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Veilguard has been one of the more enjoyable & polished experiences on the PS5 (says more about the PS5's release line-up from my perspective) but it pales in comparison to Dragon Age: Origins on the good old PS3 or Inquisition on the PS4. Just doesn't feel as epic.

Dropped off from Extra at the end of last year and was going to renew at Essential level but, in the end, I couldn't be bothered and can't say I'm missing it.

My PS4 Pro has a tiny USB stick in one of it's front ports for backup purposes. Can't do that with the Tub o' Lard due to Fony not introducing the ability to backup saves to USB.
Was interested to see this until I realised that Essential wasn't included...

"Suggest more than folders and themes in the comments below." - brilliant, @LiamCroft!

Probably removing themes. I keep hoping for folders and themes but Fony are really disappointing me this gen. Sigh, I'll just go and boot my PS4 Pro and enjoy the PS2 retro theme...

To be honest, I've been finding myself disconnected with Sony since the PS5 era lurched into existence and their latest AAA output, games such as Horizon, just left me cold.

I think that someone with a soul should be put in charge of PS Studios (bin Herman) and reach out to all those PS4 indies and AA studios to bolster the PS library with games people want to play and part with money for.
They keep remastering/rehashing games (PS4 games? I mean, why?) but the PS3 ones we want are still stuck on the trusty, old PS3 - Motorstorm, LBP, Modnation Racers to mention just three.

Do you have to waggle your stick (ooh, matron)?

I'm just hoping they've added a 'step backwards' button to the modern controls. How can that still be missing?

Always preferred the original fantasy RPG setting of Warhammer, probably because I played the paper & dice version for many years.
Apart from Vermintide (1 & 2) and Chaosbane (rough but quite playable), I can't think of any others apart from the Warhammer MMO on PC? Shame if this has bit the dust as the PS ecosystem could do with some decent fantasy RPGs with a solid back setting.

@Oram77 The even numbered PlayStation models seem to be the best so I'm hoping for a decent PS6 - though if Herman is still in charge, we'll just end up with Horizon remasters.

What Sony have to realise is, no-one in their right mind pays £500-800 for a home console just to play live service games. Smartphone? Fine. Switch? OK (though hopefully less on S2) PS4? Just about acceptable PS5/6? No.

We need someone to go through the dusty PS2/PS3 archives and work out what to bring back. Motorstorm, ModNation, LBP are just 3 titles that come to mind - though Sony would need to work out how servers work again so content can be swapped. Oh, and rehire the companies they disbanded (Studio Liverpool, Evolution)

Have to say, I agree with everything Shuhei says. Vita failed because:
1) The proprietary memory cards were too expensive and not big enough, storage wise
2) The back touch panel was a stupid gimmick
3) The pulling of first party support sealed its fate

@KawakiisaFraud Sony's own sales forecasts which had to be adjusted down.

@KawakiisaFraud @Pat_trick A lot of it depends on the price and what exclusives are going to be Switch 2 only. I suspect Mario Kart 9 will be Switch 2 only and will be a system seller.

Given that the PS5 is expected to fall short of the PS4 numbers, I can see Switch 2 selling better overall but again it's down to exclusive games, something that the PS5 is only just starting to be supported by, and the price of the system.

No need for the Switch 2 to try and compete with the PS5.

Given what devs are still pushing out of the PS4, that level of power in a handheld will likely be a resounding success. Looking forward to see what it can do.

@AgentGuapo VAT over here is 20%.

There are some weird conversions going on, probably 'cos PlayStation is about as Japanese as Mom's Apple Pie now. Remember that the US was the only place to not get a £30 increase bunged on the cost of a PS5. Still not seen that equalise yet...

@enrickUranium Is it just me or is it the same things in the sale as last time where everything is slightly more expensive?

Last element of fun leaves Playstation. Thanks for all the good times, Shuhei .

Simpsons: Hit and Run would sell like hot cakes. I assume it's licensing getting in the way?

Still got the PS3 disc (and a working PS3 - otherwise it'd be a coaster).

