1) Check prices on "sale".
2) Go and buy cheaper on disc (if available) from A. N. Other online retailer.
3) If not, add funds using vouchers from ShopTo and purchase from Store.
Went to cancel, got offer for £45 (on the Sony website) for a year of Essential. To be honest, the only thing I'd miss is cloud saves, but that's only due to Sony being too stingy to allow USB backups of PS5 game saves.
@Balaam_ It wasn't Media Molecule's decision to shut down the LBP servers, it was Sony's infrastructure incompetence. In fact, only a few months before Sony shut the servers down, MM uploaded all their LBP textures, objects and so on so the community could use them.
"the PS6 may be the console with enough CPU power to properly cope with PS3 emulation"
Isn't that what we've been saying for years? Those (rather clever) distributed programming SPUs were a pig to code but the results were very good indeed when used correctly.
£60 for a years worth of Essential is just too much. I was all on for cancelling and when I got to the "are you sure?" screen, I was offered the same thing but for £45! That is a more reasonable price for that level of service (£40 would've been better!) The fact that Sony have locked game save backups behind the subscription tiers is the really annoying part - if you can allow PS4 saves to be backed up to a USB stick, they can also do it for the PS5 but they choose not to due to $$$$s.
@Gazray If the base consoles start to struggle, don't expect any PS5 Pro exclusives.
Same as happened with the PS4 Pro - a console that could run Cyberpunk 2077 rather well by all accounts but the game was still broken on the base 4 and it was dropped.
If the base PS5 starts struggling, the PS6 will be the only long term answer.
My disc fatty base unit cost me just £344 from Music Magpie so I think that'll see me through to the next gen.
I only sub to Essential as I wanted to 1) back up some game saves and 2) play occasional bursts of ESO.
1) Backing up game saves shouldn't be locked behind a cloud paywall! Sony obviously took the PS4's save to USB code over to the PS5's OS but then couldn't be arsed to expand that to cover PS5 saves? More likely the money grabbing bar-stewards thought of another way to rinse a bit more cash out of gamers.
2) ESO doesn't charge for on-line but I have to sub to PS+ so I can play a game I bought?
I was going to let mine lapse until I went to cancel the auto renewal and got an offer (on the Sony website) in the "Are you sure you want to cancel?" screen for one year of Essential for £45.
@LowDefAl That's true but Japan Studio were publisher and technical resource for Clap Hanz when they were making the Everybody's Golf series on PSP, PS2, PS3 and PS4. Closing them caused Clap Hanz problems - that's why I said that there's some bad blood. Otherwise, why hasn't Sony reached out to them to bring the Clap Hanz Golf (Apple Arcade) or Easy Come, Easy Golf (Switch) to the Playstation? And as for that Namco Bandai garbage, well....
@get2sammyb Don't feel too bad for Clap Hanz, Sammy. After Sony shafted them with the closure of Japan Studio, they've moved into mobile and Switch-land with the VERY familiar 'Easy Come, Easy Golf'.
There's clearly some bad blood between Clap Hanz and Sony, which lead to the putrid turd that plopped out from Namco Bandai which had the audacity to try and clam it was a legitimate entry in the Everybody's Golf franchise!
Personally I'd like to see a Motorstorm reboot but with Evolution killed off, I just can't see it happening.
Hope they've really improved on the open world use. That was one of the biggest Achilles' heels for the PS4/PS5 releases - to the extent that the Vita versions were overall better as you didn't have to keep going through it to get to the next level.
@TrollOfWar About to say the same thing - it was included in PS Plus Essential a year or two ago. I never bought it but I have it in my library. We bought a copy for my son and he still boots it up from time to time.
Sounds like this is going to die quite quickly, following in the ill-fated footsteps of The Witcher. Just waiting to see if Fallout also falls victim to the same problems.
The early PS5 market was filled by (somewhat rabid) people who would buy anything with the dreary black on while label to justify the console's existence so unsurprising that one of the first titles sold quite a few.
Been a fan of Housemarque's earlier stuff (as far back as Super Stardust on the Amiga) but since then it seems to have become a bit 'meh' for almost twice the price.
Would love an update from Media Molecule on what they're up to - PS5 has been missing their creative input. Probably be interested to see what the Tomb Raider (3rd remake?) will look like.
And yes, I'd like a PS6 update - hope they've taken some PS4 UI and features into account for the new OS so we can bin this depressing PS5 UI.
