More than a rarity, it's almost unheard nowadays of for a v1.0 version to persist past launch day. The upside is that the launch discs are a proper archive of a fully playable game.
Death Stranding - what a ride. Got the Plat this week. May just be my game of the generation... An ingenious game about helping instead of killing people. It was just what I needed.
No complaint over the games. But it's 2 more EA Play and PS Now games. Sony need to get cleverer if they want people to stay subscribed to more than PS Plus.
As an offering straight to the budget, digital only /Game Pass market, Series S makes a lot of sense and will sell plenty. 50%+ of the gaming public won't notice the difference between S and X anyway. They just want FIFA, CoD, GTA Online, Fortnite and Lego games.
Really, Xbox are just kicking off the generation with a vanilla and Pro version, rather than launching it mid-gen.
Will it mean the absolute cream of the gaming crop ends up on PS5 in the opening years ? I hope so, but that might not be as profitable for Sony overall.
PS3 still not practical I guess (while keeping the PS5 console cost down) and no profit in getting PS1+2 to work well and supporting them. I do reckon they could patch in some kind of software emulator though. Basic smartphones can run PS1 for heaven's sake.
I'll keep my (refurbished) Fat PS3 for 1, 2, 3 anyway
@Mostik Daytona USA on the Saturn was a joy to play, it just had to make sacrifices in the graphics. Daytona's all about the music anyway!
NeoGeo was a mystical creature only talked about in hushed tones on the playground. They cost the equivalent of something like £1k with games about £300 in today's money. No wonder they were so special and rare.
Peaky Blinders is an absolutely brilliant series, one of my faves of all time. I'm not usually into this genre, and the game sounds mediocre, but I'm still tempted. D'oh.
I only have time for one console, and have tonnes of PS4 backlog, so I'll just keep going with Sony. Xbox would need to play the likes of Horizon, God of War and the Naughty Dog games to even pique my interest. That or get exclusive rights to Rockstar and Capcom games (lol).
Meh it's about £3 a month, not worth worrying about in the grand scheme of things. I'd keep paying as long as it keeps cloud saves and the back catalogue of Plus games.
Obviously, free would be nicer.
Ultimately we'll choose a console based on the games available.
BC beyond PS4 won't happen, there's little to no money in it for Sony, and it would add to the manufacturing cost and ticket price. PS4 BC is vital for getting people to move over, but let's be honest, 98% of people wouldn't use PS1-3 BC anyway.
I'm happy with my launch PS3 that has BC with the previous 2 gens.
I'd like them to add lots more streamable PS1-3 back catalogue to PS Now, though.
Whether the reviews were paid off or not, they were bang on the money regardless. This is a masterpiece of video gaming and story telling. There are some very upsetting events and the player is forced to play as an initially hated character for a long time. Despite, or because of that, it works and reaches new heights for video gaming as an immersive story telling medium.
It's also simply an excellent adventure game with some stunning scenary and awesome battles vs. the infected.
They're just cooking up a confusing mess that the masses won't understand. It's really powerful, but for the first third of its life will only play the same games as the 2013 Xbox One. It has 'all the best games' , except all the exclusive hits on PS5 and Switch. It's the 4th Xbox generation yet its name is a word salad with no obvious link to previous models. It sounds like some weird special edition "the Series X, now in Black".
I've no doubt it'll be a powerful slick device, but as PS4 and Switch have shown, a strong identity in the market, quality exclusives and a clear target audience are the drivers of success.
I get his point, but I'm not sure they've really gone away.
That's pretty much what the smash hits Uncharted 4 and Resident Evil 2 remake were, so there's clearly still a market for them.
I'd also put the likes of Control and Doom Eternal into that category, ignoring the optional side missions & collectibles.
I definitely prefer the above to the beautifully made, but utterly bloated AC Odyssey for example.
@Old-Red I agree the Gold rush trophy ruins the fun of the missions, and the bear one is just stupid. I got all the other single player ones but gave up there. Shame, as the challenge and animal studying ones were mostly a great experience.
I'd have preferred the Platinum to be single player only as well, or at least just a few easy token online ones.
@Shepherd_Tallon I'm stuck on that Hunk level too. Done every other trophy in the game without trouble, but just can't complete that one. Have tried the speedruns and dodging, tried going all out combat, still die towards the end. There's something about how he moves that just doesn't mesh with me. Many more hours of practice needed I suppose.
I'm not disputing the quality of those two games, but they are very similar, like last month. Would be nice to mix things up a bit each month.
