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I'm a huge fan of both the recent God of War games for PS4/PS5 but this doesn't interest me in the slightest. Not because it's smaller in scope, but because the gameplay in no way resembles the games that I enjoyed, and this type of game holds no interest to me. But there is a market for smaller first-party titles, no question.

@GamerDad76 I came here to say the same thing, Kimulator's Films produces nothing but garbage shovelware and the PS Store would be much better off without their inclusion.

I don't usually do this, but...

I TOLD YOU SO

A lot of people are being purposefully obtuse. In a vacuum, obviously a 77 or 82 or whatever isn't a disappointment, but when you consider the hype and expectations THIS game had going, for quite a while, then it absolutely IS a disappointment, and anybody expressing shock at that isn't being genuine, in my opinion.

If this leads to fewer people pre-ordering games, then at least it served some sort of purpose. I can't think of any other circumstance where you would blindly commit your money to a product before having any idea at all about the quality of said product, and I would love to see the practice become extinct in gaming. It literally serves zero purpose for the consumer.

The adults in the room who were paying attention saw this coming.

Because it's totally logical and rational to hide something that is well optimized and going to make people happy...said nobody, ever, since the dawn of f'n time.

This is absolutely my type of thing

I've never, EVER seen a situation where somebody was able to prove something that people were skeptical about, but simply chose not to...for no reason. That's all I'm going to say.

I knew Dragon's Dogma 2 sounded too good to be true.

I usually never say this, but maybe these guys should try their hand at something else? Between Bound By Flame and the two GreedFalls, action RPGs clearly aren't in their wheelhouse. I never tried The Technomancer or Steel Rising, but those also got uninspiring review scores. Five bites at the apple now, and they've made five games that are all 5-7 out of 10. Move on fellas.

@StitchJones I suspect that you will be proven correct in the end. It looks like an RPG to me as well, for the most part.

@StitchJones it's not an RPG, devs words not mine.

@3Above but you could just buy the game digitally on release day, even a 100GB game takes minutes to download (at least where I live) so I still have yet to see an actual benefit to committing your money to a product you have no idea how it will perform. I'm not trying to start an argument, I'm trying to illustrate how ludicrous a practice preordering is. Would you put money down on a car before knowing how well it ran?

After a lifetime of seeing "PC Master Race" garbage, I'm not losing any sleep over this one.

If you're not hiding anything, then show the footage of the game running on a base PS5...

Also, can somebody list even ONE benefit of pre-ordering games? Like an actual benefit, not just because you "like to." I mean a real, actually tangible benefit of giving them your money early? Because to me, the concept of pre-ordering games is full on lunacy, and a big reason the industry exists as it does.

@Balaam_ I call absolute b.s. that you "own mint, sealed, black label original printing of certain games that are worth more than what many would pay for a decent used car." That's ridiculous, and you know it. Either that, or you have no idea how much used cars go for these days.

I wish devs and publishers would stop wasting so much time and money chasing the live service bag. You're basically as smart as the guy banking on getting rich by winning the lottery. Move on already.

I'm doing whatever is most convenient. That's my dog in this fight, convenience.

@StarZinger you could be right, either way I just hope it's a successful launch and everybody wins!

You had me at Joy Division.

Here's the thing...if I'm Pearl Abyss, and this thing can run on a PS5, I'm proving that to the public as soon as I possibly can. The fact that we are two weeks out and have seen ZERO footage of the game running on PS5 essentially means that the game DOESN'T run on PS5 yet, at least not well enough to show the public. So Pearl Abyss employees have two weeks worth of crunch to look forward to while they try to get the game in a playable state on console.

Just my theory.

The biggest problem with Starfield is that it's not TES VI or Fallout 5. That's one of the biggest reasons people hate on it. They wanted something else.

This might shock some people, but not all console gamers are people naive to or unaware that PC gaming exists. I have a gaming PC, well I have a PC that I built the better part of a decade ago that was a gaming PC when I built it. It's covered in dust, and hasn't been turned on in years. I PREFER console. I've played on PC-Master-Race-Ultra-Modded settings before, I still prefer my PS5, because of the convenience, I don't have to tinker with every single game to get it to run in an optimized state, and I like sitting on my couch and playing on my big TV. There is nothing that would get me back to PC gaming. If consoles disappeared, I'd find a new hobby. I can't be the only person like this.

@Balaam_ they are affiliate links, PushSquare has a financial incentive to place those banners. It's not because they're trying to champion physical media.

Rise and Slime Rancher are both interesting enough for me to consider it a solid month. I'll never touch the golf game, and ESO just makes me want to play Oblivion or Skyrim.

IF I was on the fence regarding whether or not to upgrade to a PS5 Pro, the fact that such a sizeable quantity of developers don't seem to care or bother with Pro support would be enough to get me to stick with my base PS5. I just can't justify spending $750, and then another $100+ for a disc drive and a stand, for a console where less than half (an assumption on my part) of the games have improved visuals.

