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@Dezzy70 yeah, there's stock at currys (UK store - there was when I looked and it was a day after stock came in) with a discount as well as an additional discount code on top. I almost bought one just because of the low price, even though I know I don't want the S. Crazy to think they are struggling to sell a next gen console even with discount! Why bother making any more of them with such a shortage on the X?!?

@Hyperluminal, @Dezzy70 There always seems to be Series S in stock. I'm trying to get a Series X but can never find one while been able to buy S at many times since release. Just isn't as sought after as the other machines. Annoying as they may have been able to double X orders otherwise

@LordSteev Yeah the trick is once you die you make sure you get a weapon before you return to the beast.
The rest of the game is all about learning how each enemy behaves and accepting you will die a lot while figuring it out.

Regarding the load times, yes they are massively better and definitely not an issue at all. Just the range of hating on this game for wasting my time and money, to being one of my favourites ever makes me want people who struggle like I did to get through it. The reward has been massively worth it.

@LordSteev I'm with you here. Bought it because of reviews and could never get passed the first werewolf. Gave up and was annoyed at all the praise for it thinking there should be an easy mode. Tried again years later and was the same.
After buying the PS5 I tried it again thinking the long loading times would disappear and I have to say, it took a while but once I got passed the first monster it slowly grew on me and is now the game I voted on this list. I love it. Yes its hard, but its not evil, you just need to persevere.
And I finally get why it shouldn't have the easy mode as it would lose something in the process. The joy I felt after finishing the first boss wouldn't be replicated if I could just walk through the game without dying.

@2cents nope, drew the line at £20.
But even if it was £10 being too much, games were £40 - £50 new last gen. Going from £50 to £70 is a 40% increase which is beyond crazy so yes that line is easily drawn.
And you have to remember this isn't to buy a single game. Must have about 100 games bought last gen at least. Paying an addition £20 for each game is an extra £2000 by that logic. I just cannot afford that on top of what is already being paid.
Without buying games £20 or under my games list would be more likely 10 games strong at best.
I pay a decent chunk of money to gaming, but if they were all £70 then all my money would only go to Rockstar and Naughty Dog games, because I know they are high quality. There would be no way I'd take a chance on a game like this otherwise. Especially with the higher likelihood of it going to PS Plus than the next GTA or Red Dead.
Simplest example is I have 2 games for my switch and I paid full price because I had no choice. Mario Kart and Zelda. Because of the amazing sales on PS I can expand my library and spread my money across multiple devs and not just the big guys.

Looks good but I'm another one who will throw my hat in the ring and say I will never buy a game at £70 ever. It also does have a PS Plus feel to it and that may cause me to hold back and wait even longer than the usual sales.

Yep lockdown hit us like %^&*( slap. Had a couple of hours to sort out screens for the kids so panic bought the cheapest chrome books I could find. There was only 1 left at John Lewis and I got it. Wish I'd have known this PS4 option first though.
We have 2 primary school kids and me and my wife work most hours of the day. Its a complete nightmare, but I also understand it. Its not just about Covid. Even with massive lockdown the hospitals are full and all non Covid procedures are being stopped such as Cancer treatments. Its not just about Covid deaths but all other deaths that happen without a healthcare system to help out.
Regarding the mental health fallout - yes its a problem but possibly one everyone should do their part to help out, however that may be.
How about setting up a huge Push Square gaming meet every week to help with keeping people socially active? I suppose even if it helps just 1 person it would be worth it?

Never played this but came here for the 90% of comments being about why this list is rubbish because LOU2 shouldn't be number 1. Or if not number 1 if its higher than GoT and if not then because it exists and offends everyone.
Do people realise every single article is commented about Last Of Us. More than any other game I've ever seen. That alone should give it Number 1 in this list. Everyone is obsessed with it - for good or for bad. What an incredible game to be able to do this.
Anyway FFVII - I will play this one day but probably in the future alongside part 2. The half a game bit does put me off a bit but no idea if it should or not.

Waiting on the Cyberpunk upgrade for PS5 but if the Ai is always this bad even after the upgrades I won't bother. If the cities aren't filled with people and cars, I won't bother. It all looks very lifeless and would stop my buying it. I just can't understand how it could be seen as okay with such an empty environment.

