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Still got the PS3 disc (and a working PS3 - otherwise it'd be a coaster).

Oblivion was so much more fun to play that Skyrim. Creeping around in those Ayleid ruins and taking out a bandit with a bow was just great.

Turned it off as soon as I got the Tub o' Lard. Microscopic hard drive space being eaten up by pointless clips....

All physical for me - including a recent 2nd hand purchase of Driveclub which still works and patches are still downloadable. Can't even buy that on the PS Store.

Only thing I have purchased digitally was Baldur's Gate 3 which isn't available on physical for a sensible price. If there was a sensible physical 'Standard' edition containing discs in a blu-ray case, I'd have gone for that.

Still hoping against hope that San Diego studio relaunch ModNation Racers.
However that would require Fony to switch on a server for the online content sharing and we know their attitude about that when looking at LBP...

Power it down every time.
It's in a 4-way extension socket, along with the TV and the PS4 Pro, and that extension has a power on off switch that gets turned off every night.

Still got my PS3 Slim and 3 fully working DualShock 3s and a stack of discs.
x86 "push pop" architecture vs Cell distributed processing requires a lot of horsepower.

Dragon Age: The Veilguard for me.

Slick and polished - more than can be said for Dragon's Dogma 2...

Can't wait for the new Nintendo console as then, finally, MK8 and Minecraft might eventually bog off! I mean, who is still buying these in large enough numbers to make it into the top 10??

My PS+ Extra expired in early December. I was going to downgrade to Essential, given how poor the Extra service had become given the price, but I eventually let it lapse as I have a USB stick to save my PS4 saves to..
Don't have enough free time to try out all the games, never mind Premium, so I really can't justify spending £100 or more on simply backing up PS5 game saves (of which there are very few) and playing online when ESO is waiting for the next expansion.

@Max_the_German "I don’t want Arrogant Sony to return". I'm afraid they're already here.

That said, M$ seem to have lost all direction in terms of what an Xbox is and all Joe Public is seeing is Xbox floundering and PS5 becoming the dominant console (if the PS4 vs XBone sales figures weren't enough)
Just hope Nintendo come out kicking bottom...

Oblivion is much more fun than Skyrim. Creeping around in those old Ayleid ruins and taking someone out with an arrow was a fantastic experience.

@__jamiie Nostalgia, I suspect!

Dunno really - might just be because Sony were more fun back in those days, rather than the Apple wannabes they've turned into.

@nhSnork "Lite's sales count towards Switch's just like PSTV's did towards Vita's"
Yes, they count towards the total Switch sales, but it can easily be argued they they aren't home consoles - that was my point about the PS2 being the best selling HOME console.

Well, the Switch has got to sell about another 10-11 million units to unseat the PS2. It could do it , but let's face it, we don't want it to. The PS2 is a legend.
Even if it does clear that 160.n million, the PS2 will still remain the best selling HOME console of all time as the Switch Lites won't count towards that.
Dunno why but I kind of hope that the PS5 lifetime sales fall short of the PS4s - perhaps it's a hope that Sony will realise that cheaper consoles sell better and will price the 6 accordingly?

XBox seems dead in the water and that does NOT bode well for Sony's arrogance.
Can only hope that Nintendo come out with something that gives the PS5 a bloody nose but I doubt it.

Definitely looking forward to Atomfall - a UK based Fallout? Yes please.

Keeping an eye on Crimson Desert given that Black Desert looked amazing but played so poorly.

@themightyant I just used it for online play, such as ESO. Obviously lost access to that at the moment and the 'free' games have been somewhat disappointing.
Only other useful feature is PS5 game save backups, on account of Sony being too tight to allow USB backups (but do still allow PS4 backups??)

Might re-sub to Essential if there's a new year discount but not holding my breath. Was on Extra (after a weird £5 upgrade fee for almost 18 months of my remaining sub) but barely playing anything on that as I've been hanging around on PS + for almost as long as it's been around and buying games I'm interested in.

My PS+ expired on the 4th December after umpteen years since the PS3 days and I can't say I'm missing it so far. These titles aren't going to make me rush back.

Tend to be 80% physical 20% digital (although that includes some games that aren't on physical).

It's all well and good until something gets de-listed. Recently mentioned case in point (due to its 10 year anniversary) is Driveclub. Digital? Nothing.. However, get a 2nd hand disc, shove it in the PS4/5 and watch as the patches download...

Lightweight, fun games - exactly what the PS5 has been missing since it launched.

Scalpers.....ready!

The Sonic & Sega All Stars games are brilliant - even after all this time and being stuck on the PS3/Vita generation.
Here's hoping we get a new version of a firm fan favourite.

Surprised Etsy haven't updated the Framed Playstation 4 Controller Disassembled to be the Driftsense 5 - there must be enough broken ones out there now....

Wow - almost makes me miss the constant remasters...

@Nekomichu @Member_the_game Mine lapsed on the 4th December. I used to buy 'em and stack 'em every Black Friday (using ShopTo's discounted vouchers) but obviously New Sony don't want you to do that so they can fleece you of even more money.
I have enough credit in my wallet (using ShopTo's discounted vouchers again) to buy Essential should I need to but at the moment, I don't need it and begrudge paying £60 just to play online (anyone remember the free PS3 or even the £40 PS4 days?)

Just dropped PS+.
Might get reinstated if a) Sony offer loyal customers since the PS3 PS+ days to a discount, or b) I get a hankering to play some Elder Scrolls Online.

