I have been hooked on Persona 5 Royal on PS5. I am like 30 hours in and it is already one of my favorites JRPGs. I never played the PS4 version, but this would get my vote.
This has been on the list for years. Might as well play the PS5 version. That said, is better to just wait for a sale? I have the standard PS4 non-Royal version through PS+. For someone who has never played it, should I go for the PS5 version of Royal or just play the vanilla PS4 version I have?
I need to take some notes for my 17 month old daughter. She already discovered my video game collection in the basement gaming room and likes pulling controllers and games out.
Is it a remaster or full blown remake? If it is just a native PS5 remaster like Spider-Man, Cyberpunk, Final Fantasy VII Remake, Jedi Fallen Order, Control, or any of the countless other PS4 games that were ported to PS5 with some native upgrades, I don't see the issue and we collectively might be hung up on semantics. I think even Jedi Fallen Order got a 60 fps patch on the PS4 version for PS5 before they released a native PS5 version with more upgrades.
I just keep seeing it described as a remake, which on the heels of The Last of Us Part 1, makes me think that is what this is: a ground up remake of a 5 year old game. That seems unneeded. I guess I fall in the "more info needed" camp.
There was apparently enough demand for Collection of SaGa, Crystal Chronicles Remastered, and Final Fantasy XV Pocket Edition, but not enough for these? Tone deaf is right.
I played it for a bit on PC and still had plenty of technical issues. I stopped playing though because it simply was not that fun of a game to begin with. I think it is long past time for them to move on.
Overall it sucked. I enjoyed Nintendo’s Direct, but it just did not seem like E3 was worth the effort overall. Too many shows simply seemed to exist for the sake of existing. If they don’t have anything worth showing off, don’t bother.
On top of that, I still do not understand how publishers don’t get the format right. Use the show itself to introduce games and save in depth stuff and interviews for post show content. I’d rather have something short and sweet instead of a bloated show trying to fill a time slot. Also know the audience of who actually watches these shows. Some games might be better off being discussed elsewhere.
EA doing their own thing next month is probably the right idea.
I noticed this after the most recent update myself. I’ll only play for a few hours on a full charge before getting a low battery alert. I just swap it with my other controller. Probably a simple fix, but something they should take care of.
I’m at the stage of my life where my free time is simply too valuable to waste with something I am not enjoying. I have yet to finish this myself, and have similar complaints. I feel like I want to like it as much as many others, but I am simply missing something. The dialogue makes me cringe and the characters are annoying. That said, the combat is fun.
I have similar thoughts about this as I did with XV. There are good elements there, but the characters are just silly.
I haven’t received that email yet, but the Lego Miles Morales figure from the giveaway Sony did for getting the platinum in Spider-Man 2018 finally showed up last week.
It just comes down to money. Whether it is making sure a game is out before the Holiday season is over, or before the fiscal year ends, shipping what you have and fixing it later is more appealing than delaying and not getting those sales now.
Add in a bunch of other issues with major games, mainly the number of hours and people it takes to make them, and I feel like the model is not sustainable. As long as gamers continue to buy them though, publishers will keep at it.
I have been having a lot of fun with it on PS5 so far, but it is really hard to justify continuing to buy Ubisoft games at launch. This, Watch Dogs Legion, and Assassin's Creed Valhalla have already seen decent sales.
I have a handful of platinums, but I only bother with them if it is a game I am really enjoying. I’d never play something I’m not having fun with for the trophies. And that includes games I did enjoy that require a bunch of busy work for the platinum.
Yikes. This game was developed, marketed, and released for PS4, XBO, and PC, not for PS5 and XSX. To suggest otherwise, like prioritizing next gen, is basically insulting to consumers who have paid any sort of attention in recent years. This should have been cancelled for PS4 and XBO years ago, the way it was running at launch was not a surprise and it would not have been better in 2018. They actively hid those versions from consumers and reviewers.
I can't believe there are those on Twitter and elsewhere actively defending this.
Sony needs to implement something official like Steam for digital purchase returns for when stuff like this happens in the future. Sony really needs to make an exception for this game right now though.
