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Probably would've got a lot more attention if it had been integrated into the playstation system rather than having to go through your phone. I mean I was interested in the concept, but never really got interest it because of that.

@Rich33 there's definitely two disc holders, baldur's gate has one, and I think the last of us 2 ( well the PS4 one, don't know about ps5)
Other compilations have even given each game it's own box, a tales of trilogy, bioshock trilogy came with two boxes on PS4.
Just saying that it would certainly be possible, maybe a little more expensive to produce, but I doubt physical collectors would mind paying an extra fiver to get it. They've demonstrated that they are prepared to pay a bit more if the whole thing is on disc.

I quite like picross, but the last time I searched the PSN store I couldn't find any, I assumed Nintendo had some sort of copyright on it. That was quite a while ago though.

I was expecting comments about the game's age, but having a bash at the soundtrack, definitely wasn't expecting that lol.

I've been one of the many arguing that game pass is unsustainable for years, but I don't think it's the main reason for Microsoft's cutting. They bought too much, grew too fast, plenty of other companies have made the same mistake. Every company you buy out is more costs and employees to look after, more things to manage.

Eh, I don't know. I think the original 'gamers' gave up on call of duty years ago, it's casual mainstream nowadays. I'm not surprised it's going down the fortnite road.

Very fond memories of this game, I'll be getting it.
Though co-op multiplayer? More features are always welcome but the story doesn't seem that suited to it from my memory. It was all about being alone in space.

It started off very underwhelming, but they massively improved it towards the end of the ps3's life. I still remember people who had bought Arkham city complaining that it had been put on plus too quickly lol.
I do wish cloud saves weren't linked to it though, I feel that's a bit stingy on Sony, I doubt many subscribe just for that.

Edit: I massively prefer the claim and 'keep' forever model to the game pass/extra one. It feels like you are getting better value for money to me.

@Titntin I remember reading years ago that PS3 streaming is from a warehouse of literally real ps3s, or at least their insides. I guess if that's still the case then they can only have so many at once.

@Jswift56 there's only three on the other versions too.
As for it being dropped, whether people personally like it or not, it is still considered vr's poster seller. Sony really should be trying to convince them to keep supporting it. Fund it themselves if they have to.

@Matroska actually the 360 did very well in the first half of that generation, mainly down to being significantly cheaper. The PS3 caught up in the second half, after significant price cuts, and a seemingly unending supply of great games.

@GloriosaDaisy Kanji and Naoto actually being in the story makes it pretty progressive by jrpg standards to be fair.

Great game, possibly even my favourite of the 3 'modern' personas, but I've personally played through golden far too recently to be interested in this any time soon I think.
I'm ready for persona 6.

Collectors box and game bundle £249.99 lol.
That said, it'll probably resell even higher one day, can't really blame square for wanting a bigger slice of the insane prices these things sometimes reach.
I think most the people who buy them are viewing them as financial investments at that price.

This game has got a strange advertising campaign, 4 people are playing the game, and one (the same one in every ad) keeps dying in a variety of ways. I thought it was a mobile game ad until I noticed the name.

Iconic game, especially for playstation fans, but that does seem a bit high if you remove the nostalgia. Modern day racers can be found cheaper lol.

@FinneasGH larger stores normally have similar discounts too during days of play. I'm in the UK, and normally check out Argos during it, which a lot of others apparently do too as lots of it is usually sold out.

Outselling the original is impressive I will admit. It's not like the original was unknown, it was a pretty big deal (at least in pc circles) back then. I guess RPGs are growing in popularity.

I think it is silly to compare prices of the past, there are so many variables. Especially considering RRP prices are being compared. There really weren't that many people paying 59.99 for games back in the 80s/90s. As a kid back then, I used to make do with 1.99 spectrum games.
The value is decided by here and now. Id guess at a very basic level, cost to make it divided by the size of the audience who wants to buy it. That's why going mainstream, growth, has kept the price pretty stagnant the last few years, despite inflating costs to produce. Id guess to push to make them more expensive is because the audience is not growing any more.

I'd usually give anything persona related a go, but after foolishly incinerating far too much money on a gacha game early last year I will never be touching another one again. And I was old and 'wise' enough to know better, they can get anyone.

@ppitchfork yeah you do still get most the benefits of physical, resell, can still lend to friends, can play it on different accounts, still have the game if you lose your account for some reason.
I guess for the very forward thinking it may be useless in the distant future when/if the servers have retired.

@Yrven that is possible. Physical copies can only sell however many have been produced. It's the reason we sometimes see games appear at number 1, then disappear altogether the next week because there aren't any copies left for sell anywhere.

@ButterySmooth30FPS there was a bit of a drought during the PS3 era, at least from what I remember, but it's come back strong since. Well, apart from it's once poster child abandoning it...

@Balaam_ ha yes I'd have never platinumed disgaea 4 back on PS3 without my physical copy to fall back on when they patched out the duplication bug. And even with it it took me weeks. Lord knows how anyone managed it with the patched version.

