So Xbox is just....dire, Switch is doing shockingly well only 8% down this far and it's on its 7th year, and PS5 is selling as it should have done since launch.
@Amnesiac If it's anything's like Bloombergs false reports on Nintendo to the point they had to create an investors relations Twitter account to refute the stuff hard....minimal impact on consumers at best.
@get2sammyb True. But this is Game Freak. They did Legends, guided BDSP, did Little Town Hero and Sword and Shield DLC all simultaneously alongside Scarlet and Violet.
Right now we know of Project Bloom, SV DLC, probably the next two Pokemon games in the world already.
One of these has got to give, and Pokemon can definitely get worse. Way worse.
It's a shame Game Freak just can't get the manpower to do all the things it wants to do because with that they'd consistently have good games. Maybe with that nice new office space Nintendo just gave them...
They seem unwilling to realise that yeah, these are all different genres, but you're going to need to either start pulling people away from their current handful of choice, or do the impossible and make an additional one that people also somehow find time to play.
And when you make that many in such a short time? Most of them won't stick.
Game of the Year is gonna be wild this year. Top rated games this far are a remaster of Metroid, a remake of Dead Space and a remake of Resident Evil 4.
@Khayl To be fair, Metroid Prime Remastered isn't on their website either, but they sure as heck are in the credits for running support on the game. Odd.
This guy has said a lot of different things about the console manufacturers lately, to the point at least two of them had to come out and outright (In one case very very bluntly) refute the claims to investor relations, because what he says is gonna cause issues when it comes out he was wrong and the market takes it as gospel.
It never made sense since the Hermit Koco takes seeds and upgrades both Offense and Defense in bulk in one go. So having Elder Koco require you to pick and choose each level for both Rings and Speed one by one was bizarre, including the lengthy animation and delay on the menu.
But then upon finding out that you can use Hermit Koco to transfer levels from Rings to Speed or vice versa, which almost logically you think since its not a choice and just transferring from one to the other, you can choose how many levels to swap.
May have something to do with needing either an SSD, or 32GB of RAM if installing into a hard drive, just so the game can load everything it needs to like on PS5.
As more PS5 only games the jump, expect to see that requirement a lot.
And here we go. Epic has Fortnite, Rocket League and Fall Guys. They tried a 4th game, and realised that yeah, people don't have the time or funds to devote to that many at once. So something has to give. Even when the juggernaut does it.
Heck look at all the others that have come and gone from smaller publishers.
And here we have Sony wanting 12 of them in a matter of years. We all know what's gonna happen.
Either only one or two land and the rest are a sunk cost, or none of them land because yet again, people already have their live services of choice and won't budge.
Dropping the boost after Frontiers wouldn't be weird, given it no longer damages enemies as of Frontiers, and is only used for speed and getting from A to B faster. Even then, the boost doesn't actually make you any faster in 2D.
So it's gone from what it was to only actually doing anything in 3D and not damaging enemies anymore.
But removing it would require making traversal of large open spaces speedier. Sure we have the Drop Dash now, so maybe just bring back the Spin Dash?
Only thing the boost really adds now is the air boost anyway.
@dasd2 Not gonna happen. Historically Sonic games have sold best on Nintendo systems even when multiplatform. Heck, Colours surpassed the HD version of Unleashed if I remember correctly. The only exceptions were the Wii U ones, obviously.
So as long as SEGA wants to target that market, and for Sonic there will always be a need for that large market, then it won't be next gen only. They tried that once.
1) Sonic Frontiers was remarkably mediocre. I dont think it was deserving of an award, regardless of how good it was relative to the series as a whole.
2) The Horizon joke was a popular meme in 2017, which I replied to what I assumed was a similar style joke from yourself. Apologies.
@MisterXpoSay But Sony would get the same money from CoD then as they do now. They get their split of third party sales, the rest goes to the publisher. It's in this case the publisher would be Microsoft, not Activision. Sony would get the same 30%.
They're just arguing against something Microsoft has repeatedly said they won't do, and would be stupid to do: once they own CoD, they go from 30% of the revenue on Xbox, to 100% of the revenue on Xbox, plus 70% on Playstation, Steam and Nintendo.