@JamieO remember that same train in the late 80's, early 90's. Spent a lot of my youth in Southport arcades in those days - Street Fighter 2 my biggest obsession.

Not played the TH games but can agree with your number 1. Playing Bloodborne as part of the Plus Collection and love it so much I'll definitely be getting Demon's Souls - and probably anything else From Software releases

Edit: just saw your last message. sorry for your bad news. hope 2021 brings you a better year than 2020.

@wiiware bit unsure which game you mean but can't be LOU2 as that out sold virtually all games this year and confusingly Ghost also had drop off in sales after 1 month so I guess you probably don't want that to win either. Do you mean Cyberpunk as I think it's now up to 13 million sales even with the mess it's in.

I don't understand LOU2 haters going for their sales figures? They are shockingly good sales - in the top 10 for the year across all formats. Would be good figures for a multi plat game let alone a single console game? There must be something else they can go for? Perhaps they had a poor sales day on 17th October 2020 and aim for that instead?

I will never ever buy games at £70 even if they are great. Unfortunately I have a mortgage, bills and a brain. I will always wait until the sale brings them down to standard prices.

Perhaps this is how Sony plan to do pricing going forwards. Day 1 adopters pay a premium, week 2 pay a little less and so on.

Unfortunately its more likely the pressure from the boardroom to ensure the shareholders earn money because at the end of the day they are the only ones that truly matter to a company, and all that matters to shareholders is money.
In most cases is has nothing do to with pride in something the company produces or respect to the workforce that slave away through crunch after crunch to ensure those shareholders earn their money for doing f all work.
They just want their dollar in their pocket.

Going to play devils advocate and believe the devs make a game to be played the way they want it to be played. Then if people out there just want an arcade version where they blast through it then fair enough, people can buy the 'cheat' version. So long as the main game is the way it is meant to be played then great.
If they get that bit wrong then people just won't buy their game anymore.
Personally I would never buy the upgrades as it technically ruins the purpose of the game - but completely fine if by doing this they get more money and larger audience and that can then go back into the next game.

PT - the full game. I'd even settle for just PT the PS5 upgraded version so I can finally sell my PS4 Pro.

As bad as this release has been I still feel it will be fine in the end. I'm waiting until everything is cleaned up and updated for PS5, and will probably buy for half the price. When I get round to it it'll probably be the best game I've ever played. I'm just hoping CDPR are planning to put in a proper shift on this post release to get their reputation back on track, otherwise they could go the way of Bethesda if they aren't careful.

@Voltan Is PC classed as current gen or last gen? I find it amusing when people say a game should be played on PC or saying PC is the only way to play. Spent £1000 building my PC a while ago now and there is no way my PC would be classed as current gen. Wouldn't be surprised if it couldn't even run Cyberpunk. And I won't be spending another £1000 either to get it running or £2000 to play how it's meant to be played!

@get2sammyb hit the nail on the head there. We are all losers in this situation. Hopefully the hackers get caught and also lose. Well done Capcom for not bowing to their demands. I feel like I might purchase RE8 just to back their stance.

Surely if NPD sales for 2020 is all platforms then Last of Us 2 and Ghost of Tsushima being 5th and 6th is an amazing achievement against multi plat juggernauts like Fifa and Assassins Creed.
Also love that there are 4 single player games (5 if you include Mario?) in the top ten.

@AdamNovice agreed. I really like the look of this game, but I cannot buy every game that looks interesting at full price. I may buy the odd game here and there, which usually will be sequels as I know what I'm getting.
Unfortunately this fuels the constant sequels and lack of new IP's which I hate but am part of the problem.

@themightyant didn't know this, thanks for the info, will check it out.

@themightyant I'm with you here. Walking simulators are terrible by name but some of my best gaming experiences include Dear Esther, Gone Home, The Stanley Parable, Everybody's gone to the Rapture. Loved the music so much from Dear Esther and Rapture I went to see Jessica Curry live. She didn't turn up (ill) but those games left as much of an imprint as most 'proper' games last gen. Bring it on!