@NoCode23 Absolutely. Why won't Sony allow use of the DS4 in PS5 games? 'Cos they can fleece you for another controller when the official ones start to pull off centre (mine just went hard left!) The DS4s also don't creak like some cheap plastic tat (both my DS5s creak and groan) and the DS4s are just so much nicer to hold.
As for this controller? Overpriced DS3 SixAxis by the looks of it?
@get2sammyb Is the PS4 officially dead? Never saw a message from Sony saying that it had ceased production. It's days were numbered after the removal of the Pro but then again that would've just stolen sales from the overpriced and under-titled PS5.
I'd be interested to now how many PS4s were manufactured as it must've cleared the 120 m units boundary by now.
Whilst I have little love for the current incarnation of $ony, I can totally appreciate the joy that the old consoles produced in people having owned all of them myself.
PS2 was and still is an icon. My PS4 Pro still uses the PS2 retro theme almost all the year round.
Even if the Switch clears the 160.x million units, the PS2 will remain the best selling HOME console of all time as all those Switch Lites don't count.
Wanted to play Avowed. Can I find it on disc? No, so had to buy it at sale price from the PS Store which really grated with me. Anything I can buy physically, I will continue to do so.
@themightyant Strangely Sony, during the Jimbo Ryan era, expected the PS5 to sell about 108 million units. Could Ryan have actually been right about something? If these ridiculous prices are maintained, I can't see it clearing much above that. It'll have to settle for being the 3rd best selling Sony console.
@BecauseBecause It's a fair point. I searched for Avowed on disc but it doesn't seem to exist even though MS/Xbox Studios put Starfield out on physical? I still think most consumers would be better off buying a disc version (if they have the option) as often the price is much lower than the Store price after only a few weeks which makes no sense when you take into account the mastering, case & inlay production and distribution.
No sale? Well, just put the title you're interested in on Amazon/Game Collection/ShopTo and buy a disc at a "sale" price.
So often Sony's Store "sale" prices are an insult. Bring back the PS4 era....
Loved, and spent many hours playing Oblivion and Fallout 3. Never gelled with Skyrim and had a difficult time getting into Fallout 4 but eventually, I 'got it' and played it for months on end. I've avoided the Oblivion remaster due to the crippling bug reports - I mean it plays WORSE than the PS3 version? I'd be temped to play Starfield - shame there's no PS demo.
The Skywalker Saga should have been brilliant but turned out to be a total letdown with boring, directionless gameplay - difficult to imagine after all the fun of the PS2-PSP-PS3 eras and even the Vita games were fun despite the 3DS dragging them down a tad..
90% of my collection is physical. This can only increase.
That said, I thought all digital only games had to connect to the interweb to validate (physical uses the disc as the key)?
There was an issue a little while ago where the digital copy of Fallout 4 wouldn't start but the disc version was fine.
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Re: Control Resonant Is Yet Another September 2026 Release, New Trailer Confirms
Hoping this is going to be good - has a lot to live up to as a sequel to one of my fave PS4 games of all time!
Re: Lara Croft Battles Dinosaurs in New $60 PS5 Tomb Raider Next Year
@THEBrew Yep, still got that on my PSP!
This is the 2nd reboot - or is it the 3rd now with the remasters? I've lost count!
Never gelled with the 'survivor' trilogy (Lara should be sassy not whiny!) but loved TR1 & 2 on the PS1.
Re: Poll: Are You Happy with Your PS Plus Essential Games for June 2026?
@Cyphyxia Do you need PS+ for Diablo 4? I though that was only for online gaming but solo/couch co-op are OK without?
Re: PS Plus Essential, Extra Games for June 2026 Announced
All I can think of is "meh". None of these float my boat.
Re: PlayStation Days of Play Sales Start Tomorrow with Physical and PS Store Offers
1) Check prices on "sale".
2) Go and buy cheaper on disc (if available) from A. N. Other online retailer.
3) If not, add funds using vouchers from ShopTo and purchase from Store.
Sorted.
Re: Current PS Plus Subscribers Screwed Again by Days of Play Discounts
Went to cancel, got offer for £45 (on the Sony website) for a year of Essential.
To be honest, the only thing I'd miss is cloud saves, but that's only due to Sony being too stingy to allow USB backups of PS5 game saves.
Re: LittleBigPlanet Dev's Next PS5 Game Could Have Open World Aspects
@Balaam_ It wasn't Media Molecule's decision to shut down the LBP servers, it was Sony's infrastructure incompetence.
In fact, only a few months before Sony shut the servers down, MM uploaded all their LBP textures, objects and so on so the community could use them.