In what world Sony really thinks ANY business would be that stupid is beyond me and this legally binding contract now proves it.
What this really is is Sony crying about losing the marketing rights that propelled PS+. They get the same revenue from the games and IAPs.
@Cyrus29 Maybe, maybe not. Nintendo budgets are lower, the hardware sells at a profit, and the games sell so well that the massive additional profits fund other games, whereas for Sony and Microsoft it would seem that while games turn out profitable, the lower (relatively) sales means less profit overall given those games also have far higher budgets, which means whatever they make back goes largely into the next entry, not other games as well, thus higher prices to offset that.
It's the one place where you can argue Nintendo stepping away from the power race has helped. Games for them are $60, cheaper to make, much more profit with massive sales funds everything else. I recall Miyamoto said Breath of the Wild needed to shift 2 million copies to make a profit. And you can bet all that Mario Kart money isn't going into Mario Kart 9, but games to expand the library that won't do as well like Bayonetta.
There's some black comedy in Sony throwing a fit about Xbox potentially taking games away from them that they've had for years when that's how Sony themselves started.
@LifeGirl It's not a lot of money in November 2022.
It was even less money in September 2022.
But it'll be more money than now in January 2023.
Sure, most adults pay the difference every few days on other things. Other things they need. And that's going to become tighter and tighter.
That £16? That's a week of travel too and from work. And as management on just above minimum wage? That £16 I could spend on PS+ Premium for things I'm not going to use, or don't work great like the streaming, or having little to no value added to it each month? That's gonna have to go into something that gives value.
Subjective yes, but people place needs before wants and they then divide what little wants they can have by value offered.
I remember in Rift Apart I couldn't find a Gold Bolt that was on the map. Turns out it was in the only return trip in the game, in a new area right at the end, and using the PS5 Help feature, it showed me all the current plot missions too.
@Milktastrophe This months premium of loads of PS3 Ratchet gaames despite 4 of them being PS2 games that could be played natively on the system if they tried.
And lets not forget how they did with Sly as well for Premium.
And how both those Sly games and all these Ratchet games were er....how do we say this....on PS Now before the rebrand but got taken down so they can add them back again a few months later?
This is objectively being given the same thing you had before after it had been taken away to give it a new name, and now you pay more for it.
LA Noire did this on PS4 too. 4GB on disc, download the rest.
Heck I think most disc based games do that now. The medium can't keep up with file sizes as is, so most companies won't even bother even if it would fit.
As long as the emulation is better than the slowdown infested PS1 Classics on PS3 (Only the downloaded ones though, discs work fine), or the buggy remasters on PS3, or the 1080p Jak ports on PS4 with frame rate issues for some reason.
Or the PS Classic.
Actually I think it's best we see results before expecting this to be good.
@Blaze215 People dont buy the same games over and over.
What you'll find is happening, is every person that buys a new system, will wants games to play on said system. So with every new console sold, a game will go with it.
In that case, the game's that go with it, are likely to be the most readily available, easily understood and widest appeal titles.
As such, for every Switch, per your example, that is sold, the odds that a new purchaser buys a communal experience like Animal Crossing, a popular kids experience like Minecraft, or a simple pick up and play fun title like Mario Kart, is exceptionally high.
Think about how FIFA stays in the charts. Every time someone buys a new PS4 or Xbox, especially here in football country, they will buy FIFA for that system. It is one of if not the most mass market titles ever, to the point older games are going for 20p due to flooding the pre-owned market, as each game sells so well but loses its value exactly one year later to the point of being worthless.
Then, because people want the next version, FIFA 23 will shoot up the charts and stay there.
It is a long sustainable game of retaining consumers, and with each new console sold to someone, said games are likely to go with it.
So no, it's not just a Switch thing, it just feels that way because the system has many, many evergreen titles.
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Re: Sony Will Not Attend Giant German Convention Gamescom This Year
You know it's bad when even Nintendo is going and they have nothing announced past July yet.
Re: PS5 Console Sales Up an Impressive 81% This Year in the UK
So Xbox is just....dire, Switch is doing shockingly well only 8% down this far and it's on its 7th year, and PS5 is selling as it should have done since launch.
