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I still think it's tight of Sony to not allow USB saves for PS5 games but are still fine with the PS4 saves (on PS4 or PS5).
Only tend to use PS+ for game saves and occasional drops into Nirn on ESO.

Be interested to know if the PS4 version suffers from the same problem?
He seems to have tested Switch on Switch 2 and PS4 on PS5 but not natively?

"Meanwhile, in the United States, average video game spending between those aged 18 and 24 has plunged by as much as 25%."

Nothing to do with those £70-90 games then?

"Be Sure to Download <insert game name here> Day One Patch"

Isn't that the same for every new game these days?

@blecch Baldur''s Gate: Dark Alliance 1 & 2 have been remastered for the PS4 already so no need for those.
What we need is Champions of Norrath 1 & 2.

Bought Skyrim & Fallout 4 GOTY edition in a £17 sale bundle off the PS Store for the PS4 many years ago now. The main game is great fun, the expansions less so. Not much point going for the Anniversary version when all it'll be adding is the Creation Club tat.

Took me quite a while to get into Fallout 4 but eventually, I was hooked. Even played through each of the possible endings. Sometimes I go for a wander in the wasteland and find a location that I'd missed before!
The PS5 version seems a little more unstable than the PS4 version (which was far from perfect!) but the 60(ish) fps patch was welcome.

@RoomWithaMoose @Questionable_Duck It was Jim Ryan as he waltzed out of the door leaving us in the live service mess that we're still in now.

I seem to remember it had something to do with the serial number ranges which means that the PS2 had over 160 million units out there.
Just because Sony can't be bothered to count, doesn't mean that people aren't still buying them. Same situation for the PS4, which stopped being counted at 117.5m but has most likely cleared well over 120m units.

I've still got my PS3 Slim after the fatty died after 5.5 years of reliable service with the YLOD. Tried a Super Slim but that was just nasty in every way so I tracked down a 2503 series Slim which is supposed the best, post the original glossy fatty.

@JbumiSandra Should've just bunged a Crucial/Samsung 1TB SSD inside for £40. Makes a big difference to the PS4 Pro (SATA 3) and, I'm led to believe, a reasonable upgrade in the standard (SATA 2).

@Oram77 The disc PS5 launched at £450 before Fony bunged an extra £30 on it for "exchange rate purposes". Despite rates levelling off, we've never had that £30 reduced again.

@nomither6 I still miss having access to a web=browser on the Tub o' Lard. Isn't the best thing in the world on the 4 but it was useful for game hints.

Anyway, PS5 getting "messages and usability on some screens" usually means PS4 update incoming too.

Thing is, in my experience, Genshin Impact has always been a badly optimised POS on the PS4 with fans howling away on a non-visually taxing game so moving to the PS5 just means they can shove more horsepower at it to overcome their iffy coding.

Perhaps SEGA are on to something - make PS4 versions where the hardware allows - but don't start blaming the PS4 hardware when badly optimised code doesn't run well, regardless of the platform..

We've seen some devious ways of getting people to 'upgrade' - I'd still be using my old Sony XA2 phone if I hadn't been sure if it could or couldn't use 4G Calling/VoLTE (hardware = yes, carrier = ???)
Microsoft cause us to upgrade perfectly good hardware to run a worse version of Windows 10 due to some CPU flags in 11. PS5 has very little pull over it's predecessor apart from some 'exclusive' games and if they aren't your bag, why bother?

Not sure what Sony can do that will justify the PS6 at the moment.

Of all the people I know, a few have 4K TVs and a few have 1080p TVs. None of them have 120Hz or 8K displays as there is no broadcasted content which can make use of such a device.

As is often the case, Sony need to concentrate of releasing games that people want to play and are FUN.
I mean, not just 3rd person adventure games (they have their place) but what happened to all the creative stuff that they used to put out? LBP, ModNation Racers and so on have all been abandoned by the wayside. The PS5 has been pretty much a desert in terms of different types of games so perhaps it's time to reach out to those 1st party and 3rd party studios to see what they can offer?
Unfortunately that would involve a Layden-type and we just seem to have soulless suits at the moment.

Just buy an A1 used PS5 (there are so many around!) from Sony or Music Magpie or similar and save yourself £100 or so...

PS5's UI still sucks compared with its predecessor.

