GamerDad66

I wonder if the alleged space savings on PS5 SSD is real...

Sony can't drop everything on PS5.

That would only feed the scalpers...

You can't even buy a PS5 in stores and there's no end in sight.

They had to adapt their plan to the reality of the current situation.

Sony has more competition now, they can't just leave their player base behind.

Too bad they didn't announce the delisting ahead of time.

They could have got some last minute sales...

Now these games are going to be $50 physical at least.

I thought Saints Row was dead, they closed the Developer...

Never bought the PS3 digital, so I'm interested. Going on Plus would really rock.

That photo is terrible. They looks like tourists...

I hope there's some explanation as to what's going on there.

I'm more or less fine with both actors, but that doesn't look like Uncharted.

Not complaining, but Sony is making an example of CDPR.

Sony wants to make damn sure that no Developer pulls this crap again.

This game won't be truly complete and finished for years (like Witcher but much worse).

I didn't buy Squadrons due to the multiplayer focus...

But FREE is a whole different story. Hoping for VF too.

Sack-ed Boy?

Oooh Boy!

I think I'd rather spend $10 on the PS2 Classic for PS3.

It might not be quite as sharp, but I could buy the whole series for $50.

The Revenge of Ryan.

He....Laughs....Last!

I miss they days when Plus had more smaller, hidden gems.

I'd rather have Nex Machina than something I'd rather get physically anyway.

I support Sony's ability to protect itself and it's interests.

Epic probably agreed because they can't fight Apple and Sony.

Best defense is a good offence, also The Show should have never gone to GamePass.

It's hard to start new IPs, so even this basic step is still smart.

That also why Sony should have ordered a sequel to Days Gone.

Not everything catches fire right away, look at the games based on the Neir world.

I feel like specific game themes should always be free.

It's basically free advertising for the (potential) franchise.

I wish this game allowed you to play the Western or Eastern version.

It would have been a simple matter to make a new model for Father Neir and use his dialogue from the old game if necessary.

Not that I'm not interested in the brother character, but there were small dialogue changes and having both characters included would have been preferable and more complete.

I'm always fine with PS4 versions...

As long as you get a free PS5 upgrade.

Then you're just getting two-in-one with future proofing.

It's just good marketing due to massive PS4 install base and good customer service to make the buy-in uncomplicated.

Good cop....Bad cop.

It's almost like they just want to keep people taking.

Any press is good press?

Actually, there's probably a fair amount of people waiting for a number of reasons. The DLC bundle for Drakengard 3 is $29. But if the game got remastered for PS4 like Nier, then they would just wait for that. Same for Lords of Shadow or LoS2. Buying these games and all DLC would probably cost more than the cost of a remaster. But with the PS4 gen coming to an end, we now have more clarity on which games are being left behind and if the PS3 store closes then they would be gone for good. So this is a huge issue for people who care about games and owning games and the preservation of games.

I think you can have two (2) PS3 systems activated for download games. So you can use and play digital games on both freely. You can also have other PS3 systems (like an old phat) that you use just for games on disc too.

I'm genuinely relieved, but Sony isn't done making horrible decisions. I'm afraid we're going to have fight Jim Ryan every step of the way from here on out. All Sony cares about now is money and huge Metacritic tent-pole titles. But maybe, just maybe, they can still learn some humility, support their players, and get back to making good games of all sizes.

Drakengard 3 needed a GOTY physical reissue.

On PSN, the DLC bundle costs twice as much as the game.

I get what he's saying to some extent, Sony needs to have the artistic forsight to assess the value and impact of a new IP within the first year or so (not just launch window). These are complicated calculations, the value of a vibrant new IP is incalculable. Just ask Nintendo if they'd like a new IP. Sony made a mistake downsizing Japan Studio and canceling the Days Gone franchise.

Well worth spending $3.99 before the store closes.

Sonic CD is only $4.99 total.

Wow, so glad the game supports Move and Widescreen.

Was doubtful about both, till reading it here almost 10 years later.

Given the closure of Sony's legacy stores, $6.99 sounds like a bargain to me..

Wow, Sony just can't stop making it's longtime fans miserable.

What if I need to replace my PS3 HDD at some point?

