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I’m going to play that game where you open the PS catalog, spend 30 minutes sifting through games, not decide on anything, and then go watch TV.

@Hypoman it will. They just lump it in with Pro. The Series X has 60 FPS so the base PS5 will support it too.

I haven’t played this since it first came out on Xbox so I am looking forward to seeing if it’s any better now. Glad it’s only $50.

In order for me to get into a Sony handheld, it would need to produce dedicated games. I would even pay $500-$600 for something like that. But without a true dedication to the handheld, I am not buying a smaller screen to play games created for the big screen. This thing still seems mostly poised for gamer parents who want a way to game but their terrible children are taking up the TV.

@wildcat_kickz I think it is the same for CoD. It's the same game with a new number. But it's still the same game. That's all I am saying for Destiny. I get the onboarding issues. I think Destiny 3 could have easily been WitchQueen – Final Shape and we could be on Destiny 4. But to me these companies are still building forever games because there isn't much changing from release to release other than artwork. I don't really know of a company that built a live service game, saw a few years of real success, ended it, and the built something else. All live service games (or at least the vast majority) either reproduce basically the same game with a new number, or die. Bungie is the prime example. The PvE live service king tried making a new game, Marathon. And while it is a hardcore PvP game that was bound to appeal to a niche player base, it is new and different, but it's very unlikely that game lasts long. Or makes its money back. Even Division 3 is just a continuation of Division 1 and 2. It's going to be the same game with new artwork. But a fresh start like you say — which I agree is helpful with onboarding new players. But I think all of these are still just forever games.

@Boxmonkey The games doing that were well established long before today. Look at Bungie. Destiny enjoyed being the live service king back when the live service model was gaining the most momentum and so it carried that game — and to it's inevitable demise today. And now they launch Marathon and no one is around. I don't think there is a taste for live service games anymore. Not the taste there was even 5 years ago. I think people are certainly okay with still buying and playing live service games. But they are more likely to tap out at the 40-50 hour mark, if lucky, and really never dive back in, and daily like used to be the norm. I don't think live service games coming out now or even a few years previous are going to hit the 5-10 year mark of daily log in players who invest hundreds and thousands of hours. Most people just don't want to game like that anymore. I think the live service model can still exist but it needs to be scaled back in scope and cost so that the games don't need hardcore grinders to make it "successful".

@wildcat_kickz Bro, you can't say GaaS don't need to last forever and then give the example of Destiny 1/2 and then potentially 3. That is all the same game just broken up. That is basically trying to keep Destiny alive forever, lol.

@Questionable_Duck No one likes to admit it but the best gooner games are actually good games first.

There is no gameplay loop hook. Like, I don't really care about the skins they chose to make to hook some people. I played when they had the big event that made upgrading everything easy for the Platinum. And within that 30 hours of play it was just pretty boring and bland. I found myself never having any real idea of what progression even was. I finished with maxing out a couple characters and I got to a place where I just didn't know what the point of doing anything more was. So I uninstalled and don't know of a reason I would ever play it again.

@Vladspartan Devs forcing people to buy Pro's? What are you even on? No one is upgrading to a Pro for this single game, lol. This is not GT6. It's not a console mover.

@Atreus97 I don't think you are getting everyone to upgrade because 1 game theoretically can't handle it, lol. If every single game coming out now does this, then sure. But as far as I can tell, every other triple A game that's come out this year have worked just fine.

@KundaliniRising333 This is just fodder for internet nerds. The average person playing video games doesn't care about frame rates and graphical fidelity the same way niche purists do. I imagine there are some drops noticeable enough to catch the everyday gamer, but it's not some epidemic the way people here are claiming it to be. Gaming news outlets have become the worst.

@MrPeanutbutterz Or just play this on a base PS5 because the average person doesn't sit with a program open on their desktop to watch frame rates...

This all reads like marketing to sell PS5 Pro's, lol. I am not convinced the average person would be able to tell the performance levels these articles are talking about. These must be the same people who watch Steam chart numbers instead of playing video games too...

@solocapers I could see it being no different than when you sign up for internet they give you an option to just rent a modem from the service provider. Could be similar with Sony. You sign up for one big deal, get the console included in the monthly price along with PS+ and whatever else would come in a monthly package deal. You wouldn’t own the console in this scenario. If you quit the service you’d have to give it back similar to an internet company with a modem. People would still have the option to just buy a PS, similar to how you can buy your own modem or outright buy your phone. But this wouldn’t be aimed at them. It’s aimed at people who can’t afford high tech upfront which is the majority of people with Apple iPhones and everything else most just put on a credit card anyways.

