@Col_McCafferty "walking things back" is the other phrase du jour. Used to be called reversing a decision !
The one that really gets on my nerves is "day and date" , which just means on the same day.
@thefourfoldroot yes the ability to resell is the disc's trump card, I do accept that. We'll never have digital reselling, how would that even work? Maybe the ability to surrender your license for a partial refund? Can't see the platform holders going for it though. Eventually I can see the gaming market move to a purely digital and subscription based model anyway. TV and music is very close to that already.
@UnlimitedSevens a solid majority of disc games on sale for the two current generation will be unplayable or highly inferior once the servers go down anyway. Many need always online connection, and almost all rely on day 1 patches to work properly/ acceptably/ at their best. Only a small minority get fully patched reprints.
Many late releases rely on the latest console firmware being in place too, and the servers to provide that to the console you've had in your loft for 20 years (with a broken /corrupted hard drive by then) certainly won't be online.
And that's not even to mention that a huge chunk of games are focussed on online multiplayer anyway, where long term disc archival is useless.
There's no HDD space saving with discs from PS4 onwards , and broadband speeds are good enough to the extent that downloads aren't an issue.
Ultimately, discs are just physical, tradable licenses with nice artwork, these days. (Don't get me wrong, I do enjoy my PS1 to PS4 disc collections, if only for future nostalgia.)
When I realised all this I decided to take the plunge and go full digital for PS5 onwards. Embrace our new overlords.
And then rely on online "archivists" when we fancy a game of Grand Theft Auto V in 2046 and the ol' PS4 and its servers are resigned to history.
I can't see the point of pre GTA V remasters , the core joy of them was the freedom. The freedom has been done so much better in GTA V and RDR2. The old ones are painfully dated, even GTA IV. Unless they come up with full on Remakes of course.
Remake using the RDR2 engine is a no brainer. 60%+ of the map is already done! Plus it must be possible to port much of the animals, vehicles, people, assets and their animation straight from RDR2.
Just add some wrinkles to RDR2 Marston. They don't even need to re-record the original voice acting either, surely? Assuming the quality is good enough.
@Ilovecoffee this is a fixed camera angle game, not like RE Revelations which is over the shoulder. It plays like Code Veronica (fixed angle, sometimes moving camera), with a setting like the original Resident Evil.
Played the demo and it's a nice piece of nostalgia, but the intentionally stiff controls and frankly rubbish old school resi-style shooting are an acquired taste.
@thefourfoldroot yes PS Now is a massive marketing failure. A shame as there is a fair amount of good stuff on there. Needs a relaunch and maybe a new name even.
@Bleachedsmiles agreed, Microsoft can afford to buy market share because they're making $100s of billions from the boom in cloud computing (Azure) and homeworking (Teams, Office 365).
All that said, Sony are raking it in still. Plenty of space in the market for both competitors.
So much drama over £8.99. There's plenty of really cheap stuff out there if you don't want to pay for the upgrade or any full priced game for that matter. Just wait a while longer.
@blinx01 there is already a free PS5 performance patch for the PS4 version, so you could buy just the new island DLC and still get a next gen experience.
The paid PS5 upgrades seem to be pretty dispensable.
@JapaneseSonic I totally agree, I adored many old PS1/Saturn era games, but so many of them have aged awfully*. Except for Resident Evil, which will be perfect forever.
*a notable exception being 2D arcade fighters and shooters which were and still are super playable.
@thefourfoldroot if they are complete wihh demos and in good condition, they could be worth £1000s as a collection . Check ebay for prices.
Individually they should be worth selling, I'd guess.
This is probably a glitch but let's face it, there will eventually be hundreds of disc based games from the PS3 generation onwards that will be incomplete or even unplayable from disc before too long. (Unless you have the discipline to maintain your own offline archives, as the PS3 hard drive won't last forever either). Pirates to save the day in future?
I don't often replay games and when I do it's short ones like Resident Evil titles.
There's plenty I'd like to experience again but I try to stay disciplined to trying new ones and working through the backlog.
Funny that Liam mentioned Fallout 3. I enjoyed FO3 a lot (years ago) and I started FO4 a few months ago. It felt like I was replaying FO3, so similar the early game is. So I actually abandoned it, just felt like repeating the same experience. No doubt I missed out on some good stuff later in FO4, so will try again one day.
