Watched it this morning and I also thought it was a bit spoilertastic, if totally nonsensical for people that haven't played the game. Loads of important scenes casually included.

What's the general consensus on this game? Is there a pay off from the massive time sink? I like the look of the locations.
Must admit I got bored before half way through Odyssey.

This has made me realise that you hardly ever see people calling for more Infamous games*, like you do for e.g. Syphon Filter, Sly Cooper, Motorstorm, and others.

I thought Second Son was a really well made game, if a bit forgettable. I guess lots of people felt the same.

(* Same for the Killzone series too.)

@fR_eeBritney Dino Crisis is ripe for a Remake. But that's a Capcom thing to announce though, no?

Something completely new from Naughty Dog please.

Not just a new Factions and not just another remaster/Remake.

Plus Death Stranding 2 with loads more walking. (Honestly)

@KingPev yep, immediate long term prison sentence for "double dip", as a minimum.

I love a punchy (pun intended), short positive review. Will stick this on the wishlist.

I'm all for PS Now being used to host copious indie games. They're time efficient and give the opportunity to try new genres and ideas.

@Col_McCafferty "walking things back" is the other phrase du jour. Used to be called reversing a decision !
The one that really gets on my nerves is "day and date" , which just means on the same day.

There's a "lot to unpack"

(Punches self in face)

Do fashion forums contain infinite pages of people arguing about whether a pair of Levi's or Nikes should cost £60 or £70?

Gamers are a pedantic bunch, that's for sure.

So are they dropping the PS5 game price to £60? Bit mental if not.

Nice to have them on the service. But the chance of me ever having time make a dent in even one of them is 0.0001%

@Thomas98 fair enough. Buy what makes you happy.

And that's why it's impossible to please all gamers! Some moaning about a £10 price difference, others happy to blow £200+ on frivolous extras.

@KnightRider1982 so Game will be charging £259.99 plus £4.99 postage. Happy days.

@Thomas98 it'll no doubt limp onto the clunky Game website in a few days priced at a billion pounds.

Who's selling the physical editions in the UK then?

A collector's edition with a voucher code is just awful.

First party AAA PS4 games are £60 RRP, PS5 games are £70. That's all there is to it. If that's too much (it is) then let's just wait for a sale.

@thefourfoldroot yes the ability to resell is the disc's trump card, I do accept that. We'll never have digital reselling, how would that even work? Maybe the ability to surrender your license for a partial refund? Can't see the platform holders going for it though.
Eventually I can see the gaming market move to a purely digital and subscription based model anyway. TV and music is very close to that already.

@UnlimitedSevens a solid majority of disc games on sale for the two current generation will be unplayable or highly inferior once the servers go down anyway. Many need always online connection, and almost all rely on day 1 patches to work properly/ acceptably/ at their best. Only a small minority get fully patched reprints.

Many late releases rely on the latest console firmware being in place too, and the servers to provide that to the console you've had in your loft for 20 years (with a broken /corrupted hard drive by then) certainly won't be online.

And that's not even to mention that a huge chunk of games are focussed on online multiplayer anyway, where long term disc archival is useless.

There's no HDD space saving with discs from PS4 onwards , and broadband speeds are good enough to the extent that downloads aren't an issue.

Ultimately, discs are just physical, tradable licenses with nice artwork, these days. (Don't get me wrong, I do enjoy my PS1 to PS4 disc collections, if only for future nostalgia.)

When I realised all this I decided to take the plunge and go full digital for PS5 onwards. Embrace our new overlords.

And then rely on online "archivists" when we fancy a game of Grand Theft Auto V in 2046 and the ol' PS4 and its servers are resigned to history.

I wonder if you can play the new missions having finished the game already, or if you have to start from the beginning

Ah no, that's a shame . Definitely more accurate than Sony's own stats as well.

I can't see the point of pre GTA V remasters , the core joy of them was the freedom. The freedom has been done so much better in GTA V and RDR2. The old ones are painfully dated, even GTA IV. Unless they come up with full on Remakes of course.

Remake using the RDR2 engine is a no brainer. 60%+ of the map is already done! Plus it must be possible to port much of the animals, vehicles, people, assets and their animation straight from RDR2.
Just add some wrinkles to RDR2 Marston. They don't even need to re-record the original voice acting either, surely? Assuming the quality is good enough.

Make it happen Rockstar.

@jrt87 Deep Fear? A hidden gem of dreadful voice acting.

@tselliot I'd be surprised if it makes it to Plus any time soon, it's such a niche game genre these days.

@Ilovecoffee this is a fixed camera angle game, not like RE Revelations which is over the shoulder. It plays like Code Veronica (fixed angle, sometimes moving camera), with a setting like the original Resident Evil.

Played the demo and it's a nice piece of nostalgia, but the intentionally stiff controls and frankly rubbish old school resi-style shooting are an acquired taste.

I love how they put RUSH HOUR in caps and super tough metal font.

@thefourfoldroot yes PS Now is a massive marketing failure. A shame as there is a fair amount of good stuff on there. Needs a relaunch and maybe a new name even.

Been planning to play Judgment and Nier for ages, so PS Now has really come up trumps lately.

Votes Days Gone, needs to continue the story

@Bleachedsmiles agreed, Microsoft can afford to buy market share because they're making $100s of billions from the boom in cloud computing (Azure) and homeworking (Teams, Office 365).
All that said, Sony are raking it in still. Plenty of space in the market for both competitors.

So much drama over £8.99. There's plenty of really cheap stuff out there if you don't want to pay for the upgrade or any full priced game for that matter. Just wait a while longer.

GoT isn't currently listed on the PS Store! Must be getting an overnight makeover.

@ViolentEntity Gran Turismo was genuinely astonishing when it came out. Played that for hundreds of hours.

@blinx01 there is already a free PS5 performance patch for the PS4 version, so you could buy just the new island DLC and still get a next gen experience.
The paid PS5 upgrades seem to be pretty dispensable.

How odd, I don't see the PS5 version of Death Stranding in that list!!!

@ViolentEntity you mean the re-release on PS1? Yes that was a nice little upgrade, with shuffled around puzzles and the like.

I really can't think of any other hobby where people fret and moan so much over relatively small amounts of money.

Especially when within 2 years most things have depreciated to peanuts and their functionality remains the same, if not improved (patches etc).

@JapaneseSonic I totally agree, I adored many old PS1/Saturn era games, but so many of them have aged awfully*. Except for Resident Evil, which will be perfect forever.

*a notable exception being 2D arcade fighters and shooters which were and still are super playable.

Such a stunning looking game and 60FPS is silky dreamland.

Another month, a load of people pining for Lost Legacy, it's hilarious. Just buy it, sub £10 on disc.

Anyone else really enjoy that over the top music video at the end of the demo?

@get2sammyb still missing Dragon Age Inquisition from the list

Waiting for Ghost of Anglesey

It's been downloaded on my PS4 for a few weeks, hadn't bothered to even try to open it - had no idea it wasn't even working yet.

Shows how much interest I have in multiplayer Resi.

Some nice additions there. Could've done with Witcher 3 being permanent though, unlikely I'll get through it in time.

@thefourfoldroot if they are complete wihh demos and in good condition, they could be worth £1000s as a collection . Check ebay for prices.
Individually they should be worth selling, I'd guess.

Definitely don't chuck them out!

All on PS Now and EA Play so nothing new for me. Oh well.
Wreck fest leaving PS Now in May so that's something I guess.