Sony has officially confirmed the closure of its legacy PlayStation 3, PS Vita, and PSP storefronts. As previously reported, PS3 and PSP will be closed on 2nd July, while PS Vita will shut on 27th August. While you will still be able to download all of your previous software and video purchases – including PS Plus titles, as long as you remain a member – you won’t be able to buy any new games from the PS Store on those platforms once they’ve been retired.
As part of an email to customers, the Japanese giant explained that the decision to retire the storefronts has been made in order to focus efforts on the PS5 and PS4. The correspondence thanks players for their support on the platforms, and notes that this transition will allow it to “enhance the customer experience even further”.
“You will no longer be able to purchase PS3, PS Vita, and PSP digital content, including games and video content,” the email reads. “You will also no longer be able to make in-game purchases through games on PS3, PS Vita, and PSP.” However, you will be able to download any software you’ve purchased previously for the foreseeable future.
The email explains: “You will still be able to download your owned PS3, PS Vita, and PSP content, including games and video content. You can download your owned content onto your PS3, PS Vita, or PSP by accessing the Download List on the respective device.”
There is a caveat regarding PS3 and PS Vita cross-buy bundles: “If you have purchased a PS3 and PS Vita cross-buy bundle and have only downloaded either the PS3 or PS Vita version, you will need to download the other version prior to the closure of PS Store on the relevant device.” Our understanding, despite the wording here, is that you’ll need to ensure both versions of the game are in your Download List before the closure, as you won’t have a means to verify your purchases beyond that. On that note, cross-buy content for PS5 and PS4 games, which include PS3, PS Vita, and PSP versions, will continue to work as before.
Any games that you’ve acquired through PS Plus will be retained as part of your library, and will be yours to download at any time as long as you have an active membership. Unused wallet funds will also be retained on your account, but you won’t be able to spend them once the aforementioned dates have elapsed. You will still be able to redeem PS Plus vouchers and game codes in the future (such as pre-order bonuses and DLC packs), but you won't be able to add funds beyond the aforementioned dates.
What do you make of this news? Are you gutted by Sony’s decision to close its legacy storefronts? Has this shaken your faith in PlayStation’s digital offering? Let us know in the comments section below.
Well, guess that website who was "doing it for clicks" was right, down to the dates.
RIP PS1 resell market. Your prices just went from £10 to God knows what.
That's awful legacy treatment. I honestly feel like I'm losing some faith in Sony. To just get rid of important gaming history and ability to make purchases like that. Sony needs to take a page out of Xbox here. XBones backwards compatibility is really becoming important here. So much history just gone. This really makes me sad to see.
Sony needs new leadership. They have some great gaming products, but ever since the CEO of Sony changed there have been a lot more bad and anti-consumer decisions going on.
Start buying Ps3 games now
Well, that kinda sucks. Gg Sony 👍👍👍
End of an Era......................... ......
See that coming
I spent hours doing this to my ps3 few days ago since you guys announced this. The PS3 is slow and took forever to download so good luck out there, hope they bring all the backwards compatibility to PS5. Cmon SONY!!!
Let’s be honest nobody was using these old storefront for real.
It's sad, kinda, but at the end of the day they're spending more than they're making supporting the old consoles, then it makes sense to call it a day and shut them down. Also, I have had many years to buy any of the games I would like to, so if i miss out on Driver San Francisco or whatever, then I didn't really want it enough.
So, we can still download older games and PS Plus games.
Moreover, if we buy after the closure, a cross-buy game we can still download all versions.
As a first glance I wonder if PS3/PS Vita cloud saves via PS Plus will still work.
@4kgk2 I think for a lot of people, all those PS1 games, and many more PS2 games than on PS4, are now physical only again, with prices on some of them already being astronomical or downright never got released in some regions outside of the digital store.
And in recent years we've seen the downside of CD technology in that after so long the discs themselves begin to rot.
Sucks but being able to redownload purchased titles is a good move at least.
Honestly, this could have been a lot worse.
It's not a great move from Sony, and I'm not supporting it, but this is no worse than Nintendo did on the Wii and for that I guess we should be "relatively" relieved.