All three are surprising for different reasons.
Re: Sony's PS5 Remote Play Handheld Will Have Haptic Feedback, Adaptive Triggers
The battery on this is gonna be "Moderately lower" than the Dualsense Edge then.
Re: PSVR2 Sales at 600,000 Six Weeks After Launch, Sony Confirms
@Amnesiac If it's anything's like Bloombergs false reports on Nintendo to the point they had to create an investors relations Twitter account to refute the stuff hard....minimal impact on consumers at best.
Re: Pokémon Dev Reveals Project Bloom, New IP Funded by GTA Owner
@get2sammyb True. But this is Game Freak. They did Legends, guided BDSP, did Little Town Hero and Sword and Shield DLC all simultaneously alongside Scarlet and Violet.
Right now we know of Project Bloom, SV DLC, probably the next two Pokemon games in the world already.
One of these has got to give, and Pokemon can definitely get worse. Way worse.
It's a shame Game Freak just can't get the manpower to do all the things it wants to do because with that they'd consistently have good games. Maybe with that nice new office space Nintendo just gave them...
Re: Pokémon Dev Reveals Project Bloom, New IP Funded by GTA Owner
Either this is a small team working on it, or the Pokemon games are about to get even worse 🤣
Re: Sony: We're Not Just Creating 10 Live Service Destiny or Fortnite Games
They seem unwilling to realise that yeah, these are all different genres, but you're going to need to either start pulling people away from their current handful of choice, or do the impossible and make an additional one that people also somehow find time to play.
And when you make that many in such a short time? Most of them won't stick.
But if even one sticks, it's good money.
Re: Atari Has Acquired the Rights to One of PS1's Worst Ever Games
Have they acquired Bubsy, or specifically Bubsy 3D?
Re: Star Wars Jedi: Survivor's PS5 File Size Is Ridiculous
So it's not even going to be all on the disc 🤣Might be a few gigs and then download the rest
Re: Resident Evil 4's PS5, PS4 Sales in the UK Leave Xbox to the Los Ganados
Game of the Year is gonna be wild this year. Top rated games this far are a remaster of Metroid, a remake of Dead Space and a remake of Resident Evil 4.
Re: UK Sales Charts: Strong PS5 Sales Put The Last of Us 2, Gran Turismo 7 Back in the Top 10
@Flaming_Kaiser Or how Xbox worked with the 360.
They've all done it, but you can't claim any of them had truly organic success. It's a mix of dumb luck, coercion and borderline bribery.
Re: UK Sales Charts: Strong PS5 Sales Put The Last of Us 2, Gran Turismo 7 Back in the Top 10
@4kgk2 Sony earned the right to dominate through "natural" means?
Don't look up how they got all those games to go to the PS1. And how they kept it that way.
Re: The Last of Us PC Is Still Punishing CPUs, Despite 14GB Performance Patch
@Khayl To be fair, Metroid Prime Remastered isn't on their website either, but they sure as heck are in the credits for running support on the game. Odd.
Re: Sonic Mania Dev Confirms It Helped SEGA with Sonic Origins Plus
Gonna say they did the first release too, and considering the games aren't being emulated, rather natively running new versions, it makes sense.
It's just they gave those new (or existing remakes for three of the games) to SEGA to slap into the Hedgehog Engine and THEN the problems began.
Re: PSVR2 Sales Off to a 'Slow Start', New Report Claims
This guy has said a lot of different things about the console manufacturers lately, to the point at least two of them had to come out and outright (In one case very very bluntly) refute the claims to investor relations, because what he says is gonna cause issues when it comes out he was wrong and the market takes it as gospel.
So yeah, lets not put any weight in this.
Re: Sonic Frontiers' Worst PS5, PS4 Trophy No Longer Gnaws At Your Soul
It never made sense since the Hermit Koco takes seeds and upgrades both Offense and Defense in bulk in one go. So having Elder Koco require you to pick and choose each level for both Rings and Speed one by one was bizarre, including the lengthy animation and delay on the menu.
