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@EddieGallad I dunno, Phil Harrison tends to be attached to any product that's a shuffling corpse at launch.

@themightyant Mate people were talking about Switch 2 a week after the original launched. That system had it real bad. So 4 years for PS6 talk ain't bad, and to be fair, this is a unique situation given how much of a rut this hardware has felt like

Looks like it's around in line with World and Rise assuming half of sales are digital.

Though those games did 1.3m physical in their launch weeks. So maybe not. Hard to say

Given this game was so technically demanding it took until the Series X to hit 60fps at 720p is mad.

Shows why they gutted most of the visual features in successive games. There hasn't been a Sonic title that looks as good as this yet.

"When a game is a late port it's often cheaper or has extras"

Unless you're called Nintendo Switch at which point it's always the same as original launch price or more expensive than originally and the market shows that that's A-OK.

Welcome aboard!

Having started with Rise, I figured sure. Saw the performance, decided it was time to go all in on PC because what happened there.

@Czar_Khastik Yep, discless consoles dominate the hardware charts.

Less impressive or concerning when three of them use cartridges and not discs

That'd be impressive given Jade hasn't released a game for over a decade and keeps cashing checks with big companies buying her talent.

Can't wait for the 8K IMax remaster of Season 1 just before season 3 launches in checks notes 2027/2028

Just upgraded my GPU for this game. Cant wait. Plus I wont need to upgrade any components for another few years (And that's the most expensive one). Currently getting over PS5 Pro performance in the beta, great stuff.

"Overwhelming support"? You're saying people liked it?!

And then framing its failure as "It was an anniversary game lmao".

What.

@Lowdefal Except Nintendo doesn't own Intelligent Systems, so that IS a partnership. This is a fully owned subsidiary of Sony.

"the next step in our partnership".

It's not a partnership. You own them.

@Bigmanfan That's because you're a beta cuck. Anyway, where we dropping boys

It's amazing what you find when doing the one handed search for Honkais

@nessisonett But he cant be homophobic, he worked with Elliot Page!

Or whatever his excuse was.

I expect console ports. Probably won't use the touchpad though. May use the mouse mode on Switch 2 though, if EA feels fancy.

To be fair, all he said was it wouldn't be on the next-generation console.

He didn't say it would be on PS5.

You know Xbox is dead when it declines faster than the 8 year old full price system. Jesus.

@ButterySmooth30FPS Let's be thankful for what we have.

Several studio closures, layoffs, and no games from these teams that didn't get killed off for at least 10 years due to protracted development times.

@Wardenknight133 I'm starting to think Sony is so dense light bends around them.

We all riff on Xbox for failing to sell hardware and barely getting games out with seemingly endless developer times, but Sony isn't doing much better. Endless hardware releasing, some of it barely supported like VR, and mismanaging and closing studios with lengthy dev times just like Xbox is.

I understand that games are getting more expensive but if they hadn't built a brand on exclusively big expensive pretty games and kept smaller games around even if they didn't perform well, they wouldn't need to be searching for live service gold to make up the shortfall.

But now that shortfall is absolutely massive as a result.

You can't spend billions on studios and live service games in the hopes that one of your 12 games in 5 years is a hit, because you can't pull people from their current live service titles (sunk cost fallacy) and time is limited, but also because the odds of that one hit making up the opportunity cost of all your other games you didn't make, but also the money lost on 11 games you made just in case isn't going to cover it.

Hang on. So if Naughty Dog was working on their scifi game, plus a live service. Santa Monica is working on....something. Guerrilla is working on a live service. Bluepoint was live service. Bend was live service. Sucker Punch is Ghost of Yotei, Insomniac is Wolverine....

They've actually had more live service games in development than anything else across their whole slate this entire time. And the ones they saw fit to release were Helldivers, Concord, Marathon and Fairgames?

Jesus christ....

That is a collective 11 years of development time.

11 years.

You bought Bluepoint on the basis of their remake skills and had them make a live service? WHAT?!

@Keyblade-Dan @RBMango Ubiflaccid. Come on now.

Also, let's increase our company value by creating a new company, moving over some IP for assuming very little cash, and not dealing with 19000 employees and insane problems the company will still have

@ShogunRok True. They're the top rated Warriors games. Or Warriors franchise crossover titles. Or whatever the hell they call em.

Well, there's Persona 5 Strikers and Fire Emblem Warriors Three Hopes that are 83 and 80 respectively.

@GymratAmarillo I think part of why people are holding this view is exactly because of one thing you said and you don't realise it:

When people stop playing Marvel, Cod, Fortnite, Genshin etc.

That's the problem. Time for games is limited, and you aren't going to pull people away from the sunk cost fallacy that is a live service they're already in.

System at peak of life available for 12 months will outsell new unannounced system at unknown price if available for 7 months.

Don't need to be an analyst to work the math out on that do ya.

What a wild story.

Also, if Game Freak's next game turns out to be whatever they were doing for Private Division and not Legends Z-A, I'll be stunned.

Then again, we know about as much for one as the other so who knows.

Maybe Pokémon really is getting more time in the oven. So long it'll burn

@AfroMario It's not settling for tech that's 10 years old.

ARM and mobile chips have not been a focus of the tech industry until the mid 2010s, when they started being comparable to power guzzling stationary chipsets.