Oblivion was so much more fun to play that Skyrim. Creeping around in those Ayleid ruins and taking out a bandit with a bow was just great.

Turned it off as soon as I got the Tub o' Lard. Microscopic hard drive space being eaten up by pointless clips....

All physical for me - including a recent 2nd hand purchase of Driveclub which still works and patches are still downloadable. Can't even buy that on the PS Store.

Only thing I have purchased digitally was Baldur's Gate 3 which isn't available on physical for a sensible price. If there was a sensible physical 'Standard' edition containing discs in a blu-ray case, I'd have gone for that.

Still hoping against hope that San Diego studio relaunch ModNation Racers.
However that would require Fony to switch on a server for the online content sharing and we know their attitude about that when looking at LBP...

Power it down every time.
It's in a 4-way extension socket, along with the TV and the PS4 Pro, and that extension has a power on off switch that gets turned off every night.

Still got my PS3 Slim and 3 fully working DualShock 3s and a stack of discs.
x86 "push pop" architecture vs Cell distributed processing requires a lot of horsepower.

Dragon Age: The Veilguard for me.

Slick and polished - more than can be said for Dragon's Dogma 2...

Can't wait for the new Nintendo console as then, finally, MK8 and Minecraft might eventually bog off! I mean, who is still buying these in large enough numbers to make it into the top 10??

My PS+ Extra expired in early December. I was going to downgrade to Essential, given how poor the Extra service had become given the price, but I eventually let it lapse as I have a USB stick to save my PS4 saves to..
Don't have enough free time to try out all the games, never mind Premium, so I really can't justify spending £100 or more on simply backing up PS5 game saves (of which there are very few) and playing online when ESO is waiting for the next expansion.

@Max_the_German "I don’t want Arrogant Sony to return". I'm afraid they're already here.

That said, M$ seem to have lost all direction in terms of what an Xbox is and all Joe Public is seeing is Xbox floundering and PS5 becoming the dominant console (if the PS4 vs XBone sales figures weren't enough)
Just hope Nintendo come out kicking bottom...

Oblivion is much more fun than Skyrim. Creeping around in those old Ayleid ruins and taking someone out with an arrow was a fantastic experience.

@__jamiie Nostalgia, I suspect!

Dunno really - might just be because Sony were more fun back in those days, rather than the Apple wannabes they've turned into.

@nhSnork "Lite's sales count towards Switch's just like PSTV's did towards Vita's"
Yes, they count towards the total Switch sales, but it can easily be argued they they aren't home consoles - that was my point about the PS2 being the best selling HOME console.

Well, the Switch has got to sell about another 10-11 million units to unseat the PS2. It could do it , but let's face it, we don't want it to. The PS2 is a legend.
Even if it does clear that 160.n million, the PS2 will still remain the best selling HOME console of all time as the Switch Lites won't count towards that.
Dunno why but I kind of hope that the PS5 lifetime sales fall short of the PS4s - perhaps it's a hope that Sony will realise that cheaper consoles sell better and will price the 6 accordingly?

XBox seems dead in the water and that does NOT bode well for Sony's arrogance.
Can only hope that Nintendo come out with something that gives the PS5 a bloody nose but I doubt it.

Definitely looking forward to Atomfall - a UK based Fallout? Yes please.

Keeping an eye on Crimson Desert given that Black Desert looked amazing but played so poorly.

@themightyant I just used it for online play, such as ESO. Obviously lost access to that at the moment and the 'free' games have been somewhat disappointing.
Only other useful feature is PS5 game save backups, on account of Sony being too tight to allow USB backups (but do still allow PS4 backups??)

Might re-sub to Essential if there's a new year discount but not holding my breath. Was on Extra (after a weird £5 upgrade fee for almost 18 months of my remaining sub) but barely playing anything on that as I've been hanging around on PS + for almost as long as it's been around and buying games I'm interested in.

My PS+ expired on the 4th December after umpteen years since the PS3 days and I can't say I'm missing it so far. These titles aren't going to make me rush back.

