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Do they seriously expect us to buy every game again? This is really getting out of hand. Buying any game first time round seems like a mug's game now. I was about halfway through the PS4 version and looking forward to picking it up again on PS5, but now I just feel like an idiot for buying in the first time round.

Not a great thing to put in your advert as it will probably end up with a flood of calls from people putting their discs in upside down... or downside up... one of the two.

I enjoyed this game, the only thing that annoyed me was that you couldn't choose to have the French characters speak French and English ones speak English. It's either one or the other so either the heroes or villains are not speaking their native language. A minor nitpick really, but they've recorded the voices for both so it would be an easy option to add and would help the immersion a lot for me.

Poor old Deathloop, everyone knows it's going to be a good game, but we also know it'll be on sale for £20 in a few months too. It's funny, if they had waited to announce it and this presentation was the first time I'd heard or seen anything about the game I'd probably be more likely to buy it on release. As it is, it already feels like an old game that I'm a bit sick off hearing about.

At this point just move on. I'm so tired of this constant desire to string out previous releases. It really doesn't affect me really cause I got my fill and don't want any more, but it's a shame to see them carry on dragging out every release with updates and extra bits and pieces. Meh, I'm getting old I think, I like a complete experience that starts and ends with the possibility of another complete sequel at some point that evolves and improves the original down the line.

Ghosts of Tsushima was good, but the last thing I want is just more of the same. That was the fundamental problem with the original release.

I wish they'd stop chucking in Call of Duty games, I've got so many of them now and I'm not interested. Anyone who is buys them every year anyway, so it just feels like a papering over the cracks really. With the amount of microtransactions they should all be free anyway.

What a strange decision. It's not like anyone who has the plus version is going to buy the upgrade after this and all they've done is put me off playing the version I have and spread a load of bad will.

Good move by Sony. Returnal is one of the best games I've played for a long time. It's up there with the soulsborne games and coming from me that's a huge compliment.

The sooner they can move on from this project the better. I think they just need to keep quiet now until the new gen versions are ready, then release them and move on asap. The game itself really isn't anywhere good enough to deserve all this attention and time.

@Titntin it's not so much that I care what others think, it's more that if it was to come up in conversation I would feel embarrassed to say that I'd spent this much money on a game. It makes me realise I've passed a point of what I think I should spend on a piece of entertainment.

Even my best mate who works as a designer at a fairly big studio is like "How much!" When I told him how much I paid for a Ratchet and Clank game and he works in the industry.

Seems like Sony are creating a lot of bad vibes with their pricing this generation. I know they want more for each game, but the last thing you want when people buy your products is to feel like they've been done and constantly have how much they've spent at the back of their minds whilst using it.

I did enjoy Ratchet and Clank, but I spent the whole time playing it thinking "I've paid too much for this game." and that cost me £55 with some store credit applied. Even as someone who can afford games at these prices, I'm a little embarrassed about how much I've spent on some of them and would actually keep it a secret from a lot of people I know cause they would be shocked if I told them.

What about 1 and 2 for switch? I would have thought they would be a priority.

Not this again, haha. The difficulty is built into Miyazaki's games. There has always been an 'easy' mode, calling friends for co-op, wearing certain armour, focusing on strength builds with high vitality etc.

When people ask for an easy option what they are really asking for is a win button or invincibility. At that point you might as well watch a play through on YouTube.

I was too busy enjoying Ratchet and Clank to notice it was even happening. Metroid 5 and Advance Wars reboot will be amazing though, very excited for them and Elden Ring of course.

I don't think it's a coincidence that Sony released a big title over the E3 weekend. Honestly, I'd much rather get a quality game to play while all the posturing goes on than sit through a bunch of CG trailers for games two years away then check out the highlights later on.

Pirate's curse of one of those bizarre anomalies where the Switch lrg version is selling for hundreds or even thousands on eBay. No reason for it whatsoever other than it must have not sold many during the run window. I like to pick up the Switch games I want from them, but the prices and rigged scarcity is fascinating to me. It's all getting very close to NFT territory or even alchemy, turning normal material into gold. If the lrg guys have any sense they'll be storing batches of each game to sell on eBay a few years later.

I don't understand why they don't try and do some kind of left 4 dead style game in the RE franchise. It's perfect for it and they can fill their boots with cosmetic microtransactions and season pass nonsense.

If they really wanted to go for it they could use classic locations like the mansion and police station. There could be a few puzzles to solve with the aim being to survive the night or something. There you go Capcom, your can have that one for free.

This sounds basically like the Demon's Souls Miyazaki always wanted to make without restrictions and time restraints. Nice.

Have to agree with other posts, no need to post articles about this anymore. It's not like you get 'Last of us 2 not coming to Xbox' stuff on Xbox sites. I know the original was multiplatform, but let's just move on now. Constantly writing about Xbox exclusives just plays into their hands, forcing relevance is exactly what they want.

