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@riceNpea We're clearly missing Stephen Fry narrating LBP to educate the masses.

@riceNpea Flippin' colonials, eh! 😂

Still, I reserve my main hatred for those, and they appear to be mostly Brits, who mispronounce "aitch" (H) as "haitch". First up against the wall when the revolution comes...

Crikey, PS needs him back more than ever.

Bet LBP wouldn't have been shuttered under his watch.

@Flaming_Kaiser Don't have a problem with the 5 Pro - if people have the money and can justify it to themselves, then by all means go for it.

Seems a bit odd that Sony are having to release a console to counter all the short-comings in the original.
PS4 Pro had a point (4K display) but this?

Personally, and this is maybe just my view, I have a problem with the PS5 - it just isn't living up to expectations. Hardware-wise it's fine (if fat) but the games coming out seem very 'vanilla' compared to the PS3 & PS4 era (bar a handful of exceptions) and the amount of remakes/remasters of PS4 titles is just plain irritating while some PS3 titles that we want languish on the old hardware with dead servers.

Games have been released in a dubious state from back in the PS3 and PS4 days with Day 1 patches being mandatory so having even more to patch/overwrite on the PS5 is sort of expected these days. It does make me question how any game can reach a state to go gold when what is burned on the disc is knowingly broken.

i think a lot of people forget that the PS4 Pro even running on a 1080p display offered improvements, mainly due to its super-sampling option which effectively rendered a 4K image before squashing it down to 1080p , reducing 'jaggies' (smoothing edges) in the process. That and it had a boost mode - anyone would think that was a PS5 Pro only feature.

Personally, with a 72xx series PS4 Pro with a fast SSD inside it, and given the monotonous/remastered games plopping out on the PS5, I find less of a reason to use the newer (I would say better but...) console over the old one.

Wait a month and buy a disc from various retailers for £10-20 less than the ridiculous store price.
Simple, really.

Not listed on here but can recommend "Bubble Shooter FX" if you want a relaxing puzzle bobble style game after scaring yourself with the horror titles. There's a demo and the full version is only £4.
And, chill....

@Steel76 Funny thing is I have a folder on my PS4's dashboard called 'Demos' into which a put all the demo versions of games I've played or am playing.
Using the old stager is just so much nicer...

@OldGamer999 @ProfessorNiggle PS3 and PS4 beat them all....still.

@Jrs1 Turned mine off - dreary funereal dirge is really depressing.
By comparison, my PS4 Pro boots up with a classy retro-PS2 theme which is infinitely more welcoming.

Themes, eh? Who'd have thought they would've been the top requested feature (vying for top spot with folders) on a PS front end? Everybody it seems, apart from Fony.

@Rich33 "Sony really needs the Pro to be well adopted or it could have serious implications for PS6".

Won't make the slightest bit of difference to the PS6 - a stand alone product not shackled by the PS5 like the Pro is (as was the PS4 Pro by the base PS4).
PS6 will be PS5 Pro Plus doing all the things that the Pro does only a lot better (hopefully it'll look better than currant eye-sore too!).
Also it should have some other fab tech in it rather than just a warmed up GPU.

@Voltan Disappeared from PS Plus in Sept 2022, not been back long and there it goes again!

I'm dropping to Essential from Extra in December. Might as well just buy any of the limited titles available to Extra with the money saved, probably on disc as well, just to be sure.

@Skeletor85 PS4 Pro with a 6GB/s SSD counteracts much of the loading time issues?

Nothing on the PS5 has wow-ed me in the way that Uncharted: Drake's Fortune did back in the PS3 days. You knew we were in a new generation whereas this one has been a bit 'meh'.

Not much argument to say that "Among Thieves" is better than "Drake's Fortune" but I think "on the map in a way that the first game didn't quite manage" is a bit of a stretch.

Uncharted 1 was the first "OMG, PS2 couldn't do this!" event of the PS3/X360 era.

Shame the PS5 hasn't had a similar title.

Don't get the fascination - I had a Vita slim with the HORI 4-button grip and used that to connect to my PS4 to play Dragon Age amongst others.
Lag wasn't the issue (barely a stutter) but tiny screen was and I couldn't see the point (or anything else!)

Decided to buy another PS4 Pro (2nd hand for less than a portal and traded HORI grip in for about £60!) and installed that in the spare room - main TV collisions averted!

Just release the game (JUST the game) in a standard Blu-ray case on one (or more) discs as needed. Job done and they might even get more sales!

I miss Core Design. They did some corking games on the Amiga, such as Rick Dangerous

@LogicStrikesAgain Unfortunately, I think that in 2-3 years, the PS6 will be out (7 year gap) and then the PS5 & Pro just won't be worth much.
Fair play to buy one IF Sony manage to produce some decent, original titles but in a swirling miasma of remasters and nothing due 'til May 2025, it's a case of diminishing returns. Also, the Pro is going to be 'held back' by the base console that has proven to be less of an upgrade than many thought.
At best, I view the Pro as being a case of making the best of Sony's bad job.

Still baffles me that someone at Sony looked at the PS4's UI and functionality and thought, "no we don't want THAT on our latest console!"
Old stager STILL blows the PS5 UI out of the water over 4 years later.

Sony have always been slow sending out updates (maybe PS haven't got the localisation people any more now they're 'mercains?) - just look at their smartphone updates, arriving, in some cases, months after other manufacturers!

How to order:
1. Get a lobotomy
2. Feel happy handing over £800 for a console that barely does anything more than the last one (or the one before that)

Sega have commented recently that they have no intention of leaving older consoles such as Switch and PS4 behind unless technically impossible.