So happy this game won as it was an absolute masterpiece for me. Perfect end to the PS4 era. Played through 3 times and will play again on PS5 eventually. Would be interested if they ended the trilogy with some sort of happy end. As mentioned above, the first is about love, the second about hate, perhaps the third will be hope.
Although saying that would love a new IP from them. They've done action adventure, they've done horror, how about sci-fi...

This is the best looking game I think I've ever seen. Is Winter 2021 Jan 2021 - Mar 2021, like its coming out in a few months?

Have to say had no idea about this before but looks absolutely my kind of game and without doubt will be on my purchase list. 2021 is going to be a difficult year to play everything I want. A great problem to have really.

Christopher Nolan...please tell me he's writing a new Sony game. Would be even more amazing than say Guillermo Del Torro writing a video game....sigh...

@Katsuhono My thoughts exactly. Really hope they change up the location or it'll feel too much the same. Although if they were to do some sort of spiderverse which allowed for completely different takes on New York to lix things up. Chance to show off the PS5 load times by being able to instantly move between dimensions without any load times...

Getting for xmas. This is perfect news then...

@radamo no external drive. To be honest I haven't had the need for any extra storage yet so probably not in the same boat as those who are getting errors, by the sounds of it.

@Kieren1234 Had my PS5 in rest mode since release day and not had a single bug yet. Although I already hate myself for writing this...

@get2sammyb Whenever I see comments like that I have to read back through the messages just to see why you post it. Damn curiosity...
I personally thought LOU2 was as good a game I've ever played while still finding the 'middle' section difficult to accept at first, but I won't be lying if I say I can't wait for 2021 and people to stop talking about this game! Until they bring out a PS5 remaster that then goes and wins all the 2021 awards!!

Haven't played GoT yet but absolutely loved LOU2.
The arguments between the two feel very odd. Some people didn't like LOU2 but have made it their mission to pour so much hate onto it they would probably cut off their finger to make people dislike it. I don't understand why but it feels like it means more than just a game they didn't enjoy.
Defenders are extreme the other way to defend what doesn't need defending. If people don't like this game - they lose. They missed out on enjoying a great game.
I'm in that boat with Witcher 3, Grand Theft Auto, Red Dead Redemption. Games discussed as the best of all time. I didn't like them too much and could spend my free time spouting hate onto websites to try and make other people dislike them, but in truth I'm the one who loses.
I really wish I loved them a much as everyone else and feel gutted, not angry, that I don't.

BUT think of poor MS fans who don't own a PS4 having to watch Sony fans go at each other over which game is GOTY. They're probably thinking how they wish they could argue over 2 amazing games and which one is possibly fractionally better than the other....

Haven't played Demons Soul but she gives me the impression I'll breeze it with a pad, although it'll just make me more frustrated if I ever get to play it knowing she did this.

Guys I think @TG16_IS_BAE is just trying to wind you all up 😂
Next it'll be the Earth is flat! The joke is the fact you'll respond to it!

Now this is weird concept of having to update the PS3 to keep watching movies. I had this problem back in the day when I bought my dad a PS3. He lives out in Spain and didn't have internet at home back then. One day it just stopped playing his blu-rays and being useless with technology had no clue how to fix it.
Solution was to buy a USB dongle, go to internet cafe, go to Sony site, download the update file and store it in a specific folder structure, then go through the upload process on the PS3.
No chance he could figure that out himself! Do all stand alone blu-ray players have this issue as well?

LOU2 reminds me of Game of Thrones. They ended one of my favourite characters from season 1. How dare they do that. They should have just had everyone living happily ever after, because that's the impression I got when I heard it was about kings, queens, brutal deaths, sex, dragons. #Outrage
Yes everything else about it was technically brilliant, it left me guessing where the story would go, so in turn I found it thrilling - but after season 8 I refused to watch any more of it - and now it's on sale cheaper than yesterdays newspaper so I was obviously right. #teamsprouthatebecauseIdidn'tlikeit.
Right now I'm off to the Lion King homepage to spread more rage - didn't like what they did to Mufasa!

This was hilarious. Just like real life. Mo having an awful game, first touch on a two on two straight to the oppo, hits the post for a one on one then bang! out of nowhere gets his goal.
Also did you notice when he celebrated by praying his shorts rip and you see his pants underneath his shorts. Thats just weird!

