DrClayman

@Wormold Nah, way I understand it is once you "purchase" it on Plus, your account is locked out of being able to outright buy the PS4 version, same with all Plus games. So if in the future the PS4 version is on a decent sale, which you can also upgrade to the PS5 version for free, you will be locked out of taking advantage of the offer. It's a bit of a sneaky one.

A bit miffed that we can't upgrade FFVII tbh. I'd be fine with even a £10-15 upgrade option, but think that might be the first time I don't redeem a PS Plus game. If I ever want to play it, can't see any reason playing the PS4 version if a PS5 version is out there. And the PS4 one is at full price £10 cheaper than the PS5 one and comes with a free upgrade. I can also see it being priced cheaper at sales as well.

Just came here to be that guy and say that Black Ops is actually £65, not £70 😂 I know it's a small difference, but still annoys me that Sony is the only one charging that much and they're the platform holders.

I think what makes it worse is that they're the outliers. If you look at other upcoming PS5 games:

Back 4 Blood - £60
Deathloop - £60
Resi 8 - £55
Guilty Gear - £45

And Returnal and Ratchet are at £70, both SIE published games. It looks bad cause they are the platform holders, which means they don't pay a 30% cut to the platform, yet they are the ones charging more for their games.

Wow, people thought 7 was too short? It's one of the few games of the past few years I thought had very little filler/bloat and without it being very short. Been a while, but I think my playthrough was in the realm of 8-10 hours, which is a nice sweet spot.

@ShogunRok Tempting lol My sanity prevailed and I voted for Bloodborne instead.

No Knack option?

@deathaxe It's just a bog standard spinning 2TB HDD (used to be my internal PS4 drive) that I've stuck in a caddy. Thanks for your time man, I might try some of that.

@deathaxe That's interesting, I've stopped using rest mode since very early on because it only exacerbated my issues. The caddy theory intrigues me, it's just a normal HDD in a caddy, but I've that caddy in PCs and an Xbox before and never had any issues. As you say, could be a specific handshake/compatibility issue with the PS5 and this.

I've had non stop issues with my external hard drive. Half the time the ps5 boots, it doesn't wake up the hard drive, need to restart the system to wake it up if I want to play a PS4 game.
If a PS4 game is updating, I can't start playing a game cause the update will error big time and the only way to resolve it is to re download the game.
Also if PS4 games are updating and I even try to access the external drive, like check space or my library, there's a chance of the same error happening.
Especially frustrating when I start up, start playing a ps5 game, and then the external drive wakes up, decides to update the PS4 games, and all updates error cause I'm playing a game.
Rant over lol but that's mainly what I want fixed/addressed.

@TheDudeElDuderino I've got both consoles but went with PS5 cause I own the other 2 games there and it's nice having the complete package and progress in one place. The game looks amazing anyway, the difference is marginal as stated.

It's a bit annoying cause once you do the transfer, it overwrites any existing Hitman 3 progress, so you can't really start playing now and transfer your previous progress later. Hopefully it gets sorted soon, avoiding starting it until that happens 🤞

If anyone's still looking to buy ps vita (and PS3) games on the web store there's a workaround URL that still takes you to the old store, not sure how long it'll be working though.

https://store.playstation.com/en-gb/home/games?smcid=psapp

Eh, it's not ideal, but it's the end of a gen, a bit to be expected. You should all go back in time and play Skyrim on PS3 before it was patched if you wanna see what that looked like.

Honestly, I think the DS4 slightly edges it. The triggers on the Dual sense are great, I feel like the rumble has been a bit overhyped, but as far as form factor goes, I prefer the 4 just that little bit more and I think the D-Pad feels like a step down.

Sounds like this gen's touchpad then. A few first party studios will make good use of it initially, some third parties will half ars it, and most will just ignore it's there.

Andromeda remaster confirmed!

PS3 is the boss mate. Can use ps3, ps4 and ps5 controllers, no questions asked. Years ahead of the game, absolute beast, best playstation ever made.

I think as good as PSVR has been, it's also been a bloody mess from the beginning, really not well thought out. Using PS3 tech for the move controllers and initially coming out not supporting the Pro's HDR output, I had to constantly switch out HDMI cables depending on what I was playing. Then they had to update that, kinda screwing up first adopters. Then the camera that used a proprietary port, now people have to ask Sony for adapters. And now as the article mentions, you'd need to have two different versions of the game installed to get the best of each. I sold my PSVR eventually and kinda glad I did, really don't feel their commitment on this right now.

Looks beautiful but also kinda... slow? Not sure, wonder if it's 120fps slowed down to 60 so you can see every frame, since YT doesn't support 120.

I'm really surprised to read that about the music, I enjoy andrew hulshult's stuff as much, if not more than Mick Gordon's, I was really excited when I heard he was on board. I've got the dlc but not played much yet, I'll play and see what it's like.

@Woogy agreed. Don't think people realise how much faster it can kill your telly since it's always running at peak brightness. Esp with something like a menu that's bound to have a few static elements. Really hope you can turn it off and only activate it when needed (games etc).

Jeezo, what's everyone's beef with Digital Foundry? Guys are doing great work.

