I only bother with Black Ops games but still unsure of this one. It's just I feel obligated to own this because I know all my friends will be playing this but I do like blowing me up some zombies though
I still can't get the hang of this game's physics... And I have no problem with GT or Forza... Maybe it's because I try to play it like either of those games when I shouldn't ? I guess I haven't been putting enough time into it... Will welcome the new tunes as I try to learn how to not go off the road
I happen to like a lot of the indies so far even if it is a case of the nostalgia bug biting every time. Hopefully they mix it up though some times offering AAA titles and other times offering quality indie titles and I'm good
I am used "bland" looking games as long as I've been gaming, and this looks like it could be cool. Now if every stage and level play like this without variety I can see the gameplay be cool at first then gradually getting stale and repetitive... Also agree, solid controls are a must for this kind of game!
Nintendo is not selling staggering amounts, but Nintendo has been making a profit as of late. I don't see them going third party any time soon. It's true they are stubborn but they still make some of the best games which are worth getting a second console for. Right now I'm in gamers bliss with my PS4 and Wii U I'm glad for both that they are making profits but the PS4 is just ridiculous right now! Hope they keep that momentum going for sure!
I think I got Lara Croft free on 360 before, but then my 360 died (for the 4th and last time) so haven't actually played ! Looking forward to try everything except Castlestorm myself
Edit: wait Castle Storm is not the other "Castle" game Sammy mentioned yesterday. Actually I do want to try Castle Storm as well
Apparently MS's passion is worth more than the fans ... The cash must have been a crazy amount for Sqeenix to risk all this backlash and pissing off its largest fan base . Despite all this they act like everything will turn out ok regardless
I got in about 20 minutes, connected to 1 online match that disconnected lol , didn't actually play online just found an opponent . Ah well, Capcom has said this beta doesn't count toward the 3 planned betas and will compensate participants in some way in the future so I guess it's win win
@Tasuki because in order to participate I had to pre-order a game. I put money down (in hopes) of actually getting my hands on one of my favorite franchises. Granted I was going to buy it regardless but I put cash down with the intent to play the beta. It's diffrent than the Splatoon beta (which are honestly the only 2 betas I ever participated in) because that was free for everyone so it wasn't as disappointing to me. I guess cheated is the wrong word , maybe disappointment is the proper word.
It's not a total lost as I am watching streamers on twitch and at least picking up some tech in the process . To your point though I realize I'm "part" of the beta regardless but it doesn't make it less disappointing that I can't actually get in to even the training room:(
@NaughtyOttsel22 Don't feel to bad, NA here and yet to get one game in I hope this doesn't count toward the "official" 5 day beta cuz if so I'm getting cheated
@B3ND3R Been waiting forever but I guess I'll have to wait till I "Rise Up" after a good nights sleep zzzzzz
On topic, I enjoyed the last TR but I'll wait till This hits the bargain bin unless all DLC and enhancements for the PS4 version are present when this game releases.
I never felt this distraught over someone not a family member... But in a way he's been part of my entire gaming life whether I was aware of it or not. Ballon Fight, Kirby, and Earthbound are games I loved before I ever knew or cared who made them and will always be a great memory. Playing Nintendo since I was young on the NES till this day on WiiU, I can say Iwata was an integral part in my passion for the Nintendo brand. I don't know how to explain this but I a genuinely sad and heart broken over this news.
The style is fine they just need to make it look more like , well .... hair I'm more upset at his gi being worn like that but that's what DLC is for I guess !
I hope it'll be a definitive edition to take advantage of the PS4 with all the extras thrown in. Either way I'll probably grab it when it drops if it's good .
Nintendo needs to stop with hardware gimmicks and focus on innovative gameplay like they did back in the golden days. They need hardware to push the visions they have for their games and not let the hardware dictate the type of games they make. They need a functional controller with options (Dual Shock 4 anyone?) not one where they think everything has to have gyro or touch controls. Nintendo keeps saying their focus is games but they keep bringing out funky gimmick hardware that limits the types of games that actually can come out for the system. Nintendos innovation needs to come in the games with hardware to run everything they desire to put on it while allowing third parties to port over everything they'd want without having to worry about tailoring to the consoles gimmick controls or what have you.
