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@LiamCroft My apologies - that must've slipped out unannounced at some point then!

@LiamCroft I don't think Goat Simulator 3 ever hit the PS4, did it? Not that it's a great tragedy that it didn't.

I remember Microsoft shooting themselves in the foot over the XBone launch which gave a very relieved Sony a free shot at market dominance again with the PS4.
But current Xbox? That's a whole different level of stupidity...

Unfortunately we needed Xbox to be present in some meaningful way to keep Sony in check so I'm concerned about no competition - perhaps SEGA could give it another go?

@EK42 SEGA said recently that if a game can run on the older hardware then why not?
Probably 40 milltion active PS4s out there is the reason why Sonic Racing: Crossworlds exists on the PS4.

It needs an internet connection to download all the patches (current & future) to get a PS3 game up and limping on the PS5.

The PS3 game and all its expansions got distributed on one 50GB disc and given that the PS5 has a 100GB high-def blue-ray drive, why couldn't it have all the data on it?

Sony's stories getting samey? Well, given the amount of flippin' remasters they keep green lighting when they have so many 'dead' IPs to call on, the stories are going to be same-y 'cos it's a slightly shinier version of a game I've already enjoyed on a PS3/PS4 Pro.

Their 1st party adventure games in the past have been brilliant - not that we've seen much from those studios over the last 2 years.

@Ricky-Spanish The original CUH-7000 series PS4 Pro consoles could get very loud. The 1st revision (CUH-7100) was quieter but the best one is the end-of-the-line CUH-7200 series which were much quieter - keep an eye out for ones in the RDR2 or CoD:MW packaging as these are the 7200 series.

My 7200 is now 6 years old and it still barely makes a noise - when it does kick its fans up it's not as distracting. If needs be, as some of these machines have had a LOT of use over a LOT of years, your local PC shop will be able to apply new thermal paste and one of the latest Delta/Nidec fans to create an eerily quiet one for about £50.
Also, if you get a Pro, replace the internal HDD with a Samsung/Crucial SSD and gain the full benefit of the SATA3 6GB/s interface.

I'd happily do without any subscription apart from a) my odd foray into ESO and b) save game backups which the PS4 has available on a USB stick but not the PS5 game saves (oddly the PS4 saves to local backup are still allowed on The Tub o' Lard).

"security fixes"

Expect incoming PS4 update too then.

Edit: and there it is - 13.02 for PS4

I wonder what state it will be in when it gets released physically?

Given that the full game was on one PS3 GOTY blu-ray and the fatty 5 can read twice as much as that and read data-compressed files so why wouldn't it be one disc? That said, it's going to need to download a series of patches.

Sony effectively shafted Clap Hanz when they killed off Japan Studio so they went off to create a mobile game for Apple Arcade and then that was ported to the Switch under the "Easy Come, Easy Golf" game.
If you want to blame anyone, that lies purely at the door of Sony.

Probably cheaper to make and priced the same just so Sony can up their profits a little bit more...?

Very profitable and they keep selling them for ever increasing prices when the cost of a console has come down (Sony said that the PS5 slim would be cheaper to produce than the original fatties).
When it's cleared over 120m units and overtaken the PS4, then fair enough. Until then, no it isn't. And the PS2 says 'hi' from the top of an unassailable mountain.

Don't think Goat Simulator 3 ever got released for the PS4 - not that it's a problem as it seems far less fun than the chaotic original.

Alan Wake 2 though - that's a nice to have!

The PS4 Pro had a point - 4K displays and improved 1080p.

I still can't see the point of the, frankly overpriced, PS5 Pro unless it was Sony admitting that the original PS5 wasn't up to snuff?

So, Sony want £435 for a Slim with disc drive or £340 for one without.

Thing is, Argos are selling the add-on disc drives for £70 bringing the digital+disc version to £410 so who in their right mind would buy the bundle with the disc drive for an extra £25?

The update doesn't seem to do much as expected. They say some messages have changed (doesn't say which ones) but I suspect it's security loophole fixes and perhaps updating its Blu-ray key as well.

The point is there are TONNES of used PS5 consoles out there - fatties, slims and Pros (a lot of them) - probably due to people upgrading to a Pro (and in some cases selling them again) so why bother buying new when you can get a used one with at least as good a warranty as the Sony original?

