@trev666 my theory is they didn't spend that much, and that the game had a fairly massive scope adjustment after Sony started tightening the belt. There are a ton of out of bounds areas with collision, details, buildings, etc. The lack of fail-states in the QTEs, stuff like that. Seems like they were rushed to release something toward the end of production.
@AhmadSumadi that's not completely accurate, but his Veilguard review definitely became a meme. The line "Every character speaks like HR is in the room" was brutal. There were also not many reviews from big outlets that called out the ridiculous handholding in Wolverine.
His reviews are great, but I prefer reading This Week in Videogames (Skill Up's site) over watching reviews.
@GirlVersusGame Anbernic makes portable emulators. The SP is just what it says on the tin, an SP clone. I just love 4:3 gaming in that form factor. And yeah my youngest is in to really cool stuff. He loves Turok, Mario Maker, Rayman, TABS, and Goat Simulator. He is trying to git gud with Kero Blaster rn too. I hear people say that all kids play is Minecraft and Fortnite but do not find that bears out at all.
@GilaMonster
I was explaining @Totheteeth 's comment. You were and are still being purposefully obtuse.
But anyway, I watched a video where an entire minutes long motorcycle chase required zero input from the player, in Wolverine. You could say "well, you haven't played the game, so how do you know?" But it seems like the "game" doesn't require player input, so just watching it is fine.
If you are into the "game," I don't think we will agree on much.
@lacerz Yes. Those are literally the same thing. I played 5 minutes of a full glass of milk last night. It was unweildy. Great fluid physics though.
And FFVII is "SO 90's" as well, last I checked. Zero chance any FFVII fan would not squee if they released this thing on discs. But it's SE, so probably a physical version of the games will come out down the line with a necklace or something instead of all the games on discs. Your sentiment being exactly what is to blame.
Control was cool but I dropped out early because I was sick of having like two things I could do in combat.
Also, man that Wolverine review kind of hurt the site's credibility. That got an 8 and so did this, lol? Yeah, okay.
I think it was a really bad idea to release this in September. I don't think Remedy will be with us much longer.
@PuppetMaster People complain about the Nintendo releases you mentioned plenty. ...what if I told you that in fact YOU just lobbed one of those very complaints???
I watched Charlie's stream last night and it looked like a deep sale for me, but like some parts of it were pretty fun. You don't look at it and see the creativity of something like Ratchet and Clank.
@Cry_Zero you should see some of the absolute trash in the Wolverine Deadpool compilation they released w the film. Some of it is incredible. Some of it reminded me that comics used to be a lot better...
@jly1987 Harry Potter seems uniquely hard for fans to quit. Like I grew up in a town that tried to ban the books because satanism or whatever, but then those same idiots all rose up to support HP when JK started her trans hate. I don't get it.
@Fake-news I was interested in the AES+, until I saw that new third-party games are like $500. If they release updated carts like AoF3: R or The Ninja Masters (new modes, characters, etc) then maybe.
I have gotten a Nintendo console for the launch of a lot of Zeldas, but probably not this one. I am waiting on the next Switch 2 iteration. I can use it like I use my PS5. Plays old games better.
@EfYI the more hands a game passes through, the more watered down the vision becomes. Add to that an inflated budget to keep up with the scope, and we see publishers and developers get more risk averse. You are more likely to end up with just another milquetoast AAA game for the backlog.
This has been true since at least the 16 bit days.
@Kang81 Bro your pfp is AC, which damn near plays itself lol. Especially the kills in Syndicate. "Watch me take this man down in just 36 moves!" Lol.
No shade, just funny.
@Nepp67 I will be honest, I don't play a ton of AAA anymore. There's too much great stuff in my backlog and on the less streamlined side of things. I love processed cheese, but not every day.
@Nepp67 it's been a thing for a long time. I remember PS1 games doing that...like Brave Fencer Musashi. And, honestly, Uncharted on PS3 was pretty much a guided tour. I get what you mean though, in the case of Tomb Raider. It really clashes with the older games imo.
@MFTWrecks I don't understand this sentiment. Have you SEEN the dumb sh*t that goes on in videogames? Over there playing some Quantic Dream game with your pinkie up?