I love Nintendo and are always my first choice in games, but you can't deny the variety and amount that comes with Playstation which is why I have to own both. I will probably always be a 2 console guy at least (Nintendo + Sony) as Sony has amazing IPs as well but it would be nice if for once third party support was equal on all consoles. Could you imagine a KingdomHearts X Nintendo type game where Sora and Micky meet Mario and team up throughout the game ? Waaaaaaaaay wishful thinking !
On topic though, Reggie needs to worry about actually giving fans what they want instead of assuming he knows what fans actually want....
I love Nintendo both for nostalgic reasons and they really have some of the best games this gen on Wii U, but the Regginator really has no room to trash talk about anything right now because at least Sony is actually doing, showing quality software and ideas (though I myself am not sold on VR yet) Nintendo didn't have anything for E3 and probably didn't even have to be there Every Nintendo direct this year had more hype than their E3 showing. I was so hoping Star Fox would blow me away but from I seen so far it looks....... wonky. (Is that a word? -.-)
With so many other great games, this will have to pass unless it improves from now till launch . Really loved the old THPS games but can't get excited at all about this one... Perhaps it was just a phase back in the day ?
Still trust Capcom, still have faith in Sony, but anything handled by Other Ocean from now on is going to be "wait and see" for sure ... I was looking forward to this so I could finally retire my 4th Xbox 360 for the same reasons I had to retire my first 3 (red rings) Sad this has happened to my favorite fighter
Not sure how much a patch a week after can fix . Even capcom has trouble ironing out patches for this game. Sometimes fixes lead to other bugs which is expected with a roster of characters this size . I really hope they fix the input lag first especially after saying it had been eliminated (face palm) .
@Gamer83 to be fair, SFV is being built for PS4 (unless I misunderstood something along the way) so it should at least be optimized for it rather than a port over so I still have hope for SFV. On the other hand if Sony / Capcom don't fix this issue with Ultra soon , people will continue to have a negative vibe toward SFV or the whole Sony / Capcom partnership unfortunatly . The CEO2015 tournament will have a playable build of SFV for participants to try so we can see how it's coming along. I must say though as a huge Street Fighter fan who was looking forward to this PS4 version, I am highly disappointed
There's a certain addiction with games where collecting a stronger card is the goal. Heck I like me some Puzzle and Dragons, but I've never put down any cash for stones.(though I've been tempted) but when all is said and done mobile gaming is just a filler for me till I get the real show going on the big screen with consoles. In my opinion mobile gaming doesn't hold a fraction of the satisfaction I get from console gaming on the big screen with full control on a gamepad. It doesn't mean they can't co-exist, but it does sadden me that mobile games are stealing so much thunder from console games in Japan. I wonder if it's more a choice or a compromise? People working so much or being so busy that all they have time for is mobile games on the go... I guess there's simplicity in pushing an icon to get your game rather than fumbling around with carts or discs.
Maybe I need to spend more time on this but I just can't get the driving physics down and I've played many racers . It handles ok it's just I can't manage the physics like I'd want .... Probably just me ?
I really want this game but I might hold off until SRTs, Corvettes, GTRs are on board among other cars. I like racing in the GT and GrandAm classes but a lot of my favorite cars are not on here I'll wait to see how the DLC pans out I guess ... Game looks phenomenal though !
Like this series a lot ! I too hope Cole comes back some how but keep Delsin and Fetch . And while a pretty game is always nice, I hope they make a memorable experience in gameplay and story with more replayability . I want to revisit Seattle more in Second Son but there's just nothing to do now
Edit: Another thing I'd like is that decision making to determine your "good" or "bad" story lines weren't so straight forward. Replayability could come from the story branching out from each decision as opposed to just having a good or evil story line .
@NomNom yeah I finally broke down and got it , although I got it along with MLB The Show 15 at half price when Target was running its buy one get one 50% off promo Need the season pass though ...
Love this game, it really feels like you're watching the game on TV , only you get to control it yourself. I get the chance to help make my Rangers be better than in real life
Sounds awesome! And a lot of the games minor flawes can be fixed with future patches . Finally hype that was real ! If I didn't have to go work at 5a.m. I'd run and get this at midnight ! Ah well..... Tomorrow after work ! I hope there's still some copies left
Enjoyed both games but I wish there was more post release support for both. Would like to have seen more missions like the Paper Trail or any added missions to make the games have more replay value..