Tend to be 80% physical 20% digital (although that includes some games that aren't on physical).

It's all well and good until something gets de-listed. Recently mentioned case in point (due to its 10 year anniversary) is Driveclub. Digital? Nothing.. However, get a 2nd hand disc, shove it in the PS4/5 and watch as the patches download...

Lightweight, fun games - exactly what the PS5 has been missing since it launched.

Scalpers.....ready!

The Sonic & Sega All Stars games are brilliant - even after all this time and being stuck on the PS3/Vita generation.
Here's hoping we get a new version of a firm fan favourite.

Surprised Etsy haven't updated the Framed Playstation 4 Controller Disassembled to be the Driftsense 5 - there must be enough broken ones out there now....

Wow - almost makes me miss the constant remasters...

@Nekomichu @Member_the_game Mine lapsed on the 4th December. I used to buy 'em and stack 'em every Black Friday (using ShopTo's discounted vouchers) but obviously New Sony don't want you to do that so they can fleece you of even more money.
I have enough credit in my wallet (using ShopTo's discounted vouchers again) to buy Essential should I need to but at the moment, I don't need it and begrudge paying £60 just to play online (anyone remember the free PS3 or even the £40 PS4 days?)

Just dropped PS+.
Might get reinstated if a) Sony offer loyal customers since the PS3 PS+ days to a discount, or b) I get a hankering to play some Elder Scrolls Online.

Will Diablo 4 have displaced ESO as my usual time-killer?

Miss the days when we used to get a free theme with the wrap up.

I'm just hoping it plays better than Black Desert which looked beautiful, but turned out, gameplay-wise, to be a pile of poo.

@Vorflynn He's probably talking about the coil whine.

@TheArt @AverageGamer Thank you folks! I didn't think Layden mentioned anything about Cloud gaming - it's all about the same-chips hardware.

I agree that PS1 to PS3 was a sizeable leap each time. I would argue that, despite the antiquated x86/x64 architecture, the PS4 was a noticeable upgrade over the PS3. The PS5 is definitely not a generational leap - maybe the Pro is? Sticking a 6GB/s SSD in a PS4 Pro, you'd be amazed at what a difference it makes so the load speed can be mitigated.
The fact is that the PS5 has double the memory that the PS4 has and more powerful CPU/GPU but that just seems to be a reason for devs to release unoptimised code and hope that the console can brute force its way through, whereas on older gens, every byte and clock cycle was critical.

Perhaps in a year or two, you'll have a choice of PS7 and the latest XBox which will just be a Windows 12 PC with a easy to use front end sitting under your TV?

@get2sammyb Thing is, Sammy, as I and others have said, the PS3 XMB had game artwork AND themes.
Hover over a game and if it had artwork (or a mini-video) it'd show up. If a game didn't have one, the theme would remain visible.
And let's face it, the XMB is a much better interface that the default PS5 one - the only reason the PS5 one looks like it is is to promote sales on the PS Store but it is a big mess.

1) Wipeout 2097 and THAT soundtrack.
2) Tomb Raider - the original and best.
3) Playing Doom on a sofa

Knock £5 off those DS5 prices above if you shop at Currys.

@AverageGamer True, but I always have some respect for Burton for peeing all over Sony's bull line of R&C Rift Apart being 'only possible due to the PS5 SSD'.

Enjoy it while it lasts - probably stick them behind a PS+ Premium paywall as their next move.
After these go, guess I'll have to keep booting up my PS4 Pro with its Anniversary (PS1 startup) and Legacy theme (PS2 startup and visuals).

Why is it only for a limited time? They've at least put (not nearly enough) effort into improving the horrid PS5 UI to support all this only for it to disappear??
What's next - are they going to be available but only for PS+ Premium subscribers?
Really don't understand this generation of Playstation - seems so far removed from the PS4 days.

Nice to see Nate, Sackboy and Wipeout shown - never to return again? Far more iconic than the recent meh titles.