That'll be a yikes from me
Better check what games I have that have DLC that I want. Think I have all the games on them that I wanted.
... PS3 has been discontinued as a console for about 5+ years now.. I know Xbots are revelling in backwards compatibility.. but.. well.. who cares? The 3% who love old games have probably purchased the games physically, the rest of us are looking forward to Returnal and enjoying Sackboy, Miles Morales and Demon's Souls... 👍
@smbeats I rather have remakes of some of these old games than backwards compatibility. I’m sorry i can’t go back to games that run below 720p and 30fps with soupy textures.
Key sentence everyone is missing "you will be still be able to redownload games"
Would love to know what the plan is here.
Is it just a case of not giving all the info so they get more attention, then announce something later when everyone is watching?
Or is it just a total fumble?
Fair shout. Everything will stay available in our libraries.
I'm a bit relieved that I'll still be able to download previous purchases after recent rumours, but it's still disappointing.
I would hope they'd have a massive sale but I very much doubt they could be bothered, there's probably quite a few vita games I'd like
they also only stopped making ps vita 2 years ago, so you buy a brand new console and two and a half years later you can't buy games for it 😂 great stuff
Surely Sony won't leave this huge library tucked away.
PS5 could easily emulate all these platforms, I think it could even manage the Cell bound PS3 too.
They must have something up their sleeves ready to make available (resell, gulp) these old gems rather then let them languish.
Added a lot more content! Will update again to try and clear everything up!
BuT dIGITaL iS ThE FuTUre.!
But don't you need the ps vita store to downlaod the games you've already purchased?
@UltimateOtaku91 It'll still be there, you just won't be able to buy anything. It'll only work as a means to download stuff.
"You Can sTill Downlod Da GaMez"
@4kgk2 that's your problem and opinion , playing some of these games on emulators in 4k is pretty awesome.
Now we're talking. And unlike the oh so credible "insider reports", this one at least makes sure to spell out that the previous purchases remain intact. Although I still wonder how Vita's download list will work past August - will a firmware update bring a separate app for it, or will the PS Store one just log you in as usual but show errors on attempts to access game pages?
The deadline is, indeed, trollishly puny for the libraries of this site, but excluding all the multiplat stuff available or to come (hopefully Koei Tecmo will comment on the odds of Nosurge dilogy's western Switch localisation ASAP), I suppose it could be worse. Sorry, CrisTales & Co - unless a juggernaut of FFXIII collection's caliber draws near and targets June/July on Switch, the bulk of my vacation bonuses' gaming expense tab might just get splurged away on as many top wishlist exclusives as possible (which may still be not many, since I'm not holding my breath for any blowout discounts). And Nintendo was accused of "FOMO exploitation" with a total of four games?😅
@Haruki_NLI as long as these sites run around with unsubstantiated claims and refuse to name their sources (if any hypothetical legits among the latter worry about their careers, here's a lifehack - don't deal with tabloids), it will always be attention whoring for clicks and nothing more. Regardless of how many official bits may align with their content afterwards. That's how it works among civilized people, at least.
As for PS1, anything I won't have managed to obtain before the deadline will have to stay under the Jolly Roger on my PSP (some games like Medal of Honor are better suited for Vita controls but aren't available in my region anyway) - at least until it gets ported to another portable with a functional digital shop (need I even hint?) or until a vague utopian future where Sony grows itself a new portable console once again. You decide which is more of a pipe dream.
I am honestly positively surprised by the fact that we will still be able to re-download purchased software after the closure.
I know it's probably not going to happen, but it would be fantastic if they did one last sale. Also kinda garbage of Sony to sell dev kits for Vita to only shutdown the shop for it in a few months.
This is just plain rubbish. So now you can’t buy PS1 games and BC with that console is dead. Fantastic.
@4kgk2 I was using the hell out of the Vita store for PS1 and PSP stuff
During the latter half of the Vita's lifecycle it was basically a backwards compatibility machine to me since PS4's support of PS1/2 stuff wasn't that substantial outside of Now
There go all those cool little digital games from the early days of the PSN. Thankful that our download lists are safe! The lack of respect for sony's own heritage is pretty shocking really, it's outright shameful that people will be forced into piracy just to play ps1 + ps2 games they'd buy legally if they could.