Can't wait for the next full infamouse game! Was also my first PS4 game ! I couldn't find a PS4 till about a week before Second Son released so you can imagine my distress having Second Son pre-ordered with no PS4 All worked out in the end thankfully !
The weird thing is they would have to know by now correct ? Or is it possible that some deal turned sour and now they are scrambling to find a replacement game or something ? Not sure how these things go down, it's just odd that on the day before , there's still nothing.... Unless of coarse we get the "...delayed another week" treatment
Who would want to trade this thing in ?? As far as memories go , PS2 is only 2nd to my SNES though I'll admit I probably put more hours into this machine (PS2). After all it's had like a 10+ year lifespan , longer if you're like me and kept it plugged in all these years.
Thanks . I ended up getting it last night I had the PSPLUS version but I noticed when I Went to download the packs after buying the season pass, I was able to upgrade the plus "trial" version to the full version for free ! Was this due to buying the season pass?
My buddy must be contributing to those unfinished game stats lol. He pretty much buys everything worth buying , plays it a week and never touches it again lol. His PS3/PS4 trophy lists are full of bronze trophys , about 8 silver and 0 gold at this point I call him a game "collector" not a gamer . On topic I felt a little burned by Second Sons length... Though the paper trail and the PSPlus release of First Light made up for it A games length is not so important as long as there is replay value or more game modes . I buy good fighting games and stuff like Resogun in a heart beat. But am more reluctant with games that are simply over or have no replay value after you are done. Stuff like GTA5 are great because not only is it a good story, there are hours of side quests and such to make GTA feel like an immense value. While I enjoyed Second Son.. As I said before , pretty much once you're done you're done... To me not worth full price.
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Re: Gamescom 2015: Ubisoft's Still Trying to Flog The Crew
It was the horrible handling that made me run away and never look back ! I don't care how pretty they try to make it look
Re: Gamescom 2015: Call of Duty: Black Ops 3 Screens Are Oscar Mike
I only bother with Black Ops games but still unsure of this one. It's just I feel obligated to own this because I know all my friends will be playing this but I do like blowing me up some zombies though
Re: Sounds Like PS4 Exclusive DriveClub's Getting New Music
I still can't get the hang of this game's physics... And I have no problem with GT or Forza... Maybe it's because I try to play it like either of those games when I shouldn't ? I guess I haven't been putting enough time into it... Will welcome the new tunes as I try to learn how to not go off the road
Re: You Won't Be Able to Pick Your PS4 PlayStation Plus Freebies Every Month
I happen to like a lot of the indies so far even if it is a case of the nostalgia bug biting every time. Hopefully they mix it up though some times offering AAA titles and other times offering quality indie titles and I'm good
Re: Mighty No. 9 Doesn't Look Much Better When Played Fast
I am used "bland" looking games as long as I've been gaming, and this looks like it could be cool. Now if every stage and level play like this without variety I can see the gameplay be cool at first then gradually getting stale and repetitive... Also agree, solid controls are a must for this kind of game!
Re: PS4 Prints Money as System Shipments Surpass 25 Million Units
Nintendo is not selling staggering amounts, but Nintendo has been making a profit as of late. I don't see them going third party any time soon. It's true they are stubborn but they still make some of the best games which are worth getting a second console for. Right now I'm in gamers bliss with my PS4 and Wii U I'm glad for both that they are making profits but the PS4 is just ridiculous right now! Hope they keep that momentum going for sure!
Re: Review: Life Is Strange: Episode 4 - Dark Room (PS4)
I sure hope they bundle these up ! I'll pick it up as soon as it does
Re: August's PlayStation Plus Freebies Feature Lara Croft, Limbo, and God of War
I think I got Lara Croft free on 360 before, but then my 360 died (for the 4th and last time) so haven't actually played ! Looking forward to try everything except Castlestorm myself
Edit: wait Castle Storm is not the other "Castle" game Sammy mentioned yesterday. Actually I do want to try Castle Storm as well
Re: Square Enix Knew Rise of the Tomb Raider's Timed Exclusivity Would P*** Off PS4 Players
Apparently MS's passion is worth more than the fans ... The cash must have been a crazy amount for Sqeenix to risk all this backlash and pissing off its largest fan base . Despite all this they act like everything will turn out ok regardless
Re: First Impressions: Trading Blows in the Street Fighter V PS4 Beta
I got in about 20 minutes, connected to 1 online match that disconnected lol , didn't actually play online just found an opponent . Ah well, Capcom has said this beta doesn't count toward the 3 planned betas and will compensate participants in some way in the future so I guess it's win win
Re: Hold Up, Ken! Street Fighter V's PS4 Beta Should Be Working Again
@Tasuki because in order to participate I had to pre-order a game. I put money down (in hopes) of actually getting my hands on one of my favorite franchises. Granted I was going to buy it regardless but I put cash down with the intent to play the beta. It's diffrent than the Splatoon beta (which are honestly the only 2 betas I ever participated in) because that was free for everyone so it wasn't as disappointing to me. I guess cheated is the wrong word , maybe disappointment is the proper word.