My console came from Music Magpie in their end of year Black Friday-esque deals and was described as Very Good condition but when it arrived, there wasn't a mark on it and the extra Seagate Firecuda 1TB was a distinct bonus.

Still got my PS4 Pro 72xx series with 1TB internal SSD under the TV.
If anything, it seems about as quiet as the PS5 for the majority of games. And I still prefer the DS4 on looks and ergonomics.

Bought a 2nd hand, mint condition disc-drive fatty for £344 with a year's warranty
Came with a 1TB hard drive expansion that someone must've forgotten to take out. Seems better value to me!

It was a fail for me as soon as I realised there was no split screen couch multiplayer.

@DualWielding In order to use your DS5 on a different console (say, a friend's one) you have to unregister it from the your console and then pair it on the other console which is a right royal pain in the rear. Hopefully it'll make it work like the PS4 where you just plug the controller in and press the PS button?

Looks like a cross between TrackMania Turbo and Motorstorm, so I'm interested!
Interesting to see it's coming out on the old-stager too...

@shonenjump86 I'm not sure if there was some bad blood between Sony and Clap Hanz after the dissolving of Japan Studio.

Either way, don't bother with Everybody's Golf, at least yet. It is terrible with weird characters and badly lagging gameplay. I'd stick with "Easy Come, Easy Golf" which is a much superior product and much closer to actual Everybody's Golf.

As with all PlayStations ever since, I always wait for a year or so after launch for all the teething troubles to get ironed out by early adopters.
Traded it in eventually at my local GAME store when the GT3 pack for the PS2 arrived. The PS1 was great until the PS2 arrived and that really was the GOAT!

Even the PS Store still has the PS4 version listed!?!?

@dodgykebaab I always thought that the PS4 disc drive was missing a laser, same as the 5? Is that not the case?

If I was being cynical, I'd suggest that New Sony won't allow backwards compatibility as they want to resell you the games you already own rather than allowing you to use your disc.

Strange that the PS3 is still the only PS with a CD, DVD & Blu-ray compatible drive.

Well, I've played numerous Everybody's Golf games, including the PSP and Vita versions, I can honestly say this is the worst one of the lot.
I'd rather be playing EG2 on the PSP or "Easy Come, Easy Golf" on the Switch because they're much better than this travesty. I hope a LOT of improvements happen - otherwise it'll be a trade-in at CEX.

I'll reserve judgement until I see the trailer but having paid actual money to see the last Indiana Jones film at the cinema, I'm not exactly brimming with confidence.

Hope Sophie goes more Angelina than Alicia - proper, old school, sassy Tomb Raider.

"Easy Come Easy Golf on the Switch is VERY Everybody's Golf, even if it's just a port of Apple Arcade Clap Hanz Golf (with physical controls).

I hope this will get several patches to improve a lot of the negatives about frame rate. If all else fails I've still got Everybody's Golf 2 on the PSP!

The more Sony keep increasing the price of the PS5, the more chance we have of the PS4 hanging in there until 2026 and beyond. There is no reason for the PS5 to be increasing in price at this time in its lifecycle (apart from corporate greed).

The PS6 will launch and still the trusty PS4 old-stager will be getting releases.

I still find it weird that the PSP could be connected to a TV (PSP 2000 onwards via a component cable) but the Vita didn't feature a video out port.

I bought the PS, PS2, PS3 and PS4 about a year after they'd been out because I wanted to play some of the games that had appeared.
I bought the PS5 on a case of FOMO and to be honest, I could have just left it at the PS4 Pro.
The never-ending stream on remasters/remakes and other such tiresome titles eventually coming out just leaves me confused - the PS3->PS4 remasters were needed as the architecture was totally different but PS4>PS5 is just plain stupid.
By all means patch an extra frame rate boost in there but remastering a game which in some cases looks worse than the original when BC is available is causing me to see if I can be bothered to 'upgrade' to the next PlayStation.

Control was one of the unexpected highlights of the PS4 era (played superbly on the Pro) and I'm excited to see what they have in mind for the sequel.