The Venn Diagram of the people who show up to chat on State of Play and enthusiasts that care about physical media/ownership is probably a circle or at least pretty tight. Yeah the bottom line won't get hit, but there's enough to slam your chat. I hate to quote Jeff Bezos, but here we are: "When data and customer anecdotes disagree, the anecdotes are usually correct because it typically means you are measuring the wrong thing."
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Re: Wolverine PS5 Tones Down 'Fart Trails' as Title Tipped to Be a Huge Sales Success
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Re: Wolverine PS5 Tones Down 'Fart Trails' as Title Tipped to Be a Huge Sales Success
@Stocksy that's just a bad analogy. You might be the perfect audience for Wolverine!
Re: Wolverine PS5 Tones Down 'Fart Trails' as Title Tipped to Be a Huge Sales Success
@trev666 my theory is they didn't spend that much, and that the game had a fairly massive scope adjustment after Sony started tightening the belt. There are a ton of out of bounds areas with collision, details, buildings, etc. The lack of fail-states in the QTEs, stuff like that. Seems like they were rushed to release something toward the end of production.
Re: Wolverine PS5 Tones Down 'Fart Trails' as Title Tipped to Be a Huge Sales Success
@AhmadSumadi that's not completely accurate, but his Veilguard review definitely became a meme. The line "Every character speaks like HR is in the room" was brutal. There were also not many reviews from big outlets that called out the ridiculous handholding in Wolverine.
His reviews are great, but I prefer reading This Week in Videogames (Skill Up's site) over watching reviews.
Re: Wolverine PS5 Tones Down 'Fart Trails' as Title Tipped to Be a Huge Sales Success
"We can't patch that out, our players are too stupid" is what I heard.
Re: Talking Point: What Are You Playing This Weekend? - Issue 650
@TrollOfWar love my Evercade.
Re: Talking Point: What Are You Playing This Weekend? - Issue 650
@GirlVersusGame Anbernic makes portable emulators. The SP is just what it says on the tin, an SP clone. I just love 4:3 gaming in that form factor.
And yeah my youngest is in to really cool stuff. He loves Turok, Mario Maker, Rayman, TABS, and Goat Simulator. He is trying to git gud with Kero Blaster rn too. I hear people say that all kids play is Minecraft and Fortnite but do not find that bears out at all.
Re: Talking Point: What Are You Playing This Weekend? - Issue 650
@GirlVersusGame my seven year old adores Teardown. He is constantly showing me the hijinx he gets up to.
Re: Talking Point: What Are You Playing This Weekend? - Issue 650
I think I want to dip into Alien Trilogy on my Anbernic SP wannabe. Maybe some Final Fantasy Tactics or Front Mission? I am working so boo.
Re: The Last of Us Game Director Apologises for Dragging God of War Laufey into 'Boring' AAA Game Discussion
@glennthefrog they just really should start making or at least publishing weird-ass "smaller" games, like they used to.
Re: Control Resonant (PS5) - A Wildly Inventive and Drop-Dead Gorgeous Sequel
@GilaMonster
I was explaining @Totheteeth 's comment. You were and are still being purposefully obtuse.
But anyway, I watched a video where an entire minutes long motorcycle chase required zero input from the player, in Wolverine. You could say "well, you haven't played the game, so how do you know?" But it seems like the "game" doesn't require player input, so just watching it is fine.
If you are into the "game," I don't think we will agree on much.
Re: Final Fantasy 7 Revelation on PS5 Will Be a Mammoth 200GB, Director Says
@lacerz Yes. Those are literally the same thing. I played 5 minutes of a full glass of milk last night. It was unweildy. Great fluid physics though.
And FFVII is "SO 90's" as well, last I checked. Zero chance any FFVII fan would not squee if they released this thing on discs. But it's SE, so probably a physical version of the games will come out down the line with a necklace or something instead of all the games on discs. Your sentiment being exactly what is to blame.
Re: Final Fantasy 7 Revelation on PS5 Will Be a Mammoth 200GB, Director Says
This game sounds like the hand-holding training wheels du jour, so 8 out of 10 but with a "OMG CLOUD AND BARRET BLARRRRGH" push to a 9.
