Problem is always going to come down to price.

The next gen you are talking £1k per console (potentially more) many aren’t even going to upgrade for years.

So how many casuals are going to buy the next Xbox? Just because something may or may not be exclusive? How many will have already made the choice of console before they even realise this?!

Maybe. But if it’s releasing 3/4months later that’s lots that won’t double dip that quick.

Fantastic game. Drop into it every couple of months.

Ready for gt8 though now

I don’t think it’s as low as the numbers talked here.

But at the same time, I don’t see it being super high either. And MS will just come out with X million hours played etc.

I think it will come to PS to recoup some more of the cost considering that the port has to be 80% done.

Heavenly sword was such a good game back in the day.

Hellblade 1 was different, looked fantastic but niche. It killed them doing a second. They really needed to do something else with their talents, let alone a 3rd one.

Still they are talented and I think MS could have turned them into something different.

@Bluemoon2008 this is exactly what is happening. It’s much easier to get and hack their details than some random account.(wouldn’t surprise me if they are being hacked for other reasons too I.e someone doesn’t like them)

If not it would be a daily issue of random people losing their accounts + being sold in places. And this doesn’t seem to be happening.

So yes it is crazy that people can be hacked. But is it overblown? Most likely.

@Balaam_ probably because they are relatively close to release compared to something 5+ years away.

@Tulio517 you would be surprised how many actually have multiple consoles.

@get2sammyb I’d assume a good number have both a ps and an Xbox. But they probably have an S like me so most likely to buy it on the 5 than risk it on the S.

@HonestHick talk about fanboyism lol.

Surely gears also needs to sell like 6m copies to break even too.

Was anyone genuinely expecting otherwise?

It’s interesting. Xbox has never made a profit (according to satya) in 25years. Which is staggering considering it has a trillion$ parent company.

No one wants to see Xbox be wound down. Competition is good. But it’s amazing how they have got themselves in this position. Next 12months will be interesting as I think there will be changes to GP coming.

But if majority of studios have moved to ABK are they easier to keep as multi platform releases and then the XGS studios release the ‘exclusives’. - I’m also a little worried they are just going to go to ‘core’ franchises and it become a little stale and boring.

Bring. It. On. Can’t wait.

I really need to get round to watching this

They will just close comments on it.

I hope this is in the first half of the year

Wouldn’t be a big game if someone wasn’t moaning about a character in it.

At first glance it looks a little meh in all honesty.

Maybe some better pictures would do it justice.

Looks ok so far. The trailer isn’t super exciting by the halfway mark.

@get2sammyb but it’s what makes it ‘affordable’ people already sub to GPU/plus why not add £20 a month on to get the console or whatever

Funnily enough it was a ‘premium’ console when it was being designed. So it’s unlikely to suddenly be affordable.

It’s either bringing back the program Xbox previously used to spread payments or the even more unlikely helix has a cheaper version (series S)

@CielloArc because you still have the box to display? You still have the option to buy from a retailer at potentially a cheaper price and it does still give an option (albeit not as good of one)

@CielloArc are they removing a purchase option? Or will we just get a code in a box at a retailer? (Same for Xbox)

Good on Xbox.

Sounds like the next console will come without disc drive

I’m interested. But more importantly can they get it to run on consoles.

Gave it an OK. Was pretty average.

A few interesting things but nothing stand out outside of those already seen

So they’ve finally realised that a week was pointless

Ah the minority once again complaining about nothing.

Oh no, not Those daily user counts.

Sony announce their figures in monthly users. So yeah.

60fps and raytracing on base ps5 too according to reports.

It’s a 25yr halo game with no multiplayer oh and in the month or so leading up to release MS then turned around and said they are looking at exclusivity again.

So why would people clamour to buy it?

@Trojan it’s a Friday evening. Chill out, it’s just a bit of information that’s come out - and doing the rounds on social media.

Amazing how people don’t know this is how polls work.

Check the numbers after an election on exit polls etc it’s just not high numbers.

I’ll reserve comment till we know what it is

At £20 it’s worth keeping an eye on even if just for a weekend of fun

So many rumours about helix id take it with a pinch of salt. Latest one is they will drop steam to push people to Microsoft store.

Plus this is just a rage bait article yet again. As helix having a disc drive has nothing to do with PS.

@ItsAlwaysSunnyyy I probably buy more physical media than 75% of people who post on here if not more. Infact since the announcement I’ve bought 3 brand new. And I don’t think it’s great what Sony is doing. - hopefully we still at least get codes in a box to keep things competitive.

But I’m not stupid - a tiny minority online has no effect on the real world.

How unsurprising eh.

But will give the site plenty more engagement bait.

I’d be surprised if it didn’t. Especially as the other two are

Jeez push you really need to tone down the sensationalist headlines. It doesn’t read great. It’s like you are trying to
Stir fanboys/tribalism constantly

Especially as push has already on multiple occasions told us to expect expensive hardware and the fact you ran an article stating it it costs approximately $1k to build a ps6 currently.

And let’s be honest both Sony/MS tend to lose money on a console until later in its life anyway.

Wonder if they may perhaps pull it forward to the last week of January to get ahead of Laufey?

Vinyl is on the way up again. So hardly surprising.

Pretty sure if physical games had been trending up then they wouldn’t be cut.

But as always the internet wants to be ‘outraged’ at 2 total different things and divisions.

Not day 1 but down the line probably once majority of dlc has dropped

@get2sammyb PS could stop giving them coverage? Would seem a sensible decision at this point surely?

Not every bit of anti Sony disk debacle needs attention.

Would probably help at this point if ‘legit’ sites stopped giving the minority fools a bigger platform.

As much as I despise the loss of physical, Sony aren’t going to change their mind. The small online minority won’t change it.

Plus what other legit option do they have?

They have a library already on PS, MS is highly likely going to go all digital too (they wanted to before Sony) PC is already all digital. Leaves Nintendo, that are increasingly doing more digital and codes in a box.

MS laughing all the way to the bank.

Fools and their money.

All I’ve seen for a week or whatever is ***** Sony etc etc digital etc etc - then PS players are lapping this ***** up.

Shows how little internet voices mean.

I assume they will go code in a box much like Nintendo so will indeed have a presence everywhere still.

The biggest people to lose out are companies like CeX and regional equivalent