I thought there was a new recent 'rumour' that Kojima had patched things up with Konami so he can finish Silent Hills for PS5 (giving Konami their reputation back!). This would be the best news this year if true. Image PT the game. I still play that game and still have to wince my way through it every time.

@DonJorginho I have no problem with him being vulgar or swearing and have no problem with him making a game.
I had no idea who this guy was before this article but why can't he make a game or at least help make a game. Might bring something different to the table, who knows. If it fails then it fails but no skin off my nose - he could be a gaming genius trapped inside a Hip Hop star's body. We've all been there....

@Matroska My logic is I don't let my kids listen to explicit music. Actually technically I do but their Alexa has the explicit filter on so his music won't be available to them - so they blame Alexa and not me. Secondary school next year so pretty sure they'll pick up on it all soon enough then they can start swearing at me when they're grumpy. A day I can't wait to come!
Thanks for the heads up on JP - will make sure they don't get hold of a copy 🤣

@Culjoseth wow - I guess I'm a bad person then? To be honest I have no idea where I would ever have heard of him before this article. I just listened to some of his music and don't recognise it from anything mainstream (sometimes you didn't realise you knew someone from the radio or adverts). At least now I can say I know who Travis Scott is. Guess I'm no longer the bad guy. Woohoo!

@DonJorginho so thats what that is. I thought he was a robot but you're saying he gets auto-tuned? very odd. This music is like the Phil Collins of the 2020's. Easy listening, although throwing in some swear words to make it sound edgy. Wow how old do I sounds now!

I have no idea who he is either - and won't go chasing to find out, but its the way it is. Influencers or glorified sales reps are the future and will probably work for the kids. In fact I might ask my children if they know who he is. That'll be the ultimate test of how 'out of touch' with the youth I now am

Edit: Ok - just noticed you said rapper so just spotified his name and all his top songs are explicit so the kids won't know him and I now do, therefore I win! Anyway, never heard those songs before and not really my taste in music but must admit its not completely terrible. Have heard a lot worse in this genre.

@Medic_Alert Can see what all the fuss about it was now. I found the short cut and the feeling of achievement after opening a gate of all things! If I can actually make it through this game I will finally pluck up the courage to buy Demon Souls. Potential stroke of genius to include Bloodborne in the collection....

@Medic_Alert xmas present from the kids. Its why I had them
Got a few hours in on Valhalla and really enjoying it but foolishly started playing Bloodborne at the same time. Now I can't take myself away from Bloodborne. I am so bad at that game but absolutely loving it (thanks PS+ collection). Doubt I'll ever make it passed the first boss ever but I'll probably be the only person on level 100 (or whatever it goes to) and still be stuck in central yharnam!

Its all a bit silly really and only because it is used to fuel silly arguments over which is 'better'. They are virtually identical performance wise. And so far I still haven't seen a game look anywhere as good on PS5 as Last of Us 2. But hopefully with MS so desperate to come out on top with the performance side of things, as they "mature" their dev environments then hopefully it will force Sony to keep pushing on quality and ideally they'll push each other to best possible output then we all win.

That is crazy. I feel like I can't even say its a good game (the speed run that is) and not sure I can say I enjoy it but the competition between myself and my son is beyond healthy. I really need to figure out how they've done this so I can put the competition to bed once and for all! Its at the point now where 1 mistake and its no chance of improving. So so stressful!!

Had my first bug last night where my mates wouldn't help me open a door in a raid. Made me look a right looser - "Guys I need help with the door.....er guys?".
Also had another thing happen and not sure if its a bug or part of the game, but had things like trees glitching into weird coloured images, like the way the characters glitch in Spiderman into the spiderverse. Not sure if thats supposed to happen now and again to remind the player they are in the animus and its part of the story or if its just a bug?
Edit: Also remembered another bug I'm getting where it says I've only played 2 hours yet I've played much more than that?

This is my second favourite controller ever, behind the switch. Absolutely love the switch controller. Can hardly tell your holding them and can keep hands relaxed in any position. Shame the only decent games on it are Mario Kart and Zelda!