This definitely feels hollow. By not allowing reviewers to capture footage ahead of time and hiding the PS4/XBO versions until release, they knew what they were doing. I'm not sure what sort of response they expected though. It's not like they were not going to be found out.
The Mass Effect Trilogy were my favorite games that gen, and I am glad they are returning to the crew's and (presumably) Shepard's story. They also seem to be committing to one of the Mass Effect 3 endings. Hopefully BioWare can turn things around with this and Dragon Age 4.
I appreciate the honest approach to this review. Even the early PC reviews noted bugs, but it seems like the bugs on a decent PC were not enough to really hinder the experience. Clearly the experience is entirely different on 2013 consoles.
I'm glad I didn't pre-order. It seems like they should have just focused on PC and porting to PS5 and Series X once that version was good. As noted elsewhere, they obviously wanted to reach the 2013 system's install bases though and judging by pre-order numbers, they succeeded.
It seems like every review is for PC. I am really curious how it performs on a base PS4, and maybe even more curious how a base Xbox One handles. I will be playing on PS5 myself, but it seems like it will be best to wait for a few patches.
I'm sure this will be one of those videos with the devs talking about how much the franchise means to them. I doubt it will be any sort of meaningful trailer, let alone game footage.
I just remember when I was a kid, I would wait for what felt like forever for something new. I used to replay the handful of NES and SNES games I owned over and over since I would not be getting anything new any time soon. I would usually get a game at my birthday in May, and one or two at the Holidays. Obviously part of that was being a kid, but I didn't feel like it was common for people to have backlogs in general.
I also felt like those around me had similar experiences. We would be playing and talking about the same games for literal years. Even getting to the PS2/XB/GCN gen, I still felt like when big games released, it was more meaningful each time and each big release had more staying power. Right now there is so much to play that I rarely replay anything any more unless it gets re-released in some fashion. It's a bit sad to be honest. Like once I get started with Assassin's Creed Valhalla this weekend, a game I am weeks behind with, I will never touch it again once I roll the credits.
I think it is just a shift in culture, but my perception at least is that games (and movies and TV shows to a certain extent when it comes to streaming) are seen as disposable sources of entertainment these days.
I basically gave up online gaming towards the end of the Xbox 360 and PS3 gen. After college, it was getting harder and harder to actually get friends together online at the same time. I have played my share of online solo or with people I meet online, but it is not quite the same as some of the squads we could get together.
Eventually it sort of fizzled out for me as my gaming time has become increasingly limited. It got to the point where it simply wasn't all that fun to play online anymore.
I have always preferred single player anyway, so I am glad Sony sees the value. I don't think single player was ever dying, I just think it has been eclipsed by multiplayer as gaming in general has grown exponentially.
I've played through Breath of the Wild 3 times and Assassin's Creed Odyssey once, so I was definitely looking forward to this. I am not going to pay full price though, not with so much else to play right now, but I will maybe get to it after the new year once I catch up on some other stuff.
My Switch library and PC library are fully digital, but my PS4 was mostly physical. I have one physical PS5 game, but I might make it all digital going forward.
Well I’m glad I haven’t started this yet. I really want to get started, but hearing some of the bugs others have had has made me hesitant. Hopefully it will be a smoother experience after this.
I am not up to speed with the streaming culture, but could streaming a game on Twitch (or some other platform) that includes nudity be a violation of their terms? I assume there are parental controls to limit what content kids see on streaming platforms based on the game's rating.
I have it, my console is horizontal. It is intermittent, and will start randomly. I can be in what I feel like is a relatively low graphic intensive moment in a game and it will start. It will only last for a minute or two and not really be enough to be annoying or me to be worried though.
I'm looking forward to it. Assuming I enjoy the main game, I will look into the extra content. If this is good, I hope Ubisoft will explore other mythologies in future games in the same style, and the Myths of the Eastern Realm expansion seems to hint at that.
That's neat. I got my Playstation Direct order in on launch day, so I wonder if this will be included for people who bought it there after the pre-orders as well.
I was wondering how this would work with the cross progression and Ubisoft Connect. I guess it makes sense, especially if you are jumping between Playstation and PC or something.
