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Perhaps they should have popped the side panels off and hoovered it out before the event as the PS5 does seem to suck up a lot of fluff that gets stuck inside it and that isn't going to help with cooling.

@Andy22385 Yes, CEX isn't the best example these days.

Admittedly I bought mine in Black Friday prices around Christmas time, but I got a 'very good' condition (turned out to be mint) PS5 disc drive fatty with all the cables and so on for £344 from Music Magpie. Even had a 1TB Seagate Firecuda expansion in it's expansion port that someone couldn't be bothered or forgot to remove.

There are so many used PS5s (and Pros) out there, dunno why anyone is buying a new one.
Save yourself a few hundred quid by getting a used A-grade one from Amazon, eBay, Music Magpie, CEX, Cash Converters, etc, etc.

@carlos82 That FitBit looks a tad cumbersome but at least you'll be working out while wearing it!

The original Control was excellent - intriguing and scary in equal amounts.
Got into playing the original on the PS4 Pro and it played smooth as anything and I don't think I encountered any bugs.
Couldn't be bothered to restart on the PS5 as the saves didn't transfer for some still-unexplained reason?

MS will leave the next gen to Wintel based PCs with a set of predefined Xbox specifications. Can't see there's any other way to fight their own incompetence but a baby PC sitting in the corner of the room instead of a dedicated console could be an attractive proposition for some as an alternative to the PS6 (let's hope that looks better than the current eyesore)

Media Molecule's LBP1 & 2 (still stuck on the PS3) are a class above the rather dull A Big Adventure. Shutting down the LBP servers was just a move too far in my opinion. How much does it cost to host all that user created content online?

@The_ghostmen MM didn't do the lacklustre LBP3 - that was Sumo wasn't it?

No point giving Sony any more money - there are shed loads of used very good/mint condition PS5s out there.

Just go to CEX/Cash Converters/Music Magpie and look for a PS5 - I got a mint condition 1216 model disc-drive Fatty (with an extra 1TB storage that someone had forgotten to take out!) from MM for £340 in their Black Friday sale at the end of last year.

Always wait for update 1.4 before plunging into any Bethesda game - that way they've normally fixed all the things that were broken originally or got broken in updates 1.1, 1.2 & 1.3 so everything is a bit more stable.

It's funny that we used to have blockbuster films and they then spawned a game on the home consoles/computers of the time (e.g. Batman on the ZX Spectrum, C64, Amiga) and now we just seem to have films being made of games.

I've still got the original on my PS3 (don't remember it ("ran like sh*t on the PS3")) but perhaps I need to start it up and see if I'm looking through rose-tinted glasses or if it was that bad?
I'm sure a few patches (wouldn't be a Bethesda original without it!) and it'll stabilise a lot.

More Broforce please! Best game in ages, that.

@belmont Same here - no automatic notification but it was there in the System Update settings.
Now if only Sony would allow us to customise the dreary'"music" on the dashboard.

No sign of the PS1 startup chime either....?

@HUMPERDOO PS3 & PS4 UIs are still light years ahead of the 5.

If this does well, we could end up with ANOTHER version of Skyrim - dear lord, no....

Loved Oblivion - far more than Skyrim, which I just couldn’t get into.

See, these are the remasters/remakes we want - something trapped on the PS3, brought up to date.

One of the best games on the Switch. Shame if they don't port it to the PS4 as well but I suppose those dev resources have to be put somewhere.

@Ilyn It's a good point. I mean the PS3/4 can only access ~50GB per disc, the HD Blu-ray on the PS5 can access ~100GB per disc.

If the Switch 2 cartridges can only access ~64GB, then they're potentially going to have to download at least a portion of some games, not including online patches. Of course, as we've seen with the Switch, they allow those strange download code in a retail box so I can see that may be the case going forwards - no cartridge required?

None of those games come close but if we stretch a little further back to the PS3 era and we have both Sonic and All Stars Racing titles and even F1 All Stars by Codemasters in 2012?

It's simple, wait a few weeks/months and then purchase a physical copy for much less than the store price.

At least Nintendo are attaching a physical drive for the price...

Sony became a lot better from the consumer point of view in the PS4 era.
PS5 though, and the PS3-eque attitude reared up again. And on simple things as well, such as if PS4 saves can be backed up on a USB stick, why not the PS5 saves? Simple, more money from a PS subscription.

I'd wait for a few weeks and pick up a disc from an online retailer for £10-20 less than the price on the PS Store.
As you say, @RadioHedgeFund, we never asked for game development that cost more than several blockbuster movies.

I mean look at Atomfall. £55 on the store, £45 for a posted disc on Amazon, Game Collection, etc. And that game shows up quite a lot of first party output.

I'd wait for a few weeks and pick up a disc from an online retailer for £20 less than the price on the rip-off PS Store.

No wonder Sony/MS want physical media to die off though weirdly Ninty don't seem to see an end in sight for physical.

Sony will be fine, but let's not forget that Playstation is now about as Japanese as mom's apple pie these days.

Wish list should contain "Wish Sony would port the PS4 Store to the PS5". The old stager's store is so much easier to navigate.

I'm against all these PS4-PS5 remasters ('cos they're pointless) but it's mainly the PS3 era stuff that NEEDS remastering as the PS5 isn't grunty enough to emulate the Cell architecture.

