Oh boy...Souls-Like and Roguelike combined, into one game? The only thing that could make me pass on this even faster is if it had DLC making it also a Battle Royale and a MOBA. 🙄

Don't mind me, just being a smart @$$. I do hope it's enjoyable for fans of those (IMO, horrible) genres of games.

Wait...this is coming to Playstation?? That's a surprise. I figured it went Xbox exclusive when Microsoft bought Double Fine.

@electrolite77

Queue the Duck Tales theme with Scrooge McDuck swimming in his money pit.

I found it to be pretty bad. EA has killed of all the games I like anyway. Hopefully the Dead Space remake leafs to an entirely new game in the series.

Cool, I bought it on PS4 because it was on sale. I'd prefer it on the Switch though.

Nice! Bonus points for Rebellion not pulling the BS Square Enix did with FF7 Remake, even if I have no desire to play it.

This is being published by EA, correct? Because I have very little faith in that, particularly since they killed the franchise with co-op, PvP, and MTX in Dead Space 3.

Cool, gives me an excuse to go back and Platinum the game. While it wasn't as good as the 1st two, I enjoyed it. Particularly the larger focus on puzzles over combat, I missed that about Lara Croft.

Although, I did find it a bit funny that by the end of the game I actually wanted more combat, just to put the new stealth mechanics to more use.

@PossibLeigh

Ok, so is it a start over at a checkpoint, or start over completely from the start again? If I die on the final boss type enemy,, do I have to fight them all over again? Because it seems marketed as starting all over again like that.

If that's the case, it's taking elements of a RogueLike, it doesn't have to be procedurally generated to borrow ideas from Roguelike games.

So many games today are borrowing roguelike and souls like mechanics. I just want to be informed correctly so I can base a purchase decision on a game. I dont enjoy roguelikes or soulslike games, or the mechanics borrowed from them, so I don't want to spend money on them.

Hitman is one of the few stealth games I've never gotten into, no idea why to be honest. Is it basically restarting a level over from scratch then?

I love Arkane Studios, they're one of my favorite developers. I also love the Dishonored series as well as Prey. Deathloop should be right up my alley, but I really have no interest in playing it.

For starters, whether it's been officially labeled as a Roguelike or not, it sure fits the bill. I'm not a fan of the genre, and they've joined forces with Souls-like as most copied and overused genre. Kinda hard to think of a Metroidvania sounding title for Roguelike and Souls-like.

Strike one

As much as I love Arkane's games, they definitely do not have the feeling of a top notch shooter with smooth controls like Destiny or CoD. So seeing how much shooting is involved with this, I'd say it won't feel good enough for a Roguelike experience...in my opinion.

Strike 2

Finally, it just looks bland, dreary, and uninteresting.

Strike 3

Deathloop...you're out!

Someone needs to make a mudlarking simulator so I can get my wife into gaming. Haha

Meh, looks as boring as ever to me. It's just not a game for me.

I hope everyone else enjoys it though. At least it's weird and unique, a fitting Kojima experience.

@Ward_ting

Ah, I didnt know it was revealed as a HFW focused State of Play. I just remember mention of it being included. Looks like I was wrong.

I still don't like the idea of a State of Play being focused on any one game.

Ok, only 9 minutes of the show taken up by Deathloop, that's much better than the majority like with HFW. I mean, I'm excited for HFW, but I dont want any one game hogging up nearly the entire State of Play again. Just announce a presentation on that game itself instead.

@JapaneseSonic

I believe it was meant for late 2021, but with everything going on at CDPR, I'm not holding out hope it will release when they say. I hope I'm wrong though.

Awesome! So glad to see Kena so high up in this list. It looks stunning, and I can hardly wait to play it. It's actually my most wanted game at the moment.

I'm surprised, and a bit sad to see Dying Light 2 so low on the list.

Cyberpunk...just...🤦‍♂️

So, are they going to completely block out all screenshots again? I noticed Berseria didn't allow me to and after a quick Google search, I found out a few Tales games blocked this feature entirely.

I've been taking screenshots and video of nearly every game I play for years. The introduction of photo mode into tons of games has only increased my desire to do so. So much so I have nearly as much time spent on photo capture as I do time spent playing a game. I was in quite a few screenshot groups on PS4 communities before Sony annoyingly decided to do away with them.

@Octane

Beat me to it.

@Total_Weirdo

I agree, that news was unexpected, so I'm sure Gearbox will want to try and get as much money as they can first.

It's not a horrible game, just nothing really special outside of the pretty graphics. Definitely not worth the next gen games price point.

I highly expect Godfall to become a PS+ game at some point. I'll wait until then to try it again.

Well, I tried it the other day.

It looked dated, played dated, and was boring.

Overall, I see that this is just not for me. I hope someone enjoys it though.

Ok, I get people are excited for stuff, but tracking down the personal PSN account people involved and spamming it with messages is basically stalking.

I'd like to see Sony temporarily ban accounts harassing the guy over this. Particularly if their dumb enough to use their own PSN accounts to do so.