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Re: Feature: Our PS5, PS4 Predictions for PlayStation Showcase 2021
@fR_eeBritney Dino Crisis is ripe for a Remake. But that's a Capcom thing to announce though, no?
Re: Feature: Our PS5, PS4 Predictions for PlayStation Showcase 2021
Something completely new from Naughty Dog please.
Not just a new Factions and not just another remaster/Remake.
Plus Death Stranding 2 with loads more walking. (Honestly)
Re: Soapbox: I Don't Know How to Feel About This PS4-to-PS5 Upgrade Uproar
@KingPev yep, immediate long term prison sentence for "double dip", as a minimum.
Re: Mini Review: F.I.S.T.: Forged In Shadow Torch (PS5) - Awesome Metroidvania Punches Above Its Weight
I love a punchy (pun intended), short positive review. Will stick this on the wishlist.
Re: Rumour: PS Now Adding Final Fantasy 7, Moonlighter, More in September
I'm all for PS Now being used to host copious indie games. They're time efficient and give the opportunity to try new genres and ideas.
Re: Soapbox: I Don't Know How to Feel About This PS4-to-PS5 Upgrade Uproar
@Col_McCafferty "walking things back" is the other phrase du jour. Used to be called reversing a decision !
The one that really gets on my nerves is "day and date" , which just means on the same day.
There's a "lot to unpack"
(Punches self in face)
Re: Soapbox: I Don't Know How to Feel About This PS4-to-PS5 Upgrade Uproar
Do fashion forums contain infinite pages of people arguing about whether a pair of Levi's or Nikes should cost £60 or £70?
Gamers are a pedantic bunch, that's for sure.
Re: Horizon Forbidden West Will Now Offer Free PS4 to PS5 Upgrade, Sony Confirms
So are they dropping the PS5 game price to £60? Bit mental if not.
Re: Poll: Are You Happy With Your PS Plus Games for September 2021?
Removed
Re: PS Now Adding Five Final Fantasy Games Over Coming Months
Nice to have them on the service. But the chance of me ever having time make a dent in even one of them is 0.0001%
Re: Horizon Forbidden West PS5, PS4 Pre-Orders Live Now, Special Editions Detailed
@Thomas98 fair enough. Buy what makes you happy.
And that's why it's impossible to please all gamers! Some moaning about a £10 price difference, others happy to blow £200+ on frivolous extras.
Re: Horizon Forbidden West PS5, PS4 Pre-Orders Live Now, Special Editions Detailed
@KnightRider1982 so Game will be charging £259.99 plus £4.99 postage. Happy days.
Re: Horizon Forbidden West PS5, PS4 Pre-Orders Live Now, Special Editions Detailed
@Thomas98 it'll no doubt limp onto the clunky Game website in a few days priced at a billion pounds.
Re: Horizon Forbidden West PS5, PS4 Pre-Orders Live Now, Special Editions Detailed
Who's selling the physical editions in the UK then?
Re: Sony Will Make You Pay Extra to Upgrade Horizon Forbidden West from PS4 to PS5
A collector's edition with a voucher code is just awful.
Re: Sony Will Make You Pay Extra to Upgrade Horizon Forbidden West from PS4 to PS5
First party AAA PS4 games are £60 RRP, PS5 games are £70. That's all there is to it. If that's too much (it is) then let's just wait for a sale.
Re: PS Store Essential Picks Sale Houses Many PS5, PS4 Game Deals
@thefourfoldroot yes the ability to resell is the disc's trump card, I do accept that. We'll never have digital reselling, how would that even work? Maybe the ability to surrender your license for a partial refund? Can't see the platform holders going for it though.
Eventually I can see the gaming market move to a purely digital and subscription based model anyway. TV and music is very close to that already.
Re: PS Store Essential Picks Sale Houses Many PS5, PS4 Game Deals
@UnlimitedSevens a solid majority of disc games on sale for the two current generation will be unplayable or highly inferior once the servers go down anyway. Many need always online connection, and almost all rely on day 1 patches to work properly/ acceptably/ at their best. Only a small minority get fully patched reprints.