Ludicrous. Utterly freaking ludicrous that they're doing this without at least a year's worth of advance notice. Ludicrous that they're doing this without so much as a modicum of respect for game preservation or legacy, or how terrible an implication it is for the all-digital future that we're hastily steaming towards.
Also, "enhance the customer experience?" Yep, because nothing enhances customer experience than insta-delisting a freaking crapton of games all at once, right?!
In any case, PlayStation continues its downward spiral under the leadership Jim "Why Would Anyone Play This" Ryan.
I like how they say there doing this to focus on PS4 and PS5. That's exactly what they won't do...
@DarthAmmii you couldn't be more wrong.
@Jaz007 Jim Ryan didn't kill Vita and PS3 sales were way before.
Guess I'll buy whatever I need before that date. Because I still play my PS3 regularly. Long as I can access my digital purchases and have the ability to sync my trophies going forward, then I have no problem with this.
@Playstation Xbox is like the only one of the three I can at least say are actually taking BC seriously and are doing a competent job for the most part
The OG Xbox lineup needs some work but 360 and beyond look really good on Series X from the footage I've seen. They even gave light remasters to specific titles like Final Fantasy XIII
I understand the need to close those older stores down eventually, particularly PSP and PS3, but Sony should have given more of a heads up. At least 12 months, at the very least.
I think the Vita closure is premature though, as there are still some games actively being developed and released. I've always loved the Vita. August 27th will be a sad day.
I think the most annoying part about this is that it came along in a year where a lot of people are suffering financially. If it happened next year then I think I could stretch to picking up a bunch of games I'd been holding off on for a while but as it stands, I will either have to impoverish myself or go without.
I'm just glad my ps plus sub runs out about a month before the deadline so I can actually use the lapsed sub time to pick up the few gems the service has introduced to me.
Start the week with bad news end with good news?
@vhsodre What if I say that the moon is made of cheese and Boris Johnson is Daniel Day Lewis method acting?
@OneManDroid why would you want to watch empire strikes back when you could watch the last Jedi
There's an arrogance to Sony after effectively winning the last gen.
I've a suspicion that the move to California hasn't helped either.
With this generation looking much closer they want to be careful.
A poor choice and frankly bad from Sony.
@jcordeiro honestly I don’t understand the need to close any store front. They aren’t saving on hosting as all our games are still available to download.
@ZoSo I wouldn't say they're PS3-era levels of arrogant but they've definitely become a lot cockier and under the mindset they can get away with a lot more stuff
It's not a good look either way. I expect the race between Microsoft and Sony to be a lot closer this gen especially after the Bethesda stuff
Happy I still have access to games I purchased. Not worried about games I have not purchased.
3 months is rather short notice for the PS3/PSP games. Sony should have gave much more warning about that. As for the Vita, it seems too early to be closing down its store.
I shall just go and browse all the pre-closure sales that they are definitely going to have...
If there is a choice between a company looking forwards at VR, or backwards at soon to be obsolete games (and, come on, give it 50 years and they’ll be outdone by more games than can be played in a lifetime), I’m happy at VR.
Still, I don’t understand how much they can be saving by doing this, but I’m glad enough in the direction they are moving (this from someone who has all his consoles since the c64 yet has never felt a desire to plug any back in ever).
@vhsodre I'm going to assume PS3 sales were already way down is what you meant. What does any of that have to do with what I said? I didn't say to keep developing games for these consoles, I said to have legacy support, you know, you can still fully use our consoles even if they don't have a huge success (Vita) or if they're old (PS3), I'm talking about consumer friendly policies that encourage faith and that you can safely buy the product without fear for the future. It's essentially the decision of what to do with these consoles with the conditions you presented, which I'm sure he had a part in.
Definitely a bit of a bummer. I guess I'm going to have to shell out full price for Ar Nosurge on the Vita. Held out a bit too long there. I'm sure it's just a matter of the cost of maintaining the store exceeding the revenue generated.
