The whole situation around this game is exactly what happens when two companies go out of their way to keep a third party game away from a competing platform, only for each of them to succeed in a way, and the game and devs potentially pay the price for that.
We’ll see I guess, I’ll be playing this one on Game pass in a year.
To the people saying they’d prefer to buy their games instead of renting them…you know that option IS still on Xbox and some devs have even said gamepass increased the sale of their games right? Or does that not gel with the ‘gamepass bad’ narrative?
Looking at this comment section…boy there’s a lot of elitism over AAA games. Maybe these devs should save themselves the trouble and just focus on PC, Switch and Xbox.
As someone without a PS5 yet, very pleased with how Ratchet is doing as well. One of my favorite Sony series and this seems to be the first real big continuation of the series since A Crack In Time.
Will definitely be my top game to get when I eventually get a PS5.
@feral1975 I told you active ways they made it better and they aren't holding anyone back from playing it on different platforms. Only thing that changed really is it's going to gamepass and might look a bit better on an Xbox. There's really no hypothetical that leaves Sony players out and if anything you're the one that looks like you're rushing to villify Microsoft on this. The game was targeting PS4 and Xbox One to begin with.
@feral1975 Did you know without MS backing Double Fine the game would've cut boss battles and wouldn't have had access to consulting actual psychiatrists that know about the various mental disorders that'll be in Psychonauts 2? And that it's still coming to Playstation regardless?
Microsoft literally made the game better and no promised platforms are getting left behind. That isn't anti-consumer.
@Col_McCafferty you do know Psychonauts is a first party MS game and not a third party thing? Of course it’s going to be on Gamepass the ‘publishing deal’ is that it’s owned by MS.
As a consumer with a Series X yeah...gamepass was a large part of the reason I got it simply as someone on a budget right now.
I intend to get a PS5 probably around the time Spider-Man 2 drops and by then i'm hoping some early games like Ratchet and Returnal will be cheaper. I think ultimately PS5 and Sony will thrive with or without a gamepass answer though, so it isn't really that big a thorn I think. The numbers more than show that.
As for the Xbox show, Psychonauts 2 and Outer Worlds 2 existing were my highlights.
But yeah, i'll be playing this on my Series X if it looks good. I need to see this in engine before I commit, Bethesda is coming off of some disappointing RPGs for me into this.
@Justin113 Except that abandoning a user base as soon as the new hardware is out, for not even a year is a ***** and selfish thing to advocate for which is exactly what you’re doing.
I fully plan to get a PS5, as do many people, but the reality is that isn’t easy and Sony isn’t going to just stop supporting the PS4 until a few years after the PS5 is out, and wanting them to do that is unrealistic to how console cycles have basically always gone. You can keep lamenting these games being held back all you want, but I somehow doubt they’ll be affected quality wise by this considering how good their PS4 counterparts were.
Of course Sony is going to keep supporting the PS4. PS5 elitists can choose to get over it or not, but at least I’ll be able to play the new GoW if I don’t have a PS5 by then, they ain’t exactly easy to get.
I'm very happy about this, but yeah, I do agree they need to balance the turn based combat better. But it isn't like the first Yakuza had polished brawler gameplay really and this was their first go at a turn based battle system so i'm confident they can improve on it.
No, if you’re going to remake something don’t waste your time on something that’s already released on your previous two consoles already. The Remaster for PS4 is already more than good enough to play.
Xbox is gaining ground, Sony isn't really losing ground. They both are offering something different upfront anyway. Some find the subscription model and backwards compatability Xbox offers appealing, others are more interested in Sony's strong first party output.
I plan to own a PS5 within a few years and I love my Series X, I really want to play Ratchet and the next proper Spider-Man game, as well as God of War Ragnarok, and know that if I plan to continue playing fighting games, PS5 is where to be.
At the same time, one of my most anticipated games this year with Psychonauts 2 is hitting gamepass day one and gamepass plus quick resume has really made the way I play games really dang convenient. Been flitting between Yakuza games, Octopath Traveller, and Prey and having a good time.
I think both provide something of tremendous value catered to different audiences with some overlap in people interested in both.
@Coltaine22 I have a PS4 and enjoy it thoroughly still, also play my Switch a lot, and I still like a lot of what Sony offers. I use all 3 of the sites that are connected.
I own a Series X but not a PS5. Plan to get a PS5 down the line when games drop in price like Ratchet & Clank and Spider-Man 2 is a real thing, but that's not now. A lot of that is due to where i'm at financially with gamepass vs $70 games, interest wise with most of what I care about right now being multiplat anyway, and where my friends play, I have no dog in the race when it comes to Bethesda basically outside of DOOM and funnily enough...Ghostwire.