People take stuff far too seriously.

@TheFrenchiestFry

I doubt they ever will, but I still wish they did.

Sadly, they'd just self sabotage themselves again somehow. The Vita failed mostly because of Sony.

@Floki

I'm bummed that it seems Sony doesn't have a State of Play lined up soon. I want to know about these 20+ games in the works that nearly half are supposedly new IP's.

@Rob_230

I want a PS port of Sunset Overdrive as much as I want a sequel!

@Dezzy70

I'm still hoping for a Resistance trilogy Remake/Remaster, or even a reboot or just new game on the series.

@Yaycandy

I'm playing Rift Apart now, a good 4-5 hours in, unlocked my4 and 5th location.

As always, R&C is gorgeous, but I honestly think the only reason it's "only possible on PS5" is due to the Rift mechanics. Which is basically what Insomniac said.

If it wasn't for the Rift mechanics, I'd see no reason it couldn't run on a PS4, albeit a bit less stunning in the visuals, but hardly enough to really matter.

@Play

Yeah, they just buy them instead, and even then how long do we need to wait for actual releases?

I was all about Xbox during the 360 era, they have nothing that interests me anymore. Even though I've got a few more years of GamePass Ultimate from taking advantage of the dirt cheap $1 upgrade a while back, I havent turned my XB1 on in years outside of just to update it, if even that.

Game Pass is nice for consumers, but I just see it as the console version of all the hate I read about the Epic Games Store. Let's just throw open our enormous coffers of money and persuade people to come to us instead of actually putting in the effort to bring them to us.

The XB1 is now almost 8 years old, and instead of spending those 8 years using their enormous resources of money to start up new 1st party studios to bolster their games lineup, they just throw money at 3rd party developers and buy them outright and then will highly likely utilize the BS strategy of making tons of historically multiplatform games now a "Console Exclusive", timed or permanent.

As much as I agree that Game Pass is a good deal, I also think it will have long term damaging effects on the Video Game industry.

Having a Netflix of games is nice, in theory, but it'll just end up like streaming media is now. Every big publisher will want to have their piece. Then we'll get Ubisoft Pass, EA Pass (already do on both in a way), 2K Pass, Square Enix Pass, etc. Then publishers will just forgo Game Pass entirely and make their games exclusive to their own subscription based models.

Between digital and streaming/downloading/subscription based gaming options, it's an even bigger push against anyone ever owning the games they buy.

@djlard

I believe one person can do that to just about any service. The fact that tech engineers can't find a solution to permanently find a why to stop this is what's preventing it from happening.

Wow, I'm surprised Kaiden even got a 2% vote. He's easily the worst character in the entire series.

I'm not the least bit surprised. Microsoft didn't pay billions for Bethesda to keep it the way it was. Particularly when it hardly has any exclusives worth caring about these days. (For me anyway, but thankful Fable is back!)

The only thing that truly pisses me off about Microsoft's acquirement of Bethesda is that it includes Arkane Studios. I really don't want to see their games tied down to one console. (Not counting PC)

I'm not against exclusives, if they're made by first party studios, but 3rd party exclusives sucks. So I'm definitely not a fan of Microsoft buying up a large producer of popular 3rd party games to make them exclusive. I'd rather they worked on creating new studios and new IP's during their of the Xbox One instead of cheating gamers out of popular 3rd party games.

I say this as someone who eventually own all 3 of the big consoles. This is some BS that does not improve gaming, just Microsofts bottom line.

I wanted all black when it was revealed, but the dual color has grown on me and I actually prefer it now.

@WCB

I need to play this before its removed from GamePass. It looks gorgeous, and I find it intriguing.

@Korgon

I agree, I always thought Uncharted leaned to much into the action and not enough into the adventure. Uncharted 4 was a nice change of pace. I also like how they didn't include annoying supernatural enemies at the end.

Although, I fully expected the dead pirates to come to life at the end, and even though I'm glad they didn't, I won't lie and say I didn't secretly miss it. 😄

@ApostateMage

The original will always be my favorite, but Uncharted 4 comes in 2nd place for me, followed by 2, then 3.

So don't update...got it.

I gave up the other day, I had my best run yet, nearly double health bars, large quick use health pack, the astronaut relic for a free revive, some nice artifacts, nice parasites, nice weapon perks too.

Got all the way to the boss door and...

While dodging an enemy, I got stuck in one of the tree trunk bases of one the eyes of Sauron spotlights. WTF?!? Are you kidding me?!? 😡

Couldn't break away, and there were no more enemies alive to kill me so I could revive nearby with the astronaut relic.

20 deaths, I was about to put my boot to the first boss Phrikes and finally reach a new biome.

After a BS loss like that, I couldn't bring myself to fully try again. I made it about 3 minutes into a new cycle and just said F@#! it, I'm now wasting my time.

@theheadofabroom

I'm in the land of the insane...err...'Murica! 🤦‍♂️

Amazon here in the US has Kindle versions for much cheaper than physical, most of the time. I believe Barnes & Noble was/is the same, but I have shopped there in so long I can no longer recall.