Also they really need to avoid putting EA Access games on PS Plus, in my opinion. It devalues both of the subscriptions to an extent. Old EA games are also generally widely played and dirt cheap in sales already.
Oh well.
Always a strange choice - send out an unfinished game to meet pre-agreed financial deadlines, then lose a huge chunk of your sales due to terrible reviews. You'd think a major publisher like 2k wouldn't stand for that, but here we are. Same goes for Bethesda.
Ability to hide all those games you'll never complete and have 1 trophy.
Another vote for the ability to separate out single and multiplayer trophy lists. Am missing platinum on a few games as I'm not interested in multiplayer or the server is down.
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Re: Final Fantasy VII Remake Patch 1.01 Out Now on PS4, First Update Since Launch
@jipiboily I've not played FF7R yet but am having similar problems having just platinumed Death Stranding. Just want to go back to my ziplines 😔
Re: Final Fantasy VII Remake Patch 1.01 Out Now on PS4, First Update Since Launch
More than a rarity, it's almost unheard nowadays of for a v1.0 version to persist past launch day.
The upside is that the launch discs are a proper archive of a fully playable game.
Re: Grab a Physical Copy of Final Fantasy VIII Remastered on PS4
Also on sale at Simply Games and The Game Collection.
Re: PlayStation Store Halloween Sale Has Some Spooktastic PS4 Deals
Death Stranding - what a ride. Got the Plat this week. May just be my game of the generation...
An ingenious game about helping instead of killing people. It was just what I needed.
Re: PS Plus October 2020 PS4 Games Announced
No complaint over the games. But it's 2 more EA Play and PS Now games. Sony need to get cleverer if they want people to stay subscribed to more than PS Plus.
Re: UK Sales Charts: Mafia Makes the Top 10 Not Once But Twice
Mafia Trilogy is a surprisingly nice collectors edition with all three discs.
Re: Quantic Dream Classic Fahrenheit Getting 15th Anniversary Physical Release on PS4
This did come out in North America a few months back through Limited Run Games
Re: Sony Confirms Spider-Man PS5 Remaster Is Not a Free Upgrade
@Matroska link to the Crash Toilet Brush pls
Re: PS5 Game Install Sizes Revealed, And They're Enormous
@rachetmarvel makes no difference, installed file sizes are the same with or without a disc.
Re: Sony Considered Xbox Series S-Style PS5, Doesn't Think Lower Spec Models Have Had Success
As an offering straight to the budget, digital only /Game Pass market, Series S makes a lot of sense and will sell plenty. 50%+ of the gaming public won't notice the difference between S and X anyway. They just want FIFA, CoD, GTA Online, Fortnite and Lego games.
Really, Xbox are just kicking off the generation with a vanilla and Pro version, rather than launching it mid-gen.
Will it mean the absolute cream of the gaming crop ends up on PS5 in the opening years ? I hope so, but that might not be as profitable for Sony overall.
Re: The Dream Is Dead: PS5 Will Not Play PS3, PS2, or PS1 Games
PS3 still not practical I guess (while keeping the PS5 console cost down) and no profit in getting PS1+2 to work well and supporting them. I do reckon they could patch in some kind of software emulator though. Basic smartphones can run PS1 for heaven's sake.
I'll keep my (refurbished) Fat PS3 for 1, 2, 3 anyway
Re: Sony's First Year, First-Party PS5 Lineup Blows PS4's Away
No chance God of War 2 comes out in 2021. We can dream, but no.
Re: All Free EA Play Games on PS4
I really this article wasn't scattered with references to "free" games when you obviously have to pay for the service. How about "inclusive"?
Re: Poll: Did You Buy a PlayStation at Launch 25 Years Ago?
@Mostik Daytona USA on the Saturn was a joy to play, it just had to make sacrifices in the graphics. Daytona's all about the music anyway!
NeoGeo was a mystical creature only talked about in hushed tones on the playground. They cost the equivalent of something like £1k with games about £300 in today's money. No wonder they were so special and rare.
Re: Poll: Did You Buy a PlayStation at Launch 25 Years Ago?
@Mostik true, arcade ports of current titles generally disappointed until the mid 90s.
The Saturn also had a few splendid arcade ports around the same time as Tekken et al came to PS1.
Unless you count the NeoGeo, which had arcade perfect titles galore since the early 90s.. (as it was basically an arcade machine...)
Re: Poll: Did You Buy a PlayStation at Launch 25 Years Ago?