@Nakatomi_Uk Not even sure why they took it off in the first place? Still, can't have the PS4 embarrassing the PS5 titles, can we, eh?

Sounds like LBP 3 is heading this way and I suspect Everybody's Golf will be next, if it hasn't already been de-listed.

Fony Sony remastering crap that isn't needed and what we want are PS3/PS4 classics to come back

@zupertramp Looks like LBP is done with as MM are working on some other IP, last anyone heard from them. Shame.
All we've got of Sackboy is Big Adventure and let's face it, it's just not as good as LBP 1 & 2

@Nakatomi_Uk Not sure but I've just ordered a copy! Think there was a demo on PSN at some point but that's probably MIA too?

Dunno if it works on the PS5 - I would imagine it does according to YouTube? I've still got my proper Pro so I'm covered!

Someone on these hallowed pages said that the patches and so on were still accessible?

@zupertramp That's true but just because a game gets de-listed doesn't mean the patches aren't available.
I mean look at Driveclub - 10 years old now and dead as a dodo but the patches are still available, apparently.

TBH, preferred LBP 1 & 2 ('Uncle Jalapenos Boom Town' being a particular favourite level, especially in manic 4-player mode!)
Perhaps Media Molecule added an extra layer of magic dust over those? Of course those servers are long dead and the first two LBP games are permanently stuck on the PS3.

This is everything that is wrong with current Fony Sony.

Servers have been dead since the start of the year and were taken down just after Media Molecule uploaded all their objects, textures and so on for public consumption.

Total **** up.

Let's hope the character models look better than the Horizon remix.

Best R&C game was Tools of Destruction on the PS3.

@Nakatomi_Uk 'Cos Evolution are long gone, unfortunately, and current Sony are incompetent.

OnRush was the last I heard of Codemasters Evo (they were bought out) but as Sony owns the DriveClub IP (same for Motorstorm) these titles are likely to be stuck in limbo.

Let's hope they look through their back catalogue and come across dusty plans for a sequel to Rayman and Fenyx Rising...

@OldGamer999 Sony stipulated that all PS4 games should support (where applicable) enhanced features (usually resolution or frame-rate) on the PS4 Pro.

Not seen any such stipulation for the 5 Pro?

Cross gen titles are going to be fun going forwards with PS4 base/PS4 Pro/PS5 and now PS5 Pro levels of game look and feel!

"is a PS5 Pro just what you need to dive into your PS4 backlog?"

Nope, just need a decent PS4 - the not-overpriced Pro if you can get one.
Seriously, the amateur PS5 is becoming more irrelevant with every announcement New Sony makes...

"the platform holder is targeting a big PS5 push this holiday season, with new accessory colours and first-party games inbound"

Like what? A PS4 remaster that wasn't needed and looks worse than the original?
As for the plates not being available for the OG Tub o' Lard is just new Fony Sony expecting everyone to distch their originals and buy a slim. Personally, I bought some black Mcbazel plates so I can hide the ugly monstrosity away,

@SamMR At the current rate, the PS4 might outlast the PS5. How funny would that be?

Dragon Age is the only PS5 title I'm interested in (loved Origins and Inquisitor, less so DA:2) If that's a bust, I might sell the Tub o' Lard and start saving for a Switch 2 or PS6.

Other than that, I've got to wait until 21st November for Sociable Soccer 25 on the PS4.

Nothing to report.
What we'd like to see is San Diego studios doing something with the ModNation Racers IP as they must have the Road Trip source code on a server somewhere! That said, we'd need Sony to host a server for it and, as LBP has proven, they can't be arsed.

I think Fenyx 2 would've sold better but what do I know?

Shame nobody in Japan is buying a standard PS5, never mind being bothered about the hiked up models.

Personally, I bought some shaped-inline-with-the-inner-black of the PS5 mcbazel covers as I want to hide the overweight Tub o' Lard.

Nice to know that people still like Playstation controllers with coloured buttons though just like every PS model before the dreary 5.

@Kidfunkadelic83 Perhaps Xbox should change their name to CrossBox - they often seem quite angry!

All I can add is thank god for the PS4.

@lindos That's why I bought the Roku - no ads on that and a simple, easy to use UI. Maybe the PS4 of the streaming world?

@Meowmixes98 And yet the old stager downloads about 5 things at once without batting an eyelid. My PS4 Pro with SSD definitely seems to download games & patches faster than the 5?

So that's why Fony binned the excellent PS4 UI and replaced it with that turd. More and more ads, more store recommendations, etc. (i.e. give us all your money!)

Sorry Fony, but I'm not falling for it - you really have descended to a new low.

Still struggling to see the value in the base PS5 over the PS4 Pro at the moment, so I'm not going to drop £800 on a console with another little improvement.

Let me know when the PS6 and its exclusives gets announced. Meantime, I'm more interested in what will be announced as Switch 2.

It's that big to house all the unsold PS5s.

Was it The Gadget Show where they proved that playing Flower reduced your heart rate and calmed you down?

@Americansamurai1 Yes, that what I mean. American Fony's greed has just alienated the user base. They're on course to become as popular as Microsoft in the region.
With no PSP/Vita successor, they might as well call it quits.

This is Japan flicking two fingers at the once-Japanese company.

Well done Fony, you've handed your supposed homeland 100% over to Nintendo.

Can't remember if I bought it for cheap or got it for free in Covid times? Not played it that much, not my particular cup of tea.

Don't know why they didn't use Worms 2: Armageddon (PS3) which was probably the best of the lot.
Press X to action, square to jump, circle to bring up weapons - not that difficult is it?