First party Xbox games (oxymoron?) come to Game Pass on release day, which absolutely cannibalizes sales. The only way they can possibly recoup the cost of the game's development, let alone hope to make a profit, is to offset the Game Pass cannibalization by releasing their games on every platform available. It's that simple. Quite frankly, they do not have the option of reverting to first party exclusivity without essentially sinking the entire ship.

This is a franchise where every game released was worse than the one before it. SR1 and 2 were fun, but after that it got too weird for me and I stopped caring.

Even a massive title like Madden or NBA2K would be disappointing as the "headline" game simply because most of the people interested would have long ago bought those titles, myself included.

Something like PGA Tour is about the worst possible choice you could make. The lineup could consist of literally the top 3 games on my wishlist in addition to this, and I would still find myself saying "PGA Tour, really?" Whoever made that final decision should be reassigned to a different role in the company, I'm not even slightly joking.

For as much entertainment that just KCD2 alone has provided me, I simply wish the man well and hope this move makes him happy.

@Balaam_ no offense mate, but there is no way that I believe you only took a "cursory glance at the trophy list" based on reading some of your previous comments. You care about trophies the way a vampire cares about blood.

It's comical to me how I see so many of the same usernames that I see on other articles about this game. You all spend a fair amount of time reading and commenting on a game you allegedly dislike. I find that curious, and very strange. Game seems fun to me, but I don't have an agenda, what do I know...

@andrewsqual Where did I defend the game? I was simply pointing out the perceived emotional instability that some of the comments presented. The fact that you felt triggered by that essentially proves my point, so I thank you.

I think it's weird how emotional some people seem to get regarding this game. If it doesn't look good to you, don't spend your money and don't play it. Some people are so worked up though I'm starting to think Avowed bullied them in high school or slept with their mother or something. Good god.

PS Plus at current retail cost is already overpriced. The only time I'm on a level above Essential is when I take advantage of the Black Friday sale. Increasing the cost of PS Plus would result in a pretty strong backlash, IMO.

@JB_Whiting So there shouldn't be difficulty options for anybody, because you can't control your temptation to use them?

They lost me when they said "this is not an RPG."

At this point, I don't care. Unless it's about TES VI or Fallout 5, I don't want to hear a mf thing from Bethesda. Stop wasting all of our time, your two pet projects were both abortions, suck it up and now start giving the people what they want. That's how I feel.

I hated the first game in 2018, but after spending nearly 200 hours with it's sequel, I think I "get it" now and hopefully will enjoy the first one now. I'm going to wait for the native PS5 version though.

Despite the 8 people still clinging to physical media who will shake their fists at this, it is the correct move to combat leaks.

The fact that this is the "headliner" doesn't make me very confident.

My 3 favorite games this gen are Baldur's Gate 3, Kingdom Come Deliverance 2, and Elden Ring. Expedition 33 is an excellent game, but it's undoubtedly a notch below the 3 I mentioned, imo.

It's worth mentioning I played Elden Ring using Save Wizard, which essentially removed the difficulty and let me play it in Story mode, otherwise I would have skipped it.

It's crazy that neither of these titles are even playable on modern consoles, outside of streaming, which certainly is not an ideal way to play. Bethesda are so out of touch, it's not even funny. They spent a decade indulging themselves, making games that hardly anyone asked for or wanted, and now they can't even capitalize on what would basically be free money generated by the TV show. That's not even touching on how it has been nearly TWO decades between main entries in TES, the series that only made them and is the reason they exist at all. Even a straight-up port of either of the Fallout games would have been enthusiastically received and undoubtedly moved units. I've never seen an American corporation that leaves as much (potential) money on the table as Bethesda does.

I don't even care anymore honestly. Hopefully it's a good game, for everybody's sake, but Bethesda has released too many stinkers for me to have any sort of expectations.

@Balaam_ dude you care WAY too much about trophies, every single comment you post is some unhinged take on how you feel slighted by the trophy design of (insert game here). Have you ever considered just playing a game because it's fun and you enjoy it?

There's one "game" I've unfortunately come across called I Love Your Dead Grandma or something like that, hopefully all of that guy's games got removed as well.

Obviously I have no concrete way to prove it, but I feel like a substantial number of PS5 Pro consoles were sold simply because of how great the PS4 Pro was.

I'm just not into this style of RPG. I put 50 or so hours into Persona 5 in 2017 and have never had a single urge to go back and/or finish it. I tried Metaphor last year and got maybe 2 hours in before returning it. I'm happy millions of people love these games, but for some reason the art style is not for me.

This might not be a popular sentiment, but I hope this is the final generation to have "Pro" consoles released midway through.