@Bad-MuthaAdebisi Spot on man. Learn to ignore all the noise. Destiny had a lot of issues, and still has a few, but the constant claim of the "lack of story" just amuses me at this point
To be fair, he said they had no idea what it was, using past tense, I'm taking it he's talking around the launch of vanilla. TTK had quite a bit more on the darkness (or the deep, same thing).
Doom VR, Wolfenstein 2 and Evil Within 2 make Bethesda a clear winner imo, dunno why most people are so down on it. Yes, we suspected Wolf2 and EW2 were in development, but the same can be said for Bloodborne 2 and the Sucker Punch game, which weren't even mentioned from Sony. Also, I like short and snappy, and the whole theme park theme felt like they were having a bit of fun with it.
No Metro Exodus there?! Anyway, from this list it's Destiny 2 cause it's more Destiny, AC Origins cause it's the Black Flag team and that's one of my favourite games of all time, and Wolfenstein 2 cause the first one was awesome and I love me some mecha Nazis
Yeah, it increasingly feels like E3 is the mainstream face of Sony, where PSX is where they talk to the PlayStation fanbase. I'm okay with that, but I do wish they stopped doing them in america for pete's sake. PlayStation has a strong international audience (and we were the ones keeping them relevant when everyone in the US was loving their 360s) and it sucks that year after year it's always over there. I wish they could do them alternatively, one year in the US, one in Europe, one in Japan. I really want to attend a PSX but I ain't gonna fly over for a show, as good as it might be.
I apologise if I sound repetitive, but a couple of exciting new announcements would have elevated this from alright to awesome. Don't get me wrong, it was still a decent showing, and I get that some people care about MH and SotC (again!), but I don't think these have nearly the amount of impact, say, a Bloodborne 2 would have. I just want Bloodborne 2, alright
What they showed was cool, but mostly stuff we knew about. Pretty gutted there were no significant new announcements, I was so ready for Bloodborne 2 and the Sucker Punch game. Overall, mildly disappointed, but a decent showing.
@banacheck Not at all, I would just like some consistency. Don't make a claim like that when it's clearly not enforced. Personally, I think each platform should be used to their full potential, it's not any different from PC really, the better your rig is, the better you'll run the game, whether it's pvp or pve.
@RedMageLanakyn yeah, pretty sure that was the difference, you should look it up just to be sure, Digital Foundry did a comparison video close to the game's launch.
@RedMageLanakyn Nice one, totally missed that! I'm sure they've said in the past they don't do it, but that's just classic Sony for you. Just like no competitive game will have higher framerate on the pro and Battlefield 1 runs at about 10-15 fps higher
The only reason this is going to Xbox first is because Xbox does early access and Sony doesn't imo. I always assumed it would come to Xbox first for that reason. As soon as it's done, I think you'll see it everywhere.
Hmmmm, I find it hard to believe that Sony would say no to this, they've had cross play in the past. Minecraft being a Microsoft property tells me it's probably Microsoft wanting to get one up on Sony. Who knows though.
Borefest. Men in jackets?! that's worse than Pele. A Way Out was the only interesting thing there. Interested in Battlefront 2, looks cool as hell, but even that got boring when they decided to have an entire multiplayer game that went on forever. 3/10
EDIT: NFS as well actually, I liked the look of it.
Yup, agree with the above, Nier Automata has one of the best game soundtracks of all time. Also Doom. Doom's soundtrack is in the background when I play any shooter these days. 10/10
Hoping to see Sucker Punch's and FromSoft's next games and confirm Nightstalkers in Destiny 2. I don't want to see much about tech (VR or Pro chat), sales stats, firmware updates etc, keep it about the games.
@xMEADx I always used to play bumper jumper for that exact reason, jumping with X always felt off. Sometimes it wouldn't be supported from the game though, or the remapping of L1 to X wouldn't feel great (such as having the ability mapped to X in TF2). Since I got the Raiju, I've never had to worry about that though, I've permanently mapped x to my left middle finger and I can still use L1 as it was meant to in all games.
