPG conventions for a more "pure" adventure aesthetic.
In short, as far as RPG qualities in Souls games, I think you get out what you put in. There's plenty of elements that can scratch those itches even if they are not made explicit, and probably more so than a lot of games billed as RPGs.
I don't know why you're asking me - I don't think I ever said they were RPGs - but I'm always happy to talk about some of my favorite games:)
Looks very much in the vein of previous FromSoft games but that is 100% fine by me. From a technical standpoint it's not on Demon's Souls PS5 levels of quality, but the art direction and actual gameplay is absolutely top drawer as usual and ohmygosh it just looks incredible. Can't wait, glad it's not too far away!
@HunkyJunk It depends why you hate one series and love the other two games... Bloodborne and Sekiro are my favorite From Software games, but the caveat is I love the Souls games as well (save DS2).
As far as the aesthetic goes, this game is obviously going to be more like the Souls series - enough that people are claiming it is "just Dark Souls with horses", but this is exactly the kind of stuff people said about Sekiro and BB. We have no idea how the systems or structure of the game is, what the primary loop is like, what new mechanics are in or what has been dropped.
I think the combat is going to be more in line with BB/Sekiro. If nothing else, ending the Dark Souls series meant they can drop as much baggage as they like.
Personally all the From games have the elements I love - exploration, mystery, discovery, consequences, and astonishment - but Bloodborne, and more so Sekiro, drop a lot of the RPG elements I'm not really into.
Why do you prefer one to the other?
@Constable_What Umm it isn't? I played a little bit of DS III and Bloodborne and The Surge 2 felt superior in every way. Far smoother combat and stuff.
No wonder people hate the DS community. Nobody can say one bad thing without being attacked...
@Divergent95 I'm not attacking you, I just thought it was funny what you said.
I've played through the Surge 2 as well as all of the Souls games. I even try out terrible Souls-likes because I hate myself. lol
If you really want to talk janky, and neglect to mention the horrible boss fights of the Surge 2....I mean come on! Lmao!
And yeah, only a little bit of Dark Souls 3 and Bloodborne. I get it. You just don't like it when you can't cancel animations. That's fair. Doesn't mean it's janky though. Just means you need to commit to a button press if you don't want to take a punishing hit.
Animation canceling doesn't save the Surge 2's bosses.
Fighting everything else is fun, even (surprisingly easy, but I'm grateful it's almost never frustrating.) groups of enemies, but when the camera actively says screw you for any boss bigger than you. Yeah no, yeah that's not jank or anything... And don't even get me started on the overall tone and atmosphere of the game. Inconsistent to the least. I don't want to go too hard on character and enemy animations, because it is a AA game, but when everything walks around like they have a ten pound duke in their jumpsuit...lol...that's all I'll say.
Also, no one cares if anyone hates the Souls "community". I do not identify with that community, but I bet just like all "communities" no one hates the Souls community like the Souls community.
I think when you look at this trailer and then compare it to the Demon Souls remake, it's quite clear: developing for last gen in tandem with current, absolutely holds the new generation back.
If the ps5 version is anything less than 4k 60 standard running seemlessly, with this graphical level we see in the trailer, it would be laughable.
@Constable_What Hun, I get it. You love FromSoft games and you love their substance. I respect it!
Buut, please be realistic and admit that the animations and overall feel of the combat SUCKS AS* (quite outdated)
And again, I finished The Surge 2 twice and I adored the stamina based, challenging, brutal gameplay. It took the formula of DS and made it better.
As for the bosses, I haven't heard a single complaint in that department.
I found them to be super tough, especially Little Johnny and the Nanite Monster.
@Spiders yea I hope it’s a bit snappier I don’t want another suit of armour weighing me down. Action / exploration orientated don’t have time anymore for the RPG elements frankly Demons Souls bummed me out; only souls game I tried to persist with if only to justify the price. Came to resent it very much bloodborne and sekiro on the other hand I felt were amazing, with great worlds to explore.
@Divergent95 it's not realistic at all to be blatantly wrong though. I'd be lying then.
The bosses in the Surge 2 do really suck. They're not challenging at all, but they are really tedious. Definitely a step up from the first game though.
It's just opinions though. The Surge 2 didn't do anything better than Dark Souls as far as fact goes. Its just different.