So, we need:
1. Motorstorm
2. Wipeout
3. ModNation Racers
Heck, might as well throw LBP in there too (for 1 & 2 ) as MM aren't working on a new one apparently.

IPs such as MotorStorm, Wipeout and ModNation Racers are as dead as a dodo but would sell well on the newer PlayStations if they were rebooted so why not lease them out?

Let's hope Bandai Namco continue these old IP restarts. I'd buy ModNation Racers and the MotorStorm trilogy if they got the go ahead.

@Northern_munkey Yep, the PS4 Pro could chuck circa-4K visuals round at 60fps for F1 2021-2024 so I don't think this will be pushing the PS5 to its limits. EA have just made a commercial vs dev time decision. Either that or they need the extra processing power to handle all of Hamilton's bling?

Glad to see one of the iconic franchises coming back.

Still miffed that they killed off the majority of the PS4 edition when they shut down the server but I suppose if it didn't have a lot of players, then the server gets shut down.
Be interesting to see who will be hosting the online servers this time - hopefully NOT Sony.

Might go for the Switch version anyway - bought Easy Come Easy Golf (Clap Hanz) a little while ago but it didn't hold a candle to Everybody's Golf on the PS4, PS Vita or even the PSP versions.

It's almost as if Sony are trying to wean us off PS4 titles being included by providing us with utter tripe....

Stop messing about Sony and give us folders and themes. They won't though.
Lets hope for a significant UI and functionality update for the PS6. With luck they'll boot up a PS3 and PS4 and go 'ohh, so THAT'S what everyone keeps asking for!'
With luck, they could add the PS4's download chip back in too.

"the PS5 is outpacing the PS4" - but only in Trumpland (might as well call it that now) We 'freeloaders' have other ideas.

Perhaps Sony should set up a Studio in Japan - no idea what they could call it...

PS4 does automatically update - at least last time I tried it. I had Diablo 4 and ESO downloading patches as soon as I booted the old stager.

In fact, the PS4 is still far ahead of the PS5 as it can download multiple updates at the same time unlike the 'queued' wonder.

When Sony decide to de-list the game, this disc will still work as the key when you can't see the game on the store.

@nomither6 You're right - the first Xbox was just a DellPCInABox. It even had an Intel Celery processor.

In many ways, this could make good sense for Microsoft - a pre-built PC with pre-determined specs (maybe with upgrade options) that can happily sit under your TV without looking like an eyesore (I'm looking at you, 5) and play all your PC and Xbox games in one place. Might well end up being cheaper than the PS6? Might even have an HD Blu-ray drive option?

@LiamCroft Thanks for the reply, Liam. Interestingly, the PS4 disc version advertises a PS5 upgrade available so I assume that'd be like Fallout 4, for example, where the PS4 disc works as the key.

@Steelhead thanks for that. - just had a look and it looks a bit 'jerky'. Couldn't see any mention as to what it was running on (base PS5 or is that the 4?)

"On the PS5 Pro at least, it all runs excellently too"

@LiamCroft And for we peasants who have a base PS5 or a PS4 (inc. Pro)? What can we expect?

@nomither6 Yes, my fat one died after about 5.5 years of loyal service (I bought one just after Sony's announcement that they were stopping the 60GB units and replacing them with the non-b/c 40GBs)

Still got my 25xx series Slim though (which can only play 2 generations sadly) and I've still got 3 official DualShock 3s which have outlasted 2 Driftsenses...

@Shad361 PS3 remains the only PS console capable of playing CDs, DVDs and Blu-rays so it was almost an entertainment centre in itself.

USA, home of the Xbox - and even the mom's basement dwellers have the intellect to realise what's happening to the Xbox, with all the previous exclusives appearing on the PS5 so why buy an Xbox?

Europe’s a different matter (and yes, I still class we Brits as Europeans) but the PS5 to Xbox Series consoles ratio will continue to widen unless M$ can come up with some way of Xbox being relevant again.
PS4 is still in use by millions of users (don't know if you can even buy one any more but sales fell once the Pro was canned?) but some people can't be bothered to upgrade. Even the most anticipated game of recent weeks, Atomfall, is cross-gen.

@dodgykebaab Don't hate it - I have no need for it but I do want a full handheld console, as with the PSP and the Vita (hopefully without Sony stabbing it in the back this time!)

@dodgykebaab Vita can remote play PS4 games so.....yes, just like the Portal.
Also, I can play games in Wi-Fi dead spots (e.g. aeroplane) where the Portal is a door stop.

This looks really up my street!

Only problem seems to be the character creation where the bodies seem to indicate a lot of pie eating.

@Lindy01 If the rumours are true of Sony coming out with a self contained proper handheld alongside the PS6, with that functionality as an option, then I'd be excited.

Don't remember my PSP, Vita or Switch needing to be connected to the WiFi to play a game...

Never heard of it and never likely to now.

Sad when an entire studio shuts down but hopefully some good will come out of this in that someone will finally notice that live service games don't go down well with the PS fraternity.
It has to do something different and brilliant to thrive.

This looks fab, and not just because I've got heavily into Fallout 4 recently.

Be interested in seeing the differences between the PS4, PS4 Pro and PS5 display options.

Hades for £8 but apart from that...

Expect announcement of various TT staff leaving to join team Lego. They might even get Burton back?