@joey302 Fair enough, wasn't around that far back. From my experience, growing up in the 90s, I cannot for the life of me remember anyone expecting backwards compatibility with new generations of consoles, until after the PS2's launch. Could be just different circles, but even press didn't seem to make any mention of it back then ¯(ツ)/¯
@BLP_Software There's nothing Pro about the Switch Pro controller. No programmable paddles, adjustable sticks, trigger locks or hair trigger functionality.
@Cassetticons that's right, thanks! I still don't remember it being that big a deal, maybe because barely anyone had a master system at least compared to the PS1 player base.
@Brasilkilla It was never a big deal until, ironically, Sony made it a big deal with the PS2. Before that I don't remember a single person expecting the snes to play all the nes games or the Saturn to play all the mega drive games. Not sure if PS2 was they very first instant of that, but it was the first time it was such a big deal, every PS1 game can be played on the ps2. Since then, with every generation, everyone expects it. I couldn't care less, I generally keep my consoles.
@gingerfrog it's not just you, changing discs feels like such a chore nowadays, especially with "live" games that you keep going back to. I'll still get a single player single playthrough game if I get a good deal on physical, but I'd never consider it for games like Destiny, Rocket League, Titanfall etc
I like digital, especially since the wife got her own PS4, means I only need to buy one copy if we're planning to play something together. Even if it's a bit more expensive, it's still cheaper than two different copies. Add to the fact that Sony is absolutely killing it with sales the last couple of years, I'll very rarely get physical these days. Probably a 90-10 split as it is.
I've had the Raiju since January and it's really hard to go back to the regular DS4, I get some people here have had issues, but it's been flawless for me. The resistance on the sticks is lower and the deadzone smaller, which is tricky to get used to initially, but once you do, it's great.
@BLP_Software "Naughty Dog is probably sat wondering what the hell their predecessors were doing."
Well, they were building the company it is today, and if you think they don't have the utmost respect for the people who made a tiny independent company one of the flagship playstation brands, you are sorely mistaken.
Butcher for me, that game is exceptional, more people should talk about it. Surprised to see Farpoint didn't crack the list, heard a lot of good things.
I think you should cover every stupid rumour that comes along. It's far more pleasing reading those with the signature dryness of the Push Square staff than every other site that takes them seriously
@BLP_Software Oh I completely agree on that front, if you just take a look at the numbers, it's clear that the CPUs didn't get much of an upgrade from base to Pro, or even from One to Scorpio. Some people are saying that the Scorpio version will run at 60, but they're about to be very disappointed. I think what you're gonna see is a checkerboarded 4K on Pro and a native 4K on Scorpio. But sorry, I digress..
Spot on on the dedicated servers on PC as well, although if their netcode is THAT good, it's an easier pill to swallow than a 30fps framerate.
@BLP_Software Keep in mind that the cost of dedicated servers increases significantly with an increased player base. Yes, they might have made 500 million in a day, and have millions of active players, but precisely for that reason the investment for dedicated servers would be far greater than a game with, say, a few thousand active players per month.
Also, no matter how much they could have wanted it, releasing a game on PC with a capped 30fps is financial suicide, you're better off not doing it at all.
@get2sammyb Do you happen to know how strict that mandate is? I'm only asking cause in the video, Battlefield 1 is clearly running at a higher framerate on the Pro.
I've heard people say that San Diego started working on this as soon as they were done with Undead Nightmare, which would put the development of this game at 7-8 years when it's all said and done (and if it's not delayed again). If that's true, I am so intrigued by it, like, what the hell is in this game?!?! I hope I don't get overhyped/disappointed. But seriously though, what are they doing?
@get2sammyb that's a good point. I still feel like they could run PvP at 60 on both (especially now that it's 4v4) and PvE 60 on Pro and 30 on base. But yeah, it's not a deal breaker anyway.