Many late releases rely on the latest console firmware being in place too, and the servers to provide that to the console you've had in your loft for 20 years (with a broken /corrupted hard drive by then) certainly won't be online.
And that's not even to mention that a huge chunk of games are focussed on online multiplayer anyway, where long term disc archival is useless.
There's no HDD space saving with discs from PS4 onwards , and broadband speeds are good enough to the extent that downloads aren't an issue.
Ultimately, discs are just physical, tradable licenses with nice artwork, these days. (Don't get me wrong, I do enjoy my PS1 to PS4 disc collections, if only for future nostalgia.)
When I realised all this I decided to take the plunge and go full digital for PS5 onwards. Embrace our new overlords.
And then rely on online "archivists" when we fancy a game of Grand Theft Auto V in 2046 and the ol' PS4 and its servers are resigned to history.
Re: Death Stranding Details What Its PS5 Director's Cut Offers
I wonder if you can play the new missions having finished the game already, or if you have to start from the beginning
Re: PS5, PS4 Playtime Website Encounters Turbulence As Sony Bans Accounts
Ah no, that's a shame . Definitely more accurate than Sony's own stats as well.
Re: Rumour: Red Dead Redemption Remaster Planned, But Could Depend on GTA Success
I can't see the point of pre GTA V remasters , the core joy of them was the freedom. The freedom has been done so much better in GTA V and RDR2. The old ones are painfully dated, even GTA IV. Unless they come up with full on Remakes of course.
Re: Rumour: Red Dead Redemption Remaster Planned, But Could Depend on GTA Success
Remake using the RDR2 engine is a no brainer. 60%+ of the map is already done! Plus it must be possible to port much of the animals, vehicles, people, assets and their animation straight from RDR2.
Just add some wrinkles to RDR2 Marston. They don't even need to re-record the original voice acting either, surely? Assuming the quality is good enough.
Make it happen Rockstar.
Re: Survival Horror Game Tormented Souls Out This Month, Demo Available Now
@jrt87 Deep Fear? A hidden gem of dreadful voice acting.
Re: Survival Horror Game Tormented Souls Out This Month, Demo Available Now
@tselliot I'd be surprised if it makes it to Plus any time soon, it's such a niche game genre these days.
Re: Survival Horror Game Tormented Souls Out This Month, Demo Available Now
@Ilovecoffee this is a fixed camera angle game, not like RE Revelations which is over the shoulder. It plays like Code Veronica (fixed angle, sometimes moving camera), with a setting like the original Resident Evil.
Played the demo and it's a nice piece of nostalgia, but the intentionally stiff controls and frankly rubbish old school resi-style shooting are an acquired taste.
Re: Rush Hour Begins in Train Sim World 2 on 19th August, Free PS5 Upgrade Departs
I love how they put RUSH HOUR in caps and super tough metal font.
Re: PS Now August 2021 Games Announced with NieR: Automata, Ghostrunner, Undertale Added
@thefourfoldroot yes PS Now is a massive marketing failure. A shame as there is a fair amount of good stuff on there. Needs a relaunch and maybe a new name even.
Re: PS Now August 2021 Games Announced with NieR: Automata, Ghostrunner, Undertale Added
Been planning to play Judgment and Nier for ages, so PS Now has really come up trumps lately.
Re: Poll: Should Sony Do More PS5 Director's Cuts?
Votes Days Gone, needs to continue the story
Re: Sony Fans Bicker Over Ghost of Tsushima PS5 Paywall
@Bleachedsmiles agreed, Microsoft can afford to buy market share because they're making $100s of billions from the boom in cloud computing (Azure) and homeworking (Teams, Office 365).
All that said, Sony are raking it in still. Plenty of space in the market for both competitors.
Re: Sony Fans Bicker Over Ghost of Tsushima PS5 Paywall
So much drama over £8.99. There's plenty of really cheap stuff out there if you don't want to pay for the upgrade or any full priced game for that matter. Just wait a while longer.
Re: Pre-Order Ghost of Tsushima: Director's Cut on PS Store and Play the PS4 Game Today
GoT isn't currently listed on the PS Store! Must be getting an overnight makeover.
Re: Spider-Man: Miles Morales Patch 1.10 Makes Ray Tracing Even Better
@ViolentEntity Gran Turismo was genuinely astonishing when it came out. Played that for hundreds of hours.