It's not a total lost as I am watching streamers on twitch and at least picking up some tech in the process . To your point though I realize I'm "part" of the beta regardless but it doesn't make it less disappointing that I can't actually get in to even the training room:(
Re: Hold Up, Ken! Street Fighter V's PS4 Beta Should Be Working Again
@NaughtyOttsel22 Don't feel to bad, NA here and yet to get one game in I hope this doesn't count toward the "official" 5 day beta cuz if so I'm getting cheated
Re: Poll: Will You Be Buying Rise of the Tomb Raider on PS4?
@B3ND3R Been waiting forever but I guess I'll have to wait till I "Rise Up" after a good nights sleep zzzzzz
On topic, I enjoyed the last TR but I'll wait till This hits the bargain bin unless all DLC and enhancements for the PS4 version are present when this game releases.
Re: Street Fighter V's New Challenger Is a Bit of an Animal
Can't wait for the beta !
Re: PlayStation Pays Its Respects to Nintendo's Satoru Iwata
I never felt this distraught over someone not a family member... But in a way he's been part of my entire gaming life whether I was aware of it or not. Ballon Fight, Kirby, and Earthbound are games I loved before I ever knew or cared who made them and will always be a great memory. Playing Nintendo since I was young on the NES till this day on WiiU, I can say Iwata was an integral part in my passion for the Nintendo brand. I don't know how to explain this but I a genuinely sad and heart broken over this news.
Rest in peace Iwata san...
Re: Someone, Somewhere's Considering a Petition Over Ken's Street Fighter V Haircut
The style is fine they just need to make it look more like , well .... hair I'm more upset at his gi being worn like that but that's what DLC is for I guess !
Re: Rumour: Rise of the Tomb Raider to Clamber onto PS4 in Late 2016
I hope it'll be a definitive edition to take advantage of the PS4 with all the extras thrown in. Either way I'll probably grab it when it drops if it's good .
Re: Nintendo's Reggie Is Still Having a Pop at PlayStation
Nintendo needs to stop with hardware gimmicks and focus on innovative gameplay like they did back in the golden days. They need hardware to push the visions they have for their games and not let the hardware dictate the type of games they make. They need a functional controller with options (Dual Shock 4 anyone?) not one where they think everything has to have gyro or touch controls. Nintendo keeps saying their focus is games but they keep bringing out funky gimmick hardware that limits the types of games that actually can come out for the system. Nintendos innovation needs to come in the games with hardware to run everything they desire to put on it while allowing third parties to port over everything they'd want without having to worry about tailoring to the consoles gimmick controls or what have you.
I love Nintendo and are always my first choice in games, but you can't deny the variety and amount that comes with Playstation which is why I have to own both. I will probably always be a 2 console guy at least (Nintendo + Sony) as Sony has amazing IPs as well but it would be nice if for once third party support was equal on all consoles. Could you imagine a KingdomHearts X Nintendo type game where Sora and Micky meet Mario and team up throughout the game ? Waaaaaaaaay wishful thinking !
On topic though, Reggie needs to worry about actually giving fans what they want instead of assuming he knows what fans actually want....
Re: Shantae: Risky's Revenge Belly Dances to PS4 Next Week
Hmm I smell PSPlus material here, so I'm wondering if I should grab it or wait on it after it comes out ?