But then upon finding out that you can use Hermit Koco to transfer levels from Rings to Speed or vice versa, which almost logically you think since its not a choice and just transferring from one to the other, you can choose how many levels to swap.
Nope. One at a time.
So thank god they added this in.
Re: Rumour: Sonic Origins Plus Adds Amy, Game Gear Titles in June on PS5, PS4
It's a shame the ports weren't emulated.
Re: Sony Wants You to Sit Up Straight While You're Playing PS5, PS4
@Gremio108 It's 12pm somewhere bud.
Re: Returnal Is Sony's Second Most Unpopular PC Game at Launch
May have something to do with needing either an SSD, or 32GB of RAM if installing into a hard drive, just so the game can load everything it needs to like on PS5.
As more PS5 only games the jump, expect to see that requirement a lot.
Re: PS2's Best-Selling Console Crown in Jeopardy As Nintendo Switch Passes PS4
Handheld gaming console.
It's a console. A console is a device designed for the interface of a user to data in some interactive fashion.
Therefore a device that requires a user to interact is by the broadest definition a console.
Granted, this is in the same way you fridge is a computer.
All medicines are drugs but not all drugs are medicines.
Re: PS5, PS4 Battle Royale Brawler Rumbleverse Shutting Down After Just Six Months
And here we go. Epic has Fortnite, Rocket League and Fall Guys. They tried a 4th game, and realised that yeah, people don't have the time or funds to devote to that many at once. So something has to give. Even when the juggernaut does it.
Heck look at all the others that have come and gone from smaller publishers.
And here we have Sony wanting 12 of them in a matter of years. We all know what's gonna happen.
Either only one or two land and the rest are a sunk cost, or none of them land because yet again, people already have their live services of choice and won't budge.
Re: Sonic Team Veteran Considering Ditching the Boost System for Next Game
Dropping the boost after Frontiers wouldn't be weird, given it no longer damages enemies as of Frontiers, and is only used for speed and getting from A to B faster. Even then, the boost doesn't actually make you any faster in 2D.
So it's gone from what it was to only actually doing anything in 3D and not damaging enemies anymore.
But removing it would require making traversal of large open spaces speedier. Sure we have the Drop Dash now, so maybe just bring back the Spin Dash?
Only thing the boost really adds now is the air boost anyway.
Re: PS5 Soars in Japan After Sony Said Stock Issues Are Resolved
@NintenGuy Persona 5 PS5 also dropped of the charts like a hit rock.
Maybe Japan is fed up of Persona 5 after it's third rerelease.
Re: Sonic Frontiers Speeds Past 2.5 Million Sales in Its First Month
@dasd2 Not gonna happen. Historically Sonic games have sold best on Nintendo systems even when multiplatform. Heck, Colours surpassed the HD version of Unleashed if I remember correctly. The only exceptions were the Wii U ones, obviously.
So as long as SEGA wants to target that market, and for Sonic there will always be a need for that large market, then it won't be next gen only. They tried that once.
Re: Sonic Fanbase Heartbroken Over The Game Awards Loss
@NintenGuy No, I couldn't give a toss about the Game Awards. It's always gone on for too long and felt too....artificial, I suppose is the word.
I also happened to be asleep so just saw who won what and called it a day while reading any interesting news.
No hard feelings though, it's an older meme sir, but it checks out.
Re: Sonic Fanbase Heartbroken Over The Game Awards Loss
@NintenGuy Two points.
1) Sonic Frontiers was remarkably mediocre. I dont think it was deserving of an award, regardless of how good it was relative to the series as a whole.
2) The Horizon joke was a popular meme in 2017, which I replied to what I assumed was a similar style joke from yourself. Apologies.
Re: Sonic Fanbase Heartbroken Over The Game Awards Loss
@NintenGuy Sonic Frontiers got no awards.
Horizon also got no awards this time as well as in 2017, as per the internet meme "Horizon Zero Awards", circa December 2017 or thereabouts.
Explanation fulfilled. Sorry if the joke was too obtuse.