In a weird way, Sony has pushed the PS5 completely off my radar. I'm now completely preoccupied with all the PS1/PS2/PS3+DLC/VITA digital games that I need to buy before Sony closes the store. For me, it only makes sense to focus my time and money on the games that will soon be lost. The PS5 will be cheaper and better in the years to come anyway. Nice work Jim Ryan.

With regards to the store closures, there's an amazing flurry of YouTube videos on great digital games for PS3/VITA/PSP. There's dozens of games and DLC that I'd like to and probably will get. I'd like to think Sony would run a sale or reverse their decision to close, but Sony is too big now to care what pesky customers want.

Sometimes I think I never should have signed up for Plus. Most of those Plus games got very cheap before being 'free'. I would've been better off just buying the games I wanted, without the need to subscribe forever.

Sony desperately needs an evangelist gamer CEO.

Someone who knows what PS fans want and value.

It's not just about the money, the foundation is rotting.

Jim Ryan is a cold, heartless, tiny man with no vision.

Sony has been all about the money for years now.

Most of what they've been doing is anti-consumer.

The bad decisions are starting to pile up fast.

Very soon it will be too late to change the narrative.

Will wait for Plus.

They will add it when player count has dropped and DLC is ready.

This is a new level of recklessness even for Sony. They practically killed PSVR when they suddenly announced that no PS5 games were allowed to support their own peripheral. Between the lack of BC and lack of support for smaller Devs, Sony is practically waving customers over to MS & Nintendo. Sony needs new management, before it's too late.

Reason #17 Not to Play this Game.

Well, maybe when it's free on Plus...

Our download list is only available for "the foreseeable future".

The next step is that we lose everything that we've purchased.

Brilliant marketing Sony!

To those who say, it's no big deal...

Our download list only available "for the foreseeable future".

The next step is that we lose everything we've purchased...

How long till Dreams goes on Plus?

Our download list will only be available...

"for the foreseeable future".

So the next step is that we lose our purchases completely.

Thanks Sony, you're the bomb!

I wouldn't subscribe to a BC service...

I would buy a PS1-3 emulator, even work-in-progress.

But that's unlikely, because Sony is all about the money now and the PS5 doesn't even have a CD laser.

We just heard that Sony has racked up massive 2020 profits. Now they say they need to close legacy storefronts due to costs? I'm calling BS, Sony's all-consuming greed will be their downfall. Handing Microsoft another win, will seriously damage Sony's brand.

Shouldn't Sony be buying...like actual Developers?

To me, this is like buying a bunch of advertising billboards.

Billboards don't make the products, they just advertising them later.

It's like we're getting a bird-eye view into the final year of development, except the game has already been released.

4K 60 on the Pro sounds good.

I wonder if any design tweaks are in store?

These games were very different on Xbox & 360.

Not better per say, just different and perhaps harder.

Didn't know about this game, I'm interested.

I doubt I'll miss any game developed to be free Day One on GamePass. Thing about the 1st party games that MS dumped on GamePass, none of them were of any consequence to the Industry. Sony and Nintendo 1st party games are made to be AAA because they need to command actual sales, not to be simply given away. I highly doubt that any game developed for release on GamePass will be anything more than a work-in-progress from worn-out franchises that had very limited sales potential anyway. I feel sorry for Bethesda developers who are now realizing that their company will lose 90% of their software sales and will never even cover their development costs due to all their new games being given away for free on PC and Xbox.

Wow, the bosses will be angry now.

Someone's been skimming the skim.

Try telling a guy who's job it is to steal, that he can't steal...

I'd love to see a tear-down...

Does it really have PS5 hardware or is it just a similar spec PC box?

Sounds interesting, I'll take a look on PS4.

Hopefully, it's pretty cheap (or cheaper) on PS4.

These things have a way of backfiring on Microsoft...

By the time Xbox gets a real exclusive, PS5 will be too far ahead.

Bethesda will have to give away all their games on GamePass for zero profit.

Then they'll be forced to sell on other platforms just to recoup development cost.

In the end, Elder Scrolls will be free on GamePass and $70 on Sony. Small win only.

My moneys on Chrono Trigger. Xenogears was never really finished.

But Xenogears would be a great 2nd project, they would just have to finish it.