I see several comments about preserving the PS library. I only have anecdotal evidence, but I get the sneaking suspicion that for most people, backwards compatibility is something they like to have but rarely use. I enjoyed playing a few old PS1 & 2 games on the original PS3, but once my nostalgia itch was scratched it was back to PS3 games. Same thing for the PS1 classics on Vita. In most cases I would play a few hours at most, then the nostalgia would wear off and I'd be back to something more modern.
Counterpoint: I could go for some Jumping Flash 2 right about now. But just a level or two...
And Sony doesn't even bother bringing PSOne Classics to PS4 and PS5 and that is unacceptable!
The minimum sony should've done is put the full ps1 / ps2 classics collection up on ps now already, furthermore allow us to play them if we purchased them in the past! What a pipe dream though
It's a shame, but I doubt that it will affect the general public, even more that the games will still be downloadable. I doubt that most PS4 and PS5 owners have purchased several PS3 games in recent years.
Fx*x/&%$#"!%# Sony. Why can I buy a 20 year old game on Steam, and not here?
@ED_209 I have purchased 6 games this year alone, and more than 30 last year. I love my ps3 and it is perfectly playable today.
Genuinely furious about this. Such little notice and completely abandonment of the vibrant Vita Dev scene. Sony pulling a lot of really disrespectful moves the last few years
Nice, after so many years now I'm finally ready to *FW my Vita and also install & say hello to R**S3 on my PC.
But this is typical Sony, not so surprised. Every time after a win in some area, they become arrogant and f**k many things up.
I don’t really care, but I suspect you’ll only be able to download the games for a little while before they pull the plug on that, too. But then you could get hit by a bus tomorrow so live for the moment and all that.
Not ideal. Silver lining, we can access our previously purchased content. I see no reason why this option should be taken away, and i would have been furious if Sony had removed access
After the rumours broke last week, i did start buying a few more games i wanted on Vita. And it looks like i will have to add a few more to the list before August. But my backlog is already enormous, so as long as i can access my games that is something. And i did fear this was coming, so started to buy a few essential physical games over the last couple of years. Just in case.
But there are some games i will now never own. Things like Root Double, Attack on Titan or the latest Utawareumono title for example. Sony's random decision not to host sales on Vita anymore means i wont be picking them up. Not for the huge prices they continue to retail at.
But this is extremely poor form by Sony. At a time when devs are still developing games for Vita, and have even been able to purchase dev kits over the past few months. Its completelt unreasonable. Why can Sony not be open with their developers. Its exactly this that is driving them into the arms of nintendo and microsoft. These are not big devs. These are small devs for whom buying a dev kit is a big investment, and developing for the system is not an easy decision
Honestly, i swear, i could do a better PR / Comms job for Playstation if given the chance.
I wouldn't be so unhappy if they had some amazing sale to buy any games I don't already own, guess time will tell
@Oscarjpc - Yes, I know that there are still those who buy PS3 games, but realistically speaking, it must be less than 10% of PS4 and PS5 owners. Sony must have these numbers, and are taking those actions based on that.
What pisses me off the most is that Sony has not yet made any effort to bring these games to the PS5.
So if I put in a ps3 disc in my ps3 will I still be able to download patches ect
As usual the Jim Ryan haters are out in force and judging SIE without seeing the bigger picture. For all we know Sony maybe providing an alternative service to preserve these games. Besides at least you can redownload your purchases and if there was any games you wanted to buy then you still have time but let's face it the vast majority have moved on.
@AdamNovice Communications have still taken a nose dive since then in that case. If they have that alternate service, it should accompany this report. Assuming what you say happens, they still did this to themselves and asked for this reaction. In the meantime, I'm not having faith for some bigger plan from a corporation to swoop in and make my life better in a way that was beyond my own previous understanding.
Welp, time to add PlayStation into companies that ignores its legacy, along with Rovio and Nintendo.
I'm personally more bummed that I can't download the Jill Valentine DLC for Ultimate Marvel vs Capcom 3.
But that's not really Sony (or Capcom's) fault, it's down to Disney (that owns the right to the Marvel universe) withdrawing the license from Capcom in 2013 or something.
