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I assume they will go code in a box much like Nintendo so will indeed have a presence everywhere still.

The biggest people to lose out are companies like CeX and regional equivalent

Simple answer is no. Neither is helix.

It won’t sell mad numbers but they will sell

This last couple of weeks just feels like both Sony and MS don’t want their consumers to be happy.

It’s a race who can see who can be most disliked.

They are on GPU no? That takes away sales

Poor selection there.

Well guess I won’t be buying day 1 releases then. Because get f***** if you think I’m paying more. I’ll wait till they land on PSplus. You can have less of my money.

Proper scummy and anti consumer. Seems like Sony is finding those Xbox rakes.

Honestly can’t say enough how disgusting this move is. And everyone should find it that way. Even if you only buy digital.

Edit - no disc drive for ps6 then. So I’d assume another anti consumer move with bad back compatibility.

@naruball the issue there is. It was barely getting infront of any extra eyes. So what’s the point?

Everyone knows Sonys 1st player games now. Maybe when he was in charge it was helpful, less so now.

And as always no matter what anyone says it always comes back to money.

Line must go up. Sadly.

I think like others this studio would get picked up. (Assuming it’s true) but I think cuts are going to come across most MS studios

I think this is harem scarem tactics from retailers because people aren’t buying them now.

This is why I don’t think Sony will increase prices for a while. They have to be sat on stock.

But it’s unsurprising that it’s dropped so much.

As there’s no better way of saying it - I’m
Glad that for a change some of the more senior people lose their jobs as usually that’s avoided

@Skinny-Pete ps4/2

@Skinny-Pete that article was a little silly agreed.

But in reality ps5 generation is making more money than others and it has sold less.

@get2sammyb I think it will be new year for next Sony rise.

It’s only been a couple of months since the last one… and sales have tanked hard so I think they will be sat on quite a bit of stock for now.

Honestly Sony have really fcked up this acquisition. They should have got to grips with bungie earlier and then maybe people wouldn’t be out of a job in a bad economy, especially with MS doing their layoffs too.

Sony deserve their negative press from this. I hope it’s not a major lay off. I feel sorry for those losing their job.

Hopefully there is enough kept at the studio to make a smaller game. I’d like to see a single player game tried, even revive an old IP.

I think may time.

With various other games moving to February it would make sense.

We just ignoring the fact that steam are selling their box at a profit and it’s niche, yet for every other generation both Sony and MS sell consoles at a loss? (Kinda the most important point being overlooked!) Thats why they retail lower.

Not that I’d mind the ps5/X generation lasting longer, I’d prefer that.

£70 with various special editions that cost more

Could have sworn this was already a thing

PS gave it a 6. And that’s about right.

I wouldn’t recommend anyone to pick this in their backlog.

Play something better and worthwhile

@theSpectre they are at fault though. They left them to it. The same thing MS did for many of their troubled studios.

I just delete a game when I need space. Really not that difficult.

I’d place my bets at cuts at bungie and nixxies going. Can Sony really afford to shutter them realistically? It’s going to hit future first party releases and there’s already grumbling around the lack of them.

It may well end up costing them in the long run for a short term cost reduction.

@Afroducc the explanation is quite simple. The shorter paragraphs means that there is more ads in an article.

I always thought the ‘we’ was strange. Even brought it up in the past.

But the bigger change I’m noticing is more and larger invasive ads (yes I know you need the money) but the site due to this is getting worse.

Makes sense it would do well. PS has a lack of shooters.

Wonder how well both Eday and Halo does with both releasing close together. Is it going to split people’s playtime across them?

This is why Sony can NOT afford to do day 1 games on PSplus. It’s just not financially sustainable for them.

Wouldn’t be surprised to see GP lose more day 1 games in the new year (they promised 75+ this year so can’t change before that)

I wouldn’t trust alinea for the good results nor the bad ones.

Pretty sure in the next 6 weeks we will see a huge HUGE marketing push towards Wolverine anyway. Plus Laufey isn’t going to be out for at least a year.