Re: Sonic Fanbase Heartbroken Over The Game Awards Loss
@NintenGuy Same goes for Horizon then
Re: Microsoft Invites Sony to Sign Its Own 10-Year Call of Duty Deal
@MisterXpoSay But Sony would get the same money from CoD then as they do now. They get their split of third party sales, the rest goes to the publisher. It's in this case the publisher would be Microsoft, not Activision. Sony would get the same 30%.
They're just arguing against something Microsoft has repeatedly said they won't do, and would be stupid to do: once they own CoD, they go from 30% of the revenue on Xbox, to 100% of the revenue on Xbox, plus 70% on Playstation, Steam and Nintendo.
In what world Sony really thinks ANY business would be that stupid is beyond me and this legally binding contract now proves it.
What this really is is Sony crying about losing the marketing rights that propelled PS+. They get the same revenue from the games and IAPs.
Re: PS5 Games Likely to Remain $70 as Xbox Bumps Prices
@Cyrus29 Maybe, maybe not. Nintendo budgets are lower, the hardware sells at a profit, and the games sell so well that the massive additional profits fund other games, whereas for Sony and Microsoft it would seem that while games turn out profitable, the lower (relatively) sales means less profit overall given those games also have far higher budgets, which means whatever they make back goes largely into the next entry, not other games as well, thus higher prices to offset that.
It's the one place where you can argue Nintendo stepping away from the power race has helped. Games for them are $60, cheaper to make, much more profit with massive sales funds everything else. I recall Miyamoto said Breath of the Wild needed to shift 2 million copies to make a profit. And you can bet all that Mario Kart money isn't going into Mario Kart 9, but games to expand the library that won't do as well like Bayonetta.
Re: Everybody's Favourite Exec Shuhei Yoshida Says Final Fantasy and Dragon Quest Saved PlayStation
There's some black comedy in Sony throwing a fit about Xbox potentially taking games away from them that they've had for years when that's how Sony themselves started.
Re: 20 More PS Plus Extra, Premium Games Available Now on PS5, PS4
@LifeGirl It's not a lot of money in November 2022.
It was even less money in September 2022.
But it'll be more money than now in January 2023.
Sure, most adults pay the difference every few days on other things. Other things they need. And that's going to become tighter and tighter.
That £16? That's a week of travel too and from work. And as management on just above minimum wage? That £16 I could spend on PS+ Premium for things I'm not going to use, or don't work great like the streaming, or having little to no value added to it each month? That's gonna have to go into something that gives value.
Subjective yes, but people place needs before wants and they then divide what little wants they can have by value offered.
And to many Premium is low down that list.
Re: PSA: Watch Out for God of War Ragnarok Spoilers on Your Own PS5 or PS4
I remember in Rift Apart I couldn't find a Gold Bolt that was on the map. Turns out it was in the only return trip in the game, in a new area right at the end, and using the PS5 Help feature, it showed me all the current plot missions too.
So even Sony does it themselves.
Re: PS Plus Premium Members Bemused by Sony Once Again
@Milktastrophe This months premium of loads of PS3 Ratchet gaames despite 4 of them being PS2 games that could be played natively on the system if they tried.
And lets not forget how they did with Sly as well for Premium.
And how both those Sly games and all these Ratchet games were er....how do we say this....on PS Now before the rebrand but got taken down so they can add them back again a few months later?
This is objectively being given the same thing you had before after it had been taken away to give it a new name, and now you pay more for it.
Re: Bungie Is Concerned PS5 Players are Unwittingly Playing the PS4 Version of Destiny 2
@Luigia 130m? They stopped giving numbers at 117m
Re: Just 70MB of Data Contained on the Modern Warfare 2 Disc
LA Noire did this on PS4 too. 4GB on disc, download the rest.
Heck I think most disc based games do that now. The medium can't keep up with file sizes as is, so most companies won't even bother even if it would fit.
Re: NieR: Automata's Producer Threatened to Leave Square Enix in Order to Get the Game Made
I'm fairly sure his next project ended up being Voice of Cards, based on the date in that tweet.
Re: Konami Announcing New Game from a 'World-Loved Series' at TGS
Well it's not a new Bomberman, that already got announced in a Nintendo Direct.