Disney wanted to develop the games themselves, and it was a disaster. They lost $800 million over 4 years and now the M vs C franchise/collaboration has been revived (but it didn't seem like Capcom wanted to put that much effort into it; M vs C Infinite isn't that good from what I've heard - and wasn't particularly successful either).
But that's what happens if you get to greedy/arrogant, I guess (and I'm talking about Disney here).
@shgamer When they brought UMvC3 back on PS4 they bundled all the DLC stuff together including Jill if you're looking for that still
Disney's definitely taking a more hands off approach with games based on their licenses nowadays
there is a big issue that is not addressed here by sony. what happens to physical ps3 games with regards to updates and patches after the store closes down? will the servers continue to update physical ps3 games or are we faced with playing (in some cases) broken games? in that case, we will need to get all the updates BEFORE the store closes down!
As long as Sony still provides patches/updates I'm pretty much fine (having bought what I want from the PS Vita and PS3 libraries years ago).
If they removed the option to update/redownload the games it would be a real problem. For now people must just buy whatever they have missed from the libraries before it's to late (that there probably won't be anymore sales could a problem for people's wallets - it could turn out to be a bit expensive I'm afraid).
Nintendo gave us 6 months to buy any credit for the Wii, and just over a year before the ability to buy was removed. Many of the Wii shop Games had physical deluxe versions, or got ported to another system, or was shovelware. Most games didn't have DLC, where there PS3/XB360 versions could have, and the ones that did was Guitar Hero tracks. While DSi shop shut, very few of the games disappeared as most of them were already on then current 3DS system.
But really, I'm more of annoyed that I've now got to go and do a dozen things in 4 Months. Ok, Xenogears, Megaman Legends 1+2, Tronne Bonne, stand out to me.. I think they're US exclusives, so I'm going have to download those or work out what things I can do with some questionable content.
@Porco My understanding, unless the game's update is classed As DLC, such as Soul Calibur 4, you can download updates, or be able to use Cross-Save and assuming the servers still up play online!
@Milt true, but at least sony and nintendo have a great legacy that can still be obtained in various ways. microsoft's legacy is quite pathethetic next to sony and nintendo, so what does b/c matter when there is little history worth caring about on xbox? i think microsoft gets way too much credit for its b/c program since the majority of those games can be played on pc anyways.
you know what I think really killed virtual console for sony and nintendo?
Remasters and Remakes.
Think about it, why bother with making contracts with the publishers, upscaling their games to the highest possible resolution and adding trophy support only to throw it onto PSN only and probably have to share profits with sony, when they can easily do a remastered collection of titles and put them on a physical disc, slap a 30-40 dollar price tag on it and throw it onto store shelves and make more of a profit.
to be fair this mostly a presumption on my part, but I honestly don't think it's that out there of a theory.
@TheFrenchiestFry Ok, forgot to say it's the Vita version I was talking about (I'm almost completely a handheld gamer these day - might buy RE Village though for my PS4, if the second demo turns out well, being a huge RE fan).
I think there's also something to be said about younger gamers not wanting to touch a PS1/PS2 era game, no matter how much it's been polished up, which is probably why remakes are becoming a lot more common these days
Not buying (or playing) old PS3/VITA/PSP games in 2021 (I do not even buy the remakes) Do not care.
Give an update on the new God of War and HZD for PS5.
A huge shame that the rumour was true after all, there's plenty of fantastic games on those legacy systems that aren't on PS4 or PS5 at all.
I really hope that Push Square does at least as many articles about this as Nintendo Life did about the Switch delistings (3D All Stars, SMB35, FE1 localization) to reduce the number of people who miss out.
@Nuttertkk that is good to know for sure! that said, there will likely be a timeframe when it comes to accessing our downloads (and updates for physical ps3 games) after the store closes. how much time? who knows. maybe a few years? at some point those servers will close, but hopefully later rather than sooner!
Wow thats crazy hopefully sony put ps3 games on ps4 and ps5.word up son
You know this is an odd thing to ask but if they're shutting down their storefronts, why can't they make it a free download for every game so we can at least keep them? They won't be making money after this.
