I don't think the PS5 Pro enhancements will be much beyond a bit of extra RT and a resolution bump/using PSSR. If you are on a base PS5 or Series X, you won't feel like you are missing out on much. The next-gen/PC versions are the ones that will get better FPS.
Short-term pain for long-term gain. It will take years to undo what the previous leadership did to the brand, but at least they are trying. On the Xbox earnings call, the declines have actually slowed which is a sign the huge ship is slowly turning around. I would not expect any positive growth for another 2-3 years, though. With console prices increasing, alll platform holders have and will consitne to see a decrease of console sales outside of the Zelda/GTA bubble.
Bringing this game to Sony would not have made much difference, whereas keeping Forza or Fable off would have left a lot of sales on the table.
@RoomWithaMoose My PS4 Pro sounded like a Jet Engine despite cleaning it (and having to replace the thermal paste too many times). Both my PS3 and PS5 also had thermal paste issues and much louder fans than, say, the Xbox Series consoles (looking at you, Foxxcom).
Sony's machines have always had heavy use/long term issues with their thermals, tbh, especially the original designs. On a PlayStation fan site, some will be overly protective of PlayStation hardware regardless of the flaws that mass-produced consoles in their early-to-mid production runs bring up. This is an echo chamber you will not escape lol
@ Alpine, despite presenting you with factual information, which you (and anyone else) can choose to go and view, you seemingly decide to let your bias dictate your opinions. There is no point in continuing this discussion.
They are selling out this month. Sales were 27% down last month in the US. We are in late October, not September.
I work for a large toy/gaming company in the UK. Our Series X's have been selling out across stores and the online warehouse over the last 2 weeks. We have had good replenishments too. It's because our PS5s and PS5 Pros have been sold out.
Competitors like Argos and Amazon are completely out of stock of Series X's for the same reason. All consoles including across Xbox and PS5 are expected to be high selling though the rest of the year due to GTA 6.
I do believe the big sports games, COD, and GTA 6 are big drivers in Q4 sales (OCT-DEC).
The sales of PS5 have not been a problem, as the prices were, and still are to a degree, relatively affordable to most middle-income and above earners. The PS5 also has the good brand resonance of the PS4 to keep in mindshare.
The real issue is the degradation of the brand. Not even the removal of discs (which most don't care about in 2026), but more the removal of options, raised questions about ownership, dynamic pricing, restricted offerings of digital games outside PSN, the removal of the rewards programs, Concord, and the seemingly over-milked IPs and "safe" formulaic games that have sold sometimes as much as 50% less than their PS3/4 counterparts (A Herman Hulst Issue). The 30-day digital licence thing was another one. The recent jailbreak adds to the issues right now.
Then there is the move away from "warm fun" Sony to a more closed-off, "cold and uncommunicative" Sony. They used to make jokes about game sharing. Now people make jokes about them.
Sure, we operate in a bit of a bubble, but brand resonance cuts through to the masses. Look at Xbox One. After 360, it should have been a home run. "Casuals" don't absorb the negative news and presentations, right? We have seen that not to be the case.
The degradation happens slowly, with one controversy after another, building to the point that it comes out of enthusiast circles and into the mainstream.
It happened off the back of the PS2 gen, where Sony got overly complacent and gave Xbox 360 a huge sales advantage.
We have seen Xbox and Nintendo also badly mess up and spend years clawing back brand resonance and market share to varying degrees of success.
It feels like Sony is in that PS2 gen now. Profits galore now, but with what is expected to be the most expensive console ever and degrading brand resonance, PS6 could represent a real decline in what matters most to Sony - Profits.
I said once the PS5s have sold out everyone will be rushing to buy an Xbox to play the game as we get close to launch (as there will be no other option)
On a slightly different topic - The PS+ 5% discount for UK players has now been extended by 1 year to 31/03/28. I wonder if that means the PS6 will be pushed back to late 2028, like the Xbox Helix, with the handhelds out next year.
Original article below from Nov 2025 with the original end date in T&C's.
