Update (27/4/22): This story has of course done the rounds this week, with many PlayStation fans excited about the prospect of game preservation meaning more legacy games hitting PS Plus Premium. In response, Garrett Fredley has made attempts to clarify his new role at the company.
The senior build engineer has provided a link to a GDC talk he held a few years ago, discussing his preservation work at EA. In it, Fredley explains what this all actually means. In very basic terms, preservation is the process of ensuring all aspects of a game and its creation are not only archived properly, but kept in a state in which it could feasibly be restored and brought back in the future. Obviously, he goes into much more detail in the video, but that's the gist. It seems like an incredibly complicated and technical job.
Fredley's responsibilities at PlayStation are "similar, although larger in scope," he says. We imagine that he and the other preservation staff will be working to archive Sony's back catalogue, but not necessarily for redistribution. It's impossible to know at this stage. He signs off by saying he's unsure if he'll be involved in emulation of any kind. It's all interesting stuff, anyway — best of luck to Fredley in his new role!
Original Story: A freshly hired engineer at PlayStation has revealed the existence of a game preservation division within the company.
Garrett Fredley took to social media to announce his new role, making mention of his new department at the platform holder. "Today is my first day as a Senior Build Engineer for PlayStation, working as one of their initial hires for the newly created Preservation team," Fredley says on LinkedIn. He explains that preserving games was his initial passion, and that he's glad to be moving to this role having gained experience elsewhere. "Let's go and ensure our industry's history isn't forgotten!"
The timing of this is interesting, given Sony's upcoming PS Plus Premium tier, which is set to include hundreds of titles from legacy platforms. Has this new preservation team been created to concentrate on bringing classic software onto this service? It's hard to say exactly.
As pointed out by VGC, Fredley's previous role at EA says he "solely led the preservation efforts for the FIFA franchise, resulting in the complete archival of multiple titles." Obviously, the publisher hasn't made a tonne of old FIFA games available to buy, so it seems game preservation could also simply mean archiving source code, art, and so on to ensure it isn't lost forever.
So, we don't know definitively whether this new team at PlayStation will be restoring old games to run on PS5 and PS4, or if it will simply be recovering code and assets to stash away for safekeeping. Again, though, the fact Sony will be including PS1, PS2, PS3, and PSP games in its top tier of PS Plus lines up rather nicely.
What do you think about this? Is Sony's new game preservation team working to bring more classic games to modern hardware, or is it something a little less exciting? Discuss in the comments section below.
[source twitter.com, via linkedin.com, videogameschronicle.com]
That is potentially VERY exciting news. Mind boggles at the possibilities.
Got to say one of my favourite features this gen (after SSD speed) is FPS boost on Xbox. Making old games play like modern ones with graphical and frame rate bumps is such a worthy cause.
Playing Games like Dishonored and Prey that previously played at a very unstable 20-30fps now playing at a locked 60fps is almost like playing a new game.
Imagine Bloodborne at a fixed 60. Excited!
Hopefully not a whiff.
Great news if Sony are taking this seriously but given his role at EA it may not be as consumer focused as we'd hope, as let's be honest the only way EA preserves FIFA is by releasing FIFA 12 on Switch every year
Please include disc support for PS3 tittles 🙏🏻 as I know PS5 can’t play PS1/2 discs
Extremely welcome news if true. Game preservation is something not enough companies take seriously
This team should have been created at least 3 years ago.
There used to be a time where almost every PS news got me excited.
This era there always seems to be some strings attached with every news that comes out of PS
This has excellent potential. Very much looking forward to June.
This can only be a good thing.
You always hear stories about how code is lost for one game or another due to IP being sold over and over. It's absolutely tragic when it happens.
If this is a task being done with the consumer in mind then hopefully it points to future expansions of legacy libraries.
Given the timing of this though it's probably a bit late in the day to be linked to the launch of the new service. It's probably a longer term task that came about due to someone underestimating how difficult it might be to recover some older titles and to get them ready for the new service.