Re: Is PS3 Emulation Possible on PS5? Tech Experts Find Fascinating Results
"the PS6 may be the console with enough CPU power to properly cope with PS3 emulation"
Isn't that what we've been saying for years? Those (rather clever) distributed programming SPUs were a pig to code but the results were very good indeed when used correctly.
Re: Now It's Raised the Price, PlayStation Wants Your Thoughts on PS Plus
£60 for a years worth of Essential is just too much. I was all on for cancelling and when I got to the "are you sure?" screen, I was offered the same thing but for £45! That is a more reasonable price for that level of service (£40 would've been better!)
The fact that Sony have locked game save backups behind the subscription tiers is the really annoying part - if you can allow PS4 saves to be backed up to a USB stick, they can also do it for the PS5 but they choose not to due to $$$$s.
Re: Amid Xbox Exclusives Uncertainty, RPG Fable Recommits to PS5
Any game that's already underway for PS5, it would be silly to pull the release (that said, Starfield was due on both platforms simultaneously).
As for the NextBox? Well, if M$ have any brain cells left, they'll be exclusives to Project Helix.
Re: 'Every Detail Matters': Sony Drops New Promo for $900 PS5 Pro
@Gazray If the base consoles start to struggle, don't expect any PS5 Pro exclusives.
Same as happened with the PS4 Pro - a console that could run Cyberpunk 2077 rather well by all accounts but the game was still broken on the base 4 and it was dropped.
If the base PS5 starts struggling, the PS6 will be the only long term answer.
My disc fatty base unit cost me just £344 from Music Magpie so I think that'll see me through to the next gen.
Re: 'PS5 Is for the Payers': Just 18% Think PS Plus Essential Is Good Value for Money in 2026
I only sub to Essential as I wanted to 1) back up some game saves and 2) play occasional bursts of ESO.
1) Backing up game saves shouldn't be locked behind a cloud paywall! Sony obviously took the PS4's save to USB code over to the PS5's OS but then couldn't be arsed to expand that to cover PS5 saves? More likely the money grabbing bar-stewards thought of another way to rinse a bit more cash out of gamers.
2) ESO doesn't charge for on-line but I have to sub to PS+ so I can play a game I bought?
I was going to let mine lapse until I went to cancel the auto renewal and got an offer (on the Sony website) in the "Are you sure you want to cancel?" screen for one year of Essential for £45.
Re: PS5 Fans Vote Jak & Daxter As Their Most Wanted PlayStation Revival
@LowDefAl That's true but Japan Studio were publisher and technical resource for Clap Hanz when they were making the Everybody's Golf series on PSP, PS2, PS3 and PS4.
Closing them caused Clap Hanz problems - that's why I said that there's some bad blood. Otherwise, why hasn't Sony reached out to them to bring the Clap Hanz Golf (Apple Arcade) or Easy Come, Easy Golf (Switch) to the Playstation? And as for that Namco Bandai garbage, well....
Re: Xbox Fans Flock to Online Suggestions Box to Tell Microsoft to Keep Games Off PS5
Had to happen - otherwise what is the point in buying an Xbox? Seemed like a stupid, if short-term profitable, decision.
Re: PS5 Fans Vote Jak & Daxter As Their Most Wanted PlayStation Revival
@get2sammyb Don't feel too bad for Clap Hanz, Sammy. After Sony shafted them with the closure of Japan Studio, they've moved into mobile and Switch-land with the VERY familiar 'Easy Come, Easy Golf'.
There's clearly some bad blood between Clap Hanz and Sony, which lead to the putrid turd that plopped out from Namco Bandai which had the audacity to try and clam it was a legitimate entry in the Everybody's Golf franchise!
Personally I'd like to see a Motorstorm reboot but with Evolution killed off, I just can't see it happening.
Re: LEGO Batman: Legacy of the Dark Knight (PS5) - Brick Gaming at Its Joyful Best
Hope they've really improved on the open world use. That was one of the biggest Achilles' heels for the PS4/PS5 releases - to the extent that the Vita versions were overall better as you didn't have to keep going through it to get to the next level.
Re: These 24+ New PS5 and PS Plus Games Are Coming Out Next Week (18th-24th May)
Myst and Riven look like possible purchases but I'm quite liking the look of Atomic Owl!
Re: Poll: Would You Buy an inFAMOUS Collection for PS5?
So much good stuff still locked to the PS3 - from LBP 1 & 2 to ModNation Racers to Motorstorm. Good job our old PS3 Slim is still working fine.
Re: Crimson Desert's Massive Success Is Down to the US, Europe, and Strong Console Sales
Have they added the character generator yet or it still just a PC hack/mod?
