Hmmm, we're going to have to file this one under "Square Enix is taking the piss again". In a new Q&A regarding the recently announced Final Fantasy Pixel Remaster, the Japanese publisher has hinted that the collection could end up on other platforms if there's enough demand and support. Right now, the remastered games are only coming to PC and mobile.
It comes across as a typically tone deaf comment from Square Enix. There is obviously demand for Pixel Remaster on consoles — that's why the E3 announcement was met with such criticism. Official trailers were bombarded with dislikes, and the company's social media accounts were hounded. You're publishing and remastering a bunch of classic RPGs, Square — just slap them on everything!
But maybe it's not that simple. Perhaps the budget on these remasters is limited, and Square Enix needs proof of interest on PC and mobile before it commits any additional resources. Still, though, this just seems like yet another baffling Square Enix decision to us.
What do you make of this? Would you like to play Final Fantasy Pixel Remaster on PS5 or PS4? Shake your head and wonder in the comments section below.
[source jp.square-enix.com, via twitter.com]
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Well I demand it
Wtf, the demand is stronger on the console side compared to pc/mobile side! Squareenix is weird 😕
Not bothered about these games at all tbh. I'd rather see new mainline games in all honesty.
The fact that Square Enix needs demand to put these on consoles says it all.
I mean. If they dont i have less excuse to buy the same games all over again so silver linings 🤷♂️
How exactly do we express 'demand' to these guys I wonder?
Pray tell, how do we demand it? Do we spam their twitter? That's not very good
There's no demand for consoles whatsoever. Nope. None at all. Haven't seen a single soul who wants these on consoles.
I'm pretty sure there is more demand for this coming to PS and Switch than Mobile
What I really dont understand is why this very obvious move hasnt happened yet? It surely cannot be so difficult for a studio like Square to put these games on all consoles without investing large sums of money and time. This should be easy!
Are they living under a rock or something? This is in nearly as much demand as the VII remakes.
This should have been already done. Seriously. I don't understand why they do not just release it for the consoles.
Ironic thing is,weren't the likes of Castlevania SOTN,Papaton,Loco Roco etc..,using a psp emulation on PS4?🤔 Whilst a proper updated version would be nice,in theory Square Enix could make use of the emulation & port the old PSP versions across into a ps4/5 friendly one without breaking the bank.
They're just making an issue out of it to drum up attention and interest.
These will definitely be on console at some point.
@RubyCarbuncle there’s always one of you isn’t there 😂
I demand them but I'd prefer the pixel arts from the PSP Final Fantasy Anniversary Edition.
Also, SE acting here like Console players wouldn't demand this considering that most of the series were released on consoles
This seems backwards to me? Wouldn't you potentially reach the most people by putting them on consoles, and then if there is interest, bringing them to PC and mobile? I just don't understand how Japanese companies are so out of touch.
From their Japanese perspective, surely it does make sense to release on PC and mobile. But then you’d think Switch would be included in that. It’s bizarre.
Not gonna lie even though I'm a huge fan Square are reeeeeeeeeeeeeally pissing me off at the moment 😑
The sheer stupidity of that quote is incredible.
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Lol IF there's demand. Was their Twitter post announcing this getting ratioed not showing enough demand?
theyve already done the pc port making tham work on ps4 wont take much
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I'm surprised Square isn't releasing it on consoles. Feels like it would be a perfect way to play the classic FF games on modern consoles.
@trev666 I see people say this all the time and it just blatantly isn’t true. There’s a reason you get dedicated port devs out there, it’s a lot more than just pressing a few buttons and out it comes.
There was apparently enough demand for Collection of SaGa, Crystal Chronicles Remastered, and Final Fantasy XV Pocket Edition, but not enough for these? Tone deaf is right.
Yes please. Never played any of those!
Would be a day one buy for me!
This is like perfect for Switch.
I don’t understand why they are so pigheaded with the classic FF titles. Switch RPG fans would gobble this up.
@Jacko11 It's not that it's just that I've played them so many times already I don't feel a desire to play them yet again. Nothing against them coming for those that might have missed out ofc they're just not for me personally.
🤣 Oh Square. I hope you never change! I don't know what they need to see to determine it's worth the effort to port but the demand is definitely there.
If they are anywhere near the debacles the mobile ports were? I'll play my roms, thank you very much
FF 1-6 and Chrono Trigger should be on modern consoles. Pure and simple!
Arent these the worst versions of the games? If that's teh case they can keep them.
Wake me up when they do a HD version of the games like that new DQ3 version or smt
@nessisonett pc and ps4 are both x86 architecture. so they dont have to start from scratch. there not going to be particularly demanding as they are coming out on mobile as well.
Also most likely they are just emulated anyway
@trev666 PCs are mostly x64 now, for starters. ‘Being demanding’ also absolutely does not equate to difficulty in porting a game. They aren’t emulated as they’re remasters. This attitude only serves to undermine the great work porting companies have done over the years.
Square Enix has no idea what they're doing anymore, I'm convinced. If their IP wasn't as strong as it was, they'd have imploded a long time ago.
