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@HonestHick You read the article and commented. So, You do care.

@Hylian-Likely live service games exists not because suits force them upon people. but because they are unfortunately incredible popular among people. There are thousands of games to play on all platforms. Nevertheless the majority of the people just play fortnite, gta online, cod warzone, overwatch, etc. . If people would stop spending on live service games. These games would disappear.

I played unity many years after the release on ps4, and really liked it. Sure it was not perfect, but I really liked their creation of Paris.

I played the server slam, and really liked what I played. I do not play much non VR games. So, I will most likely give it a pass, Unless of course a VR mode was announced. But I really liked what I played. Anyway best wishes to a reasonably successful launch.

Currently the only way to play playstation games in vr (besides gt7), is via mod on pc. If then sony uses the "saved" resources to instead add VR modes to some of the games on ps5 I would be more than happy.

I played a couple of mostly very short rounds but just solo. I agree with Aeron, that it looks gorgeous. For me the menus were fine, but I am not saying that everything is and was clear from the very beginning. Most of the rounds I played, had been different enough and I enjoyed what I plaued. I think the setting is really compelling and I am wondering whether there will be more story telling in some form in the full game. It certainly piqued my interest. But then I am not really a multiplayer person (and I suppose the game really shines when playing in a team), I lack the skills for such games, and mostly play VR. But if it would get a VR mode I would definitely try the full game.

There are very few things one "must" own if any. But best played on psvr2: re4 remake, re village, gt7, nms, hitman. The awesome vr game synapse is only playable on psvr2. Then there are many great multi platform vr games, which often play as good or better than on a high end pc. In that sens "must own" is not so wrong.

Maybe some people here have some internal information. To me it just seems that people complain about everything and are unhappy with everything.

Does somebody know what bluepoint really wanted to do ? And does somebody know that Ryan and Hulst forced BluePoint to do some multiplayer game ? The only thing I remember is that bluepoint wanted to do their own thing rather than just remaking games. Maybe BluePoint+Sony overestimated their skills and they just lacked the skill set to do what they wanted to do. Maybe bluepoint really wanted to do a multiplayer game ?

But let's blame everything on Hulst and ignore that the gaming industry stopped growing, that most people just play fortnite, or gta online. Let's ignore that hardly anybody plays any of the gorgeous indie games and just asks for more skyrim or other installments of popular IPs. But let's complain about that there are too many remakes, but bluepoint should just have made another remake anyways, that there are too many horizon games, and that it is disaster that horizon 3 will not come anytime soon because of the multiplayer spin off. Let's complain about Sony just making multiplayer games and rave about arc raiders or buy another copy of gta5 to play gta online. Lets complain about the measly weak 10TF ps5 and ***** on the ps5pro that nobody asked for. Let's complain about the bad performance of some gorgeous looking games and complain about the possible release of the ps6, because nobody wants it.

I just see a lot of people complaining about everything, and ignoring all the good things. PS5's design may not appeal, but otherwise it is a big step up from ps4. psvr2 is a big step up from psvr1. But instead of innovations people want VR rather to disappear, for some strange reason. Globally the graphical fidelity of the majority of the modern games is through the roofs. There are more great games releasing constantly anybody could play, but most of them are ignored, likely because people have difficulties to decide between all the offerings and just fall back to what they know: fortnite etc.

I think it looks great, whether it also plays as good as the main Horizon games is hard to tell from the trailer. But, obviously it is very different in tone. There original games are kind of serious, where this seems more humorous. So, it may appeal to a rather different audience, and may even differentiate itself from the more serious MP games including, I suppose, even Monster Hunter. But, this is fine, not every games needs to be for everybody. Concerning myself, I really liked the original Horizon games. It seems that the gameplay elements which made those games great are also present here, but I am not really into multi player games, and I presumably prefer the tone of the originals.

I liked the watch dogs series and I may have liked legions better than the second installment. But I agree with others that the first one was the best despite its rather implausible main protagonist.

It cannot be the ultimate Horror game without a VR mode ...

I finally picked up Dreams of Another on psvr2. I was intrigued by the game, when it was announced, but I was not sure that I would like it enough for the full price. The current sale was convincing enough, and I played maybe 1-2 hours. Based on what I played so far, I think that it is an extraordinary game! I really like the rendering technique, the writing, the voice acting and the music. Certainly this is not for everybody, and the VR version may not be for people without relatively strong VR legs.