Re: This New PS5 Controller May Solve DualSense's Stick Drift Issues, But It Comes with a $220 Cost
@NoCode23 Is it possible? Yes. Will they do it? No, as every broken DS5 is another sale! Ka-ching!
Re: Play These 8 PS Plus Games Before They Leave Next Week
@For-Kier Not sure about the PS5 version but I played through Control from beginning to end on my old PS4 Pro and enjoyed every minute of it.
Re: PS5, PS4 Racer LEGO 2K Drive Is Getting Bricked: PS Store Removal and Online Server Shutdown
@TrollOfWar About to say the same thing - it was included in PS Plus Essential a year or two ago. I never bought it but I have it in my library. We bought a copy for my son and he still boots it up from time to time.
Re: First The Last of Us Season 3 Set Photos Surface, But Does Anyone Still Care?
Sounds like this is going to die quite quickly, following in the ill-fated footsteps of The Witcher.
Just waiting to see if Fallout also falls victim to the same problems.
Re: Saros PS5 Sales Estimates at 300k, Selling Slower Than Returnal on a Bigger Install Base
The early PS5 market was filled by (somewhat rabid) people who would buy anything with the dreary black on while label to justify the console's existence so unsurprising that one of the first titles sold quite a few.
Been a fan of Housemarque's earlier stuff (as far back as Super Stardust on the Amiga) but since then it seems to have become a bit 'meh' for almost twice the price.
Re: What Do You Want from a May 2026 State of Play Showcase?
Would love an update from Media Molecule on what they're up to - PS5 has been missing their creative input.
Probably be interested to see what the Tomb Raider (3rd remake?) will look like.
And yes, I'd like a PS6 update - hope they've taken some PS4 UI and features into account for the new OS so we can bin this depressing PS5 UI.
Re: This New PS5 Controller May Solve DualSense's Stick Drift Issues, But It Comes with a $220 Cost
@NoCode23 Absolutely. Why won't Sony allow use of the DS4 in PS5 games? 'Cos they can fleece you for another controller when the official ones start to pull off centre (mine just went hard left!) The DS4s also don't creak like some cheap plastic tat (both my DS5s creak and groan) and the DS4s are just so much nicer to hold.
As for this controller? Overpriced DS3 SixAxis by the looks of it?
Re: PS5 Boss Says He's Seen the Future of Gaming, and It's 'Unbelievably Positive'
'Unbelievably Positive'??? Only thing that is positive is $ony's bank balance!
Let's see what he thinks when the next few months sales figures for the Tub o' Lard are out....
Re: How Rockstar Squeezed a Whole City into Your PS2
Tight, optimised C++ code > AI slop.
Just look at some old games which ran in about 48K bytes (C and assembler) which now run an about 4GB RAM.
Re: Free Uncharted 4 Theme and Avatars Adventure to PS5, But You'll Need These Codes
@Bob_Tempura Was watching that only the other day. So many great Arnie one-liners!
Re: 'Your Proposal Is Neither Credible Nor Attractive': eBay Rejects GameStop's 'Unsolicited' Acquisition
I think they should've just replied with "HA, HA, HA, HA, HA!!"
Re: PS2 May Survive the Switch's Assault on Gaming History
@get2sammyb Is the PS4 officially dead? Never saw a message from Sony saying that it had ceased production. It's days were numbered after the removal of the Pro but then again that would've just stolen sales from the overpriced and under-titled PS5.
I'd be interested to now how many PS4s were manufactured as it must've cleared the 120 m units boundary by now.
Whilst I have little love for the current incarnation of $ony, I can totally appreciate the joy that the old consoles produced in people having owned all of them myself.
PS2 was and still is an icon. My PS4 Pro still uses the PS2 retro theme almost all the year round.
Even if the Switch clears the 160.x million units, the PS2 will remain the best selling HOME console of all time as all those Switch Lites don't count.
Re: Mouse: P.I. For Hire Is an Official Indie Hit, Sells Better Than Expected
Waiting for the physical release in July for me.
Re: Sony Wants to Turn Your PS5 Gameplay into Highlight Reels - Using AI
As said by @Number09, Sony you can shove your planet killing AI up your @rse - thank you.
Re: Physical Game Fans, Beware: Digital Downloads Hit an Astonishing 85% on PS5, PS4 Last Quarter
Wanted to play Avowed. Can I find it on disc? No, so had to buy it at sale price from the PS Store which really grated with me.
Anything I can buy physically, I will continue to do so.