I got one in 1998 when they'd stopped making games for my beloved Sega Saturn.
Re: Reaction: Why Hasn't PS5's Price and Release Date Been Revealed Yet?
@Iroha the new Xboxes are both under £500, so it's clearly possible
Re: Reaction: Why Hasn't PS5's Price and Release Date Been Revealed Yet?
@BNAG_Gamer LOL if Sony are using Microsoft Skype, then their calls are definitely getting tapped
Re: Peaky Blinders: Mastermind - Strategy Spin-Off Falls Short
Peaky Blinders is an absolutely brilliant series, one of my faves of all time. I'm not usually into this genre, and the game sounds mediocre, but I'm still tempted. D'oh.
Re: All Free EA Access Games on PS4
The list is missing Dragon Age inquisition, it is in the "vault"
Re: Poll: When Will You Buy a PS5?
Will all depend on how well it plays, and upgrades, PS4 titles. If it's a big improvement it's an early buy. Otherwise I'll wait a year or two.
Re: Reminder: Call of Duty Modern Warfare 2 Is Available to Download Now for PS Plus Members
It's still £19.99 on UK store.
Re: Talking Point: What Free August 2020 PS Plus Games Do You Want?
@delukze no chance, Control's too recent and on PS Now. They won't do another Tomb Raider game for ages either.
I'd like to see Generation Zero as a Plus game.
Re: Talking Point: What Free August 2020 PS Plus Games Do You Want?
@JON22 why buy it if you have it on Plus?
If you need it after your PS Plus lapses, just buy it then. It'll be older so probably be cheaper by then anyway
Re: Sony's First-Parties Have Perfected the Art of Compelling Trophy Lists
It's so much better not to tie multiplayer stuff into the Platinum.
I do prefer a difficulty based one for the Plat though.
And avoid pointless, difficult oddities like RDR2's "get attacked by a bear 18 times"
Re: Sony's First-Parties Have Perfected the Art of Compelling Trophy Lists
@Paranoimia they're not hard at all, done in an hour or two.
Re: Poll: Would You Still Pay for PS Plus if Online Multiplayer Was Free Elsewhere?
@BNAG_Gamer but your broadband fee doesn't run Sony's servers does it? 'Criminal' is a bit overkill.
I'd prefer the cost of the servers was recovered through game sales, but clearly this is the arrangement the market can bear at the moment.
Re: Poll: Would You Still Pay for PS Plus if Online Multiplayer Was Free Elsewhere?
@Netbean you'd spend £400+ on a new Xbox to save £30-40 a year on PS Plus? Or is it because do you think your friends would desert Playstation?
Re: Poll: Would You Still Pay for PS Plus if Online Multiplayer Was Free Elsewhere?
I only have time for one console, and have tonnes of PS4 backlog, so I'll just keep going with Sony.
Xbox would need to play the likes of Horizon, God of War and the Naughty Dog games to even pique my interest. That or get exclusive rights to Rockstar and Capcom games (lol).
Re: Poll: Would You Still Pay for PS Plus if Online Multiplayer Was Free Elsewhere?
Meh it's about £3 a month, not worth worrying about in the grand scheme of things. I'd keep paying as long as it keeps cloud saves and the back catalogue of Plus games.
Obviously, free would be nicer.
Ultimately we'll choose a console based on the games available.
Re: Guide: Best PS4 Exclusive Games
@Gamer83 Yakuza 0 is out on Xbox and PC now
Re: PS5 Backwards Compatibility: Can You Play PS4 Games on PlayStation 5?
BC beyond PS4 won't happen, there's little to no money in it for Sony, and it would add to the manufacturing cost and ticket price. PS4 BC is vital for getting people to move over, but let's be honest, 98% of people wouldn't use PS1-3 BC anyway.
I'm happy with my launch PS3 that has BC with the previous 2 gens.
I'd like them to add lots more streamable PS1-3 back catalogue to PS Now, though.
Re: The Last of Us 2 Outsells the Entire UK Top 10 Combined in June
(mild spoiler below)
Whether the reviews were paid off or not, they were bang on the money regardless. This is a masterpiece of video gaming and story telling. There are some very upsetting events and the player is forced to play as an initially hated character for a long time. Despite, or because of that, it works and reaches new heights for video gaming as an immersive story telling medium.
It's also simply an excellent adventure game with some stunning scenary and awesome battles vs. the infected.