@TheFakulty video games, in general, are a waste of precious time. You should try to make the world a better place instead.

Personally, I think the world, the characters, the effects look very intriguing, and the audio design in the trailers is fantastic. It also seems that people who played the later iterations have been quite happy without what they have played. Unfortunately, it has this sticker "sony-now-makes-only-live-service-games" otherwise people would be less negative about it and give it a fair judgement.

If it had a VR mode, I certainly would give it a shot. Without a psvr2 mode, I am not so sure. I am not really into mutliplayer shooters and mostly play VR games.

Likely it will not matter to the developer, but without a VR mode for the playstation version (psvr2), Ace combat 8 it will sell one copy less.

It is certainly good if the game selection is more curated. And to keep trophies meaningful, if the criteria to obtain trophies are to some degree consistent. So, this sounds like a welcome action.

On the other hand "censorship" is only good if "every" consumer is happy with the applied criteria. Thus, it would be good to know what criteria Sony applied to remove these games. So, hopefully pushsquare gets a reply.

I got "Resist for psvr2 on sale. Although I have not mastered the swinging mechanics yet, the swinging feels amazing. Graphics-wise not a revolution, but absolutely fine.Haven't played enough to say more.

Then, I started to play Hitman again on psvr2, but now the freelancer mode. So far, I absolutely suck, and never managed to successfully finish a mission triplet. I always got spotted before I managed to identify the target among the 4 suspects, and then hell broke loose. Still a fantastic VR game.

@playstation1995 I did not mange to get into far cry5 I thought the setting was interesting,, but i did not enjoy playing it.I did like far cry4 and thought that far cry 6 was excellent. Maybe, I should give it another shot ? Maybe once a VR version comes along ...

I finished Ghost Town" on Psvr2. Partially, excellent. I liked the voice acting, the environments are well crafted, greate sound design. Though, the puzzles are not the most inventive ones, and I cannot say that I was super interested in the story. Overall very enjoyable.

Just watched a recent video about marathon. It seemed to me that the visuals have been reworked quite a bit and the world they have build looks quite interesting to me. If it was getting a VR mode, I certainly would try it (,even though I likely would not survive for more than 1min).

Finished Pirates VR Jolly Roger on Psvr2, which is an okay game sometimes also also quite good. Certainly fine for the sale price i got it for. I checked out the new tracks in GT7 on Psvr2, and played much longer than I wanted. What a great game GT7 is.

And maybe I will check out Ghost Town on Psvr2, which I did not do in the end the last week-end.

The 3 VR missions in Ace combat 7 are fantastic. Would really like to play a full ace combat game in VR !

Cool to see these projects which seem to come from nowhere. Also this game Automa scheduled for 2026 looks quite promising.

I finished Pools on Psvr2, Great visual and acoustic experience! Then I started Pirates VR: Jolly Roger on Psvr2, which seems promising but it just lacks this little bit of extra budget, and in my book is an okay game, certainly for the sale price I got it for.

I may check out the new Gt7 tracks on psvr2, try thief vr or ghost town, or leave those for later, and try the banjo-Kazooie dreams in dreams (too sad that dreams was not ported to ps5 and psvr2).

Can this be played in VR on psvr1 ?

Such a shame that not more players engaged with dreams, and that sony shutdown dreams just before the ps5 and psvr2 port was done ...

I finished Of Lies and Rain on i*Psvr2*. Overall really enjoyed the game. But without reading all the journal entries and many of the reports one would miss most of the story.

Then I started Pools on Psvr2. Not much of a game but great to walk (and slide) through these environments. I wish it had more levels!

And I am still playing Ghost of Tsushima ... for another couple of months at this rate.

Returnal is an unforgivable omission. I also would agree that Final Fantasy 16 belongs on that list. For people with psvr2 I would place Re Village just above Re4 just because of the awesome sequences in the castle. I would also argue that GT7 belongs on this list for people with psvr2,

@Perturbator No I never played half life alyx. Though, I suspect the comparison between that and Of Lies and Rain will not go very much further beyond the gravity gloves, and a slightly more advanced interactivity or physicality of the world. I think one gets a good idea about what the game is and how it plays when playing the demo. There is enough variety, that the demo does not give away the entire game.

I personally think it is a great game with a great story. Not without its flaws. For some people it may be too slow and may lack a true challenge. And one misses most of the story if one does not read the journal entries scattered around the world and a good fraction of the reports.