Re: PlayStation Urges PS4 Players to Upgrade to PS5 for GTA 6
Sony: "C'mon PS4 users! Stop using your perfectly good enough console and buy our now even more ridiculously overpriced tat!"
Small print: GTA6 will only run decently on a PS5 Pro, now available for the bargain price of just £1000 including a copy of the game!
Re: PS6 Release Date and Price Not Decided Yet, Says Sony
For all those with a PS5 Pro, I'd just say this; if the PS5 base can't cut it, the Pro will never get a stand-alone release.
Same situation as it was with the PS4 Pro. - even though that could run Cyberpunk 2077, the base PS4 couldn't and the release got pulled.
Re: Sony Ships 93.7 Million PS5 Consoles, But Recent Sales Down by Almost 50%
@themightyant Strangely Sony, during the Jimbo Ryan era, expected the PS5 to sell about 108 million units. Could Ryan have actually been right about something?
If these ridiculous prices are maintained, I can't see it clearing much above that. It'll have to settle for being the 3rd best selling Sony console.
Re: PS Store Deals Tab Returns, Confirms Next Sale for 13th May
@BecauseBecause It's a fair point. I searched for Avowed on disc but it doesn't seem to exist even though MS/Xbox Studios put Starfield out on physical?
I still think most consumers would be better off buying a disc version (if they have the option) as often the price is much lower than the Store price after only a few weeks which makes no sense when you take into account the mastering, case & inlay production and distribution.
Re: 'NTE Is Built on Human Creativity': Dev to Rework Generative AI Assets in PS5 Open World
"Someone else's copyrighted material shapes this AI slop" would be more accurate.
Re: PS Store's Deals Section Missing as PS5 Breaks Its Streak of Constant Sales
No sale? Well, just put the title you're interested in on Amazon/Game Collection/ShopTo and buy a disc at a "sale" price.
So often Sony's Store "sale" prices are an insult. Bring back the PS4 era....
Re: An Unannounced Worms Game Has Seemingly Leaked, and It Looks Like It's Returning to 3D
Worms sucks in 3D - the 2D classic layout is still by far the best, like Worms 2: Armageddon on the PS3.
Re: Sony's Not Pulling the Plug on Horizon Hunters Gathering, New PS5 and PC Beta Test Announced
Never cared for Horizon - so not bothered for this.
Re: Lifelong Bethesda Fan Finally Answers: Does Starfield Actually Suck?
Loved, and spent many hours playing Oblivion and Fallout 3. Never gelled with Skyrim and had a difficult time getting into Fallout 4 but eventually, I 'got it' and played it for months on end. I've avoided the Oblivion remaster due to the crippling bug reports - I mean it plays WORSE than the PS3 version?
I'd be temped to play Starfield - shame there's no PS demo.
Re: Now Even Refurbished PS5 Consoles Cost a Fortune
Glad I got my mint 2nd hand disc fatty for £344 (Music Magpie) at the end of 2024.
If it dies, I'll just drop back to my SSD PS4 Pro until the PS6 pops up next year. Better controllers anyway...
Re: 'Our Job Is to Charge Way, Way, Way Less of the Value': GTA 6 Unlikely to Cost $100+ on PS5
I can see this costing £80 but I do wonder how the base 5 will cope.
Wonder how much the inevitable PS6 remaster will cost?
Re: No Need to Brick It, LEGO Batman Primed for PS5 Release as It Goes Gold
Question is: will it be any fun?
The Skywalker Saga should have been brilliant but turned out to be a total letdown with boring, directionless gameplay - difficult to imagine after all the fun of the PS2-PSP-PS3 eras and even the Vita games were fun despite the 3DS dragging them down a tad..
Re: Sony's MLB The Show Goes Free-to-Play on Mobile, and It's Gonna Be Huge
Yay, rounders anyone?
San Diego Studio could be working on so many other more interesting IPs.
Re: Atomfall Joins the Ranks of The Last of Us and Fallout with Its Own TV Series Adaptation
In my backlog and I really must get round to playing it...
Re: Is Starfield's Crashing Finally Fixed on PS5?
@Yor-sama No, peak Bethesda is where the NPC doesn’t even appear!
Re: PS5 Confirmed to Be Affected by Game Expiry Issue, Sony Support Sends Mixed Messages on DRM
90% of my collection is physical. This can only increase.
That said, I thought all digital only games had to connect to the interweb to validate (physical uses the disc as the key)?
There was an issue a little while ago where the digital copy of Fallout 4 wouldn't start but the disc version was fine.