This is freaking awesome and seems to be getting very little love. I don't know if that's a Dreams thing or a VR thing but as the 4th commentee on this post, it's a bit sad.
@RIGORR_MORTIS it's what "free" means these days. And interestingly, Sony doesn't call them free games, rather games offered which seems more accurate.
These are all NES ports of the arcade originals, right? That seems like a pretty important piece of information. A more thorough review might comment on which ports are close to the arcade originals and which differ more drastically (for better or worse).
@Scollurio your point is understood but if a disappointed fan awarded a game 0/10 primarily because it didn't meet their expectations, I would still consider that to be churlish and petulant.
Case in point, I "waited" something like 18 years to play Shenmue III and I was somewhat disappointed with the way it turned out and thought the ending was somewhat cheap. However, despite my disappointment I would still rate the game a 6/10 as I enjoyed parts of it, it was still definably Shenmue and even in my disappointment, I refuse to disregard the work of hundreds of people over many years and reduce their effort to a zero.
@Scollurio the point on the article isn't saying people aren't entitled to their opinions or it is wrong to like the game. What's it pointing out is that there are hundreds, if not thousands of people "reviewing" a game they haven't even played and have no intention of doing so and if nothing else, that is disingenuous.
In saying that, for anyone to have played the game and scored the game zero is facile or indicates the only scale of measure available to that person is zero or ten and that person is not capable of proper or fair judgement.
When did pushsquare become so toxic? I can understand if a game doesn't interest someone but to do the whole "I don't like it so it sucks" routine is immature and unnecessary.
@TooBarFoo fair points and you know much better than I do but I think we need to see a technical breakdown before concluding it will run as hot as you fear. I guess that might be why Sony is predominantly showing it in it's vertical orientation so people won't think to cram it into their entertainment set-ups.
I think it's fantastic. If i close my eyes, I can vividly recall the PSONE, PS2 and PS3 but the PS4 barely resonates. The PS5 is clearly going to be divisive and I think it will be a lot more impressive in the flesh, but I feel Sony have done a phenomenal job with the design.
@Rob_230 announcement on the same day? Sony acquires SEGA and all its back catalogue and proceeds to release ps5 versions of Shinobi, Outrun, Afterburner and other classics. OR SEGA acquires PlayStation and proceeds to... release a CD expansion and 32bit upgrade?
@Tharsman trust me, I'm not so high - minded to think that way and I'm always happy to listen to multiple perspectives and change my stance when wrong. In the case of the PS3 and BC, the proof is in the pudding - the removal of the latter had no negative impact on sales (worth noting that only ps2 support was removed).
Additionally I'm a proponent of BC and would be ecstatic if a fully-featured BC function was implemented. At the same time I'm pragmatic enough that if Sony chose to only include the purported ps4 BC and focus the rest of their efforts on ps5 software, I would not feel I'm being hard done by.
@Tharsman I'd be careful about the definition of heavily criticised. Certainly a vocal minority were upset but the reduced cost that came with the removal of BC (and other factors) did wonders for sales.
I'm an old-head and I try to look at things as objectively as possible. BC is a nice-to-have for sure but it's not a defining feature by any means (and I spend at least half my gaming time on "retro" games). If we look at the big picture no company has ever done it right over multiple generations although this is not limited to gaming by any means.
Your point about optical media is well-taken. In a past life I supported optical engineers so I fully understood both the similarities and the rather costly differences between optical media.
@Tharsman yes, obviously Nintendo's earlier consoles all featured different media, just as PS1,2 AND 3 did (the fact that they are all optical is noted) and BC is clearly an easier proposition in the digital age.
And you'll have to forgive me for forgetting about the miserable 7800 and it's 1 million units sold and an optional adapter that failed to make any significant impression.
My overall point is that it's interesting there has been a reversal in stance related to BC and it's really only this generation or the one prior that a big deal has been made of it (made all the more interesting considering how quickly games are discounted and how ubiquitous they've become)
@themcnoisy I think what you're saying is perfectly reasonable. Ideally most or all ps4 games will work on ps5 but if not, some potential early adopters will decide to hold off. No big deal really.
@Tharsman Nintendo did not offer any BC on home consoles until the Wii. NES, SNES, N64 and GC were all completely stand-alone and same for Switch if I'm not mistaken. In fact, you could argue that Nintendo were the first company to leverage their back catalogue and sell "remasters" of older properties. Sony led the way offering BC when no other console maker had previously done so (Atari, no. Sega, no). Interesting that they've changed their respective stances and this is the generation where gamers want to draw the line.