After much frustration last night across multiple retailers, I managed to get one from Playstation Direct. I had the site loaded at like 9:30 pm CT. I started seeing that people were having hour long waits to even get on the site, but I had the page loaded already. It did not have an option to add to cart until midnight, and then it didn't actually work for another half hour. It finally let me through though, and now it is preparing to ship.
I am glad this is finally over after all of this trying. I hope everyone else has some luck.
Probably for the best. I doubt this will happen any time soon, but I would love to see Insomniac make Marvel games outside of Spider-Man. I feel like a single player Thor or Wolverine game could be a lot of fun.
@JustEddie Yeah I have a feeling an overpriced Gamestop bundle is what I will end up resorting to. I guess I can just flip what I don't want from the bundle on eBay or something, but that is another hassle. If it ends up being the "Starter System Bundle" they currently have listed, I would be OK with that though.
I tried to keep an eye on what retailers were doing for the Series X last night, and I hope PS5 gets similar treatment. I will have several tabs open at midnight and hope for the best. Wal Mart will be a backup.
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Re: Game of the Year: Best PS5, PS4 Remake, Remaster, or Re-Release of 2022
I have been hooked on Persona 5 Royal on PS5. I am like 30 hours in and it is already one of my favorites JRPGs. I never played the PS4 version, but this would get my vote.
Re: Poll: Will You Pay the PSVR2 Launch Price?
Not interested in this or VR in general. I have tried a few different ones at this point and have concluded it simply isn't for me.
Re: Mini Review: Persona 5 Royal (PS5) - Still One of the Best JRPGs Ever Made, Despite PS4 Disrespect
This has been on the list for years. Might as well play the PS5 version. That said, is better to just wait for a sale? I have the standard PS4 non-Royal version through PS+. For someone who has never played it, should I go for the PS5 version of Royal or just play the vanilla PS4 version I have?
Re: Six-Year-Old Celebrates After Conquering Astro's Playroom on PS5
I need to take some notes for my 17 month old daughter. She already discovered my video game collection in the basement gaming room and likes pulling controllers and games out.
Re: Hardcore PlayStation Fans Seem Dead Against a Horizon Zero Dawn Remake or Remaster
Is it a remaster or full blown remake? If it is just a native PS5 remaster like Spider-Man, Cyberpunk, Final Fantasy VII Remake, Jedi Fallen Order, Control, or any of the countless other PS4 games that were ported to PS5 with some native upgrades, I don't see the issue and we collectively might be hung up on semantics. I think even Jedi Fallen Order got a 60 fps patch on the PS4 version for PS5 before they released a native PS5 version with more upgrades.
I just keep seeing it described as a remake, which on the heels of The Last of Us Part 1, makes me think that is what this is: a ground up remake of a 5 year old game. That seems unneeded. I guess I fall in the "more info needed" camp.
Re: Uncharted Movie's Final Trailer Is Corny, Compelling
With an 8 month old daughter at home, I am not making it to the theater much, pandemic or not, but this looks entertaining at least.
I'll check it out once I can stream it at home from the comfort of my La-Z-Boy.
Re: Final Fantasy Pixel Remaster Could Come to Consoles If There's Demand, Says Square Enix
There was apparently enough demand for Collection of SaGa, Crystal Chronicles Remastered, and Final Fantasy XV Pocket Edition, but not enough for these? Tone deaf is right.
Re: Cyberpunk 2077 Stability 'Satisfactory', Says CDPR, More 'General' Improvements in Development
I played it for a bit on PC and still had plenty of technical issues. I stopped playing though because it simply was not that fun of a game to begin with. I think it is long past time for them to move on.
Re: Talking Point: What Are You Playing This Weekend? - Issue 381
I’m working my way through Rift Apart at the moment. It is so good.
Re: Poll: Did E3 2021 Suck?
Overall it sucked. I enjoyed Nintendo’s Direct, but it just did not seem like E3 was worth the effort overall. Too many shows simply seemed to exist for the sake of existing. If they don’t have anything worth showing off, don’t bother.
On top of that, I still do not understand how publishers don’t get the format right. Use the show itself to introduce games and save in depth stuff and interviews for post show content. I’d rather have something short and sweet instead of a bloated show trying to fill a time slot. Also know the audience of who actually watches these shows. Some games might be better off being discussed elsewhere.