It's because of GTA6. PS5s are sold out almost everywhere in the UK as people rush to get a PS5 after the recent marketing by Sony. Even Xbox's are selling out now.
Played the Demo to judge for myself. It turns out to be one of the better-polished driving simulators. The demo is well optimised on PS5, and it looks good graphically. The writing isn't amazing. But amusing at times. The game mechanics look interesting and show a lot of promise. The car physics are surprisingly good.
I think the game could sell reasonably well based on that Demo showing.
The game itself has no obvious signs of gen AI. It mixes AI and non-AI radio stations, which are clearly marked.
For what I can tell, the game does not "heavily use" AI. If you gave it to anyone and told them there was no AI in it, most people would believe you.
For those who have passed judgment without trying the demo, I ask: were you even interested in the first place? The demo lets everyone give the game a fair shot before passing judgment based on a buzzword. If you don't like it after, then that's fair because you saw the actual game for yourself and decided on that information.
The core audience for FC and Cod isn't here, it's the millions of casual gaming fans that are not engaged with gaming media but will see the new release and buy the game.
With a month gap until GTA 6 and that time to fill for many casual fans, it should land as the 2nd or 3rd highest selling game of the year by the end of 2026.
I would worry a little for Housemarque based on the sales numbers. Sony doesn't seem to have the money to bail them out. If they get another shot at a game, it won't be anything like this. They will be lucky if it isn't a live service project.
South of Midnight won a few awards, but it did not save them, sadly.
@Trojan, I was talking about console exclusives in relation to this article; it states:
“Imagine it was announced that all future title releases from every Xbox-developed gaming franchise except Call of Duty will be console exclusive to Xbox. For Minecraft only, existing titles would no longer be available for purchase on PlayStation or Nintendo consoles, and would not receive any new content updates. However, there is no impact to any of the existing titles or content you already own. Nothing changes on PC in this announcement.”
I don't expect Xbox to step back from the PC space, considering the next Xbox will, in some form, be a PC.
@SleepyNick, I think it is reasonable to point out that Push Square has a scoring methodology that most times (not always) tends to score non-PlayStation games lower than average scores and PS5 games higher than average scores.
@Max_the_German Sony and Xbox can barely keep up with making new consoles (PS5's and Xbox's are selling out everywhere in the UK right now). They will be more worried about keeping up with demand at the moment, as consoles will be by far the cheaper way to play GTA 6.
@VenomUK Yeah, Matt Ball is very pro-exclusives and was highly critical of Phil Spencer and Sarah Bonds' move to everything multiplat.
He was brought in to rebuild brand resonance, as Sony has, and it seems to be working, with a report suggesting a 30% uptick in positive brand resonance for Xbox since the start of the year.
I enjoyed the game, but I can see why others might not. I am sure Sony will be hoping to get some more sales from Black Friday onwards and will hope to get back at least the same amount of money invested over the next year. I expect any plans for a sequel or DLC have been canned, and the team will be moved onto Spider-Man 3, Venom, or another new project.
I can imagine Spider-Man 3 will be beefed up as a safe bet, and Venom will be scaled back or cancelled.
@Grumblevolcano They'll keep Fable in Feb, as Forza and Fable will be a month apart, and there is little fanbase crossover. PC will generate the most sales for Fable over Xbox console or PS5 anyways.
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Re: South of Midnight's Director Wouldn't Have Funded It, Says Xbox's Approach Was Unsustainable
Looks like David Sears has some accountability for the failure of the game, then. It's not surprising Asha sent them packing.
Re: These 28+ PS5 and PS Plus Games Are Coming Out This Week (2nd-8th November)
Zelda this week and GTA 6 on the 19th; the rest get the crumbs.
Re: Rumour: Alleged Persona 1 Remake Gameplay Leaks Online
Looks good! But we want Persona 6 first before any more remakes come out.