He’ll be on his death bed from old age talking about how he predicted the console would die for 60 years, lol.

@Enuo I think you need a break from the internet. Get some sun, fam.

@VenomUK yeah I don’t think hardly anyone is lined up to play either of these on PS.

@Vaako007 we all know why this game can’t really be judged fairly…

@SBBuds there’s a lot of unemployed internet dwellers who don’t understand EVERY company is using AI now. Even their favorite companies. They just don’t see it yet. Anyone ready to boycott AI better make watching paint dry their new hobby because there isn’t anything else you can do that isn’t touched by AI in some form at this point.

@Thrillho there is no shortage of people fired from any industry that you couldn’t find to say something bad about wherever they were fired from. I’ve never met a person who was fired and said “yeah they made the right choice” like we all haven’t been at companies were you went “I could see why they would for that person,” lol.

I bet a disgruntled employee is an excellent source for this too.

@Oram77 how? MS has been open about bringing their games to PlayStation so it’s reasonable to want or ask if this is coming. The studio that made Suros never said they were making it for PC.

Staggering the release makes no sense for Xbox. No one is buying Xbox’s for these games. Xbox lost a long time ago. I know they are trying to save some face but Forza, this, and whatever else comes should all be day 1.

It seems like Intergalactic is poised to fail so maybe Cuckman will move on from the studio and they can get someone new to finish the third part. Sony studios all need big shakeups. Sony just really hasn’t done sequels well.

Sad to see layoffs but mobile games ain’t it. Can’t image playing any of the titles listed here and the mobile crowd doesn’t have much of a connection with the Sony brands. No Horizon fan wants a mobile version and no mobile fan cares if it’s a Horizon game. Doesn’t feel like it pleases anyone.

@Kraven That game will be shut down by the end of the year so you know at least know that's the latest you'll start this.

@Andy22385 I don't think they dwell on pointless comments like "I will wait for sale" etc. I am pretty sure they have a team that sifts through comments that actually matter and then relay them to the devs. It would be a waste of time for the actual devs to sift through a lot of these trash comments. The people claiming they are waiting for sale are most likely just mad they can't play it right now for whatever reason. Maybe they can't actually afford it, or they really are playing other games they want to finish first. This game won't go on sale for a while so I imagine a lot of people claiming they will wait actually wont.

@lazarus11 I don't know if it's racist as much as ideologist. I don't think these publications care who makes the game as much as are they making a game that makes niche statements about culture for the select few yelling the loudest.

@Dogbreath The average person would never notice a 60 to 40 frame rate drop periodically. It's just internet chatter for people who want something to yell about. Unless you are hardcore into performance and constantly check to see what's happening, 90% of gamers won't ever really notice.

@lazarus11 The agenda isn't against Eastern devs as much as that they don't want to pack their games with slanted politics and preachy ideologies. So any game that doesn't have a story centered around those two things will only ever get a 6 or 7 from the main publications right now.

@Gaia093 I don't think the launch has actually been as bad as the internet likes to pretend it is. Millions of people have been playing since day 1. Patches will definitely make the experience better. But it's not as if this game was any kind of unplayable.

@UltimateOtaku91 I knew it would be worth skipping live when I saw Xbox in the name of the event.

@Ralizah they really are worth that and more given how much entertainment time you get out of them. No one wants to pay that for them. I don’t either. But the value is absolutely still there.

@KoopaTheGamer the irony though, right? Son, we can’t afford a $1000 console but here’s a $1000 phone to game on. Phones are such a misdirect because the price is buried in the phone bill.

I don’t buy for 1 second they will hit $1000. That would be a death sentence. This is all just hype to sell the current gen console. PS6 is still 2-3 years away, if that. Anyone who thinks the PS6 is coming out next year for 1k probably believed in Highguard’s multi-year plan too, lol.

Finishing the god awful Sons of Sparta.

I would be curious to know what controls are like. If they are intuitive then this is a must.

@Steeleye25 Lol! Yeah, companies weren't greedy before Trump.

@freddquadros The profits in the gaming industry keep going up though. So people are still buying it.

@Jedihillis What in entertainment isn't now? No regular person can go to sports anymore. Even streaming is out of control when you think about how many different platforms you want content from.

@somnambulance No one is switching to Switch over this. It's almost a completely different game set. People just wont game.

@Scottyy you won’t be playing video games in the future then, bub.

@Afroducc I felt the same. Other than the GoW theme and art style, this game is beyond average.

@Oram77 basically if you stripped the GoW name from this, no one would praise it for anything. It’s painfully average.