EA doing their own thing next month is probably the right idea.
Re: PS5 Is Probably Telling You to Charge Your Controller Way Too Early
I noticed this after the most recent update myself. I’ll only play for a few hours on a full charge before getting a low battery alert. I just swap it with my other controller. Probably a simple fix, but something they should take care of.
Re: Poll: Who's Your Favourite Mass Effect Legendary Edition Squadmate?
Garrus for sure.
Re: Soapbox: My Colleagues Bet On How Far I'd Make It Through Final Fantasy VII Remake
I’m at the stage of my life where my free time is simply too valuable to waste with something I am not enjoying. I have yet to finish this myself, and have similar complaints. I feel like I want to like it as much as many others, but I am simply missing something. The dialogue makes me cringe and the characters are annoying. That said, the combat is fun.
I have similar thoughts about this as I did with XV. There are good elements there, but the characters are just silly.
Re: Have the Platinum Trophy in Marvel's Spider-Man: Miles Morales? Sony May Email You with a Reward
I haven’t received that email yet, but the Lego Miles Morales figure from the giveaway Sony did for getting the platinum in Spider-Man 2018 finally showed up last week.
Re: Immortals Fenyx Rising Patch 2.0 Out Now, Adds DLC Support, Haptic Feedback on PS5
This is unfortunate timing for me. I just finished the platinum on PS5 earlier this week, and would have liked to try the haptic feedback.
Re: Reaction: How Does It Keep Going Wrong for Big Game Launches?
It just comes down to money. Whether it is making sure a game is out before the Holiday season is over, or before the fiscal year ends, shipping what you have and fixing it later is more appealing than delaying and not getting those sales now.
Add in a bunch of other issues with major games, mainly the number of hours and people it takes to make them, and I feel like the model is not sustainable. As long as gamers continue to buy them though, publishers will keep at it.
Re: Deal: Immortals Fenyx Rising Discounted in UK Two Weeks After Launch
I have been having a lot of fun with it on PS5 so far, but it is really hard to justify continuing to buy Ubisoft games at launch. This, Watch Dogs Legion, and Assassin's Creed Valhalla have already seen decent sales.
Re: Cyberpunk 2077's Multiplayer and DLC Not the Focus, As CDPR Preps Rescue Mission
I’m not expecting a PS5 version until late next year, and I am definitely not expecting the PS5 version of Witcher 3 any time next year.
Re: Trophy Hunters Rejoice! Ratalaika Has Arrived on PS5
I have a handful of platinums, but I only bother with them if it is a game I am really enjoying. I’d never play something I’m not having fun with for the trophies. And that includes games I did enjoy that require a bunch of busy work for the platinum.
Re: Cyberpunk 2077 Aiming to Be a 'Playable, Stable Game without Glitches and Crashes'
Yikes. This game was developed, marketed, and released for PS4, XBO, and PC, not for PS5 and XSX. To suggest otherwise, like prioritizing next gen, is basically insulting to consumers who have paid any sort of attention in recent years. This should have been cancelled for PS4 and XBO years ago, the way it was running at launch was not a surprise and it would not have been better in 2018. They actively hid those versions from consumers and reviewers.
I can't believe there are those on Twitter and elsewhere actively defending this.
Re: Reports of Cyberpunk 2077 Refunds for PS5, PS4 Being Denied
Sony needs to implement something official like Steam for digital purchase returns for when stuff like this happens in the future. Sony really needs to make an exception for this game right now though.
Re: CD Projekt Red Apologises for Hiding Cyberpunk 2077 on Base PS4, Makes Refunds Widely Available
This definitely feels hollow. By not allowing reviewers to capture footage ahead of time and hiding the PS4/XBO versions until release, they knew what they were doing. I'm not sure what sort of response they expected though. It's not like they were not going to be found out.
Re: Marvel's Spider-Man Remastered Adds 60FPS, Ray Tracing Option on PS5
I’m glad I saved my new game+ playthrough. I’ll give this a try tomorrow. 60 fps in Miles Morales was incredible.
