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Who cares? It’s a trailer for a game in 6months. Won’t get the game here any quicker.
They will show it when it’s worth showing.

@Skinny-Pete it is a Bethesda game.

But should the game still not be fixed 3years later? Theres no excuse. They knew the game crashed on Xbox so why is it ok to release on another platform without rectifying it?Other companies don’t get the same leeway as Bethesda.

Or the mess of oblivion remastered?

It’s about time MS got to grip with them.

There goes IGN’s 10/10 then!

So a 10/10 from IGN then?

Too soon?

I played it 70hours on release on Xbox. And ignoring all the issues and bugs I had (you either seemed to be plagued with them or got very few) -

It’s a 7/10 Bethesda game that I don’t miss playing. I’ve never felt the urge to reinstall it. And that for me is the most damning thing I can say about a Bethesda game. (I’ve done multiple play through of oblivion, Skyrim,f3/4/nv)

It’s a fine line to tread. £70 feels a tipping point for many. So sure you may get some that pay £80 but how many will wait for a sale?

Especially when it’s £70 day 1 and often it isn’t feature complete and quite often buggy. You no longer get the best experience. You can wait 6month get some updates and a cheaper product.

Fantastic game. Worthy of its praise. May not be the ‘best’ that’s ever been but it’s certainly up there in the conversation.

Said on the other thread.

It was the same on Xbox, you either suffered a lot of crashes or you had very few. So seems like they brought this over to PS.

The internet jumping to conclusions with no rational thought? Well colour me shocked.

I don’t know if I’d call it ‘right’ - they have made missteps. But they openly admitted they couldn’t afford to do day 1 games. (I know there’s the odd one)

I don’t think there is anything wrong about Gamepass either, sounds great getting day 1 games. The issue then turns out that actually you still then need to buy all the expansions/dlc etc. and obviously the cost of the subscription to fully afford this is pretty high.

Theres always a place for both, but I think subscription should be a ‘secondary’ income and not the focus.

@KillerIsD34D sadly it was the same 3years ago on Xbox.

Some people had few issues, many of us had lots of issues. And they still haven’t fixed it!

@KillerIsD34D the fact that Sony refunded some players, shows it is indeed broken (as we all know Sony are by far the worst when trying to get a refund)

Let’s be realistic here.

Unfinished? Certainly not, fully playable.

Unfinished is Starfield, Cyberpunk and mindseye - or any game that Sony (or any other platform holder) refunds you on. That’s unfinished and some of those are by major devs.

Should some of the things have been in the game day 1? Could some of it have been better? - absolutely, hence why it was mid 80’s and not mid 90’s in reviews.

This is the devs first major game, how many devs succeed like they have? Very few. But hundreds do far worse.

Should the devs be praised for listening to feedback and push out updates fast? Of course they should, it should be industry standard to do fast updates should your game not release perfect. It shouldn’t be wait 6weeks or 3 months or never.

It was the same on release on Xbox if I remember correctly. You either got multiple crashes or you got ‘none’.

I put 70hours into it. So I’d say that’s a fair crack. And it’s a 7/10.

It has a few highs, but it has many lows too. It’s just ok overall. So many load screens, so many barren planets, so many repeated bases. The ridiculously stupid power temples. But there’s a few good missions in there.

Is it worth £50-60 (whatever release is)? No. Is it worth £30? Yes it is.

My biggest takeaway is since I completed it, I’ve never had the desire to go back and play a game, nor do I feel I’ve missed it. And that for me is slightly damning for a Bethesda game. Whereas I’ve played fallout/elder scrolls multiple times.

About £800 (maybe require disc drive for extra £80-£100)

Helix (as more powerful) £999-£1199

Both I’d expect to be subsidised on release, perhaps the ps6 more as I think it will be more ‘mass’ market than Helix will be

Yet months ago they had the RAM to last. But still a price rise. They were making money on each console sold, this late in the cycle they could have eaten the costs to keep the price down.

The lower price was working, sales were holding up pretty well, consistently outselling Series consoles and even Switch in some months. That won’t be happening anytime soon as sales will drop substantially.

@Globo no one here is saying it’s ok. But you enjoy the console warring!

Absolutely ridiculous increase. Shameful by Sony. They were making a profit on console so could have taken a small loss.