Re: New GTA 6 Gameplay, Screenshots, Details Revealed as PS5 Launch Nears
I don't think the PS5 Pro enhancements will be much beyond a bit of extra RT and a resolution bump/using PSSR. If you are on a base PS5 or Series X, you won't feel like you are missing out on much. The next-gen/PC versions are the ones that will get better FPS.
Re: 'It Hasn't Made Any Difference': Gears of War PS5 Cancellation Fails to Boost Xbox
Short-term pain for long-term gain. It will take years to undo what the previous leadership did to the brand, but at least they are trying. On the Xbox earnings call, the declines have actually slowed which is a sign the huge ship is slowly turning around. I would not expect any positive growth for another 2-3 years, though. With console prices increasing, alll platform holders have and will consitne to see a decrease of console sales outside of the Zelda/GTA bubble.
Bringing this game to Sony would not have made much difference, whereas keeping Forza or Fable off would have left a lot of sales on the table.
Re: PS5 Revives Retro Transparent Hardware with 3 New Gorgeous Accessory Colours
Yeah, these look good! Might be the best limited edition dualsense/cover combo to date!
Mercifully, they aren't out until Feb, so I can get GTA 6 DualSense in Nov.
Re: Microsoft Gives Dishonored Dev More Time to Find a Buyer, Needs a Partner to Finish Blade
While not ideal, it's certainly a lot better than how Sony has been dealing with studio closures this gen (looking at you, Herman Hulst).
Hopefully Arkane Lyon finds a buyer, but there seems to be a struggle with the expensive Marvel IP to contend with.
Re: Sony's PS6 Handheld May Be More Capable Than Every Other Device on the Market
@RoomWithaMoose My PS4 Pro sounded like a Jet Engine despite cleaning it (and having to replace the thermal paste too many times). Both my PS3 and PS5 also had thermal paste issues and much louder fans than, say, the Xbox Series consoles (looking at you, Foxxcom).
Sony's machines have always had heavy use/long term issues with their thermals, tbh, especially the original designs. On a PlayStation fan site, some will be overly protective of PlayStation hardware regardless of the flaws that mass-produced consoles in their early-to-mid production runs bring up. This is an echo chamber you will not escape lol
Re: Round Up: Modern Warfare 4 Is the Highest-Rated Call of Duty in 15 Years
This one is shaping up to sell a lot stronger this year, too. It will probably end up being the right choice for MS to take it off Game Pass.
Re: Phantom Blade Zero (PS5) - One of the Generation's Greatest Action Experiences
With Zelda and GTA 6 this close, I don't know if I will have enough time. It does look really good, though. And it is not a soulslike, which is great.
Re: PS5 Beats Switch 2 in Strongest US Sales Month Since May 2025
@ Alpine, despite presenting you with factual information, which you (and anyone else) can choose to go and view, you seemingly decide to let your bias dictate your opinions. There is no point in continuing this discussion.
Re: PS5 Beats Switch 2 in Strongest US Sales Month Since May 2025
@Alpine
They are selling out this month. Sales were 27% down last month in the US. We are in late October, not September.
I work for a large toy/gaming company in the UK. Our Series X's have been selling out across stores and the online warehouse over the last 2 weeks. We have had good replenishments too. It's because our PS5s and PS5 Pros have been sold out.
Competitors like Argos and Amazon are completely out of stock of Series X's for the same reason. All consoles including across Xbox and PS5 are expected to be high selling though the rest of the year due to GTA 6.
Re: PS5 Answers 'Bleakest' Month with a 22% Upswing in Sales
I do believe the big sports games, COD, and GTA 6 are big drivers in Q4 sales (OCT-DEC).
The sales of PS5 have not been a problem, as the prices were, and still are to a degree, relatively affordable to most middle-income and above earners. The PS5 also has the good brand resonance of the PS4 to keep in mindshare.
The real issue is the degradation of the brand. Not even the removal of discs (which most don't care about in 2026), but more the removal of options, raised questions about ownership, dynamic pricing, restricted offerings of digital games outside PSN, the removal of the rewards programs, Concord, and the seemingly over-milked IPs and "safe" formulaic games that have sold sometimes as much as 50% less than their PS3/4 counterparts (A Herman Hulst Issue). The 30-day digital licence thing was another one. The recent jailbreak adds to the issues right now.