7 billion for the games market seems surprisingly low to me.that seems by my basic calculations about £100 a year per person on average. I'm certainly doing a lot of the heavy lifting myself if that is the case.

Postage on top if you don't in the US. That and you'll be waiting a while. Apparently the game itself will come quite quick but the rest of it is the usual long wait.

@wildcat_kickz I'm not so sure about that, I've seen sack boy merchandise, toys etc pop up in people's houses a lot over the years, I think he had a bigger mainstream impact than he's getting credit for.

@Shinnok789 I suspect this current generation is going to last a lot longer than usual. The days of technology getting better and cheaper rapidly seem to be over, at least for now.

Rpg fans are probably one of the biggest defenders of physical left. I know that from experience, if you don't preorder a rpg or grab one fast then you can be in for a wait.
They have reasons other than nostalgia or collecting too, rpg's tend to hold their financial value, they age better. Each one has its own unique gameplay and story that doesn't get devalued by the next one.

@PlatinumMikey we can only hope about final fantasy. I'd love to see an attempt at making a modern turn based one.
Square have put out plenty of other turn based games on recent years, maybe it'll happen one day.

@Lysterao I've got idea how much money gamepass is making, but I don't think they could 'just stop' even if they wanted to at this point. The Xbox brand is too deeply associated with it now. They'd probably need a completely new console rebrand to abandon it now.

@B0udoir RPGs underestimating physical demand is pretty common, rpg fans still mostly try to get a physical copy if they can I think.

It's probably just a case of not many people playing them, (if any?) Does anyone even use the PS3 streaming regularly?
Original ps3's are still pretty cheap to get hold of (though slowly creeping up) and these games are still bargain basement prices, I'd imagine that what most people who still want to play PS3 games are doing.

@Jrs1 renting out things used to be huge, in theory it suits some people especially the less well off. The 36 month contract part makes that particular one seem a bit unattractive though.
Edit : and I'm assuming that it's probably got lower credit rating requirements than places like Argos.

@SelinaInTheOubliette I remember renting games out too. Even before blockbuster the local video shops would sometimes have a small selection of megadrive/SNES games.
I even rented out a second ps1 and two copies of doom once so we could try it multiplayer. Which was awesome at the time.

If I was a millionaire this would probably be the sort of stuff that I'd be spending it on lol.

@PlatinumMikey yeah the levelling up is infamous. Focusing on your main skills too quickly made you underpowered, yet worked correctly (probably following a guide) you could become a god.

I still think a separately sold drive is potentially a good thing for people. Disc drives tend to be the first thing to break down on a console, a cheap replacement would've saved me a lot on money on consoles in the past.
Obviously this strongly depends on them staying available and affordable though.

@Foxhound I'd like DragonForce (Saturn game) personally. I randomly remembered really enjoying it back it the day, looked it up on eBay and instant regret at whatever pittance I sold it on for back then.

@Czar_Khastik Amazon is offering it in the UK too. I assume it's different in other countries.

@Kanji-Tatsumi I think the main reason is Xbox 360 managed to do really well, despite having paid online. They weren't even offering any monthly games.
Xbox 360s had a ridiculously cheap console purchase though, was half the price of a PS3 at one point.
I'm not sure if monthly subscriptions are making consoles cheaper any more, but that was how the concept took off.

@Kidfunkadelic83 I played (I think) the first commandos game years ago on pc, was pretty fun, but it was very difficult. I'm surprised at how it still keeps popping up with new games/rereleases, I guess it must have some big fan base that I've completely missed out on.

Shenmue was the first time I felt like I was wandering around a real place, the nostalgia is justified it seemed incredible at the time. Maybe not number one but still.

I briefly tried one of these on PS4, it felt like it should've come with one of those 200 page manuals that used to be normal.

My favourite final fantasy, but yes I share the same concerns about a remake as others on this thread.
Though, it'd be pretty bold of square to bring their modern 'turn based is so old' mentality to this one. I suspect a remake will be a bit more faithful to the original this time.

Pentiment has 726 ratings on the PSN store, while only a fraction of buyers actually rate them, it is in line with a lot of highly rated lower budget games. Hardly seems not worth it to me.

I do like that as long as you claim them, they are there 'forever'. I think that's the weakness of the new subscription services, they don't really inspire any reason to stay subscribed like this model does.

I think maybe obsessing with a perfect end can be detrimental to a TV show. Game of thrones is obviously the most famous example, but to me umbrella academy is the most glaring one. The show was clearly cancelled with a rushed in ending.
Unless you've got a definitive ending in mind, it might just be best to keep going and just leave the show hanging if it does get cancelled for whatever reason, leave the end to the viewers imaginations rather than some awfully placed full stop attempt.

Unless Microsoft can organise some sort of cut of the steam sales on such a device, I really can't see it happening.
Though, if it did, I doubt Sony would attempt to block it. Its not really any different to being on pc.

Tempted by songs of conquest, though I've already got it on pc so that'd be a bit extravagant.
Terminator resistance for 9.99 a lot of people say it's good maybe I'll try that.
4500 games, yeesh, i feel sorry for the games at the bottom of the list.