Re: E3 2015: Nintendo Doesn't Have High Hopes for Project Morpheus
I love Nintendo both for nostalgic reasons and they really have some of the best games this gen on Wii U, but the Regginator really has no room to trash talk about anything right now because at least Sony is actually doing, showing quality software and ideas (though I myself am not sold on VR yet) Nintendo didn't have anything for E3 and probably didn't even have to be there Every Nintendo direct this year had more hype than their E3 showing. I was so hoping Star Fox would blow me away but from I seen so far it looks....... wonky. (Is that a word? -.-)
Re: E3 2015: Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 5 Looks Crap
With so many other great games, this will have to pass unless it improves from now till launch . Really loved the old THPS games but can't get excited at all about this one... Perhaps it was just a phase back in the day ?
Re: Review: Ultra Street Fighter IV (PlayStation 4)
Still trust Capcom, still have faith in Sony, but anything handled by Other Ocean from now on is going to be "wait and see" for sure ... I was looking forward to this so I could finally retire my 4th Xbox 360 for the same reasons I had to retire my first 3 (red rings) Sad this has happened to my favorite fighter
Re: First Impressions: Just How Bad Is Ultra Street Fighter IV on PS4?
Not sure how much a patch a week after can fix . Even capcom has trouble ironing out patches for this game. Sometimes fixes lead to other bugs which is expected with a roster of characters this size . I really hope they fix the input lag first especially after saying it had been eliminated (face palm) .
Re: Potential Outrage Brewing as Ultra Street Fighter 4 Launches in Crap Condition on PS4
@Gamer83 to be fair, SFV is being built for PS4 (unless I misunderstood something along the way) so it should at least be optimized for it rather than a port over so I still have hope for SFV. On the other hand if Sony / Capcom don't fix this issue with Ultra soon , people will continue to have a negative vibe toward SFV or the whole Sony / Capcom partnership unfortunatly . The CEO2015 tournament will have a playable build of SFV for participants to try so we can see how it's coming along. I must say though as a huge Street Fighter fan who was looking forward to this PS4 version, I am highly disappointed
Re: It Looks Like Digital Is the Future for CapcomÂ
This may qualify as unrelated but, hearing some negative things about the USFIV port on PS4. . Haven't tried it myself yet though .
Re: Japanese Game Sales Hit a Whole New Low Last Week
There's a certain addiction with games where collecting a stronger card is the goal. Heck I like me some Puzzle and Dragons, but I've never put down any cash for stones.(though I've been tempted) but when all is said and done mobile gaming is just a filler for me till I get the real show going on the big screen with consoles. In my opinion mobile gaming doesn't hold a fraction of the satisfaction I get from console gaming on the big screen with full control on a gamepad. It doesn't mean they can't co-exist, but it does sadden me that mobile games are stealing so much thunder from console games in Japan. I wonder if it's more a choice or a compromise? People working so much or being so busy that all they have time for is mobile games on the go... I guess there's simplicity in pushing an icon to get your game rather than fumbling around with carts or discs.
Re: Rumour: DriveClub: PS Plus Edition Looks to Be on the Home Straight
Maybe I need to spend more time on this but I just can't get the driving physics down and I've played many racers . It handles ok it's just I can't manage the physics like I'd want .... Probably just me ?
Re: Tekken 7 Gets a Brand New Character, Could Be One of the Strangest Yet
Love Tekken but was prepared not to like this character... Must admit he looks cool
Re: Here's Your First Look at Call of Duty: Black Ops III on PS4
Hmm ...all of a sudden the hype died looks just like Advance Warfare .
Re: Phwoar! Project CARS Looks Stunning on PS4
I really want this game but I might hold off until SRTs, Corvettes, GTRs are on board among other cars. I like racing in the GT and GrandAm classes but a lot of my favorite cars are not on here I'll wait to see how the DLC pans out I guess ... Game looks phenomenal though !
Re: Sucker Punch Wants Its Next PS4 Exclusive to Drop Jaws
Like this series a lot ! I too hope Cole comes back some how but keep Delsin and Fetch . And while a pretty game is always nice, I hope they make a memorable experience in gameplay and story with more replayability . I want to revisit Seattle more in Second Son but there's just nothing to do now
Edit: Another thing I'd like is that decision making to determine your "good" or "bad" story lines weren't so straight forward. Replayability could come from the story branching out from each decision as opposed to just having a good or evil story line .
Re: DriveClub's Getting a Free Tour as Part of a New PS4 Update
@NomNom yeah I finally broke down and got it , although I got it along with MLB The Show 15 at half price when Target was running its buy one get one 50% off promo Need the season pass though ...