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@LiamCroft she is, but she ain't main roster though. Still a mainstay on NXT.
Re: WWE 2K Battlegrounds Roster Has More Than 70 Wrestlers at Launch
You haven't been watching wrestling for a long time but you know who Rhea Ripley is? Interesting.
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Still waiting for RCR to be released on the C64
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They really seem to be embracing the acquisition model.
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I think they should keep this look. It's quite abstract and would set it apart from all the other generic racers.
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@ApostateMage I see what you did there. Dual meaning
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Very cool. But if you gonna do Yakuza, then you gotta film in Kabukicho not Shibuya.
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Knack meets Marble Madness?! That's a whole lot of Mark Cerny right there.
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Wow. That is crazy.
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More importantly, what is that Astrobot doing to that controller?
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Shouldn't the correct title be "Sony Updates Future of Gaming Play list" as there doesn't seem to be a lot of evidence of PS5 fans being hyped.
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Nice! My favorite DC game ever!
Well, maybe. There were so many good games on the DC.
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This is freaking awesome and seems to be getting very little love. I don't know if that's a Dreams thing or a VR thing but as the 4th commentee on this post, it's a bit sad.
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Colour me interested.
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The apocalypse is truly here
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Well, Shuhei was on the Devolver Digital Direct for the Fall Guys section.
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@SegaBlueSky awesome comment
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Can't go wrong with a bit of F.I.S.Ting.
Actually, it looks pretty fun even if the art style seems to be a mish-mash of other popular media.
Re: PS Plus Has Given Out Over 1,000 Free Games Since Launching
@RIGORR_MORTIS it's what "free" means these days. And interestingly, Sony doesn't call them free games, rather games offered which seems more accurate.
Re: PS Plus Has Given Out Over 1,000 Free Games Since Launching
@MarcG420 some people just can't help seeing the glass half - empty.
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These are all NES ports of the arcade originals, right? That seems like a pretty important piece of information. A more thorough review might comment on which ports are close to the arcade originals and which differ more drastically (for better or worse).
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Looks amazing but will happily wait for ps5 version.
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10 hours is my sweet spot. So many games I want to play and if it's 10 hours or so, I might be able to get through it in a week.
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Speculation sounds like speculation.
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Love the joke at the end. How many times have you beaten this guy? 3 times. Feels like more than that.
Haha.
Re: Of Course The Last of Us 2 Is Being Review Bombed
@Scollurio your point is understood but if a disappointed fan awarded a game 0/10 primarily because it didn't meet their expectations, I would still consider that to be churlish and petulant.
Case in point, I "waited" something like 18 years to play Shenmue III and I was somewhat disappointed with the way it turned out and thought the ending was somewhat cheap. However, despite my disappointment I would still rate the game a 6/10 as I enjoyed parts of it, it was still definably Shenmue and even in my disappointment, I refuse to disregard the work of hundreds of people over many years and reduce their effort to a zero.
Re: Of Course The Last of Us 2 Is Being Review Bombed
@Scollurio the point on the article isn't saying people aren't entitled to their opinions or it is wrong to like the game. What's it pointing out is that there are hundreds, if not thousands of people "reviewing" a game they haven't even played and have no intention of doing so and if nothing else, that is disingenuous.
In saying that, for anyone to have played the game and scored the game zero is facile or indicates the only scale of measure available to that person is zero or ten and that person is not capable of proper or fair judgement.
Re: Of Course The Last of Us 2 Is Being Review Bombed
Who even has the time and will to post a "review" on a game they've never played?
Re: Bugsnax Will Play Similarly to Ape Escape, Makes Full Use of PS5's DualSense Controller
When did pushsquare become so toxic? I can understand if a game doesn't interest someone but to do the whole "I don't like it so it sucks" routine is immature and unnecessary.
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Gay sex!!!
Yes!
Space!!!
Opera!!!
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@Akurusu so why you come here?
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@Shepherd_Tallon I like it. Good advice. Thanks!
Re: PS5 Is Gorgeous in Person, There Are Surprising Features
@Blaster_master you've got your attention for the day so crawl back under your bridge.