I'm assuming Square's strategy is to saturate the PC/mobile sales first, then port them to other consoles so people will double dip. Wouldn't surprise me one bit if that were true.
How can I show demand?
@Athrum I'd say the current Steam/mobile versions are the worst, at least for 5&6. They redid the sprites and most agree they look terrible. As long as the menus are redone so that it tells you what items do, I'll be happy. That was one QOL improvement the various ports added.
@nessisonett i do not agree with your opinion
Can we just agree there’s 'demand' and start work on those console ports please, Square Enix?
@Futureshark How exactly do we express 'demand' to these guys I wonder?
Presumably, by buying these remasters on both PC and mobile. Then, when Square Enix undoubtedly does end up porting to consoles, which they planned to all along, we can consider ourselves blessed by being lucky enough to buy them all over again on our favourite platform. Bloody SE.
This collection would be perfect for Switch and PlayStation consoles. Why Square didn’t do it is beyond me
@The_Pixel_King it’s a Persona 5 for Switch situation at this point
@nessisonett Consoles are almost Pc's now so i dont really understand what you are talking about? Its a PC with a single setup sounds even easier then a PC port.
So i guess with your logic the games wont work on older Pc's then.
@Flaming_Kaiser Consoles aren’t ‘almost PCs now’ though, that shows a complete lack of understanding when it comes to computer architecture. Regardless of how demanding the game is etc, you still need to put effort towards optimisation, the actual translation, taking advantage of the PS4’s SDK to be able to actually get around the restrictions and such. Plenty games on PC only really need to make use of one core whereas due to the pretty rubbish CPU of the PS4, they have to rewrite that game to make use of multiple cores as it just wouldn’t be feasible otherwise. So much more goes into these ports than armchair devs give credit to.
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Is that a real question 😂, I demand that you take my money 😋
If only Sony had a portable system these could release on.
They're just toying with us, of course they'll release these on consoles eventually!
Reminds me of the time when Atlus asked us whether or not we wanted Persona 5: Strikers, as if they weren't planning to localize it.
I can see it now: FINAL FANTASY PIXEL PERFECT EDITION.... NOW WITH MICROTRANSACTIONS!
@RubyCarbuncle they have so many teams, one is not affected by another.
@nessisonett Yeah its impossible to make a 2D remake work on a PS4 the CPU is to bad but it runs on mobile probably older phones to. Its just about the money dont give me that nonsense that its a problem for it the work on a console. I dont mind if they say dont give me this bull you feed me that its hard.
Well atleast they are not as bad as Blizzard by telling us Sony you have phones they just wont release it.
@Flaming_Kaiser ….did you read what I said? I’m not talking about this game specifically, I’m talking about the entire taking ports for granted mentality.
Literally no one that ever plays videogames ever ask for these on mobile. Maybe on Steam it makes a bit more sense since they want everything but c'mon these are console games, put them on consoles and collect your money.
@nessisonett Yeah first it was difficult because of the custom CPU's now its X86, then it memory and i dont care how you phrase. Now its about putting the least effort while making the most money. We even are the play testers if you look in what state they dare to release games.
I would rather they remake Final Fantasy 6 or any old Final Fantasy games (in style of FFVII Remake or Octopath Traveler) than having people arguing whether to port/remaster over more than 2 decade old games to consoles.
@dustinprewitt same here. I can see it happening too
Imagine not being sure if people wanted to play these on console.
I love these games (particularly 6, 4 & 5 in that order) unfortunately these ‘pixel remasters’ are a real mess from what I’ve seen so far.
John Linnerman (and Alex) at Digital Foundry rightly had a lot of scathing comments about the use of many different resolutions/pixel grids at the same time. E.g.
Honestly it all ends up looking like a Frankenstein mash up job, not cohesive at all. It’s a real shame so little care seems to have gone into ‘remastering’ these beloved titles.
I won’t be buying these versions unless significant changes are made
@KamenDrive I would LOVE these in the octopath style (though I know it was divisive and not universally beloved). But I also understand that is a LOT more work on their end.
Still seems a shame that Final Fantasy can’t do it. If not this series then what?
Demand on consoles for... classic console games? Perish the thought, I remember when gamers back in 1987 wished they could play Final Fantasy on their MSXs instead...
If there's demand? There's been demand since they announced they wouldn't be on them. Or by "demand" do they mean once everyone's bought them for pc or mobile they'll put them on PS/Xbox so you can buy them again?
Where do I sign?
There's plenty of demand if they fix the awful UI they chose.
IF there is demand?? IF??? I refuse to believe these guys are that braindead. I refuse.
Gamers: complain that Bethesda keep re-releasing Skyrim on every new console possible
Also gamers: we want to play FF6 on PS4/PS5
(Personally I'd rather get this on PC anyway so I'm free to just play it on an old laptop if I want to rather than hogging the family PS5 to play a 27 year old game - but I get that not everyone sees things this way)
@Rob_230 I never played the first entries. Started with 8 bought and went up.
@danlk1ng But Skyrim has been released on 3 generation after each other. Final Fantasy 1,2,3 are games i believe a lot of people never have tried.
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