Re: The Next Mass Effect Game Teased, Liara Appears in Post-Trilogy Trailer with N7 Armour
The Mass Effect Trilogy were my favorite games that gen, and I am glad they are returning to the crew's and (presumably) Shepard's story. They also seem to be committing to one of the Mass Effect 3 endings. Hopefully BioWare can turn things around with this and Dragon Age 4.
Re: Cyberpunk 2077 (PS4) - The Potential of a Masterpiece, Totally and Utterly Unrealised
I appreciate the honest approach to this review. Even the early PC reviews noted bugs, but it seems like the bugs on a decent PC were not enough to really hinder the experience. Clearly the experience is entirely different on 2013 consoles.
Re: Cyberpunk 2077 Hovers Around 720p on PS4, Drops As Low As 15FPS
I'm glad I didn't pre-order. It seems like they should have just focused on PC and porting to PS5 and Series X once that version was good. As noted elsewhere, they obviously wanted to reach the 2013 system's install bases though and judging by pre-order numbers, they succeeded.
Re: Site News: Where's Our Cyberpunk 2077 Review?
It seems like every review is for PC. I am really curious how it performs on a base PS4, and maybe even more curious how a base Xbox One handles. I will be playing on PS5 myself, but it seems like it will be best to wait for a few patches.
Re: Dragon Age 4 Confirmed for The Game Awards, Better Not Be More Concept Art
I'm sure this will be one of those videos with the devs talking about how much the franchise means to them. I doubt it will be any sort of meaningful trailer, let alone game footage.
Re: Soapbox: The Conversation About Games Moves Too Quickly
I just remember when I was a kid, I would wait for what felt like forever for something new. I used to replay the handful of NES and SNES games I owned over and over since I would not be getting anything new any time soon. I would usually get a game at my birthday in May, and one or two at the Holidays. Obviously part of that was being a kid, but I didn't feel like it was common for people to have backlogs in general.
I also felt like those around me had similar experiences. We would be playing and talking about the same games for literal years. Even getting to the PS2/XB/GCN gen, I still felt like when big games released, it was more meaningful each time and each big release had more staying power. Right now there is so much to play that I rarely replay anything any more unless it gets re-released in some fashion. It's a bit sad to be honest. Like once I get started with Assassin's Creed Valhalla this weekend, a game I am weeks behind with, I will never touch it again once I roll the credits.
I think it is just a shift in culture, but my perception at least is that games (and movies and TV shows to a certain extent when it comes to streaming) are seen as disposable sources of entertainment these days.
Re: Sony Backs Single Player Gaming in Leaked PlayStation Documents
I basically gave up online gaming towards the end of the Xbox 360 and PS3 gen. After college, it was getting harder and harder to actually get friends together online at the same time. I have played my share of online solo or with people I meet online, but it is not quite the same as some of the squads we could get together.
Eventually it sort of fizzled out for me as my gaming time has become increasingly limited. It got to the point where it simply wasn't all that fun to play online anymore.
I have always preferred single player anyway, so I am glad Sony sees the value. I don't think single player was ever dying, I just think it has been eclipsed by multiplayer as gaming in general has grown exponentially.
Re: Gallery: PS5, PS4 Console Exclusive Kena: Bridge of Spirits Looks Stunning in New Screens
This certainly looks pretty. I am looking forward to it.
Re: Immortals Fenyx Rising (PS5) - Formulaic Fun Takes Ancient Greece by Storm
I've played through Breath of the Wild 3 times and Assassin's Creed Odyssey once, so I was definitely looking forward to this. I am not going to pay full price though, not with so much else to play right now, but I will maybe get to it after the new year once I catch up on some other stuff.
Re: Poll: Are You Happy With Your PS Plus Games for December 2020?
I’ll give Worms a shot, but there is so much else to play right now that I doubt I’ll bother with the other two.
Re: Soapbox: PS5 Is Pushing Me Ever Closer to All-Digital
My Switch library and PC library are fully digital, but my PS4 was mostly physical. I have one physical PS5 game, but I might make it all digital going forward.