@Scottyy I think anyone who's been around in the Playstation ecosystem for a while misses the 'old Sony'.
Post-Layden, PlayStation seems to have become a terrible corporate wall of suits with all the 'fun' of the earlier generations surgically removed.
It'll be interesting to see if this shift to a "community-based engagement business” will have any positive effects. I, sadly, suspect not.

I bought my first Playstation because of the games on that platform. Same applied to the PS2, 3 & 4.
PS5 was the first bought on the 'fear of missing out' principle and to be honest, I could've not bothered as this gen has been so disappointing.

Don't think there are any? The base game contains all the main quests and areas plus 1 or two of what were expansions including Morrowind , I believe.
Honestly, if you get into it, the base game will keep you playing for months.

@rjejr I suspect that the PS4 has probably cleared 120 million now but only Sony will know the total number or units manufactured (which is why some Nintendo Switch owners seem angry about the PS2 'moving goalposts' by clearing 160m according to ex-Jimbo).

During the early years of the PS5, didn't Sony order another 1 million PS4s to top up their console sales due to the PS5s being so restricted due to the supply of components post-Covid?

@11001100110zero I take it that it isn't good news that Sega have confirmed support (where the game allows) for the older consoles (Switch, PS4) for the next couple of years then?
Personally, I much preferred the PS4 era compared to the PS5 which only seems popular because it's standing on the PS4's shoulders and a game being on the PS4 as well doesn't mean it can't look good and be fun.

Interesting that the PS5 is going to have to sell half as many AGAIN in order to get near the actual sales for the PS4.
And in that time-frame, the PS6 will loom ever-closer over the horizon.

"Just 17% of the market went to physical copies, which is an increase from last year."

Interesting....

@Danbottomburp You can often pick up the base game for cheap on the Store, or about a fiver on disc, and then all you need is your PS+ connection - no other fees unless you want to buy some expansion zones.

LBP 1 & 2 (even the PS and Vita releases) were and still are classics - apart from the fact that Fony shut down the servers which was part of the fun.
The real kicker was that they shut down the final server (PS4 LBP3) shortly AFTER MM had uploaded all their textures, objects, game elements onto the server so creative types could create AND SHARE their own levels.

Hope David Smith, Mark Healey, Kareem Ettouney, and Alex Evans all find each other out there in the Imagisphere and come up with something imaginative to put some fun back into the PS5's library.

Performed absolutely fine on my PS4 Pro when I tried it but god, did the fans kick up to hurricane force levels!
All the hallmarks of badly optimised code as the game ran without issues and, lets face it, the graphics and gameplay were hardly pushing the CPU/GPU...

If it can run on the Switch, it can run (probably better) on the PS4 - this is a commercial decision.

@Jrs1 @nessisonett Whatever is left of Codemasters in these EA days, they could do worse than remaster F1 Race Stars with the new drivers and liveries.
It'd be a potential money grab too (appealing to the EA types) as they could release new tracks as and when and old drivers (Schumacher, Hill, Mansell, etc.) I seem to remember buying the all the extra tracks for the PS3 years ago?

A few more gigabytes saved...

Played this A LOT on the fatty PS3. Performance was janky at best but it was compelling with a massive map to explore. I think I might have finished it in light mode?

As @kevinm360 says, the Blind Guardian quest was funny and the in-game concert was fabulous!

It's odd how the first one never arrived on the PS or Xbox and Sacred 3 was an absolute turd.

I wonder if it'll contain the Ice & Blood expansion (that only got released on the PC)?

@Orpheus79V Thanks for that. I'll probably catch this when the next series of Star Trek: Strange New Worlds makes an appearance.

Peacock? What's that in British English (the proper one)?

Are we talking Netflix, Prime, Disney or Paramount or is it entire sub all to itself?

Coming on Switch too and that's where I might very well get it!

If it wasn't for the fact that I already bought Dragon Age and Diablo 4, it'd be OK.

As things stand, I won't be renewing my sub early next year and the only reason I subbed this time was because I had a few PS5 saves that I wanted to back up and Fony are too tight to allow the backup to USB like Sony did with the PS4 saves because it was a nice thing to do. That Sony is dead and the money grabbing Fony corporation are in charge now.

PS6 will have to bring something mind blowing as otherwise I'll be investing in a gaming PC next time.

Another terrible month - another souls-a-like (yawn) and 2 titles that aren't worth the electricity to download.