If you have the disc, chances are you can download patches, etc, even if it gets de-listed (e.g. Driveclub)

The transition to the PS6 will be difficult.
Sure, the more rabid PS owners will rush out and buy one as soon as it's available (the same people who HAD to have a PS5 even though the scalper prices were so high). However, I think the main problem will be that the more rational people will hang fire given the PS5 launch and the lack of killer titles from launch.
The other problem is Sony's complete lack of engagement with the community. Post-Layden we've had little or totally inappropriate comments from Jim Ryan and his mini-me (Hulst).
I bought an original PS, PS2, PS3 & PS4 because there were games I wanted to play on them. I bought a PS5 on a case of FOMO and could've quite happily not bothered. I, for one, will be waiting a long time until I get a PS6.

Might turn the air blue if it develops random drifting after a short while...

@LiamCroft My apologies - that must've slipped out unannounced at some point then!

@LiamCroft I don't think Goat Simulator 3 ever hit the PS4, did it? Not that it's a great tragedy that it didn't.

I remember Microsoft shooting themselves in the foot over the XBone launch which gave a very relieved Sony a free shot at market dominance again with the PS4.
But current Xbox? That's a whole different level of stupidity...

Unfortunately we needed Xbox to be present in some meaningful way to keep Sony in check so I'm concerned about no competition - perhaps SEGA could give it another go?

@EK42 SEGA said recently that if a game can run on the older hardware then why not?
Probably 40 milltion active PS4s out there is the reason why Sonic Racing: Crossworlds exists on the PS4.

It needs an internet connection to download all the patches (current & future) to get a PS3 game up and limping on the PS5.

The PS3 game and all its expansions got distributed on one 50GB disc and given that the PS5 has a 100GB high-def blue-ray drive, why couldn't it have all the data on it?

Sony's stories getting samey? Well, given the amount of flippin' remasters they keep green lighting when they have so many 'dead' IPs to call on, the stories are going to be same-y 'cos it's a slightly shinier version of a game I've already enjoyed on a PS3/PS4 Pro.

Their 1st party adventure games in the past have been brilliant - not that we've seen much from those studios over the last 2 years.

@Ricky-Spanish The original CUH-7000 series PS4 Pro consoles could get very loud. The 1st revision (CUH-7100) was quieter but the best one is the end-of-the-line CUH-7200 series which were much quieter - keep an eye out for ones in the RDR2 or CoD:MW packaging as these are the 7200 series.

My 7200 is now 6 years old and it still barely makes a noise - when it does kick its fans up it's not as distracting. If needs be, as some of these machines have had a LOT of use over a LOT of years, your local PC shop will be able to apply new thermal paste and one of the latest Delta/Nidec fans to create an eerily quiet one for about £50.
Also, if you get a Pro, replace the internal HDD with a Samsung/Crucial SSD and gain the full benefit of the SATA3 6GB/s interface.

I'd happily do without any subscription apart from a) my odd foray into ESO and b) save game backups which the PS4 has available on a USB stick but not the PS5 game saves (oddly the PS4 saves to local backup are still allowed on The Tub o' Lard).

"security fixes"

Expect incoming PS4 update too then.

Edit: and there it is - 13.02 for PS4

I wonder what state it will be in when it gets released physically?

Given that the full game was on one PS3 GOTY blu-ray and the fatty 5 can read twice as much as that and read data-compressed files so why wouldn't it be one disc? That said, it's going to need to download a series of patches.

Sony effectively shafted Clap Hanz when they killed off Japan Studio so they went off to create a mobile game for Apple Arcade and then that was ported to the Switch under the "Easy Come, Easy Golf" game.
If you want to blame anyone, that lies purely at the door of Sony.

Probably cheaper to make and priced the same just so Sony can up their profits a little bit more...?

Very profitable and they keep selling them for ever increasing prices when the cost of a console has come down (Sony said that the PS5 slim would be cheaper to produce than the original fatties).
When it's cleared over 120m units and overtaken the PS4, then fair enough. Until then, no it isn't. And the PS2 says 'hi' from the top of an unassailable mountain.

Don't think Goat Simulator 3 ever got released for the PS4 - not that it's a problem as it seems far less fun than the chaotic original.

Alan Wake 2 though - that's a nice to have!

The PS4 Pro had a point - 4K displays and improved 1080p.

I still can't see the point of the, frankly overpriced, PS5 Pro unless it was Sony admitting that the original PS5 wasn't up to snuff?

So, Sony want £435 for a Slim with disc drive or £340 for one without.

