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The original price was well over most people's tipping point for monthly subscriptions, so it's definitely good that it is below that now, although still pretty high. I think anything over say £10, and people start paying a lot more attention to what they are subscribing to.
Game subscriptions are great if you are happy to just play them and not buy anything else, but if you are adding them to your usual games purchases, they start looking like a lot less value. People only have so much spare time.

@JVCIOM70 did you like it then? I've been considering grabbing it cheap despite the negativity just because I quite like open world city games.

Well hopefully that phone number option works, because no way am I uploading my face to one of those shady tech companies. Prob end up seeing it appearing in some ai picture a week later.

@ShadowofSparta try having a look at crystal project if you like retro RPGs. I only found out about it myself yesterday, thanks to YouTube, and I'm really enjoying it.

I'm really looking forward to it now after watching that. Not taking itself too seriously is a risky move but could work.

@RockyOfficial I'm really annoyed at how they've given up on star trek. I know some people don't like it and are very vocal about that but it still has a strong fan base.
I'll still watch the second series of academy when it comes out but it's definitely soured my mood.

@Runex2121 bold of you to claim that the math is fine when Microsoft really don't give a lot away. Do you work for them?

Surely the ultimate price will come down if day one releases are getting removed. $29.99 a month is a hard sell even with them, already at the point where you'll consider just buying the games instead.

Streaming won't be cheaper than owning your own hardware. All it means is that someone else owns the hardware, and will be renting it out to you. And renting is always more expensive long term. Don't fall for it.

I've never played, or even heard of it before a few weeks ago, but it does look like my sort of thing, definitely keeping an eye on it.

@RyPal the £1000 phone argument really doesn't reflect most people anyway. Sure, there's wealthy people out there who absolutely must have the latest model, but I imagine most are using several year old phones that they only paid at most £300-£400 for.

@Grumps859 I'm feeling that too. If the next gen really is just the same games with higher FPS and resolution as the selling points, then, coupled with the rapidly escalating price, an increasing number of people will not see the value in upgrading.
It just means companies will continue to make games for the current system for longer, maybe even indefinitely if something doesn't change.
Honestly, the only even vaguely interesting thing the futures offering at the moment is ai, and we're not even sure we want that at all.

@themaladroit I think the pc thing is just down to low pc sales numbers. The first few games they put out sold well, but it dropped off fast when (I assume) the novelty of playstation games on pc wore off.

@Rangers420 this gen is going to be around for quite some time I think. Even if ps6 does come out, it's just going to be fancier versions of the same games. It's going to have much longer legs than any previous generation I believe, even PS4.

@Npc1987 no idea what line of work you are in, but most people's wages haven't increased by that % in that time, even with inflation.

Yikes. Looks like we are going to be in this generation of consoles for a very long time. Going to need a mortgage for a ps6 at this rate.

@SecretSeashell yeah, at that point you may as well just start a new franchise altogether if you're dropping everything associated with final fantasy.

Makes sense to be honest. I wasn't interested in the same things as my parents when I was a kid either. It's the same thing with music and movies too.

@nessisonett I don't think it needs to be strict, just an employee or two judging if any effort whatsoever has been put into it. I think it's important that indie games have a route to appear on consoles, it's really not that hard to spot the 'games' taking advantage of it.

It is odd to see jrpgs of all things skipping playstation, as the playstation brand has been jrpgs fans leading console choice since ps1.
That said, I don't really mind, and they'll likely appear sooner or later anyway.
There are hundreds of jrpgs games already available, PS4 and 5 has been a great couple of generations for them. Not sure why this pretty obscure title is getting people's backs up.

@glennthefrog yeah that's probably it. It's potentially possible that it wouldn't have made it to Xbox either if Microsoft hadn't supported it. For all the complaining about exclusives, the funding means at least they are coming to something at all with smaller franchises.

@Bez87 there are options still. There's a time crisis standalone game that's recently come out, it's pretty expensive though. VR is really good for shooting games. And a PS3 and a couple of move controllers with gun attachments isn't too bad. There's quite a few games available for that, time crisis, house of the dead, the resident evil ones (still available online for now, including a great value resident evil mega bundle for £40) and a dead space one, delisted but you can get that by buying the dead space 2 limited edition version apparently.

I used to love that intro movie. Kind of weird that we just take CGI for granted nowadays and it doesn't even look that impressive any more.
The game was stunning at the time too, with it's scrolling landscape sections, huge step up from resi evil 2, which I also loved.
The Dreamcast really was something else, in it's brief moment of glory.

I honestly don't I ow what to think. Apart from being increasingly grateful that indie games exist. Mainstream gaming is fast becoming a live service hellscape.