@Nepp67 that is something that never crossed my mind but it is an interesting idea! they likely wouldn't do that simply because it would eat into the publishers future revenue should they ever decide to re-introduce those legacy games on modern platforms. for example, legend of mana is getting a re-release on ps4 but it is also available on the ps3 store as a ps1 classic... s-e will charge lord knows what for the remaster too... maybe $30ish? (it only costs $6 on ps3). but man, that would be unreal if they made every game FREE on the ps3 store for 24 hours leading up to the shut down! my 500GB hdd is already almost full. i would need to put in a TB to be safe.
Only company that treats their legacy worse is Nintendo.
@Jaz007 I hear this alot but XBOX only has to go back two consoles that are pretty similar where Sony has vastly different systems and OS going back to the late 90s. I think with PS4 and on you won't see this as it just isn't possible to go back, maybe some kind of emulator could be possible, but if sales were already dead why invest to keep it forward? I've emulated most of my old games now as I know these won't carry into high priority for Sony now. Still sucks though to see the past go away.
God this is lame... Gotta double check and make sure I got all those awesome PS1 games, I believe I'm still missing Xenogears at the very least.
I wish Sony at least had the decency to transport that stuff on their new consoles, that'd actually be something that'd make PS5 a bit more worth considering.
@Porco That's a great point! Looking into the future now, if Sony were to keep doing that it would kind of screw with their sales and othersas well.
Just make ps1, ps2, ps3, psp, and psvita games playable on ps4/5 sony
Yeah, get your PS3 games now so you can get the DLC if you want that too. I assume the PS3 games will still get their updates, say if you buy one after the store closes?
not cool SONY!! not cool at all. Should still support it as us older chaps love to do bit of retro gaming.
Sucks but I have most PS3 and Vita games I've wanted to get for over 3 years now and haven't even touched them due to little time.
Really sucks for those who still want to buy though :/
This wouldn't be a problem if all these games were available on the PS4/PS5 like they should be. And people wonder why emulation is so popular...
They must be making so little money from these stores that it make no sense to keep operating them. Bummer but you can always still by retail copies.
Thank god for “However, you will be able to download any software you’ve purchased previously“. I was about to go through both PS3 to save my favorite games purchased.
I really don’t like this. Wouldn’t matter if the content was transitioning to the new system, which would be awesome. But worse of all, the DOWNLOAD LIST IS AWFULL. I own a very large amount of titles. Not being able to filter or search is so painful. Why do I have to see all the stuff I bought for my ps3 in the queue on my vita? Why can’t I at least make it alphabetical. Sony really should fix this. But there is no way they will. I usually just go to the store and download from there. But now it will be gone.
As a great Polish man once said: "Who doesn't respect and value his past, is not worth the honour of the present, and has no right to a future."
I guess my PS3 physical collection will go up in prices now... still sucks for people with less disposable income.
Anyways, I just bought a PS Vita in january fml lol.
I know I'm in the minority but I'm not going to buy a PS5 if they do not bring back backwards compatibility for legacy systems. I'm going full Steam.
I am sorry, but I do not have much if any faith in Jim Ryan. When the guy talks he looks and sounds like a robot. There isn't any passion that I can see. Many left after he became CEO, key figures that turned this ship around. Shuhei was just completely sidelined compared to PS4 era. Ryan has an ability to drive PS back into the ground.
I’m not really surprised or outraged by this. Speaking for myself, I work a lot. I’m a gamer yes, but I can’t play as much as I used to. And I don’t even have kids or a wife. I can only imagine how little time gamers like my best friend have. I don’t have enough time to play new games for my PS5 and Switch as it is.
I’m a little disappointed that they didn’t give everyone a one year heads up. That would have been the right thing to do.
Huh I just bought Asura's wraith on my xbox one, and it's compatible with a series X console. Glad xbox supports legacy products.
@TheRedComet yisus man. I don't want to get married or gets kids because I have other dreams but this surely doesn't motivate me to be open about it.
