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Has a Fenyx vibe to it?

Sony translation: "Security loophole closed". Probably introduced in the last firmware patch.

Been waiting for a physical release, although I was mostly waiting for performance improvements.

£15 less than the digital version - bit of a no-brainer for those of us with a disc drive.

Might have sold a few more copies if it had a physical option.

@SMJ @nomither6 Yes, you can back up PS4 game saves onto a USB stick or whatever on the PS4. I have a mini USB stick in one of the Pro's front ports for that very reason.

But here's the real kicker; you can back up your PS4 game saves onto a USB stick on the PS5 but the option simply isn't there for the PS5 game saves.
Surely a free 10GB wouldn't kill Sony would it? Unfortunately, with $ony these days, it's all about the $$$$s

@get2sammyb I think we're looking at PS6 for enough grunt to emulate the wacky Cell - though some of the PC emulators are getting close but with much more horsepower and we'd need a UNIX port.

@tofuman86 Did the original PS4 have rear USBs? The Pro definitely has one rear USB as that's where my extended storage hard drive is plugged in but I don't remember the original having any?

The PS3 is still the only PS console to play CDs, DVDs and Blu-ray and yes, that was the console that got stripped of the good stuff the most. From my original fatty 60GB to the Slim I have now did seem like a bit of a downgrade. Still, could be worse, I could have kept the Super Slim (shudders!)

Seem to remember having loads of fun with VRally on the PS1 (and Rally Championship on the PS2) in couch co-op mode. Any news on this offering split screen?

Well, I shall be booting up my old Pro tonight and installing the latest update. Hope it doesn't affect the stability though!

"The PS4 was jailbroken quite some time ago" - but it still took a lot longer time to break it than it did for the PS5 though...

ShopTo offers better PS Store Credit amounts than the ones listed above.

My PS4 can't even see Diablo 4 - I can only see King Of Fighters. Took some effort to download it onto the PS5 so maybe I need to repeat those steps for the PS4 (to be lazy as I already had it installed from the disc)

Bet if Sony allowed PS5 saves to be backed up onto USB, like you can for PS4 saves on the PS4 & PS5, those numbers would drop.

Had PS+ for many, many years now (started in the PS3 days) but the service seems to have got worse and the prices keep going up.

Sony, bring back those LBP, ModNation and Everybody's Golf servers, dammit.

Diablo 4 was (is) very good - creepy and action filled. The main campaign is very good, the expansion was a bit disappointing. Hoping for good things whenever the next chapter emerges.

@Vivisapprentice Ha, ha! Must be a PS6 release? Or does that make the PS4 (still) current gen? I'm confused...

PS5 Pro is always going to be held back by the base PS5 - same as was the case with the PS4 & Pro.

I think a 2027 release for the 6 would be most likely as that keeps it in the usual PS upgrade window and the PS5 will continue getting releases for another few years after that. That said, at the current rate, the PS4 will still be getting new versions of FIFA, Fortnite, etc.

Apart from a sheer horsepower update,. I really am struggling to see what the new one is going to offer? I mean 8K TVs are hardly a standard these days (or ever likely to be one given the lack of 8K media) so what's going to be the point of upgrading, especially if Sony's release schedule doesn't improve?

Same bull as the £30 price hike that hit everywhere apart from their home country of the US of A not long after the PS5 was out and available for non-scalpers. Still not seen that come off despite the exchange rates levelling out.

Why are we still waiting for a port of Sensi on the PS platform? I know there's Sociable Soccer from Jon Hare but just a straight port of SWOS would be the best footie game on PS.

Give us the Amiga versions, Team 17! On the subject of those, I wonder how Andy Davidson's Director's Cut + edition is coming along?

I just wish with these ones that they'd add customisable controls. The defaults are just at total odds with Worms2: Armageddon on the PS3.

Don't want anything else apart from money off PS+ subs.

Good job I've still got a fully working PS3. Shame all the online stuff has died.

The label 'AI' gets slapped on everything these days (including washing machines - I mean, wtf?)
What is actually happening is a program is running well established mathematical procedures that have been hanging around for decade or two so it's not AI at all.

"PlayStation Thinks Its PS Plus Games Are 'Improving' Every Year"

I laughed so much, I fell of my chair!

Lets hope they give some money off PS+ subs for those of us loyal customer types so we can stack them without having to "upgrade".

@Sergo Yeah, no DLC will be included. That said, the main game will keep you going for ages . After that, keep an eye out on the Store for the DLC on sale.
Might very well give Jusant a go.

@SuntannedDuck2 "But to me PS5/Series X are the most dull consoles ever,"

Well said, can't agree more.

I think Evil Mouse Corporation might be knocking on their door due to the 'laser sword' in that screenshot.

@AhmadSumadi Same with me - had high hopes as looked amazing but the game played like an absolute car crash.

Anyone know if it's a free upgrade for those who paid for/suffered the PS4 iteration? Not hoping for much as I don't think it was the PS4 Pro holding it back...