Re: Xbox Boss Believes Microsoft Is in Very Good Position, Will Be Able to Demonstrate Hardware Advantages Over PS5
They're just cooking up a confusing mess that the masses won't understand. It's really powerful, but for the first third of its life will only play the same games as the 2013 Xbox One. It has 'all the best games' , except all the exclusive hits on PS5 and Switch. It's the 4th Xbox generation yet its name is a word salad with no obvious link to previous models. It sounds like some weird special edition "the Series X, now in Black".
I've no doubt it'll be a powerful slick device, but as PS4 and Switch have shown, a strong identity in the market, quality exclusives and a clear target audience are the drivers of success.
Re: Talking Point: What Free July 2020 PS Plus Games Are You Hoping For?
I recently bought a digital copy of HZD, so that's probably what we'll get!
Re: Ex-PlayStation Boss Wants to See 15 Hour AAA Titles Return
I get his point, but I'm not sure they've really gone away.
That's pretty much what the smash hits Uncharted 4 and Resident Evil 2 remake were, so there's clearly still a market for them.
I'd also put the likes of Control and Doom Eternal into that category, ignoring the optional side missions & collectibles.
I definitely prefer the above to the beautifully made, but utterly bloated AC Odyssey for example.
Re: The Hardest PS4 Platinum Trophies
@Old-Red I agree the Gold rush trophy ruins the fun of the missions, and the bear one is just stupid. I got all the other single player ones but gave up there. Shame, as the challenge and animal studying ones were mostly a great experience.
I'd have preferred the Platinum to be single player only as well, or at least just a few easy token online ones.
Re: The Hardest PS4 Platinum Trophies
@Shepherd_Tallon I'm stuck on that Hunk level too. Done every other trophy in the game without trouble, but just can't complete that one. Have tried the speedruns and dodging, tried going all out combat, still die towards the end. There's something about how he moves that just doesn't mesh with me. Many more hours of practice needed I suppose.
Re: Can You Name These PS1 Games?
11/15.
Chuckled at the tricksy Bust a Move/Groove question.
Re: Rumour: Second June 2020 PS Plus PS4 Game Leaked Early
I'm not disputing the quality of those two games, but they are very similar, like last month. Would be nice to mix things up a bit each month.
Also they really need to avoid putting EA Access games on PS Plus, in my opinion. It devalues both of the subscriptions to an extent. Old EA games are also generally widely played and dirt cheap in sales already.
Oh well.
Re: PS Plus June 2020 Games Include Spider-Man PS4, Says Rumour, But It's Based on a Known Store Bug
No chance. Too recent and high profile
Re: Mafia II: Definitive Edition - There's Nothing Definitive About This Awful Remaster
Always a strange choice - send out an unfinished game to meet pre-agreed financial deadlines, then lose a huge chunk of your sales due to terrible reviews. You'd think a major publisher like 2k wouldn't stand for that, but here we are. Same goes for Bethesda.
Re: Ghost of Tsushima Will Kill You Quickly
@Grimwood probably worried about the uproar the slow looting in Red Dead 2 caused
Re: Soapbox: PS5 Will Be Sold on the Strength of Its Sequels
Days Gone had the most obviously open-ended ending, so a sequel is a must. I'd love some more Aloy too. Time to fight those mountain-sized machines.
Re: There Are Only Five PS4 Games Available to Pre-Order from the PS Store
@Rob_230 agreed, it's a quality game. Story is the weakest of the trilogy, but otherwise it's the best of the lot in several ways.
Re: There Are Only Five PS4 Games Available to Pre-Order from the PS Store
Given that most games don't seem to appear until launch day nowadays, I'm not sure it's as much a sign of a wind down as you suggest.
Re: PS Plus May 2020 Reveal Has Been a Disaster, One of the Worst Received Months Ever
@Rudy_Manchego yes, when we consider we've had UC1-3, Journey and Pacman (?!) for free as well in April, it's not that bad at all.
Re: PS Plus May 2020 Reveal Has Been a Disaster, One of the Worst Received Months Ever
I like getting the more unusual types of games through plus, that I wouldn't normally buy. So these are OK. Though two Sims in one month is odd.
Re: Talking Point: What New Trophy Features Do You Want on PS5?
Ability to hide all those games you'll never complete and have 1 trophy.
Another vote for the ability to separate out single and multiplayer trophy lists. Am missing platinum on a few games as I'm not interested in multiplayer or the server is down.
Re: Talking Point: What Free May 2020 PS Plus Games Do You Want?
Good games, but I would have hoped for one of them to be family friendly, given all the children are at home atm.