Okay, @710King might be coming off a bit harsh, but he does have a point. I've seen people complain the new Crash game was too expensive, yet splash £60 every year on lineup updates. As good as the games can be, there is zero need for full games yearly. We could start with major releases every 3-4 years with decent overhauls and £10-20 yearly expansions in the years between, with squad updates and minor features. But again, why would they do that when players happily pay full price every single year.

@Arnna Lots of people reporting on it a little while ago but, Wario and Nibel included. Was before Demon's Souls was announced, so it's as good as confirmed mate.

@Nepp67 Aye but it's probably true though. It's cause they want them to make Bloodborne 2. Sony's got the IP and FromSoft doesn't want to atm, so Bluepoint is learning the ropes with Demon's Souls and Bloodborne remaster. After that they're moving to BB2.

@Nepp67 I think it is mate. Bluepoint's doing that one as well. Was announced by a leaker not too long ago, along with Demon's Souls which turned out to be true.

Wait, I thought Bloodborne was getting a proper PS5 Remaster, kinda like Spider-Man?

Wow, if you include the crash remakes, that's their entire PlayStation catalogue. Way of the warrior next please.

@thefourfoldroot Don't forget there's also a lot more PS4s out there than Xbox ones. And the marketing as well to a degree, as mentioned.

Tbh digital cost me less with buying psn credit, around the 50 mark. Which I think is a fine price for a new game, never understood why the outrage for this being full price. It's a new, full size crash game, it seems platformers don't have "the right" to be full price according to some people for some odd reason. Except if it's mario Odyssey of course, and then no one bats an eyelid.

@carlos82 yeah, I'll give it the benefit of the doubt. It's also not quite release yet, so it could just be minor things that could be sorted out before launch.

@LiamCroft he does have a point man, 3D audio was locked on the PS series of headsets on the PS4, when it's perfectly fine to run on anything. Don't think that's being too suspicious when there's a precedent.

Ouch, that looks a bit stuttery for 60. Either it's struggling to hit that or the frame pacing is a bit of a mess.

I get that deluxe editions are nothing new, but the amount is still staggering. If you look at the most recent PS4 exclusives (GoT, LoU2) the standard and deluxe editions were at £55/£65. That has now jumped to £70/£90. Up to a tenner up for each, I'd probably stomach, but this seems a bit too much.

Sony's lost the plot if they're chucking in a couple of items and a soundtrack and charging £90.

This sounds awful. Don't get me wrong, that game would be straight up my alley, but full price and MTX for a rocket league battler is ludicrous.

I was always going to buy both, but now I'm getting both at launch. Not just because of this, but also in combination with game pass.

@Iroha Doom Eternal. The answer is Doom Eternal.

It's alright though, cause they did their research and decided 825GB is the perfect size 🙄

What if you run the PS4 version of FIFA on the PS5 via back compat when you wanna play with PS4 pals? Considering it's a free upgrade, you should own both.

My only criticism is on length, I think the game would have benefited being a bit trimmed down and streamlined. I think a lot of the time it felt one or two encounters too many to get to the next story beat. Took me 25 hours to finish it, and I would rather have that be closer to 18, so not a huge amount.

Aside from that, loved everything else. Story was brave and great, liked the gameplay enough, and contrary to most people I've seen online, I didn't find it a complete harrowing downer. The game was serious, and dealt with dark themes overall, but I found plenty of moments of levity and fun, and ended on a positive note overall. I had a blast playing through this, 9/10 for me.

@TheFinalBoss710 Okay pal 🙂

@TheFinalBoss710 It's a games console mate, nothing premium about it. Funny you mention that 450 would be the PS4's price today as opposed to 400, because 450 is exactly what I'm saying the PS5 will cost.

Anyway, you're not changing my mind, and I clearly am not changing yours. As I said, get back to me when the prices are announced. We'll see who was right then 🙂

My prediction is this:

Disc - $449
Digital - $399

Give or take $50, these will be the prices. I know a lot of you think I'm lowballing this, and you're welcome to come back to this thread with a big fat "I told you so" when that time comes. I'm quite convinced that's the region they'll go for.

@IronMike 599 pounds?!?! So what, they're gonna launch at 699 dollars or over? That's madness

@Ridwaano you've clearly not shopped for an SSD in a while mate. You can grab them easily at below £100/TB. This thing is 800 gig, and mass produced, so my guess is it will cost them around 100, if that.

And besides that, if they don't sell the thing, it doesn't matter. If the SeXbox comes out at 450, they will not want to be over 500.

You're all mad if you think Sony will go anywhere near the 600 mark. They want to forget "599 US Dollars" ever happened, they are not going to do that again. I can't see them going over 499 in any version, it's absurd. Especially since they've got competition to consider. Reminder, both the PS4 and PS4 Pro launched at 399 new, they're not going to almost double that.

It would also explain why they're shipping with a tiny drive, they're keeping costs as low as possible.

It's pretty sad really. PS1-3 had 2-3 new GTAs each! PS4 didn't see a single new entry, just a remaster and PS5 is getting, yet again, the same one doubly remastered.

😂 exceptional!