I am very curious about Ghost Town. While I really liked The room VR: A Dark Matter. I hope ghost town has a more ambitious story and larger environments to explore.

@Dogbreath Not sure I relate, none of the games I played this year and have been released this year have been horror games or had baby toy puzzles.

I haven't played ghost town, so I do not know what this game really is about, but I doubt it is a "horror" game. I would assume it is a "spooky" or mysterious game.

@4fold Indeed! All games should have VR versions.

I finally got into Of Lies and Rain. Graphics wise, I think, it is ps3 or early ps4 level of graphics. Though sometimes it looks very good. It is quite interactive, but some of the interactions are a bit janky. The story and voice acting is quite good (the story might even be better than the story in most vr games), and it has a couple of really nice ideas. It is not necessarily the most challenging game. Overall, I quite like it, and I would recommend it to people who like adventure games.

And I played a bit of Tetris effect and Beat saber on Psvr2. Shame that meta stopped to support for the psvr2 version.

After finishing Stray (PS+) far to quickly. I did not quite know what to play. I still haven't finished Ghost of Tsushima, but tried Of Lies and Rain on Psvr2. I really liked the demo, but somehow did not get into it. I stopped just a little bit further after the end of the demo and played some more Reach on "Psvr2, which I actually really enjoy. I am currently trying to find the collectibles, but have a hard time to find even half of them. And I also played some Beat saber and Tetris Effect on Psvr2, which are still awesome games.

@SpecialT GT7 is awesome, but best played on psvr2, just saying.

I played through Reach on psvr2 nearly twice and I am still far from having found all the collectables.

I paused Ghost of Tsushima for a bit to free some time for Stray on ps+ before my subscription runs out (which I may or may not extend immediately). I always wanted to play Stray but somehow never bought it. Great game so far (scenery, story, score). Playing the game I am always thinking how great it would be if one could see the world in VR. Though, I would not have a good idea how a VR adaptation could look like (likely just a 3rd person platformer like Astro Bot Rescue Mission or Max Mustard).

Then, many new psvr2 games just released. But, I have not decided yet which ones to pick up. Likely, I will start with of Lies and Rain, since I really enjoyed the demo.

Will this make their games better or worse ?
Likely worse, since games will be developed for the least common denominator, won't support all the features of a platform they could use, and they won't have the bag of money and/or support from a platform holder to help with the development.

@Striker21 right by increasing the game pass price i.e. instead of paying for online directly You pay for it indirectly ....

good luck with that !

@Striker21 and that is why they will reduce their revenue even further by giving up on online fees ? I am pretty sure they'll find a way to recoup that money.

I finished Reach on Psvr2, much faster than expected. While I share some of the criticism of all the rather negative reviews for this game, overall I really enjoyed it. I think that it looked for most parts rather beautiful in the headset, and I had a really fun time with the game, and that's why I finished it rather quickly.

I restarted Ghost of Tsushima. When I started to play it the first time at some point I did not feel like continuing, maybe because I got too side tracked by all the side quests ? So, far I am enjoying my second attempt. Very beautiful game and great score (it does not have the spectacle and epic-ness of FF16, which I finished recently, So it is a rather big contrast). I am not sure whether I am interested in the story though. At the moment I am just surprised how unlikable most of the characters are which are supposed to help You in Your mission.

The believe in MS/xbox to make gaming cheaper does not seem to know any limits. Didn't they just raise the price of their subscription services ? And didn't they just talk about their lofty goals of a 30% profit margin ? Where will they get the money from if they lower the service fee ? Maybe reduce the cost of developing games by just AI-generating them ?

Anyway somebody has to pay the cost for running cloud service for multiplayer, cloud saves, streaming (electricity, hardware, maintenance). So the MP fee will be just moved to somewhere else e.g. game price or game pass, or the game quality or scope will be reduced.

Good things cost money. If nobody is willing to pay for them they will disappear.

Overall, I enjoyed Reach. The combat does not reach synapse I would say, but it is still fun and adds some new ideas. It might be a bit too easy. The difficulty was fine for me, and I also did not try to crank up the difficulty level.

Not sure what exactly is meant by "duller world", if this means that there are not so many interactive elements scattered around in the underground or that there are few npcs to "talk to" than I would agree. But, I thought, the underground areas looked quite good and had enough variety to not get bored.