I’m curious how it’s going to improve.

They admitted GP lost millions of subscribers. They dropped prices and these games release into it.

So where’s the extra money going to come from?

Console sales are stagnant and helix is expected to be premium.

Makes sense they would be annoyed.these shows are made in advance and with a last minute pull out leaves no time to put a replacement game in there

I think it will come eventually especially as it sounds like it’s pretty much complete.

Asha can just appease the twitter die hards by saying she’s made an exclusive for now

I think all 3 were similar in quality. Very little difference in quality between the 3 which was a good thing. Plenty of good games across the board

IMO it’s quite simple this time round.

Sony wanted the focus on their games. With wolverine, tokon due soon and the reveal of GoW imagine if they dropped the RE trailer, it could have overshadowed.

SE and Sony have fallen out. That’s obvious and has been for a while.

It was 8/10. Obviously shows good games. But majority are 12-18months out.

It’s easier to show stuff that’s so far out.

Who cares? It’s a trailer for a game in 6months. Won’t get the game here any quicker.
They will show it when it’s worth showing.

@Skinny-Pete it is a Bethesda game.

But should the game still not be fixed 3years later? Theres no excuse. They knew the game crashed on Xbox so why is it ok to release on another platform without rectifying it?Other companies don’t get the same leeway as Bethesda.

Or the mess of oblivion remastered?

It’s about time MS got to grip with them.

There goes IGN’s 10/10 then!

So a 10/10 from IGN then?

Too soon?

I played it 70hours on release on Xbox. And ignoring all the issues and bugs I had (you either seemed to be plagued with them or got very few) -

It’s a 7/10 Bethesda game that I don’t miss playing. I’ve never felt the urge to reinstall it. And that for me is the most damning thing I can say about a Bethesda game. (I’ve done multiple play through of oblivion, Skyrim,f3/4/nv)

It’s a fine line to tread. £70 feels a tipping point for many. So sure you may get some that pay £80 but how many will wait for a sale?

Especially when it’s £70 day 1 and often it isn’t feature complete and quite often buggy. You no longer get the best experience. You can wait 6month get some updates and a cheaper product.

Fantastic game. Worthy of its praise. May not be the ‘best’ that’s ever been but it’s certainly up there in the conversation.

Said on the other thread.

It was the same on Xbox, you either suffered a lot of crashes or you had very few. So seems like they brought this over to PS.

The internet jumping to conclusions with no rational thought? Well colour me shocked.

I don’t know if I’d call it ‘right’ - they have made missteps. But they openly admitted they couldn’t afford to do day 1 games. (I know there’s the odd one)

I don’t think there is anything wrong about Gamepass either, sounds great getting day 1 games. The issue then turns out that actually you still then need to buy all the expansions/dlc etc. and obviously the cost of the subscription to fully afford this is pretty high.

Theres always a place for both, but I think subscription should be a ‘secondary’ income and not the focus.

@KillerIsD34D sadly it was the same 3years ago on Xbox.

Some people had few issues, many of us had lots of issues. And they still haven’t fixed it!

@KillerIsD34D the fact that Sony refunded some players, shows it is indeed broken (as we all know Sony are by far the worst when trying to get a refund)

Let’s be realistic here.

Unfinished? Certainly not, fully playable.

Unfinished is Starfield, Cyberpunk and mindseye - or any game that Sony (or any other platform holder) refunds you on. That’s unfinished and some of those are by major devs.

Should some of the things have been in the game day 1? Could some of it have been better? - absolutely, hence why it was mid 80’s and not mid 90’s in reviews.

This is the devs first major game, how many devs succeed like they have? Very few. But hundreds do far worse.

Should the devs be praised for listening to feedback and push out updates fast? Of course they should, it should be industry standard to do fast updates should your game not release perfect. It shouldn’t be wait 6weeks or 3 months or never.

It was the same on release on Xbox if I remember correctly. You either got multiple crashes or you got ‘none’.