I'll certainly stop buying consoles if they do, and that's not bluffing. It's literally the only reason I haven't moved to pc any way.

I think the game Devs need a chance to catch-up, or figure out how to make profitable games in the current climate. A new gen would bring even higher expectations, which would presumably mean even higher development costs and times. It's barely sustainable as it is based on current news.

It's so odd, I'd have thought that remaking games couldn't be that bad. I mean the plans already there, it's not like it's going to subject to over reaching.
Though the kotor remake had similar problems, I guess it's not so easy after all.

I love fallout games, but I'm not really feeling the need to replay the older ones. I just want 5. I personally wouldn't care too much if it hasn't advanced much gameplay wise as long as the setting and story is new.

Put dragon force in one of these games please Sega. I really want to play that again. Though it's an RPG, so would be better suited to like a dragon I guess.

@carlos82 yeah, my friends daughter still plays it, and she's 20 now. That said, a lot of the franchises probably still mean nothing to her. I guess it doesn't matter to them as long as the skins look good.
And it might attract new people. I admit the Futurama one even grabbed my attention, until I tried and remembered that I really don't get on with Fortnite.

I love 100+ hour RPGs. Really annoys me that people demand all games should be made to their taste.
I don't go around demanding that call of duty should be turn based. I respect that other people enjoy it.

@Deadhunter it's limited run. People buy the physical editions in the hope it'll pay for their retirement one day. I doubt they even sell that many digital versions, maybe putting it out digitally is just a formality to qualify it as an official release.

@Oram77 if Dreams had taken off, it'd probably have had copyright concerns to deal with, but most companies (aside from possibly Nintendo) usually leave niche stuff alone.

@Netret0120 not always nowadays. The time splitters trilogy used to regularly appear at £1.99 each on sale, but that's been bumped up to £3.99. there's probably other examples.

What is the benefit of a call of duty launcher? Seems a strange setup to an outsider, are all the games linked in some way? And why did mw3 get kicked out lol. Guess I need to look up some cod lore.

@ryanburnsred the government's stance honestly sounds like it's been written by EA or Ubisoft.

@graymamba Xbox has always had association with more western games, first person shooters mostly. Jrpg players have never had a big reason to get involved. To their credit, Xbox do seem to be aware of this and try to change it sometimes, but I don't know how much progress they make.

I'm willing to bet it's one of the most played games on ps plus, regardless of how many copies it's sold. It's another level popular compared to most games, even new generations play it.

@KidRisky Not sure if not being interested counts as a boycott 🤔.

For all the flak this guy gets, he was involved in so many great games back then.

On paper, it's a lot of stuff for the price. But I seriously doubt most people will ever use it all. The Fortnite bit seems especially unusual, it's probably making a lot of the price increase, yet who is it going to appeal to? Fortnite enthusiasts (from my experience) play little else other than Fortnite.

I've been obsessed with lord of the rings online lately, on pc obviously. Easily the best middle earth game experience out there in my opinion, though the dated mechanics may put some off.

@adge_uk it's strange that powerdrift never seems to appear in anything. I think years ago it was considered too difficult to port, there was a (really bad) attempt on the Saturn but that's the last I ever heard from it.

@LogicStrikesAgain if technology really has reached a point where it can't get cheaper, I would assume we could be with this gen of consoles for a long time to come. Asking say £900 for a ps6 is probably just going to be too much for the mass market.

I suppose more power would keep the frame rate and resolution obsessives happy, but it's not going to change up the actual gameplay at this point. We are long past the days of programmers not being able to make their worlds/dialogue as big as they'd like because of memory restrictions.

@Stevemalkpus I actually liked blasto back then, played it for hours. I didn't get that far in though, it was ridiculously hard. I want to say level 4? Can't remember lol.

Turn based RPGs have always been my favourite. Always bugged me that action RPGs are considered a natural evolution, they are just a different way to play a game.
I'm not against action games, indeed I enjoy some, but I also enjoy turn based. Turn based gives you time to think, gives you more options than you could possibly process in real time.
Chess is still huge.

Racing games are hard to judge on tbh. I assume fans of them like playing real world cars, so the licences can't be helped.
The crew was different obviously, I'm glad people are standing up to that nonsense before it becomes normal.

Who's buying a switch 2 and Mario kart separately? The bundle is much cheaper, that's a little confusing.

No idea how it would hold up now, but infamous 1 and 2 are some of my fondest memories of PS3, it's surprising that they haven't reappeared in some form.
Kinda tempted to fire up the PS3 and play it right now lol.