Microsoft is going to start being a lot more hardline in trying to compete with Sony, and I doubt Bethesda is the last of Microsoft's moves either so best to just get used to it I guess, I won't hold it against them any more than I hold it against Sony making a deal for something like Final Fantasy, and Sony definitely won't rest on their laurels in acquiring their own big exclusive offerings. Just the nature of the business.
This game has occupied my thoughts while away from it more than I thought I would. Not since middle school have I been this hooked on a Tony Hawk game.
This has fast become one of my favorite Playstation exclusive games, and as a fan of Sucker Punch, I had all the faith in the world and they knocked it out of the park. Definitely gonna be remembered as the big swan song for PS4 I think.
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Re: NEO: The World Ends With You (PS4) - Kingdom Hearts' Little Brother Finally Gets Its Long Awaited Sequel
@kendomustdie I sincerely think people give Persona 5 way too much credit because it popularized urban JRPG settings, not innovated in it.
I can only comment on the demo of NEO but tonally…just felt like The World Ends With You but in 3D instead of 2D to me.
Re: NEO: The World Ends With You (PS4) - Kingdom Hearts' Little Brother Finally Gets Its Long Awaited Sequel
The World Ends With You doesn’t owe Persona 5 anything considering it and it’s urban setting predates Persona 5 by about a decade.
Re: Jim Ryan Says Players Only Remember the Best Games
Nah, I tend to remember weird diamonds in the rough more than most other kinds of games, and i'm worried Sony might be turning their back on those.
Re: Soapbox: Why I'm Less Excited for Deathloop on PS5 Than I Should Be
The whole situation around this game is exactly what happens when two companies go out of their way to keep a third party game away from a competing platform, only for each of them to succeed in a way, and the game and devs potentially pay the price for that.
We’ll see I guess, I’ll be playing this one on Game pass in a year.
Re: Lost Judgment Unveils Its Dramatic Opening Movie
One of my most anticipated games this year. Cannot wait!
Re: In the UK, 96% of Dark Alliance's Physical Sales Were on PS5, PS4
To the people saying they’d prefer to buy their games instead of renting them…you know that option IS still on Xbox and some devs have even said gamepass increased the sale of their games right? Or does that not gel with the ‘gamepass bad’ narrative?
Re: Report: How PlayStation Is Failing Indie Developers
Looking at this comment section…boy there’s a lot of elitism over AAA games. Maybe these devs should save themselves the trouble and just focus on PC, Switch and Xbox.
Re: UK Sales Charts: Ratchet & Clank: Rift Apart Sells Even Better in Its Second Week
As someone without a PS5 yet, very pleased with how Ratchet is doing as well. One of my favorite Sony series and this seems to be the first real big continuation of the series since A Crack In Time.
Will definitely be my top game to get when I eventually get a PS5.
Re: Poll: Did E3 2021 Suck?
Only for Sony fans
Re: Bethesda Apologises to PS5, PS4 Fans 'P*ssed' at Exclusivity
I do not have enough popcorn for this comments section
Re: Psychonauts 2 Will Also Release on PS4 This August
@feral1975 I told you active ways they made it better and they aren't holding anyone back from playing it on different platforms. Only thing that changed really is it's going to gamepass and might look a bit better on an Xbox. There's really no hypothetical that leaves Sony players out and if anything you're the one that looks like you're rushing to villify Microsoft on this. The game was targeting PS4 and Xbox One to begin with.
Re: Psychonauts 2 Will Also Release on PS4 This August
@feral1975 Did you know without MS backing Double Fine the game would've cut boss battles and wouldn't have had access to consulting actual psychiatrists that know about the various mental disorders that'll be in Psychonauts 2? And that it's still coming to Playstation regardless?
Microsoft literally made the game better and no promised platforms are getting left behind. That isn't anti-consumer.
Re: Psychonauts 2 Will Also Release on PS4 This August
@Col_McCafferty you do know Psychonauts is a first party MS game and not a third party thing? Of course it’s going to be on Gamepass the ‘publishing deal’ is that it’s owned by MS.
Re: Super Monkey Ball: Banana Mania Rolls to PS5, PS4 on 3rd October
@sketchturner Deluxe added some new levels and mini games iirc
Re: CyberConnect2 RPG Fuga: Melodies of Steel Brings Friendship, Death, and Massive Tanks to PS5, PS4 Next Month
@ShogunRok Oh cool. Those games are surprisingly really great. Will definitely check this out.