Re: Review: MLB 15 The Show (PlayStation 4)
Love this game, it really feels like you're watching the game on TV , only you get to control it yourself. I get the chance to help make my Rangers be better than in real life
Re: Japanese Sales Charts: PS4 Begins to Slip as Blockbuster Releases Dry Up
Those XBone sales though, nice increase ?*obvious sarcasm...
Re: UK Sales Charts: Bloodborne Swings and Misses for the Top SpotÂ
Sigh...
Re: Japanese Sales Charts: PS4 Dominates as Final Fantasy Type-0 Schools Software
@rjejr was wondering the same thing .
Re: Round Up: Bloodborne PS4 Reviews Reveal Sony's Killer App
Sounds awesome! And a lot of the games minor flawes can be fixed with future patches . Finally hype that was real ! If I didn't have to go work at 5a.m. I'd run and get this at midnight ! Ah well..... Tomorrow after work ! I hope there's still some copies left
Re: Fetch Some Supercharged inFAMOUS: Second Son PS4 Themes from 31st March
Enjoyed both games but I wish there was more post release support for both. Would like to have seen more missions like the Paper Trail or any added missions to make the games have more replay value..
Re: PS4 Exclusive Bloodborne's Launch Trailer Will Send a Shiver Down Your Spine
Let's go! Please don't be overhyped ! I really hope this game delivers
Re: February 2015 NPD: PS4 Is Best Selling Console as The Order: 1886 Charts
Not only did that Gif make me laugh, it made my wife and daughter laugh as well ! Thank you for that Sammy
Re: Sucker Punch's Next PS4 Project Will Pack a Punch
Can't wait for the next full infamouse game! Was also my first PS4 game ! I couldn't find a PS4 till about a week before Second Son released so you can imagine my distress having Second Son pre-ordered with no PS4 All worked out in the end thankfully !
Re: Sony: Free-to-Play Will Become a Big Chunk of Our Revenues in the Future
Haven't paid a dime for any free to play games...
Re: Virtual Reality on PS4 Just Got Way Better with Project Morpheus' Latest Prototype
Don't know if I could play this thing long enough to get woozy, it looks so uncomfortable and heavy I hope for Sony's sake it delivers.
Re: Sony Still Schtum on March's PlayStation Plus Update
The weird thing is they would have to know by now correct ? Or is it possible that some deal turned sour and now they are scrambling to find a replacement game or something ? Not sure how these things go down, it's just odd that on the day before , there's still nothing.... Unless of coarse we get the "...delayed another week" treatment
Re: The PS2 Rises from the Dead as Retailer Accepts Trade-Ins Once Again
Who would want to trade this thing in ?? As far as memories go , PS2 is only 2nd to my SNES though I'll admit I probably put more hours into this machine (PS2). After all it's had like a 10+ year lifespan , longer if you're like me and kept it plugged in all these years.
Re: Apparently, People Buy PS4s Over Xbox Ones and Wii Us for the Resolution
I bought it for the light on the controller
Re: Review: Resogun: Defenders (PlayStation 4)
Thanks . I ended up getting it last night I had the PSPLUS version but I noticed when I Went to download the packs after buying the season pass, I was able to upgrade the plus "trial" version to the full version for free ! Was this due to buying the season pass?
Re: Review: Resogun: Defenders (PlayStation 4)
Gonna pick this up today ! Wait did this come out on U.S. shores yet ?
Re: Pachter: PS4 Exclusive The Order: 1886 Could Sell Up to 12 Million Copies
At this point I believe that Patcher is just a curse for gaming @_@
Re: Talking Point: How Important Is Game Length?
My buddy must be contributing to those unfinished game stats lol. He pretty much buys everything worth buying , plays it a week and never touches it again lol. His PS3/PS4 trophy lists are full of bronze trophys , about 8 silver and 0 gold at this point I call him a game "collector" not a gamer . On topic I felt a little burned by Second Sons length... Though the paper trail and the PSPlus release of First Light made up for it A games length is not so important as long as there is replay value or more game modes . I buy good fighting games and stuff like Resogun in a heart beat. But am more reluctant with games that are simply over or have no replay value after you are done. Stuff like GTA5 are great because not only is it a good story, there are hours of side quests and such to make GTA feel like an immense value. While I enjoyed Second Son.. As I said before , pretty much once you're done you're done... To me not worth full price.