@RedMageLanakyn I know, I'm not really that salty, I'll stick with the Pro. I can't play shooters on M+K and if I stick a controller on PC to play Crucible, well... might as well jump off a cliff Plus I agree, Destiny feels great anyway, but personally I don't care that much about resolution. Every game that has had a performance vs resolution option, I always choose framerate. That's the option I wish was there. Still excited for it though, pre ordered and cannot wait!
It is a bit disappointing, not gonna lie. It's now the only console shooter (of significance) running at 30, in 2017 that's not good enough. However, if someone can make a 30fps shooter feel as good as possible, it's Bungie. Still though, I would've like the option on Pro/Scorpio to be able to choose between 1080/60 and 2160/30 (which they are supporting).
EDIT: I meant they are supporting the latter (4K), not the element of choice. I can see it could be interpreted otherwise
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Re: SUPERHOT Slows Time on PS4, PlayStation VR on 19th July
Very excited about this and glad I waited, I was so close to getting it on Xbox. VR BABY!!!!
Re: This Beyond Good & Evil 2 Gameplay Proves It's a Real Thing
@get2sammyb Nah, it's a Switch exclusive. Remember that chat?
Re: Destiny Dev Had 'No Idea' What the Darkness Actually Was
@Bad-MuthaAdebisi Spot on man. Learn to ignore all the noise. Destiny had a lot of issues, and still has a few, but the constant claim of the "lack of story" just amuses me at this point
Re: Destiny Dev Had 'No Idea' What the Darkness Actually Was
To be fair, he said they had no idea what it was, using past tense, I'm taking it he's talking around the launch of vanilla. TTK had quite a bit more on the darkness (or the deep, same thing).
Re: Lara Croft's Latest Game Shadow of the Tomb Raider Seemingly Leaked
@Rudy_Manchego I'm with you. I liked rise, but didn't think it was as good as the last one.
Re: Feature: E3 2017 Game of the Show - Spider-Man
1. Destiny 2
2. Metro Exodus
3. Wolfenstein 2
4. Assassin's Creed Origins
5. A Way Out
Re: E3 2017: Metal Gear Survive Still Exists, Launches Next Year
I think I'll pass, thanks
Re: Feature: All the E3 2017 Press Conferences Rated and Reviewed
Doom VR, Wolfenstein 2 and Evil Within 2 make Bethesda a clear winner imo, dunno why most people are so down on it. Yes, we suspected Wolf2 and EW2 were in development, but the same can be said for Bloodborne 2 and the Sucker Punch game, which weren't even mentioned from Sony. Also, I like short and snappy, and the whole theme park theme felt like they were having a bit of fun with it.
Re: Poll: What Was Your Favourite PS4 Game at E3 2017?
No Metro Exodus there?! Anyway, from this list it's Destiny 2 cause it's more Destiny, AC Origins cause it's the Black Flag team and that's one of my favourite games of all time, and Wolfenstein 2 cause the first one was awesome and I love me some mecha Nazis
Re: Talking Point: Is PSX Now More Important to Sony Than E3?
Yeah, it increasingly feels like E3 is the mainstream face of Sony, where PSX is where they talk to the PlayStation fanbase. I'm okay with that, but I do wish they stopped doing them in america for pete's sake. PlayStation has a strong international audience (and we were the ones keeping them relevant when everyone in the US was loving their 360s) and it sucks that year after year it's always over there. I wish they could do them alternatively, one year in the US, one in Europe, one in Japan. I really want to attend a PSX but I ain't gonna fly over for a show, as good as it might be.
Re: Reaction: What Sony's E3 2017 Press Conference Got Wrong
I apologise if I sound repetitive, but a couple of exciting new announcements would have elevated this from alright to awesome. Don't get me wrong, it was still a decent showing, and I get that some people care about MH and SotC (again!), but I don't think these have nearly the amount of impact, say, a Bloodborne 2 would have. I just want Bloodborne 2, alright
Re: Reaction: Sony Fails to Score an E3 Hattrick, But Still Brings the Best Games
@RedMageLanakyn I'm with you, I don't get the big hoorah about SotC being released yet again. Is this really newsworthy for a conference?