Re: CyberConnect2 RPG Fuga: Melodies of Steel Brings Friendship, Death, and Massive Tanks to PS5, PS4 Next Month
Is this connected to Solatorobo and Tail Concerto?
Re: Reaction: Xbox Game Pass Is the Thorn in PS5's Side
As a consumer with a Series X yeah...gamepass was a large part of the reason I got it simply as someone on a budget right now.
I intend to get a PS5 probably around the time Spider-Man 2 drops and by then i'm hoping some early games like Ratchet and Returnal will be cheaper. I think ultimately PS5 and Sony will thrive with or without a gamepass answer though, so it isn't really that big a thorn I think. The numbers more than show that.
As for the Xbox show, Psychonauts 2 and Outer Worlds 2 existing were my highlights.
Re: Bethesda's Starfield Will Not Release on PS5, PS4
Surprised it isn't even on Xbox One to be honest.
But yeah, i'll be playing this on my Series X if it looks good. I need to see this in engine before I commit, Bethesda is coming off of some disappointing RPGs for me into this.
Re: Xbox Head Targets Sony for Not Launching Games Day and Date on PC
Boy, the amount of fanboyism in this comment section...
Re: Ninja Gaiden: Master Collection (PS4) - Cut-Throat Action, Old-School Design
It’s a damn shame that the definitive version of the first with Black just isn’t possible to port forward.
Re: God of War Ragnarok, Gran Turismo 7 PS4 Versions Confirmed
@Justin113 Except that abandoning a user base as soon as the new hardware is out, for not even a year is a ***** and selfish thing to advocate for which is exactly what you’re doing.
I fully plan to get a PS5, as do many people, but the reality is that isn’t easy and Sony isn’t going to just stop supporting the PS4 until a few years after the PS5 is out, and wanting them to do that is unrealistic to how console cycles have basically always gone. You can keep lamenting these games being held back all you want, but I somehow doubt they’ll be affected quality wise by this considering how good their PS4 counterparts were.
Re: God of War Ragnarok, Gran Turismo 7 PS4 Versions Confirmed
@Justin113 'holding back gaming' so dramatic as if games are inherently inferior on older hardware, and not even that much older mind you.
Yeah, that PS5 elitist comment is on point.
Re: God of War Ragnarok, Gran Turismo 7 PS4 Versions Confirmed
Of course Sony is going to keep supporting the PS4. PS5 elitists can choose to get over it or not, but at least I’ll be able to play the new GoW if I don’t have a PS5 by then, they ain’t exactly easy to get.
Re: Sony's Targeting More Than 50 Per Cent Market Share with PS5
PS5 is obviously a huge success and I could definitely seeing it have the most market share of the 3.
But not 50%. Switch and Series X/S are NOT the failures their previous iterations were.
Re: Psychonauts 2 Gameplay Looks So Vibrant and Experimental
One of my most hyped games this year. Love the original game.
Re: Future Yakuza Games Will Have Turn-Based Combat, Not Action
I'm very happy about this, but yeah, I do agree they need to balance the turn based combat better. But it isn't like the first Yakuza had polished brawler gameplay really and this was their first go at a turn based battle system so i'm confident they can improve on it.
Re: Lost Judgment Leaks on Japanese PlayStation Store Ahead of Official Reveal
Finished the first game yesterday. Absolutely down for more, day 1 buy for me.
Re: Plans in Place for Ratchet & Clank: Rift Apart News
There’s some good news. If any game can get me excited to get a PS5 right now it’s this one
Re: Soapbox: I Don't Think Sony's Obsession with PS5 Blockbusters Aligns with Reality
@twitchtvpat what’s not true? That Japan Studio is basically gone which was a major studio I cared about? Because that is true.
Indie scene...Xbox and Nintendo have me covered there with gamepass and portability respectively
Re: Soapbox: I Don't Think Sony's Obsession with PS5 Blockbusters Aligns with Reality
@LiterallyDoNotCare Spider-Man and Ratchet mean a lot to me.
Re: Soapbox: I Don't Think Sony's Obsession with PS5 Blockbusters Aligns with Reality
No more titles like Puppeteer or Gravity Rush is a blow to my faith in Playstation, and I really don’t give a fig about The Last of Us.
Sony has Insomniac and that’ll mean I get a PS5 eventually, but I’m still wary of their recent moves.
Re: Some PS3 Games Supposedly No Longer Downloading Patches
Sony needs to address this at least. These mistakes and flubs are adding up.
As someone that still plays old games, and has his PS2 and PS3 still hooked up I’m disheartened by what’s going on.
Re: Talking Point: Would You Buy a PS5 Remake of The Last of Us?