Then there is the move away from "warm fun" Sony to a more closed-off, "cold and uncommunicative" Sony. They used to make jokes about game sharing. Now people make jokes about them.
Sure, we operate in a bit of a bubble, but brand resonance cuts through to the masses. Look at Xbox One. After 360, it should have been a home run. "Casuals" don't absorb the negative news and presentations, right? We have seen that not to be the case.
The degradation happens slowly, with one controversy after another, building to the point that it comes out of enthusiast circles and into the mainstream.
It happened off the back of the PS2 gen, where Sony got overly complacent and gave Xbox 360 a huge sales advantage.
We have seen Xbox and Nintendo also badly mess up and spend years clawing back brand resonance and market share to varying degrees of success.
It feels like Sony is in that PS2 gen now. Profits galore now, but with what is expected to be the most expensive console ever and degrading brand resonance, PS6 could represent a real decline in what matters most to Sony - Profits.
Re: Thai Rapper Lisa's 'Tarantino' Music Video Squeezes in PS5 Product Placement
@LogicStrikesAgain Push Square/Pure Xbox & Nintendo Life comment sections can be like their own little version of Twitter lol
Re: PS5 Beats Switch 2 in Strongest US Sales Month Since May 2025
@Alpine You didn't read what I said
I said once the PS5s have sold out everyone will be rushing to buy an Xbox to play the game as we get close to launch (as there will be no other option)
I'm talking about now not last month.
Re: PS5 Beats Switch 2 in Strongest US Sales Month Since May 2025
On a slightly different topic - The PS+ 5% discount for UK players has now been extended by 1 year to 31/03/28. I wonder if that means the PS6 will be pushed back to late 2028, like the Xbox Helix, with the handhelds out next year.
Original article below from Nov 2025 with the original end date in T&C's.
New date is on the updated PS Direct UK store.
https://www.pushsquare.com/news/2025/11/ps-plus-members-in-the-uk-now-get-money-off-purchases-from-playstation-direct
Re: PS Plus Members in the UK Now Get Money Off Purchases from PlayStation Direct
The scheme has been extended by a year to 31/03/28. I wonder if this means PS6 will be pushed into 2028, like the Xbox Helix.
Re: PS5 Beats Switch 2 in Strongest US Sales Month Since May 2025
It's because of GTA6. PS5s are sold out almost everywhere in the UK as people rush to get a PS5 after the recent marketing by Sony. Even Xbox's are selling out now.
The GTA 6 Hurricane is approaching soon.
Re: Promising Sci-Fi RPG Exodus Changes Its Main Character's Face After Fan Criticism
Shame you can't customise your character, that's one of the main things people want in a space themed RPG.
Re: 3 Hours with Stranger Than Heaven Left Me Partly Convinced, Partly Concerned, and Craving Gyudon
I, for one, am glad they are adding difficulty settings, so I can reduce the sponginess.
The story looks fresh and unique, so we can't say RGG is playing it safe.
Re: Xbox to Slash Even More Jobs This Month, with Further Cuts in November and January
If we don't get a healthy Xbox in the future, we will get
More of Sony's complacency
More of Herman Hulst pushing live service flops
More stripping of rewards, like the removal of PS stars
Taking away buying options from players
Increasing prices as a monopoly takes effect.
Making players wait years to play AAA single-player games from the same old IPs.
We need Xbox to provide competition to keep PlayStation at its best, like it did in the late PS3 and PS4 gen when it believed Xbox was competition.
If competition fails, we get the worst outcome.
Re: Worried About PS6 Price? Next Xbox Could Be as Much as $1,800
Wonder if that means PS6 will also drop in 2028, or will they be brave enough to launch alone?
Hopefully no console drops until 2028 tbh, there is no rush
Re: A New PlayStation Promo Suggests Sony's Bought the Kena IP from Ember Lab
Could be an IP purchase or a licensing agreement, hard to say at this point.