Thing is, Argos are selling the add-on disc drives for £70 bringing the digital+disc version to £410 so who in their right mind would buy the bundle with the disc drive for an extra £25?

The update doesn't seem to do much as expected. They say some messages have changed (doesn't say which ones) but I suspect it's security loophole fixes and perhaps updating its Blu-ray key as well.

The point is there are TONNES of used PS5 consoles out there - fatties, slims and Pros (a lot of them) - probably due to people upgrading to a Pro (and in some cases selling them again) so why bother buying new when you can get a used one with at least as good a warranty as the Sony original?

My console came from Music Magpie in their end of year Black Friday-esque deals and was described as Very Good condition but when it arrived, there wasn't a mark on it and the extra Seagate Firecuda 1TB was a distinct bonus.

Still got my PS4 Pro 72xx series with 1TB internal SSD under the TV.
If anything, it seems about as quiet as the PS5 for the majority of games. And I still prefer the DS4 on looks and ergonomics.

Bought a 2nd hand, mint condition disc-drive fatty for £344 with a year's warranty
Came with a 1TB hard drive expansion that someone must've forgotten to take out. Seems better value to me!

It was a fail for me as soon as I realised there was no split screen couch multiplayer.

@DualWielding In order to use your DS5 on a different console (say, a friend's one) you have to unregister it from the your console and then pair it on the other console which is a right royal pain in the rear. Hopefully it'll make it work like the PS4 where you just plug the controller in and press the PS button?

Looks like a cross between TrackMania Turbo and Motorstorm, so I'm interested!
Interesting to see it's coming out on the old-stager too...

@shonenjump86 I'm not sure if there was some bad blood between Sony and Clap Hanz after the dissolving of Japan Studio.

Either way, don't bother with Everybody's Golf, at least yet. It is terrible with weird characters and badly lagging gameplay. I'd stick with "Easy Come, Easy Golf" which is a much superior product and much closer to actual Everybody's Golf.

As with all PlayStations ever since, I always wait for a year or so after launch for all the teething troubles to get ironed out by early adopters.
Traded it in eventually at my local GAME store when the GT3 pack for the PS2 arrived. The PS1 was great until the PS2 arrived and that really was the GOAT!

Even the PS Store still has the PS4 version listed!?!?

@dodgykebaab I always thought that the PS4 disc drive was missing a laser, same as the 5? Is that not the case?

If I was being cynical, I'd suggest that New Sony won't allow backwards compatibility as they want to resell you the games you already own rather than allowing you to use your disc.

Strange that the PS3 is still the only PS with a CD, DVD & Blu-ray compatible drive.

Well, I've played numerous Everybody's Golf games, including the PSP and Vita versions, I can honestly say this is the worst one of the lot.
I'd rather be playing EG2 on the PSP or "Easy Come, Easy Golf" on the Switch because they're much better than this travesty. I hope a LOT of improvements happen - otherwise it'll be a trade-in at CEX.

I'll reserve judgement until I see the trailer but having paid actual money to see the last Indiana Jones film at the cinema, I'm not exactly brimming with confidence.

Hope Sophie goes more Angelina than Alicia - proper, old school, sassy Tomb Raider.

"Easy Come Easy Golf on the Switch is VERY Everybody's Golf, even if it's just a port of Apple Arcade Clap Hanz Golf (with physical controls).

I hope this will get several patches to improve a lot of the negatives about frame rate. If all else fails I've still got Everybody's Golf 2 on the PSP!

The more Sony keep increasing the price of the PS5, the more chance we have of the PS4 hanging in there until 2026 and beyond. There is no reason for the PS5 to be increasing in price at this time in its lifecycle (apart from corporate greed).

The PS6 will launch and still the trusty PS4 old-stager will be getting releases.

I still find it weird that the PSP could be connected to a TV (PSP 2000 onwards via a component cable) but the Vita didn't feature a video out port.

I bought the PS, PS2, PS3 and PS4 about a year after they'd been out because I wanted to play some of the games that had appeared.
I bought the PS5 on a case of FOMO and to be honest, I could have just left it at the PS4 Pro.
The never-ending stream on remasters/remakes and other such tiresome titles eventually coming out just leaves me confused - the PS3->PS4 remasters were needed as the architecture was totally different but PS4>PS5 is just plain stupid.
By all means patch an extra frame rate boost in there but remastering a game which in some cases looks worse than the original when BC is available is causing me to see if I can be bothered to 'upgrade' to the next PlayStation.