What we are seeing is the modern loss of why raw numbers matter. Teraflops are pointless, even PlayStation is saying that now. It's about feature sets, APIs, upscaling technology, software based solutions.

If this chip is based on what shipping data and Nvidia leaks say it is, we're looking at a chip that is at most 4-5 years old in terms of what its based on.

Yes, its pure performance raw numbers might be equivalent to the old laptop CPU in a PS4 (That was outdated even in 2012 by the way!), but everything else is significantly more modern, more power efficient, cooler running and easier to use by virtue of the tech being made in 2020-2022.

What we know is this thing is using features from the 20series GPUs, with feature ported down from the 30 series, with modern DLSS, custom APIs like any console has, and is going to be a chip smaller than your smallest fingernail, with a fan you can fit in the palm of your hand to cool it, running off of a battery.

So sure, its not comparable to 10 year old tech. It's more than that, because those raw numbers simply do not matter anymore.

@nomither6 Raw performance is a term most often used to describe pixel counts and FPS, how a game performs, thus performance.

What a game is doing with a systems power isn't necessarily how it performs. It impacts it but it's not the main focus anymore.

But this is also the english language so it's one of those things where your view determines if it is or not. shrug

We live in an age where raw performance simply doesn't matter anymore. There is no value in pushing 4000 pixels every 33 milliseconds when you can push 1000 and have upscaling do the rest, leaving processing power for doing other things like better effects, bigger worlds, more complex AI....

But in terms of marketing, bigger number is easier to sell. So who the hell knows.

Gargantuan honkais you say?

Oh I do love my mole wife. You should come around sometime, with your mole wife.

As a northerner this game resonates with me in every way. I'll have that for ten bob.

@PerpetualBoredom This is with a union. 😭

I get one government mandated day off, but am working every day right up until then doing three jobs at once, for at least 12 hours a day. And then I'm on alarm call out duty for Christmas Day.

And to be honest, I'd rather that than gaming, given the recent loss of a loved one the past weeks, and work at least keeps me intensely focused, if nothing else.

Happy holidays!

@nomither6 So this data implies that the PS2 lifetime sales have been surpassed.

That's 2000 to 2013. Surpassed by a system that has had no price cuts, in just shy of 8 years.

I'm not sure where you're getting the 30 years thing from, the system hasn't been selling for as long as I've been breathing.

It took 10 years for him to do something decent, and this is including the fact he has been doing THREE SHOWS a year for several years now and we finally got something noteworthy.

The downside to all this is how centralised the reveals process has become around this guy, with State of Plays being miss more than hit and Nintendo Directs seeming to die a death this year, it's been Keighley or bust.

Which to be fair, extreme consolation is the games industry mantra.

Who hinted at that, Ed Sullivan?

Anyway, yeah, Keighley did manage to turn TGA into the biggest gaming event of the year.

In the same way the PS4 managed to surpass its competitors: Pure damn coincidence that everyone else fell over the rakes first.

My wrap up last year was entertaining.

"You need to play your PS5 for more than 10 hours this year".

As someone who grew up on the PS1 and Mega Drive, then exclusively PS2 and PSP, this is cool.

But also just a further affirmation that Sony is dead set on shedding what made many people like the brand in the first place.

@get2sammyb We've got until April 1st to come up with something Sammy. We need a K-pop day

Yep. That sure is a news story on a PlayStation website.

Rebrand to PushSeoul maybe? 2025 gonna be wild.

Hang on. Why wouldnt you report to investors that you very cheap, at the time 12 year old system sold an extra 5m in that period?

@Member_the_game To be fair, Sony prices things in £££ at the same level as $$$. So it says $400 but we all know it means £400 as well, because that's how they roll.

@ChrisDeku Well the good news is more and more games are shipping at less than 1080p and being upscaled up lmao

I wonder if the cost of changing it back will be done by Sony or the taxpayers

@Juanalf Because Sony has trained their consumers to expect the premium, best performance out of their hardware. It's why the budgets keep ballooning and costs keep going up.

So running games natively on a handheld would either require some rather expensive hardware to run cool and battery efficient to get equivalent PS5 performance at an even remotely reasonable price, or battery tech needs to advance like mad to accommodate that power draw.

The PS5 Pro is a more capable and slightly more power efficient machine than the PS5, but that's still a wall bound power guzzling beast. Shrinking that down without sacrificing performance (and this requiring developers to create ANOTHER performance profile for a handheld) while lasting a decent time isn't easy.

I mean, this is the company that has batteries larger than the Switch Pro Controller in their controllers, but they last a quarter of the time.

Plus, Steam Deck benefits from using existing Steam builds of games, with a range of often intricate scalability on the user end to accommodate the Deck's far lower power profile than most PCs. Plus Valve made a comparability layer to ease the transition.

Sony would need to ensure this prospective device is on the same architecture as PS5, affordable, power efficient, without making developers consider yet another spec sheet to target. Again, PC games already let users turn things on and off to suit a wide range of builds. PS5 builds are built for the PS5 with a toggle for graphics or performance.

Ah yes, the famous Nintendo exists in their own space and isn't our direct competition is now "Oh, 147m in 7 years? Let's be having some of that".

@PuppetMaster I don't think they expect high numbers either.

But I would hope they expected at least a thousand.

@PuppetMaster It was a good old ransomware I think, but they got access to source code for hardware, games, prototype games and unreleased hardware specs, beta builds, the lot. It was a fascinating read-through.