PSVR2 - alongside this the PS Vita looked like a storming success.
I know that the controls were different but the lack of backwards compatibility seemed like a major misstep - especially given something so niche.

@Grumblevolcano Of courses PS6 won't support either of the previous iterations but Sony will probably announce PSVR3 for the PS6 which is also not compatible with the previous ones.

@twitchtvpat @get2sammyb @themightyant I know hardware only accounts for a small percentage but the PS4 and PS5 are at odds with the old consoles because Sony effectively lost revenue with each one they sold (certainly in the case of the PS3 fatties) No effort remasters and MTXs must be propping up PS.

Still prefer the last generation (and the one before) to this one. Lets face it, the PS5 is STILL standing on the shoulders of the PS4. At this rate, the PS6 will be doing too.

Don't get me wrong - I like it when Sony do things right (just bought an Xperia 10 VI to replace an XA2 and we still have our Bravia TV, PS3 Slim and PS4 Pro) but they seem to just be concentrating on profit when they have little to offer. Kind of wish MS were still relevant...

By far the most expensive PS ever makes more money than all the others? Not really a surprise is it?
Most of the early PSs made a small loss and recouped the cost from the software licences. The PS3 fatty made a large loss per console due to the tech in it, but the PS4 levelled out the loss but cost a lot less than the PS5.
Maybe all those pointless PS4 remakes are adding into the PS coffers too?

Everybody's Golf: Hot Shots is actually the game I'm looking forward to most.
Forgot about Crimson Desert - hope it's actually fun to play rather than Black Desert which looked amazing but was a totally confusing bore fest. I had no idea what was going on in that game...

For those who are old enough, like me, it almost seems that MS will be doing an MSX - i.e. the next Xbox will not be a box but a spec of PC. In order to run their games, your PC must meet certain criteria.
IF they manage to keep the UI (in console 'mode') to be bare minimum like a console dashboard, then that could be a turning point for them.

As for the PS6, well who knows? It'll be another Unix-based OS custom box, hopefully designed by someone with working eyes this time unlike the PS5's gargantuan size, weight and weirdness. What they really need to do though is to go back to the end of PS3/start of PS4 era and work out what made them great and stand out in that era. Sure they're selling a decent number of PS5s but the software output for the tub o' lard has been below par.

@REALAIS @Rob_230 Yes, the PS5 seems to have a curious issue where it tries to suck in as much fluff as possible and leave it on the fan and all the innards. It's way worse than the PS4 but at least you can pop a side off and get the hoover in there a bit easier.

"Of course, it’s expected that Sony is about to get absolutely trounced in its home region."

What, the USA? PS is about as Japanese as "mom's apple pie" these days

Glad I dropped to Essential...

Given that the DS4 could be plugged in and update it's pairing in no time at all, the DS5 is just a weird pain to unregister and re-register every time you want use your controller on a different system.

Was hoping for Avowed PS5 edition - oh well.

We've been waiting so long for another decent Sonic racer and it looks like they might have finally delivered.
The ones still stuck on the PS3 (why?) are still better than the Italian plumber (there, I said it) so let's hope this new Sonic entry doesn't disappoint.

Looks very good but, as with all racing games, it all depends on the car handling.

Great to see Everybody's Golf back - but I find myself being pulled to buy the Switch version? Might just double dip...

Got Essential too - think I'm more likely to buy them for £4.39 each, rather than wasting money on the overpriced Premium.

Saved me having to buy it day one so I'm happy waiting - probably if it appears in a sale? Loved the PS3 original.

@WolfyTn I was looking out for that too.

Rest of it is a bit 'meh'.

@rjejr It was decent enough but way too much 'pay to play'.

@nhSnork ModNation Racers was brilliant - shame it's all shut down now. Another Sony travesty, considering San Diego Studios (I think) did ModNation: World Tour for the Vita.

We're all waiting for Sonic Crossworlds anyway (PLEASE be up to the standards of the All-Star Racing titles!)

The PS5 will never be as stable as the PS4 - mainly due to that wonky design.

Be interesting to see if a equivalent PS4 patch turns up later...?

PS Plus deals only for new/lapsed customers AGAIN.

FFS, Sony. Then again, this is what happens when Sony has no competition; Xbox is coughing up blood in the corner and Nintendo seem to have delusions of grandeur after their success with their PS2, the Switch.

It's expensive for its age - disc drive PS4 Pro was £300 more often than not by this time in it's generation and I had more fun with that console than I've had with the disappointing PS5.

Of course the PS5 would be cheaper if Yankee-Doodle Sony hadn't upped the price of the PS5 by £30 everywhere apart from their home country of the USA a few years ago....

Been a PS+ subscriber since the PS3/Vita days but let it lapse last year. Needed to back up some PS5 game saves and as Fony don't give the option to back up PS5 saves onto USB unlike the PS4, I had to renew - used some better value PS gift cards from ShopTo though.

PS5 - for the payers...