Re: Assassin's Creed Valhalla Patch 1.0.4 Details Huge List of Improvements, Out Tomorrow on PS5, PS4
Well I’m glad I haven’t started this yet. I really want to get started, but hearing some of the bugs others have had has made me hesitant. Hopefully it will be a smoother experience after this.
Re: This Is Cyberpunk 2077 Running on PS5, PS4 Pro
I'm still torn if I want to play this on PS5 via backwards compatibility, on PC at 1080p ultra settings, or wait for the PS5 upgrade.
Re: Cyberpunk 2077 Will Let You Turn Off Nudity
There is no harm in the option I guess.
I am not up to speed with the streaming culture, but could streaming a game on Twitch (or some other platform) that includes nudity be a violation of their terms? I assume there are parental controls to limit what content kids see on streaming platforms based on the game's rating.
Re: Poll: Have You Experienced PS5 Coil Whine?
I have it, my console is horizontal. It is intermittent, and will start randomly. I can be in what I feel like is a relatively low graphic intensive moment in a game and it will start. It will only last for a minute or two and not really be enough to be annoying or me to be worried though.
Re: Marvel's Spider-Man: Remastered (PS5) - Next-Gen Makes Insomniac's Superhero Romp Even Better
I am really excited to replay this. Once I finish the platinum for Miles Morales, I am planning on running through this again.
Re: New Cyberpunk 2077 Gameplay Trailer Is One of Its Best
This continues to look great. So many games, so little time. I may end up waiting for the PS5 optimized version when that hits next year.
Re: Immortals Fenyx Rising Details Three Post-Launch Expansions for PS5, PS4
I'm looking forward to it. Assuming I enjoy the main game, I will look into the extra content. If this is good, I hope Ubisoft will explore other mythologies in future games in the same style, and the Myths of the Eastern Realm expansion seems to hint at that.
Re: Sony Includes Exclusive PS5 Avatars with PlayStation Direct Pre-Orders
That's neat. I got my Playstation Direct order in on launch day, so I wonder if this will be included for people who bought it there after the pre-orders as well.
Re: Assassin's Creed Valhalla Commits a Trophy Sin on PS5
I was wondering how this would work with the cross progression and Ubisoft Connect. I guess it makes sense, especially if you are jumping between Playstation and PC or something.
Re: More PS5 Consoles Will Be Available Before and After Christmas
After much frustration last night across multiple retailers, I managed to get one from Playstation Direct. I had the site loaded at like 9:30 pm CT. I started seeing that people were having hour long waits to even get on the site, but I had the page loaded already. It did not have an option to add to cart until midnight, and then it didn't actually work for another half hour. It finally let me through though, and now it is preparing to ship.
I am glad this is finally over after all of this trying. I hope everyone else has some luck.
Re: Assassin's Creed Valhalla (PS4) - Epic Viking Adventure Buckled by Countless Bugs
Yeah hopefully by the time I get to it on PS5 the bugs will be worked out. It’s unfortunate this version is so full of them.
Re: PS5 Stock: When and Where Can You Buy PlayStation 5?
Cue the training montage of me getting ready to go beast mode on the F5 key.
Re: Marvel's Spider-Man Remastered Seemingly Removes Reference to Avengers Game
@Milktastrophe Originally it had both lines. If you jump up to about 2:50 in this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gXxczGCSmHE&t=181s
Re: Marvel's Spider-Man Remastered Seemingly Removes Reference to Avengers Game
Probably for the best. I doubt this will happen any time soon, but I would love to see Insomniac make Marvel games outside of Spider-Man. I feel like a single player Thor or Wolverine game could be a lot of fun.
In the meantime, I am happy with more Spider-Man.
Re: PS5 Stock Will Be Available Online in the US on 12th November
@JustEddie Yeah I have a feeling an overpriced Gamestop bundle is what I will end up resorting to. I guess I can just flip what I don't want from the bundle on eBay or something, but that is another hassle. If it ends up being the "Starter System Bundle" they currently have listed, I would be OK with that though.
Re: PS5 Stock Will Be Available Online in the US on 12th November
I tried to keep an eye on what retailers were doing for the Series X last night, and I hope PS5 gets similar treatment. I will have several tabs open at midnight and hope for the best. Wal Mart will be a backup.