Re: Gallery: PS5's Design Is Unorthodox But Unforgettable
@TooBarFoo fair points and you know much better than I do but I think we need to see a technical breakdown before concluding it will run as hot as you fear. I guess that might be why Sony is predominantly showing it in it's vertical orientation so people won't think to cram it into their entertainment set-ups.
Re: Gallery: PS5's Design Is Unorthodox But Unforgettable
@TooBarFoo why do you say that? It looks like it has been designed to dissipate heat from the top and the sides.
Re: Gallery: PS5's Design Is Unorthodox But Unforgettable
I think it's fantastic. If i close my eyes, I can vividly recall the PSONE, PS2 and PS3 but the PS4 barely resonates. The PS5 is clearly going to be divisive and I think it will be a lot more impressive in the flesh, but I feel Sony have done a phenomenal job with the design.
Re: PS5 Console Revealed, Standard and Digital Only Edition
@Makina good thing you're not a console designer eh.
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Nice! Can't ever have enough Astrobot!
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Someone's been watching a lot of Ghibli films.
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Donut Media. Nice!
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14/15 and the one I got wrong was Pacman World. I feel ashamed.
Re: PS5 Reveal Event: Sony Wants Fans to Be As Excited As if They Were in an E3 Auditorium
@Rob_230 announcement on the same day? Sony acquires SEGA and all its back catalogue and proceeds to release ps5 versions of Shinobi, Outrun, Afterburner and other classics. OR SEGA acquires PlayStation and proceeds to... release a CD expansion and 32bit upgrade?
Re: PS5 Fans Are Panicking Over Backwards Compatibility
@Tharsman trust me, I'm not so high - minded to think that way and I'm always happy to listen to multiple perspectives and change my stance when wrong. In the case of the PS3 and BC, the proof is in the pudding - the removal of the latter had no negative impact on sales (worth noting that only ps2 support was removed).
Additionally I'm a proponent of BC and would be ecstatic if a fully-featured BC function was implemented. At the same time I'm pragmatic enough that if Sony chose to only include the purported ps4 BC and focus the rest of their efforts on ps5 software, I would not feel I'm being hard done by.
Re: PS5 Fans Are Panicking Over Backwards Compatibility
@Tharsman I'd be careful about the definition of heavily criticised. Certainly a vocal minority were upset but the reduced cost that came with the removal of BC (and other factors) did wonders for sales.
I'm an old-head and I try to look at things as objectively as possible. BC is a nice-to-have for sure but it's not a defining feature by any means (and I spend at least half my gaming time on "retro" games). If we look at the big picture no company has ever done it right over multiple generations although this is not limited to gaming by any means.
Your point about optical media is well-taken. In a past life I supported optical engineers so I fully understood both the similarities and the rather costly differences between optical media.
Re: PS5 Fans Are Panicking Over Backwards Compatibility
@Tharsman yes, obviously Nintendo's earlier consoles all featured different media, just as PS1,2 AND 3 did (the fact that they are all optical is noted) and BC is clearly an easier proposition in the digital age.
And you'll have to forgive me for forgetting about the miserable 7800 and it's 1 million units sold and an optional adapter that failed to make any significant impression.
My overall point is that it's interesting there has been a reversal in stance related to BC and it's really only this generation or the one prior that a big deal has been made of it (made all the more interesting considering how quickly games are discounted and how ubiquitous they've become)
Re: PS5 Fans Are Panicking Over Backwards Compatibility
@themcnoisy I think what you're saying is perfectly reasonable. Ideally most or all ps4 games will work on ps5 but if not, some potential early adopters will decide to hold off. No big deal really.
Re: PS5 Fans Are Panicking Over Backwards Compatibility
@feral1975 they also played SACDs and had memory stick support. That was pretty cool.
Re: PS5 Fans Are Panicking Over Backwards Compatibility
@Tharsman Nintendo did not offer any BC on home consoles until the Wii. NES, SNES, N64 and GC were all completely stand-alone and same for Switch if I'm not mistaken. In fact, you could argue that Nintendo were the first company to leverage their back catalogue and sell "remasters" of older properties. Sony led the way offering BC when no other console maker had previously done so (Atari, no. Sega, no). Interesting that they've changed their respective stances and this is the generation where gamers want to draw the line.
Re: PS5 Fans Are Panicking Over Backwards Compatibility
@RBMango say what? So your advice to a tech company is to focus on nostalgia vs innovation.
I'm a big retro gamer but while I wouldn't mind if ps5 has done BC functionality, I'd much prefer Sony focus on the future rather than the past.