The console was still selling and that’s going to drop. They would make more by getting people into the ecosystem.

Gaming is pricing people out of it. And devs are pushing for ever increasing profits

Shame no one will be able to afford the console to play it!

If it’s true that’s an absurd rise.

Once it hits £30 it’s probably worth it.

Put 70ish hours into it on release and it’s just well the most 7/10 game going.

It’s going to be a 7/10. But I genuinely do hope it is a good game.

Square go to wherever is giving them the money.

It was Sony with FF, forspoken etc, Sony doing the big marketing for them. Then they fell out a little.

So MS has thrown cash their way and Square have gone to it.

If Sony threw cash at them they would come right back.

@Globo they are the exact same practice. It’s just under different names. Sony could call them deals for you.

Both give deals to player A not to player B.

Doesn’t matter what they call them it’s wrong. And I’ll call both companies out on it. And when Nintendo do it, I’ll call the on it too.

Why should I get the game for less than you? Assuming all things equal between us?

@Globo it has it under the guise of ‘just for you’ deals.

These comments are proving why Sony and MS are doing this. Because people let them and are happy to pay over the odds.

I will continue to buy less via digital.

It’s £1.50 a month for a game. A game that’s usually £8 or so when bought separate. Then you have streaming or whatever other benefits premium offers.

Is it amazing value? No. Is it bad value? No. Is it meh sometimes? Yes.

The first one was decent. I guess this is a wait for plus/gp kinda play.

Minimum is £1000 without a doubt.

Pro was £700+

Numbers are always fun.

But they never take into account people who have multiple consoles that aren’t going to buy across both platforms.

They also don’t take into account if it means (example) 2% of PC players buy a ps5/xbox to play the games that aren’t available and in the end spend more money than just one game.

The numbers also showed for SM2 (think it was anyway) that it sold 700k…. But had 500k pirated.

@themightyant I wonder if this is Sonys way of trying to implement the ‘just for you’ deals on Xbox (admittedly it’s a bad looking start)

I also hate those Xbox deals

This is absolu Ridiculous and extremely scummy.

Shame on Sony. They aren’t in short supply.

Will be buying even less digital games than I do.

3years? Wtf where have they gone!

Was thinking it was 2 at the most!

It’s an AI picture. Look at Atreus fingers.

I think it would have struggled at £70.

This is a good price point to try tempt people, but if it was me I’d wait a couple of months and get it cheaper. £30 is reasonable for it imo.

Saying nothing about the show but that picture is AI.

Kids little finger is bigger than the other fingers for a start.

Sorry for all those undeservingly losing their jobs from this scandalous decision.

Honestly can’t understand the rationale behind this. And Sony deserves all the criticism that will come.

Monster hunter world plays well still. As does horizon zero dawn ( to name 2) on ps4

Why would people be excited to spend potentially £6-800 ? For what is going to be a smaller technological leap? Probably an increase in game prices and subscription too?

Ps5 works well. And considering that we still get ps4/xbone games released, where’s the rush?

All live service games should be on every platform. It’s the only real way to keep them viable.

Micro transactions aside the numbers aren’t huge for sales. Especially as it’s at a low price point

I’d be surprised for a shadow drop. It doesn’t fit Sonys style.

Call it now ‘worst SoP ever’ will be mentioned lots. Regardless if it is or isn’t. And it will be negative afterwards.

@ED_209 guess I’ll keep my eye out then. Ty.

I enjoy horizon. Both games were good. Played zero dawn 4/5times now.

If there was a single player element I’d be curious.

Thought it was debunked?

It’s from when Sony gave some accounts $5 or whatever

I agree.

How often do sites say X game is good then users reviews are opposite. (Case in point highguard for a recent one).

It’s also true of studios who pay for reviews and select certain outlets only - there’s plenty of let’s say ‘who’ (because no one uses them) that give 95-100 scores to games that clearly aren’t

@RBMango surprisingly that’s not terrible.

Compare it to something like horizon (or any game, this just popped in my head) and many have a relatively low trophy count

Assuming the reviews say it isn’t a technical mess on PS (I don’t think it will be) then I shall be buying it.

I’m curious about it, but it just feels like it’s going to be a 7/10 good but not great

Really looking forward to this and will most likely buy it on PS.

If it delivers what they promised then I believe it’s going to be there or thereabouts for GoTY.