@Divergent95 I found it really dissapointing the Surge 2 for me and Demon Souls is superior in every way even the old one. 🤪
@KundaliniRising333 You forget one big thing the Demon Souls was build for the PS5 one platform thats also a big factor it also has to work on other platforms like Xbox
@HunkyJunk I have a lot more patience for it than you, but yeah I agree. Sekiro felt like a burden was lifted from the formula.
I have a feeling the stats and weapons will be very much a part of the game, but combat so far looks like an evolution of all their games. It looks like there’s a jump button like Sekiro, some crazy dashing, and a horse-ox mount you can summon that has some crazy maneuverability as well. They also didn’t show any shields, although the leaked footage did that might have either changed since then or they wanted to highlight the more modern combat styles.
I’m hoping there’s something for you!
@KundaliniRising333 It very funny that the contrast here is Demon’s Souls is lauded as the next-gen game and Elden Ring is literally the 6th generation of Demon’s Souls.
I think we’re all being “held back” by this graphical specs = innovation mentality. Elden Ring is a PS4/XB1 game and PS5 will probably be the best place to play it. It’s not being held back, it’s being accelerated by next-gen hardware. This cross-gen meme is embarrassing.
Lol, if you think hardware limitations only hold back visuals, you are clearly being shortsighted hear. These limit all aspects of game development.
Ai, asset streaming, memory allocation, game design, fps, atmosphere, and so much more.
I'm a lover of the soulslike games as much as anyone, but not to the point of being blinded and unable to be objective. Nor does this game look like an innovative leap from the trailer. It looks like more recycling of story and gameplay mechanics that Fromsoft has done throughout all of their games.
So spare me the fanboy attacks toward a fan that simply hoped they actually would innovate and move forward.
@Spiders Yup, that's exactly how I felt and can't get my head round the comments on here saying it looks a bit "meh". I was afraid that Martin's involvement would dilute Miyazaki's genius, warped and twisted imagination. This looks to me a From Software and Miyazaki game through and through, only on a larger and more ambitious scale with flashy graphics and upgraded tech.
We've had the Soulsborne wannabes now it time for the Soulsborne creators to show how it's done. I literally cannot wait. - strange timing for the release though, I'd have thought they'd release in December for the Xmas market...
@Spiders thanks for your very good - and honest - response. For me, having only experienced the very early parts of Bloodborne (I gave up well past my enjoying the experience) - I really didn't find it at all like an RPG. While there were alternative paths through the world, this felt to me more like being a mouse in a maze, rather than role-playing (it's kinda in the name RPG). Changing loadouts IMHO only changed combat style... that's not role-playing in my book at least. However, people keep saying it's an action RPG... but Bloodborne really put me off trying any other From Software games (so I really don't know how it compares).
So I really appreciated your commentary - thanks - that makes a lot more sense for me now. I think I would agree that they sound like adventure games... but I think everyone falls into a different definition/expectation.
@JB_Whiting I'm totally with you (in terms of someone enjoying the games). My experience is limited only to Bloodborne (which I didn't enjoy). However, my comment was literally my first reaction to seeing the trailer... and it just felt like an old game... Perhaps it was the flashbacks to Shadow of the Colossus remake... it looked 'ok'... but was clearly made on top of an old foundation (the game is what 12+ years old?). There was just something about the trailer that just underwhelmed me - but I'm fully accepting that it might be a classic game for fans of FS games.
The myth and legends is finally real, and with a solid release date to boot!
In all seriousness I'm happy this happened for those that will get it day one...however I suck at Souls-esque games so will wait a few years for a big 50-75% off sale.
@BloodNinja I have played all of them but Bloodborne. Thankfully, since I posted this comment, we have learned much more about Elden Ring and it looks like From Software has made many of the changes I wanted to see. They are calling it an open world game (unlike their previous linear games) and have said there is going to be much greater emphasis on character build diversity and complex RPG elements. This is both welcome and signals an acknowledgement of the limitations of their previous games, and where they could improve. It looks like they are on the right course.
@JB_Whiting that's fine - From games aren't my thing, so I don't have that hunger. I just looked at the trailer and thought it was a weaker Demon Soul's games (which was still a last-last gen game made up to look nice). I appreciate that FS aren't selling games for their technical capabilities, so I hope you enjoy it.
@Wilkens I sure hope so. I couldn’t get into Bloodborne or Sekiro, but I love the souls series. Hopefully Elden is good.
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