Great news! Too many stories of games being lost forever. Sony finally realising nostalgia done right will bring with it rewards
As long as the emulation is better than the slowdown infested PS1 Classics on PS3 (Only the downloaded ones though, discs work fine), or the buggy remasters on PS3, or the 1080p Jak ports on PS4 with frame rate issues for some reason.
Or the PS Classic.
Actually I think it's best we see results before expecting this to be good.
Pray that it's not just a website that shows the history of the Playstation life cycle and best titles or something. I really hope this is something we can all look forward to.
I wish Sony would just announce the games! I don't know what's taking them so long...
I'll bet RTU on YouTube would still cherry pick holes in this somewhere. Whether Sony tries or not it's a 'damned if you do, damned if you don't' train for them these days.
Calling it now, his videos will be "BuT iT's StReAmInG!" Or "iT's BeHiNd A pAyWaLl!"
Atleast they're not completely ignoring it.
I hope this might be to do with Sony looking into getting PS3 native or downloadable.
@Luigia Unfortunately, I think this will involve Sony selling us the games again, given the current (mis)management, rather than allowing backwards compatibility.
Sounds good! I wish this man and his team good luck in their endeavors.
Definitely big news here showing a shift in Sony's attitude towards game preservation. Seems very unlikely that it wouldn't have anything to do with the new PS+ stuff considering the timing of it all.
Really hope they end up introducing resolution and FPS-boost-style features to PS2 and PSP titles available for download.
I really hope we can buy the backward compatible games outright and the games aren't exclusive to psplus subscritions (like nes/snes games on switch).
@Royalblues Yeah, backwards compatibility additions were consistently among the most exciting Xbox announcements.
This will most definitely be a back end thing.
The day of the tentacle had a climate controlled unit with original art and recordings stored in it. And these were eventually used to help create the remaster. This is most likely what this means, in some form or another.
It means very little to the customer unless the studio does a remaster, in which case, it's a damn sight better than what Konami did.
update "In very basic terms, preservation is the process of ensuring all aspects of a game and its creation are not only archived properly, but kept in a state in which it could feasibly be restored and brought back in the future."
So it's exactly what I said then.
Crazy how this is only just a thing.
Hopefully MooreLawIsDead can update us soon in relation to the PS3 BC
i'd love to know which ps1 games are gonna be included
This is great news, a bit weird their only assembling on the dawn of Spartacus...but hey, better late then never.
@AFCC What Are Some Of the Games You Hope they Put On the Service?
@sanderson72 I fear your probably right but let’s see. Microsoft support disc games so there’s hope 🙏🏻
They need an archaeological team to dig up and analyse what happened to the Vita.
This is the self-preservation society,
This is the self-preservation society"
I want to get excited but all I really want is PS1/2/3/4&5 disc playback on a PlayStation really
@themightyant Agree with FPS boost. I downloaded Tomb Raider Definition Edition not knowing it got any updates and was surprised to find it supports 60fps now (my tv was also detected Dolby Vision too which is pretty cool). Very nice.
@Victor_Meldrew If they did, they'd find a knife in its back with Sony's DNA all over it...
@Carl-G ditto. I really thought the 5 was going to go that way... but no. For me it should be the aim to take that possible.
@Areus the good old classics! But I want Ape Escape 3 lol
Better late than never, and considering Jim Ryan, never was the more likely option so this is only good news.
Give me Legend of Dragoon remake or remaster it like Square Enix did with that PSP game and i will be happy.
@BoldAndBrash Thats the power shift your feeling from a PS enthusiasts like Shawn Layden running the show to a sleazy business man like Jim Ryan. Give it a few more years and you won't even recognize the PS brand from the PS4 era. Their will be live service and mp games as far as the eye can see with Ryan running the show.
Insofar as the PS Plus Deluxe/Premium tiers go, legacy title emulation/testing surely would've been well under way for the titles they're adding!🤔
Still,if it were popular,adding to a dedicated "preservation team",would be a positive. Keep in mind they probably had a similar team during the short lived ps2 classics program on ps4!