Re: Pre-Order Ghost of Tsushima: Director's Cut on PS Store and Play the PS4 Game Today
@blinx01 there is already a free PS5 performance patch for the PS4 version, so you could buy just the new island DLC and still get a next gen experience.
The paid PS5 upgrades seem to be pretty dispensable.
Re: Feature: What Are Your Most Anticipated PS5, PS4 Games for the Rest of 2021?
How odd, I don't see the PS5 version of Death Stranding in that list!!!
Re: Spider-Man: Miles Morales Patch 1.10 Makes Ray Tracing Even Better
@ViolentEntity you mean the re-release on PS1? Yes that was a nice little upgrade, with shuffled around puzzles and the like.
Re: Reaction: Messy Ghost of Tsushima Upgrade Makes PS5 for the Payers
I really can't think of any other hobby where people fret and moan so much over relatively small amounts of money.
Especially when within 2 years most things have depreciated to peanuts and their functionality remains the same, if not improved (patches etc).
Re: Spider-Man: Miles Morales Patch 1.10 Makes Ray Tracing Even Better
@JapaneseSonic I totally agree, I adored many old PS1/Saturn era games, but so many of them have aged awfully*. Except for Resident Evil, which will be perfect forever.
*a notable exception being 2D arcade fighters and shooters which were and still are super playable.
Re: Spider-Man: Miles Morales Patch 1.10 Makes Ray Tracing Even Better
Such a stunning looking game and 60FPS is silky dreamland.
Re: PS Plus July 2021 PS5, PS4 Games Announced
Another month, a load of people pining for Lost Legacy, it's hilarious. Just buy it, sub £10 on disc.
Re: Scarlet Nexus (PS5) - 'Brain Punk' RPG Gets a Lot Right, But Ends Up Feeling Stunted
Anyone else really enjoy that over the top music video at the end of the demo?
Re: All EA Play Games on PS5, PS4
@get2sammyb still missing Dragon Age Inquisition from the list
Re: Rumour: Ghost of Tsushima Standalone Expansion to Be Announced at Incoming PlayStation Event
Waiting for Ghost of Anglesey
Re: Multiplayer Spin-Off Resident Evil Re:Verse Releases Next Month
It's been downloaded on my PS4 for a few weeks, hadn't bothered to even try to open it - had no idea it wasn't even working yet.
Shows how much interest I have in multiplayer Resi.
Re: PS Now June 2021 Update Adds The Witcher 3, Sonic Games, Slay the Spire, and More
Some nice additions there. Could've done with Witcher 3 being permanent though, unlikely I'll get through it in time.
Re: Official PlayStation Magazine UK Canned, PLAY Branding Resurrected
@thefourfoldroot if they are complete wihh demos and in good condition, they could be worth £1000s as a collection . Check ebay for prices.
Individually they should be worth selling, I'd guess.
Definitely don't chuck them out!
Re: PS Plus May 2021 PS5, PS4 Games Announced
All on PS Now and EA Play so nothing new for me. Oh well.
Wreck fest leaving PS Now in May so that's something I guess.
Re: Some PS3 Games Supposedly No Longer Downloading Patches
@d-slice yes, but for how long isn't clear.
Re: Some PS3 Games Supposedly No Longer Downloading Patches
This is probably a glitch but let's face it, there will eventually be hundreds of disc based games from the PS3 generation onwards that will be incomplete or even unplayable from disc before too long. (Unless you have the discipline to maintain your own offline archives, as the PS3 hard drive won't last forever either). Pirates to save the day in future?
While I don't have similar for PS3 to share, this is a useful thread that identifies complete, updated PS4 games on disc
https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=316998
Re: Soapbox: Why Do You Replay Games?
I don't often replay games and when I do it's short ones like Resident Evil titles.
There's plenty I'd like to experience again but I try to stay disciplined to trying new ones and working through the backlog.
Funny that Liam mentioned Fallout 3. I enjoyed FO3 a lot (years ago) and I started FO4 a few months ago. It felt like I was replaying FO3, so similar the early game is. So I actually abandoned it, just felt like repeating the same experience. No doubt I missed out on some good stuff later in FO4, so will try again one day.