I mean if you really think about it the strongest aspects of the whole presentation were "Look at these games other people aren't getting now because we have money." It's not like all of the 'exclusives' weren't going to come to Xbox anyway.

That's what I find so strange about this situation. Nothing has changed for the people who champion what Xbox is doing. They're getting exactly the same stuff they would have anyway.

I suppose they're going for it and you can't blame them. It still feels a bit rotten the way they've essentially paid to take a bunch of games and sequels away from people that were planned for or would have come to PS5.

Maybe we can finally stop talking about it now on the Sony side of things as it's hard to discuss without sounding bitter about it. I'll never buy an Xbox and I'm not a fan of the sub gamepass model, but Microsoft are going to dominate, slowly but surely. I'll probably go PC eventually, especially if Sony continue to release exclusives there too.

Lots of people see this as a good thing, but I really see this big push from MS as the beginning of the end for me and gaming as I know it. With ads on the console UI and the inevitable embracing of microtransactions through gamepass growth, it's just not what I want from my favourite form of entertainment. Devs I know all agree that Gamepass is pretty bad for industry going forward too. I hope Sony can keep up, but I can't see anything but them struggling in the end, especially if Xbox takes over the US.

Here's to a good PS5 generation though, it's been great so far.

@The_New_Butler I completely agree. With a bit of a downgrade, 30fps and a few loading screens here and there Rift Apart could definitely run on the PS4. Don't get me wrong, in enjoying the game a lot but I personally found Returnal to be far more impressive in terms of being a next gen experience. With tweaks I'm sure that could also come to PS4, but it would lose a lot more in the process with the frame rate, quick loading doors and resolution.

I think it would be great if they could do a collection of 20 of the best games from each generation similar to the ps+ collection we have now on PS5. That would add incredible value to + and be a nice introduction to the history of playstation for newcomers.

I have quite a big collection of physical games from PS1, 2, 3 & 4. It would be handy if I could play all those discs on one machine, but in all honesty, I quite like that I have to dig out an old machine and plug it in to play them. It's nice to make a weekend out if it once in a blue moon.

Hidetaka Miyazaki is a master of level design and I can't wait to see what he does with a vast open world environment.

It was OK, I could do without so the pomp and world exclusive nonsense. It all feels a little desperate.

Elden Ring looks class though. It's a shame that Fromsoftware fan's excited for the new game seem to upset some. The ones who like Miyazaki's games know what to expect with graphics, content and style. Sure it's possible Elden Ring could be a disappointment, but why you'd wish that on people looking forward to it says more about you than anything else.

Finally, it looks like the game will be more of the same which is all I can ask for from my favourite game director.

@Divergent95 If you think the combat is janky it just means these games aren't for you or you haven't spent the time to get used to the systems. The whole point is the animations and combat is precisely worked out and methodical. Once you take the time to learn the move-sets and understand the timing you end up looking like a boss when you eventually get better at these games. Button mashing will get you nowhere.

This industry is so broken. It gets worse with each year that passes. It feels like this is our major generational divide to me, I don't know anyone who likes the service route of unfinished piece meal games personally, so it much be the younger generation of gamers who don't mind it all.

It really shouldn't bother me as I'm not directly affected by it, but it sucks to see such nefarious schemes rake in so much money.

I think the biggest problem they face is that Fractions part 2, or whatever it's called, will probably be mature rated, pretty dark and po-faced. So this automatically excludes the younger teenage bracket of easily manipulated spenders who must have the new skin to fit in. As an addition to tlou it was pretty great, as a standalone project I think it has a lot to do to convince the old guard.

The rumour of a day one PC launch could change things though, and I think it's true. It would be a wise move to make it cross-platform with PS4, 5 and PC.

Meh, have to admit I'm a little bummed. I was really hoping this was the R&C to break out and be a true classic. It sounds fine, but having ordered it, I can already feel the burn from the higher price tag attached. At £30 I'd probably be happy, but for the £55 I've paid I know there's going to be some nagging negativity when the credits roll.

Let's face it, Sony was never going to be able to keep up the crazy standards expected for £70 games. With the cross-gen admissions I think they're going to have to roll back the prices.

@Th3solution I know right, at least we've got some exercise from all the naked ritual controller battery charge dancing we've been doing over the years.

@adrianthealchemist I don't use rest mode anymore and I have one controller always charging while I play with the other. The fact that both controllers are completely dead when I switch on the PS5 sometimes tells me there's something else going on. It's only happened 3 or 4 times, so it's not a major issue, just a bit odd.

The dualsense and battery charge has been all over the place for me since the last update. Sometimes I'll turn on the PS5 and both controllers will be completely dead despite one being fully charge and the other at about 50% when I turn the console off. Then like you say, I can keep playing for a few hours despite the indicator saying that the charge is completely empty.