Re: JRPG Villion: Code Adds to the Insanity of PS5's January Release Schedule
I'm not sure if this will be among the top sellers, tbh, given it looks particularly niche and is from Idea Factory.
Re: 'Campaign Is Easily Top Three': Modern Warfare 4's Early User Reviews Are Shockingly Positive
Well, if you are planning on porting a COD to the Switch 2 or keeping it off Game Pass this year, this is certainly a good entry to do that with.
Re: A Demo for Rideshare "Stimulator", Saber's AI-Filled Driving Sim, Is Available Now on PS5
Played the Demo to judge for myself. It turns out to be one of the better-polished driving simulators. The demo is well optimised on PS5, and it looks good graphically. The writing isn't amazing. But amusing at times. The game mechanics look interesting and show a lot of promise. The car physics are surprisingly good.
I think the game could sell reasonably well based on that Demo showing.
The game itself has no obvious signs of gen AI. It mixes AI and non-AI radio stations, which are clearly marked.
For what I can tell, the game does not "heavily use" AI. If you gave it to anyone and told them there was no AI in it, most people would believe you.
For those who have passed judgment without trying the demo, I ask: were you even interested in the first place? The demo lets everyone give the game a fair shot before passing judgment based on a buzzword. If you don't like it after, then that's fair because you saw the actual game for yourself and decided on that information.
Re: PlayStation Celebrates 30 Years of Gran Turismo with a Stunning PS5 Controller
The joke of more controllers than exclusives is becoming a reality.
Re: Sony's Multi-Million Dollar GTA 6 PS5 Marketing Strategy Is Already Working
Who is this ITakeSpeed?
Re: PS5 JRPG Atelier Karia Adding GTA San Andreas-Style Weight Mechanic After Overwhelming Fan Vote
People can prepare in GTA 6 before playing this game lol
Re: 'Call of Duty Tax' Blamed for Softer CoD Reception by Marketing Lead
The core audience for FC and Cod isn't here, it's the millions of casual gaming fans that are not engaged with gaming media but will see the new release and buy the game.
With a month gap until GTA 6 and that time to fill for many casual fans, it should land as the 2nd or 3rd highest selling game of the year by the end of 2026.
Re: JRPG-Inspired Edge of Memories Ducks GTA 6, Delayed to a 'Quieter Period' on PS5
I wouldn't say early December will be much quieter, tbh.
GTA 6 will dominate the majority of sales for the rest of the year, and Zelda will take care of the Nintendo only fans.
Also be mindful that Nacon is in a lot of trouble financially at the moment, so this game could be affected post-update-wise.
Re: PS5's Saros Already an Official Award Winner
I would worry a little for Housemarque based on the sales numbers. Sony doesn't seem to have the money to bail them out. If they get another shot at a game, it won't be anything like this. They will be lucky if it isn't a live service project.
South of Midnight won a few awards, but it did not save them, sadly.
Re: PS5 Pro Easily the Best Place to Play The Witcher 3 Remastered on Console, Finds Digital Foundry
The most powerful console has the best performance? No way! lol
If you can get the Pro even at RRP, it still has a good price-to-performance ratio.
Re: Xbox Polling Players on Whether Fallout, Elder Scrolls, or Even Minecraft Should Go Exclusive
@Trojan, I was talking about console exclusives in relation to this article; it states:
“Imagine it was announced that all future title releases from every Xbox-developed gaming franchise except Call of Duty will be console exclusive to Xbox. For Minecraft only, existing titles would no longer be available for purchase on PlayStation or Nintendo consoles, and would not receive any new content updates. However, there is no impact to any of the existing titles or content you already own. Nothing changes on PC in this announcement.”
I don't expect Xbox to step back from the PC space, considering the next Xbox will, in some form, be a PC.
Re: Xbox Polling Players on Whether Fallout, Elder Scrolls, or Even Minecraft Should Go Exclusive
I have no issues with Xbox, PlayStation, or Nintendo having exclusive games tbh.