I finished Final Fantasy XVI (ps5) much faster than expected. It grabbed me and I could no stop playing. Incredible score, overall an awesome spectacle and a very good story. Sometimes the story is a bit too straight forward but I enjoyed it overall very much. Currently I am wondering whether I should play the DLC or whether that would ruin the impressions the game left on me. Also, the story does not seem to leave any ends that need to be explored further.

Then I picked up Reach on psvr2. I played maybe 1h or a bit more. I have to say that I am bit disappointed. The beginning feels like an old quest2 game, very simple geometry, low res textures, the environments feel very empty and lack atmosphere. Once underground graphics are a bit more interesting, but still feel a bit empty. The parkour mechanics feel okay but also are not ground breaking. I have no idea how it performs on other platforms, but the psvr2 version feels very unoptimised. .Hopefully future patches will at least rectify the technical shortcomings.
[UPDATE] I played a bit more today, only the underground areas, and it looked much better. But at some point some low res textures appeared. So, there is likely something not fully correct with texture LOD, and maybe the eye tracking was a bit off Yesterday, or I got used to the reprojection. Anyway today the game played fine and I am actually looking forward to continue.

What about a VR mode ? That would be something that would truly change the game, and it would also be quite fitting to what "avatar" is about ...

I started to play 90' extreme skiing on psvr2, not the most beautiful game but looks better in the headset than one would guess from the trailers, the music and voice over may not be the greatest either, but are kind of fitting to what this game is going for. With this negativity out of the way, the sense of speed and the jumps are amazing! For the sale price a strong recommendation. Some people say that You may need a strong stomach. I haven't experienced any problems in this regard.

Then I am still playing FF XVI on ps5. Awesome visual and acoustic spectacle! The main story is strong, In my opinion, though a bit less surprising than what I was hoping for, and the side quests are a bit underwhelming like in most games. Overall I am still enjoying my time with it.

I was wondering how long in advance a console launch has to be fixed. Dev kits go out about a year before launch, but I suppose the slots to produce 5M chips need to be reserved well in advanced and cannot be easily moved years into the future. But, maybe I am wrong and one could still decide in 2025 whether a new console should be launched in 2027.

So far the only thing we know about the ps6 is better ray tracing and better upscaling (provided the kinks of pssr/fsr4 can be ironed out). Likely wrt to the ps5pro the raytracing differences and upscaling differences will appear even smaller than the jump from ps5 to ps5pro. How can one be excited about that, if that was everything. I think we have to hear more to really get excited.

2027 sounds quite early given Mark Cerny's comment concerning the PS6 ("... in a few years " and that currently "... it is just a simulation...")

Anyway it is fun to speculate what a ps6 could offer that a ps5 cannot. For me the biggest improvement ps4->ps5 are the instantaneous load times (and of course psvr2) and that most games now offer a 60 fps mode. Maybe also the dual sense controller. The prettier graphics are the icing on the cake.

I would buy a ps6 if more games would offer VR modes. I cannot think of anything else. I think it will be a difficult sell If the only differentiator is significantly faster raytracing and dlss like upscaling. Most people are even fine with the switch. But maybe ps6 games would offer more interactive or interesting NPCs thanks to the AI capabilities of the ps6?

I mostly finished The Tale of Onogoro" on *psvr2. Great animations, great music, and interesting puzzles. I am just not that interested in the story they try to tell (do I not understand the meaning behind it? Maybe). And in my opinion the last bit is too tedious. Other than that I enjoyed it quite a bit.

I played a tiny bit of Max Mustard" on "psvr2 which is/was? currently on a steep sale. There is nothing negative to say about this charming platformer other than that it is so close to astro bot rescue mission that it is hard not to compare it to that. And astro bot rescue mission just has this extra bit of polish and max mustard pales in comparison. Any way it is a great addition to one's psvr2 collection in particular for the current prize.

But then I am still playing Final Fantasy XVI on Ps5 which consumes a lot of my play time. I very much liked about the first (probably) half. Now I reached a point where I either made too many side quests and it feels too repetitive or the story reached a point where there are not so many surprises any more. Anyway at the moment my character is too powerful, and the latest side quests I did, did not add much. Presumably I still prefer FF7 over FF16, and the only other FF game I played is FF15, which I did not get into at all. Overall so far a great game and I am surprised that it was not received with more applause (or didn't I pay attention to that? Also possible.)..