Still,Insomniac did tweet (after the initial announcement),a ps2 Ratchet picture,so the potential is there they're putting in some quality titles.
Having found out local pricing Down Under for PS Plus Deluxe will be $155AU ,($80AU for12 month regular Ps Pllus currently),being nearly double & minus the PS Now features means the legacy titles would want to be good to justify the price! 🤔
Better late than never. Hope it's good stuff ahead for us old farts.
@AFCC Sony's Going To Be Like Nah We Giving You Um Jammer Lammy Lol Good Game Tho.
Jimmy boy with the typical American short term corporate strategy of bending down for shareholders, ruining a company for short term profit and then leaving.
I look forward to PS6, because literally only Returnal has me hyped
now we're talking
edit to reflect update: boooooooo
@Carl-G i can easily say that disc support isn't coming. i think people are just setting them self up for a let down if they think it is.
@sanderson72 the problem with that is you expect proper bc to happen and you'll be able to put your old ps disc into your ps5 , its not happening.
i love this i still play games from the 90s and onwards i would prefer pop my disc in and play it like i do on the ps3 i have. in the middle of restoring my snes with this retro bright method i like to preserve my games and consoles to.
@AFCC safe to assume there's still deals and licensing issues being worked out.
you can go back and look at something like silent hill when they went to remaster it , there was code missing or broken code. which they had to fix , and obviously it will never be the same or perfect. its still a pretty cool thing, but people also are reading into too much.
It's really obnoxious for these people who only really use Twitter to humble boast about their amazing jobs.
That said ANY form of preservation is important and I wish him well
@twitchtvpat Didn't think I suggested anything of the sort? Certainly don't expect emulation of the PS3 as I don't think the architecture of the PS5's x64 is conducive or powerful enough at trying to emulate the Cell with its distributed processing. PS1 and PS2 could've been handled by the PS4 so there's no way Sony will just allow it, not when Jimbob can sell it back to you at any rate.
I'm keeping my PS3 slim and the various discs I still play. I wonder if any DLC or online services will be revived or will that be another section of PlayStation legacy that will be left to rot, alongside the Vita?
@sanderson72 your exact wording was
"Sony selling us the games again, given the current (mis)management, rather than allowing backwards compatibility."
as if they could just , " allow" it. they've been pretty up front in there not being any b/c to the systems. its not like they've been misleading. the issue is people think something that will never happen will all of the sudden happen.
Doing a destiny & putting content in a 'vault' is all this sounds like
@twitchtvpat Ah, I think you've misunderstood my words. I didn't mean that they could just flick a switch and the backwards compatibility would exist, allowing people to use their own discs.
It would require time and effort to develop an effective b/c solution but we know a sort of PS2 emulator already exists as it's been seen on a couple of PS4 games. PS1 would also be a straightforward process so maybe this already exists too?
For PS3, as ever the fly in the ointment, I think that PS3 remasters or streaming are the best we can hope for as neither the PS4 or PS5 are going to be able to deliver an acceptable PS3 emulation unless Mark Cerny really has some magic up his sleeves.
New Sony aren't bothered or concerned by b/c unless it's something they can "sell us again". In the Layden era, I kind of get the feeling that they might have continued to develop the PS2 & PS1 BC engine, but given the laughable lack of PS1 & 2 titles on Now, maybe not.
Thankfully the PS5 is backwards compatible with the PS4 which has one of the best game libraries of all time, IMO.
@Ken_Kaniff Some people are idiots, Sony is a business
@Carl-G Only there is CD and reader in the console.
@sanderson72 There is no DVD or CD reader in the PS5 how would you fix that?
@Flaming_Kaiser True about the CD laser not being present (same as the PS4?) but the PS5 can play DVDs? I mean it's region locked and it'd certainly scupper PS1 and some early PS2 discs but it can read DVDs.
@Flaming_Kaiser my PlayStation5 plays DVDs no?
@Areus lmao Jammer Lammy would be a big troll
@Stocksy @sanderson72 Im sorry im misinformed i guess thought it didnt play them my apologies
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