It's up to each business how they operate, and then the consumers will decide the market afterwards.
Re: Xbox Polling Players on Whether Fallout, Elder Scrolls, or Even Minecraft Should Go Exclusive
@Wiceheid These days, MS's main product is actually Azure - Windows is now one of the smaller business segments.
Re: 9 PS Plus Extra, Premium Games for October 2026 Announced
A decent month there overall, I would say
Re: Study Finds Almost Half of PS5 Disc Backlash Came from Fake Accounts
The worst ones are using AI images to make a point.
Half of Twitter is probably bots these days.
Re: Castlevania: Belmont's Curse (PS5) - The Classic Series Returns in a Perfectly Fine Metroidvania
@SleepyNick, I think it is reasonable to point out that Push Square has a scoring methodology that most times (not always) tends to score non-PlayStation games lower than average scores and PS5 games higher than average scores.
Re: Modern Warfare 4 Is the Latest Call of Duty to Launch without a PS5 Platinum Trophy
@somnambulance The mythic achievement might be added, but not sure yet.
Re: Rumour: GTA 6 Will Be Ported to PC in Record Time Following its Debut on PS5
@Max_the_German Sony and Xbox can barely keep up with making new consoles (PS5's and Xbox's are selling out everywhere in the UK right now). They will be more worried about keeping up with demand at the moment, as consoles will be by far the cheaper way to play GTA 6.
Re: Valor Mortis (PS5) - Imperial Ambitions, Largely Realised
Day 1 on Game Pass if you want to try before you buy
Re: Dire Estimated Gears of War: E-Day Sales Raise Queries About Last-Minute PS5 Cancellation
@A-steak-with-ketchup Hit the nail on the head there, 100% agree PS4 gen was stronger on games.
Re: Dire Estimated Gears of War: E-Day Sales Raise Queries About Last-Minute PS5 Cancellation
@VenomUK Yeah, Matt Ball is very pro-exclusives and was highly critical of Phil Spencer and Sarah Bonds' move to everything multiplat.
He was brought in to rebuild brand resonance, as Sony has, and it seems to be working, with a report suggesting a 30% uptick in positive brand resonance for Xbox since the start of the year.
Re: Dire Estimated Gears of War: E-Day Sales Raise Queries About Last-Minute PS5 Cancellation
Wolverine undersold but like Gears of War E-Day these exclusives are designed to build brand resonance rather than profit.
I'm sure Asha knew that when she took it off PS5, but kept Forza 6 and Fable on PS5.
Re: Wolverine PS5 Sales Estimates Are Somewhat Soft, But Here's Why I'm Not Worried
I enjoyed the game, but I can see why others might not. I am sure Sony will be hoping to get some more sales from Black Friday onwards and will hope to get back at least the same amount of money invested over the next year. I expect any plans for a sequel or DLC have been canned, and the team will be moved onto Spider-Man 3, Venom, or another new project.
I can imagine Spider-Man 3 will be beefed up as a safe bet, and Venom will be scaled back or cancelled.
Re: Phantom Blade Zero Is the Next Truly Essential PS5 Game
Is this just another China RPG, one I have seen many times over the last 5 years? Or does anything about it make it stand out?
Re: GTA 6 Gameplay Leaks Are Back with Potentially Big Spoilers
@Spider-Kev Not potential story spoilers, though; those aren't in the article. Just don't post story spoilers.
I am glad to see you deleted the comment with the potential story spoilers.
Re: First Forza Horizon 6 PS5 Gameplay Arrives as Release Date Is Revealed
@Grumblevolcano They'll keep Fable in Feb, as Forza and Fable will be a month apart, and there is little fanbase crossover. PC will generate the most sales for Fable over Xbox console or PS5 anyways.
Re: Star Wars Zero Company Success Allows Dev to Bring Back Staff
@Mr-Cage Careful, you don't want to trigger anyone else with your own opinions now. You might disturb the hive mind lol