I still don't really use the rest mode overnight as it often turns itself off or crashes by the time I come back to use it. I wish they'd address these issues. I still don't know if my PS5 is faulty with the rest issue or if it's a firmware problem.

I'll allow him to shine my controllers when he gets the Red Dead Redemption 2 plat.

Is it really such a big deal? I dunno, it is a little disappointing, but a game like GT7 is pretty easy to downgrade by reducing the quality and frame rate. Heck, pretty much any game can so long as the core gameplay doesn't completely rely on the new hardware.

This will probably keep the prices of new releases down too, which is only a good thing in my eyes. I've really enjoyed my time with the PS5 so far and that's all that matters at the end of the day really.

@sanderson72 I'm guessing they sell it at very little profit, if any, and it acts as a loss leader that reminds a bunch of people that they exist twice a year, bringing in a load of traffic on the site.

Dunno how ShopTo does it, but I'm sorted with PS+ til 2025 now. I still don't like paying a subscription, but I've got a lot out of it the past two years so it's hard not to feel like it's good value, especially at £33 a year.

@ATaco sorry, I know you're trying to form a bridge and explain where these issues and attitudes stem from, but you're still essentially just focusing on how you feel and how you're affected and not how the people negatively affected by these issues feel. These changes and issues aren't about people like me or you and that's what needs to be understood before any meaningful change can really happen.

Everyone's talking about her face while I'm like "Where's the armpit hair?". Guess we're still not quite ready for that step yet.

PS5 upgraded version on plus seems inevitable now.

I'm looking forward to trying this, but I don't trust fighting games anymore. I'm fully expecting VF5 to be jam-packed full of microtransactions and monetisation. A lot of ps+ games that sound too good to be true end up being glorified demos designed to get you spending.

Another pretty good month. 3 games I probably wouldn't have bought, but I'd like to check out. Got to hand it to Sony with their PS+ games since the launch of PS5, I don't think they get enough credit. If you had offered me what we've got with the 20 collection games at about £15 for 6 months over game pass at more than that each month I'd easily pick +. There's only so many games I can play a month and the smaller indie offerings have gone down nicely with the bigger games. Good stuff, I hope it lasts.

A digital future to look forward to! Honestly you could find most of these cheaper the day they released with a quick Google search. Baffling.

Seems to me that Sony has stuff ready to show but wait to see what everyone else does before deciding how much they want to put in the open or not. A lot will depend on what Microsoft and Bethesda show at E3. If they have a conference that creates a lot of buzz I expect to see Sony come back with some state of play showing a bunch of games. If not then why would they bother showing their hand if it's not needed?

They'll show Horizon Forbidden West this week and see how things go, that's what I think anyway.

I wonder if they'll admit to copying Nintendo's homework. If they can implement some kind of physics system and the ability to climb everything similarly to BotW it could be something special. It would take the series from a solid 8 into the 10s for me. People who don't see the difference between the two games and their systems simply weren't creative enough with what was on offer in BotW.

Got the Platinum this week, best game I've played since the original Dark Souls. The fact that we've received a game better than anything from last gen is pretty awesome. There aren't many games where I get all the trophies and still want to play it. I'm glad the scouts are back in as I got a taste of them in the patch they pulled and it basically offers optional mini bosses with great loot throughout the game.

That said, I still have to stand by my opinion that £70 is too much for not just this but any game. I managed to get it for £55 which I was more than happy with, but it seems Returnal hasn't sold very well and I primarily blame this on the ridiculous price point.

@InvaderJim I'm playing it on grounded with permadeath per chapter. It's good, makes the whole thing really tense again. Highly recommended of you want death to matter.

@MatthewJP it is pretty eye opening. I can't quite believe 30fps was that jarring on base PS4. I'm usually fine with games in 30 but switching between the two with this upgrade is quite telling. I suppose I could adjust after a few minutes if I had to.

Grounded mode it is then! Been waiting for this, it's been almost a year since getting the Platinum trophy too, so nice timing.

Also, it's good that they didn't try to charge for this. This is the kind of approach that makes me feel better about buying Sony games day 1 and goes a long way towards trusting that I won't get shafted as an early adopter of their games.

So, is this it then? They have given away some good games, but you would have thought they would want to finish on a high with at least one noticeable release. Maybe they should have saved Horizon Zero Dawn with a PS5 patch to go with these casino/drug dealer Trojan giveaways.

I signed up for the Demon's Souls and Returnal avatars, so I hope we get those for whatever requirement is needed. It's unfortunate that I just finished both Returnal and Resi 8, so those trophies won't count. I got the Platinum for Returnal too, I wonder if Plats are more valuable towards the count or not.

Crazy game prices aside, the PS5 has had some superb games in its first six months. If the games keep coming and what we've seen so far is just the tip of the iceberg in terms of what the console can do, we're set for a killer generation.

I just hope the numbers bump up sooner rather than later so the online retailers can start selling the games cheaper.