@Omniicron

Yeah, it's a different scenario for MP games. Thankfully for me I have up MP games at the launch period of the PS4/XB1. Destiny was the last game I played PvP in since the 360/PS3 era. That game has become such a joke now that I no longer play PvP at all.

PvE co-op is different, but I still no longer buy into the live service co-op games. Destiny and Anthem burned me on that. The Division I feel was good, but I didn't play it like Destiny, I treated it as a usual co-op buddy shooter RPG with my brother, it just required an online connection. (Ugh, which I am also done with)

So it's just traditional co-op for me from here on out.

@WallyWest

I believe he may be referring to the fact that digital copies of games have a higher profit margin over physical. Digital games no longer have to worry about packaging, shipping, retailer cuts, etc. So yes, digital games should be fairly cheaper than physical.

It's no different than ebooks having a lower price point, or digital copies of movies/CD's having a lower price point than their physical counterparts. I firmly believe its why there is a growing trend of "physical packaged" games ending up being just a case with a download code inside.

I'm all for these companies making money so they can keep producing entertainment for us, but I and many other consumers aren't going to just throw our money at them.

@Omniicron

I agree.

I use GameFly still as a way to demo games I'm interested in before buying along with renting games I had no intention of buying. Sometimes I end up keeping a game I had no real interest in.

As for digital, yeah, I wait for super cheap PSN sales now. I treat games like any other product. Why would I ever want to pay full price when I can simply wait and get the same thing at a reduced price? If I'm being honest with myself, my backlog is so large I don't ever need to buy a game at launch again.

@LoveJustHappens

That's how I found mine.

What I would like to know is doe we have to find the house key each run? I always have it in my inventory now, but I've been to the house 3 times since finding it and cannot open it again.

So I wonder why I have the house key still if it no longer works. My guess is it's available at predetermined times? Perhaps after a certain amount of deaths each time before you can open the house door again?

@4kgk2

That's no reason to stop gaming. Some people like to be smart with their money. History has shown that game prices drop fairly quick, unless it's a Nintendo game.

That's like telling someone to not buy a TV on sale because they can't pay top price for it at release. I certainly don't expect to pay top price for a car or house either. I sure as hell didn't.

It's a hobby, as people age more important things arise like family expenses, homes, healthcare, etc. That doesn’t mean people should just give up something they enjoy because they can't afford every game they want when it comes out.

@Enuo

Exactly! It's more on Housemarque not learning it's lesson of making great, but niche games that didn't sell well. Which nearly led to them closing down. Why they tried to make an even more expensive and equally niche game is a bit baffling to me.

I love their older games, but I have zero interest in roguelikes, and a AAA roguelike makes no difference. It certainly doesn't help that even roguelike fans are on the fence due to a lack of any save feature, even a temporary one, when runs can take 2-3 hours.

I wish the developers all the best, but if this fails, its on them, not Sony. They have my respect for trying to be different though.

@itsfoz

Sony, eh, I don't think they go that route, Nintendo on the other hand, yeah I believe that 100% 😑

It really is likely due to component shortages. (Also, PoS scalpers😡) One of my employers customers is Ford. They're currently on a 3 week shutdown because they simply cannot get the semi-conductors needed for production.

When I deliver to the Ford plant in South Chicago, it's like a ghost town in there compared to how much of a pain it is to usually get in and out.

That's just one example, companies the world over are facing this shortage. Covid really screwed things up, and we'll be feeling it's effects well into next year most likely.

I know it seems most people don't want bundles, but it seems to be the best bet to actually get a PS5.

A lot of people like to talk crap about GameFly, but being a GameFly member, I was able to easily grab a PS5 bundle. It was far more expensive, but I'm already a subscriber, so I just paid my subscription up front for 9 months plus got an extra controller and Spider-Man: Miles Morales. Not a big deal since I've been with them for nearly 12 years. Gotta demo games somehow since developers hardly make them these days.

Eh, I would call this a State of Play, considering 95% of it was just a Ratchet and Clank demo.

Don't get me wrong, I can hardly wait for R&C, bit they should have just released it as a stand alone trailer/reaveal or whatever. Eh 🤷‍♂️

Ah! I see Sony is taking a page out of Nintendo's book. Oh that sweet, sweet, stability!

Returnal?

Oh, never mind, I was just dreaming. Haha

I rented Godfall, I would never buy it, but I would finish it if it came to PS+.

Ha, watch it be Anthem!

If it's not something new, hopefully we get the GBA/DS Castlevania games in a collection.

I'd also love current gen versions of the 3 Lord's of Shadow games. The 1st was excellent, the 3DS game was good, and I never really played LoS2 due to the timing of its release near the launch of the PS4/XB1. Or at least it was on my to play list until them, and it's been backlogged ever since. Yes, I've heard it wasn't great, but I'd still like to go back to it.

@ShogunRok

Ha, I almost missed that ! almost

@LiamCroft

Wow, better than I had imagined!

Thanks a lot! 👍