@4kgk2 no one will admit do it, but will bitch about anything and everything XD
@Porco oh ok
@Jaz007 you can't expect them to leave the stores open forever. i'm sure they looked at the stats and they are probably at a low time low. so if barely any one is buying any games from the ps3 store why keep it open?
@Porco i'm sure the patches/updates will stick around for a while because on the ps3 they weren't that big as compared to how big they are now. most of the games that required an install were only like what 3-5gb's?
Hopefully pushsquars do a must buy article for ps vita and others.
I know Im going to buy persona 3 FES never played persona e and enjoyed 4 and 5.
Does anyone have any recommendations?
Ot happy about the vita stores closure I think se should have had a years notice at least.
@OneManDroid You mean the actual 3% of people reading this site who have actually managed to buy a PS5?
Our download list will only be available...
"for the foreseeable future".
So the next step is that we lose our purchases completely.
Thanks Sony, you're the bomb!
I was looking at the xbox past games they got for xbox now and it's hardly worth boosting about Now if we had all the PS1/2/3 games to play on the PS5 somehow forever then that would be worth boosting about + You can still download your old games to a PS3? So that is ok i think.
Hopefully this means Sony is going to revamp PS Now and make it even more appealing by adding these games that are about to be lost to it
The one thing to get out of the way first is the arguably most important thing here is that, at least so far, they are still retaining the ability to download what you already own. That shakes my confidence that will remain as well, but part of the contract of digital needs to be that it's not any more volatile than physical, otherwise the deal is off. If they retain what you bought long ago "forever", then we're it least not in too much worse shape than physical where games go out of print eventually but you can retain them forever. That's the difference between this being a problem and this being catastrophic.
However, with physical there's still that resale market. There's still that chance to buy a disc at whatever inflated price 25 years later for a PS1 game and play it. With digital policy like this, that doesn't exist.
I know sales are low, I know they have metrics that show it's not the absolute most profitable way to do business to keep a storefront running for old products that aren't popular. But this marks the first cutoff outside Nintendo's cartridge formats where content simply cut cut off from availability entirely. In the physical world, they wouldn't print discs forever, so one can argue this isn't different, and in fact it was available far longer. And as long as you can redownload owned content there's still some benefit to that. On the other hand, the out of print stuff still circulates the market to this day. The digital stuff, is wholly unobtainable the moment they close the doors.
I used to own PS as an all physical console. When I jumped into digital I bought an X1X to be my all-digital console. I was so pleased with the experience I shifted my PS library digital as well. But I'm starting to feel as though digital is only really a sound investment on Xbox and PC. When will Sony also decide you've had enough time to play it and can't download it again, while Xbox promotes BC and PC has always had it baked in? And none of this would even be an issue if Sony would make sure their current hardware could play their old software. They did that up through PS3 launch, but did it by hardware means. PS5 surely has the power to run even Cell emulation. Xbox 1 and 360 owners can still play at least the significant highlights of their library on their newest hardware, and still buy old content on the old hardware (licensing issues aside for select games.) PC owners can as well. Nintendo's gonna' Nintendo. And apparently, Sony's gonna' Nintendo, too.
@NEStalgia I'm not fully on board with digital for the reasons you stated. When Nintendo started to do it's extremely hard push against emulation sites last year, I made backups of literally any piece of media I have. Foolish of me for waiting this long; it took the better part of the year. But, now that the job is done, everything is backed up, and I duplicated the backup on 4 hard drives and I'm minimizing my spending when it comes to digital purchases on Sony's or Nintendo's eShops. I don't mind buying on Steam or GoG, because GoG gives me full control of what I can do with the software, and Steam has some interesting workarounds, if you know where to look.
To anyone reading that's interested, SSDs are cheaper than ever, and have a very long shelf life for the standard user of over 10 years. I recommend that now is the time to seriously look at how you are spending money on digital store fronts that turn to smoke, and make solid backups of anything that you really, really will miss when the stores close.
Also, if you really love these consoles and don't have one for whatever reason, don't wait until the store closures because I'm 99% certain that the prices will skyrocket as an excuse. Early bird gets the worm, or something.