No, if you’re going to remake something don’t waste your time on something that’s already released on your previous two consoles already. The Remaster for PS4 is already more than good enough to play.
Re: Poll: Is PlayStation Losing Ground to Xbox?
Xbox is gaining ground, Sony isn't really losing ground. They both are offering something different upfront anyway. Some find the subscription model and backwards compatability Xbox offers appealing, others are more interested in Sony's strong first party output.
I plan to own a PS5 within a few years and I love my Series X, I really want to play Ratchet and the next proper Spider-Man game, as well as God of War Ragnarok, and know that if I plan to continue playing fighting games, PS5 is where to be.
At the same time, one of my most anticipated games this year with Psychonauts 2 is hitting gamepass day one and gamepass plus quick resume has really made the way I play games really dang convenient. Been flitting between Yakuza games, Octopath Traveller, and Prey and having a good time.
I think both provide something of tremendous value catered to different audiences with some overlap in people interested in both.
Re: 13 Sentinels: Aegis Rim Sales Surpass 400,000, Still Deserves More
One of the best games I played last year, more people need to play it.
Re: Future Bethesda Games Will Ship 'Where Game Pass Exists'
@Coltaine22 I have a PS4 and enjoy it thoroughly still, also play my Switch a lot, and I still like a lot of what Sony offers. I use all 3 of the sites that are connected.
Just giving my 2 cents.
Re: Future Bethesda Games Will Ship 'Where Game Pass Exists'
Companies aren't your friend, etc, etc.
I own a Series X but not a PS5. Plan to get a PS5 down the line when games drop in price like Ratchet & Clank and Spider-Man 2 is a real thing, but that's not now. A lot of that is due to where i'm at financially with gamepass vs $70 games, interest wise with most of what I care about right now being multiplat anyway, and where my friends play, I have no dog in the race when it comes to Bethesda basically outside of DOOM and funnily enough...Ghostwire.
Microsoft is going to start being a lot more hardline in trying to compete with Sony, and I doubt Bethesda is the last of Microsoft's moves either so best to just get used to it I guess, I won't hold it against them any more than I hold it against Sony making a deal for something like Final Fantasy, and Sony definitely won't rest on their laurels in acquiring their own big exclusive offerings. Just the nature of the business.
Re: Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 1 + 2 - The Birdman Is Back with Fantastic Remake
This game has occupied my thoughts while away from it more than I thought I would. Not since middle school have I been this hooked on a Tony Hawk game.
Re: Ghost of Tsushima Is Sony's Fourth Best Launch in US History
This has fast become one of my favorite Playstation exclusive games, and as a fan of Sucker Punch, I had all the faith in the world and they knocked it out of the park. Definitely gonna be remembered as the big swan song for PS4 I think.
Re: State of Play Confirmed for This Week, Will Focus on PS4 and PSVR Games Along with Some PS5 Game Updates
Crash 4 info? I’m in.
Re: Ubisoft's Next Digital Showcase Dated for September
Yeah, definitely have no desire for anymore Ubisoft games...ever.
Re: How Well Do You Know inFAMOUS?
12/15
Been a while. Infamous 2 is a personal favorite of mine though.
Re: Marvel's Avengers Story Trailer Reveals We'll Be Facing Off Against MODOK
MODOK being the villain instantly shot my interest up in this game, though I’m still on the fence
Re: Crash Bandicoot 4 Pre-Orders Are Available Now at Retail and on PlayStation Store
Going digital. Been embracing it more and more over the years and world events have only made me double down on that.
Gonna definitely pre-order when I have the funds.
Re: Crash Bandicoot 4: It's About Time Officially Revealed, Coming to PS4 in 2020
Day one buy. Looks like what I wanted.
Re: How Ratchet & Clank: Rift Apart Is Taking Advantage of PS5
I’ll need to turn off the rumble due to tendinitis in my right arm, but really excited for the 3D audio
Re: Crash Bandicoot 4: It's About Time Screenshots Leak, Comes 9th October
On another note, those Totally Tubular outfits are neat. I’d definitely use both of them. Kinda sucks that we’re still doing pre-order skins though.
Re: Crash Bandicoot 4: It's About Time Screenshots Leak, Comes 9th October
I’ll need to see the gameplay in motion I think.
Re: Age Rating and Box Art Leak Crash Bandicoot 4: It's About Time
Another time travel one?
That said I’m pumped!
Re: Ratchet & Clank PS5 Surpasses 2016 Movie, Runs in Native 4K with Ray Tracing
Nice! Though I still wish they'd prioritize 60fps, but I can't deny that Rift Apart seems to be a looker.