Re: Control Resonant (PS5) - A Wildly Inventive and Drop-Dead Gorgeous Sequel
@GilaMonster like I said (before I saw @Totheteeth 's comment or the reply), the Wolverine review hurt the site's credibility.
Re: Control Resonant (PS5) - A Wildly Inventive and Drop-Dead Gorgeous Sequel
Control was cool but I dropped out early because I was sick of having like two things I could do in combat.
Also, man that Wolverine review kind of hurt the site's credibility. That got an 8 and so did this, lol? Yeah, okay.
I think it was a really bad idea to release this in September. I don't think Remedy will be with us much longer.
Re: With the 'Quality, Fidelity, and Play Time' of a $70 PS5 Game, Valor Mortis Asks for $40
@PuppetMaster People complain about the Nintendo releases you mentioned plenty.
...what if I told you that in fact YOU just lobbed one of those very complaints???
Re: With the 'Quality, Fidelity, and Play Time' of a $70 PS5 Game, Valor Mortis Asks for $40
If it launches in a decent state, I will check it out.
Re: 'We've Been 100% Listening': Insomniac Already Acting on Marvel's Wolverine Criticisms
I watched Charlie's stream last night and it looked like a deep sale for me, but like some parts of it were pretty fun. You don't look at it and see the creativity of something like Ratchet and Clank.
Re: Poll: Are You Playing Marvel's Wolverine on PS5?
@Kriandis yuuuuuup.
I am hoping they patch up BoD a bit. Like how Geralt's movement was cleaned up.
Re: Poll: Are You Playing Marvel's Wolverine on PS5?
Lol. Absolutely not. I adore Insomniac's older stuff but this is not for me.
Re: Marvel's Wolverine PS5 Launch Marked with Celebratory Art from Other PS Studios
@Cry_Zero you should see some of the absolute trash in the Wolverine Deadpool compilation they released w the film. Some of it is incredible. Some of it reminded me that comics used to be a lot better...
Re: Marvel's Wolverine Guide: 100% Collectibles Walkthrough
Just follow your nose...
Re: Poll: 10 Years Later, Is Persona 5 a True JRPG Masterpiece?
The music with lyrics started while I was playing, and I tried to enjoy the game...but that just never works for me. I wish they would stop.
Re: Talking Point: What Are You Playing This Weekend? - Issue 649
TMNT: Splintered Fate. Think I might finally go ahead and finish TP Dusk too. Got Zelda on the brain.
Re: Wolverine PS5 Is One of the Lowest Rated First-Party Sony Games of the Generation
@jly1987 Harry Potter seems uniquely hard for fans to quit.
Like I grew up in a town that tried to ban the books because satanism or whatever, but then those same idiots all rose up to support HP when JK started her trans hate. I don't get it.
Re: Wolverine PS5 Is One of the Lowest Rated First-Party Sony Games of the Generation
@Drnsnsr dude, all you do is sh*t on people here.
Re: Marvel's Wolverine (PS5) - The Ultimate Wolverine Simulator
@Daleaf my friend one time remarked that he could not understand how I could watch someone else play a game. He was wearing an NFL jersey...
Re: Marvel's Wolverine (PS5) - The Ultimate Wolverine Simulator
@Dogbreath if you like that style, check out Mortisimal. Guy is just chill, and none of the culture war BS on his channel.
Re: Marvel's Wolverine (PS5) - The Ultimate Wolverine Simulator
It's not for me, but I am more annoyed by "streamlining" than most.
Re: Metal Slug Ultimate Collection Brings All the Classics to PS5, and a Brand New Game Is in the Works
@WaveBoy I am planning on doing the MiSTer thing next year. I play a lot of Evercade stuff rn for my retro fix.
Re: Mini Review: No More Room in Hell 2 (PS5) - This Co-op Shooter Makes Zombies Scary Again
Oh, online thing, no.
Re: Metal Slug Ultimate Collection Brings All the Classics to PS5, and a Brand New Game Is in the Works
@Fake-news I was interested in the AES+, until I saw that new third-party games are like $500. If they release updated carts like AoF3: R or The Ninja Masters (new modes, characters, etc) then maybe.