Will Diablo 4 have displaced ESO as my usual time-killer?

Miss the days when we used to get a free theme with the wrap up.

I'm just hoping it plays better than Black Desert which looked beautiful, but turned out, gameplay-wise, to be a pile of poo.

@Vorflynn He's probably talking about the coil whine.

@TheArt @AverageGamer Thank you folks! I didn't think Layden mentioned anything about Cloud gaming - it's all about the same-chips hardware.

I agree that PS1 to PS3 was a sizeable leap each time. I would argue that, despite the antiquated x86/x64 architecture, the PS4 was a noticeable upgrade over the PS3. The PS5 is definitely not a generational leap - maybe the Pro is? Sticking a 6GB/s SSD in a PS4 Pro, you'd be amazed at what a difference it makes so the load speed can be mitigated.
The fact is that the PS5 has double the memory that the PS4 has and more powerful CPU/GPU but that just seems to be a reason for devs to release unoptimised code and hope that the console can brute force its way through, whereas on older gens, every byte and clock cycle was critical.

Perhaps in a year or two, you'll have a choice of PS7 and the latest XBox which will just be a Windows 12 PC with a easy to use front end sitting under your TV?

@get2sammyb Thing is, Sammy, as I and others have said, the PS3 XMB had game artwork AND themes.
Hover over a game and if it had artwork (or a mini-video) it'd show up. If a game didn't have one, the theme would remain visible.
And let's face it, the XMB is a much better interface that the default PS5 one - the only reason the PS5 one looks like it is is to promote sales on the PS Store but it is a big mess.

1) Wipeout 2097 and THAT soundtrack.
2) Tomb Raider - the original and best.
3) Playing Doom on a sofa

Knock £5 off those DS5 prices above if you shop at Currys.

@AverageGamer True, but I always have some respect for Burton for peeing all over Sony's bull line of R&C Rift Apart being 'only possible due to the PS5 SSD'.

Enjoy it while it lasts - probably stick them behind a PS+ Premium paywall as their next move.
After these go, guess I'll have to keep booting up my PS4 Pro with its Anniversary (PS1 startup) and Legacy theme (PS2 startup and visuals).

Why is it only for a limited time? They've at least put (not nearly enough) effort into improving the horrid PS5 UI to support all this only for it to disappear??
What's next - are they going to be available but only for PS+ Premium subscribers?
Really don't understand this generation of Playstation - seems so far removed from the PS4 days.

Nice to see Nate, Sackboy and Wipeout shown - never to return again? Far more iconic than the recent meh titles.

@get2sammyb The PS3 themes would work fine with the unholy PS5 interface - game screens when selected in the XMB or continuing the theme if the game didn't have one or you were on a different function.

Well done Sony - now give us proper themes!

Booting the PS4 Pro and seeing the legacy dynamic theme is so much nicer than the miserable PS5 sound & visuals.

The Lego games seemed to go downhill post PS3, apart from Lego Super Villains on the PS4 which was quite good.
LSW: The Skywalker Saga was nowhere near as much fun as LSW: The Original Trilogy on PS2/PSP or LSW: The Complete Saga on PS3.
Perhaps they are missing the creative talents, such as Jon Burton?

Just cancelled my PS+ sub, first time since the PS3 days. Says it all, really.

Don't know if it's just me but Extra really seems to be going down the drain, with all Sony's emphasis being on the most expensive tier.
I was going to drop down to Essential from Extra this year but instead I've cancelled my subscription.
Only been with PS+ since the PS3 days, Sony, so don't worry about giving loyal customers a discount!

Happy to wait until I can see what the PS6 does (or doesn't) bring to the party.
Hopefully they might have fixed the stick drift by then - you never know!

Sad times. The fun iteration of Sony disappears for good and what are we left with? Hermen....

Whether it does or doesn't get (technically) overtaken, the PS2 will remain the best selling HOME console of all time because the Switch Lite's aren't home consoles.

To me, "by far their biggest game" means don't buy it at the start, wait until all the colossal bug fixes have been distributed.

Be interested to see how it turns out though. In the meantime, I have a hankering to play Lego Indiana Jones on the Vita/PSP.

@MrPeanutbutterz Unfortunately both Studio Liverpool and Evolution are long dead and Sony's first party studios don't seem to have the know-how to even remaster the old ones.
Plus they'd need the green light from Herman and we know how useful he's been in anything not Horizon related....

@Czar_Khastik You'd need a handheld with a disc drive on the back. Hmmm, reminds me of something....

Offline mode?

My PS2 fat one was in the GT3 pack. Good times...

Traveller's Tales make Lego games (even if they're lacking something post-Jon Burton) and they would also have had the sense to release it on PS4 as well.

Who even wanted this anyway? A purely Sony IP not know outside of the PS universe?

1) call is PSP - everyone knew what it was and I got fed up of explaining what a Vita was
2) give it a decent price point so those of us with other commitments can afford it
3) make it backwards compatible with PS4/PS5 games

Thing is, the Vita was and, to a certain point, still is a cracking handheld - just the right size and still feels a lot more premium than the Nintendo/Fisher Price Switch Lite.
The main reason the Vita failed was because Sony put all their efforts behind the PS4 and crippled the handheld (looking at those stupidly priced memory cards) before stabbing it in the back.

My PS+ Extra subscription ends on the 4th December so I've bought some credit for my wallet from ShopTo with a reasonable discount and I'm dropping to Essential.
Thanks for nothing, Sony! Only been with you since the original PlayStation days...