So....Yu-Gi-Oh probably. Though didn't that already get a game lately?
Re: 21.7 Million PS5 Consoles Shipped by End of June 2022
@uptownsoul No?
It shows that Xbox, as we see in monthyl reports, is selling plenty of cheaper Series S consoles that will therefore generate less revenue.
A £250 console that sells 100,000 units will generate less revenue than a console at £350 that sells 100,000 units.
Revenue is not profit, nor fully indicative of demand.
Heck, PS5 Hardware generates more dollar sales than Switch and Xbox hardware on the regular. But it doesnt generate the most unit sales.
Re: 21.7 Million PS5 Consoles Shipped by End of June 2022
@uptownsoul Xbox revenue being down makes sense. They have a far far cheaper and more widely available model.
Whereas the PS5 is pushing out the more expensive model over it's not as cheap, cheaper model.
So higher revenue.
Re: Fall Guys, Sonic Collaboration Seemingly Imminent as Bean Hill Zone Level Leaks
I've seen it's level icon in the between round stage selector.
So that's something
Re: Strange Multiplayer Spinoff Dragon Ball: The Breakers Hunts Down October Release Date
Wonder if they took feedback from the CBT on Dragon Ball Breakers.
Don't look at me like that. That's the abbreviation they used.
Re: PlayStation Action Figures, Playsets, Plushes, and More Promised in New Toy Making Partnership
"Get the new Abbie figure set now, complete with Clickers, real bat swinging action! Joel head parts sold separately via blind bags."
Ooh, I got a portion of his left forehead!
Re: Sony's INZONE $899 Gaming Monitor Will Automatically Optimise PS5's HDR
Why is Sony sponsoring the tournament they own? Bit weird.
But yeah that's a bit expensive but much like Apple you're paying for the brand here.
Re: Fall Guys Has 20 Million Players After Free-to-Play Release
@JustPlainLoco Oh, it's not temporary
Re: Shantae, the Original GBC Platformer, Belly Dances to PS5, PS4
I could have swore this was already announced.
Re: Sonic Frontiers Combat Is Looking Rough in New Gameplay Video
@ShogunRok The sad part is SEGA admitted it was delayed from 2021 already before reveal because they wanted to make a good game.
That implies that when it was still internally aimed at 2021....it wasn't a good game, and this is better than that.
Re: PS Plus Subscriber Count Slightly Down Year-on-Year to 47.4 Million
I cant see the subscriber count going too far higher. Over 50m? Sure. 60m? Probably not.
Hence the tiers. More money per subscriber. That's the way to make PS+ look better to the suits.
Re: Looks Like Sony Is Hiring for a 'Newly Created Game Preservation Team'
As long as the emulation is better than the slowdown infested PS1 Classics on PS3 (Only the downloaded ones though, discs work fine), or the buggy remasters on PS3, or the 1080p Jak ports on PS4 with frame rate issues for some reason.
Or the PS Classic.
Actually I think it's best we see results before expecting this to be good.
Re: UK Sales Charts: Gran Turismo 7 Falls Behind While LEGO Star Wars' Reign Continues
@Blaze215 People dont buy the same games over and over.
What you'll find is happening, is every person that buys a new system, will wants games to play on said system. So with every new console sold, a game will go with it.
In that case, the game's that go with it, are likely to be the most readily available, easily understood and widest appeal titles.
As such, for every Switch, per your example, that is sold, the odds that a new purchaser buys a communal experience like Animal Crossing, a popular kids experience like Minecraft, or a simple pick up and play fun title like Mario Kart, is exceptionally high.
Think about how FIFA stays in the charts. Every time someone buys a new PS4 or Xbox, especially here in football country, they will buy FIFA for that system. It is one of if not the most mass market titles ever, to the point older games are going for 20p due to flooding the pre-owned market, as each game sells so well but loses its value exactly one year later to the point of being worthless.
Then, because people want the next version, FIFA 23 will shoot up the charts and stay there.
It is a long sustainable game of retaining consumers, and with each new console sold to someone, said games are likely to go with it.
So no, it's not just a Switch thing, it just feels that way because the system has many, many evergreen titles.