Re: Metal Slug Ultimate Collection Brings All the Classics to PS5, and a Brand New Game Is in the Works
@Futureshark you get it.
Re: Tomb Raider: Legacy of Atlantis Has the Right Lara, But Something's Missing
@Oram77 The combat looked really rough.
Re: The Legend of Zelda Is the Only Big Name Willing to Go Up Against GTA 6 in November
I have gotten a Nintendo console for the launch of a lot of Zeldas, but probably not this one. I am waiting on the next Switch 2 iteration. I can use it like I use my PS5. Plays old games better.
Re: Mini Review: Sprawl Zero (PS5) - A Fun Blast of PS2 Shooter Nostalgia
Looks made for me.
Re: Mini Review: Sprawl Zero (PS5) - A Fun Blast of PS2 Shooter Nostalgia
@EfYI the more hands a game passes through, the more watered down the vision becomes. Add to that an inflated budget to keep up with the scope, and we see publishers and developers get more risk averse. You are more likely to end up with just another milquetoast AAA game for the backlog.
This has been true since at least the 16 bit days.
Re: Tomb Raider: Legacy of Atlantis Has the Right Lara, But Something's Missing
@old_gamer74 right, but TR could be like RE, also. Remakes of the old-school games that retain obtuse/obscure elements and modern AAA things.
Re: Tomb Raider: Legacy of Atlantis Has the Right Lara, But Something's Missing
@Nepp67 Nice. I got a cool edition of that w a poster from Play Asia! Great game!
Re: Tomb Raider: Legacy of Atlantis Has the Right Lara, But Something's Missing
@Kang81 Bro your pfp is AC, which damn near plays itself lol. Especially the kills in Syndicate. "Watch me take this man down in just 36 moves!" Lol.
No shade, just funny.
Re: Tomb Raider: Legacy of Atlantis Has the Right Lara, But Something's Missing
@Nepp67 I will be honest, I don't play a ton of AAA anymore. There's too much great stuff in my backlog and on the less streamlined side of things. I love processed cheese, but not every day.
Re: Tomb Raider: Legacy of Atlantis Has the Right Lara, But Something's Missing
@Nepp67 it's been a thing for a long time. I remember PS1 games doing that...like Brave Fencer Musashi. And, honestly, Uncharted on PS3 was pretty much a guided tour.
I get what you mean though, in the case of Tomb Raider. It really clashes with the older games imo.
Re: Aliens: Fireteam Elite 2 (PS5) - A Deeply Disappointing Downgrade of a Sequel
More interested in the Alien Breed collection.
Re: Tomb Raider: Legacy of Atlantis Has the Right Lara, But Something's Missing
I was interested until I watched a demo and saw how hand-holding this game is. Looks more Uncharted than TR.
Re: Game of the Month: Metal Gear Solid: Master Collection Vol. 2 (August 2026)
@Oram77 lol, yes. You won. Your prize is in the mail.
Re: Game of the Month: Metal Gear Solid: Master Collection Vol. 2 (August 2026)
I mean, at least it has Ghost Babel?
Re: Alien Deathstorm Is Not the Sci-Fi Horror I Expected
@MFTWrecks I don't understand this sentiment. Have you SEEN the dumb sh*t that goes on in videogames? Over there playing some Quantic Dream game with your pinkie up?
Re: Alien Deathstorm Is Not the Sci-Fi Horror I Expected
Alien Deathstorm is a great name for a video game.
Re: I Still Can't Believe This Insanely Ambitious PS5 Open World Is Real
Online thing meh.
Re: State of Play's Live Chat Was a Total Mess, and I Wonder What Sony's Going to Do About It
The Venn Diagram of the people who show up to chat on State of Play and enthusiasts that care about physical media/ownership is probably a circle or at least pretty tight.
Yeah the bottom line won't get hit, but there's enough to slam your chat. I hate to quote Jeff Bezos, but here we are: "When data and customer anecdotes disagree, the anecdotes are usually correct because it typically means you are measuring the wrong thing."