@BloodNinja Yeah, even the backups are sketchy with PS though. With Switch you can copy them to another SD card on PC, but they're locked to the physical hardware, so if that hardware Switch fails, the backup is useless. PS5 should be locked to the user account, so if authentication ever goes down, you still can't access the data. Same for XB technically, but I really really doubt Microsoft Account logins will be going down in my lifetime. If that happens, every corporation will be up the creek without a paddle. Sony and Nintendo are more volatile and a lot more likely to just pull the rug out from under things. March 31st is nearly upon us. THE END IS NIGH!
So far the excuse has been that only Nintendo upends such things and Sony and MS and Steam keep it going forever. But now Sony's changing that. Granted, it's the worst management Playstation's ever had...a bunch of short-term profit-minded western execs and no long term strategists. But Nintendo has the strategists but somehow still screws customers left and right and makes a killing.
I feel (relatively) comfortable in my digital Xbox library. Their obvious bent on keeping it on all consoles and moving it into the cloud long-term makes me feel at least as confident in them as Steam. That's not absolute either, but I think a certain level of long-term confidence goes a long way. I feel uneasy about my PS digital library. That's why I keep the overwhelming majority of my library on XB at this point. When I buy it there I have reasonable assurance it'll be available as long as I want it, and backups are easily copied from the system. When I buy on PSN there's a question mark that's becoming an exclamation point. When I buy on Nintendo eShop I just assume it's an impulse buy like candy at the cash register, disposable as pandemic toilet paper.
I'd tried to stick with physical on Switch, but I have to admit the format of the console itself really does feel more utilitarian with digital. I'm a lot more likely to jump back into old games I never finished if it's just sitting there rather than having to go sort through my cartridge Rolodex for it.
@NEStalgia lmfao cartridge Rolodex is so great!! Let's see how many people actually get the joke.
Hi there fellow gamers.
I´ll just make a copypaste of my comment from a previous post. It´s a bit long, just like always 😉
All this news about old games is making me nostalgic.
I´m remembering when I first got my PSone and some of the very first games I played on it.
Do you guys remember the game based on the animated Hercules? I was blown away at the time, not just because of how cool the viuals and the animation were, but also because you could see clips of the full movie as the games cutcenes.
Who here remembers Porsche Challenge? I loved that game. It was because of this game that I fell in love with the Porsche car brand and have been ever since.
And the first Dead or Alive game that I used to call it the Playstation Vitrtua Fighter. Playing the game over and over again to unlock every single outfit for the characters and to unlock the two characters, the final Boss Raidou and the hidden Ayane by playing until Kasumi in less than seven minutes.
Or the amazing RPG Alundra, wich I called the Zelda Playstation game. One of the best games I´ve played. The gameplay, the exploration, getting new items and be able to get to new places. It was awesome.
And the original Tenchu: Stealth Assassins? The very first 3d ninja game I played and loved every second of it. Getting the perfect stealth score, unseen, unheard, undetected.
It´s why I love Dishonored so much.
I still name some of my characters Ayame and Rikimaru because of that.
I remember very fondly getting my "special" Resident Evil 2 copy on PSone. I say special because I got a version that had the two discs on different sides just like my favourite PSone game of all time:
Metal Gear Solid. Man Oh man, do I love that game. I played to the end so many times, I could not only play it blindfold, but also knew every single line of dialogue. Yeah, I was addicted 😜
A very special game that made me and my friends at the time, not only super fans of the MGS franchise, but also huge fans of what videogames could be like and feel like.
And that´s just a few PSone games that I remembered while thinking about this subject.
A lot a good and fond memories that I have from these old games and that I will always treasure.
Cheers, stay safe good folks and happy gaming to us all
Just got the email from Sony today. Bummer.
Despite the risks with Nintendo I’ve been mostly all digital on Switch. I’ve got two physical games and one more I’m fixing to buy, 3D Allstars (although that’s mainly because it’s a collectible). Otherwise it’s all digital mainly because it just fits the Switch’s design.
Well that and Nintendo’s cart flap is absolutely terrible and I’m scared of it breaking off from opening and closing it too much.
So much for a digital future...
This is why I was OCD about owning games physically for so long, thanks for reminding me.
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