Re: Talking Point: Did Sony PlayStation's E3 2017 Press Conference Crush the Competition?
What they showed was cool, but mostly stuff we knew about. Pretty gutted there were no significant new announcements, I was so ready for Bloodborne 2 and the Sucker Punch game. Overall, mildly disappointed, but a decent showing.
Re: Report: Konami Still Freakin' Hates Hideo Kojima
My warnings apply to you as well. -Tasuki-
Re: E3 2017: PlayerUnknown's Battlegrounds Will Come To PS4, Eventually
@banacheck Not at all, I would just like some consistency. Don't make a claim like that when it's clearly not enforced. Personally, I think each platform should be used to their full potential, it's not any different from PC really, the better your rig is, the better you'll run the game, whether it's pvp or pve.
Re: E3 2017: PlayerUnknown's Battlegrounds Will Come To PS4, Eventually
@RedMageLanakyn yeah, pretty sure that was the difference, you should look it up just to be sure, Digital Foundry did a comparison video close to the game's launch.
Re: E3 2017: PlayerUnknown's Battlegrounds Will Come To PS4, Eventually
@RedMageLanakyn Nice one, totally missed that! I'm sure they've said in the past they don't do it, but that's just classic Sony for you. Just like no competitive game will have higher framerate on the pro and Battlefield 1 runs at about 10-15 fps higher
Re: E3 2017: PlayerUnknown's Battlegrounds Will Come To PS4, Eventually
The only reason this is going to Xbox first is because Xbox does early access and Sony doesn't imo. I always assumed it would come to Xbox first for that reason. As soon as it's done, I think you'll see it everywhere.
Re: E3 2017: Sony's Clearly Not a Fan of Cross-Console Play
Hmmmm, I find it hard to believe that Sony would say no to this, they've had cross play in the past. Minecraft being a Microsoft property tells me it's probably Microsoft wanting to get one up on Sony. Who knows though.
Re: Reaction: A Way Out Proves Great New Ideas Will Always Trump All Else
100% behind everything you just said. And that guy man, doubt anyone will be as entertaining on stage for the rest of this E3!
Re: Talking Point: Did the EA Play 2017 Press Conference Impress You?
Borefest. Men in jackets?! that's worse than Pele. A Way Out was the only interesting thing there. Interested in Battlefront 2, looks cool as hell, but even that got boring when they decided to have an entire multiplayer game that went on forever. 3/10
EDIT: NFS as well actually, I liked the look of it.
Re: E3 2017: Gritty Sci-Fi Title ANTHEM Is BioWare's Next Game
I like the look of it, but unfortunately I'll probably only have time for one Destiny like game, and that's D2. Let's wait and see.
Re: Push Play: Top of the PS4 Pops - Issue 1
Yup, agree with the above, Nier Automata has one of the best game soundtracks of all time. Also Doom. Doom's soundtrack is in the background when I play any shooter these days. 10/10
Re: Talking Point: What Are Your Hopes and Fears for PS4 at E3 2017?
Hoping to see Sucker Punch's and FromSoft's next games and confirm Nightstalkers in Destiny 2. I don't want to see much about tech (VR or Pro chat), sales stats, firmware updates etc, keep it about the games.
Re: OMFG! There's a New Bubsy Game for PS4
What's next? Time Commando?
Re: PS4 Pro Controller Still Very Much Being Considered by Sony
@xMEADx I always used to play bumper jumper for that exact reason, jumping with X always felt off. Sometimes it wouldn't be supported from the game though, or the remapping of L1 to X wouldn't feel great (such as having the ability mapped to X in TF2). Since I got the Raiju, I've never had to worry about that though, I've permanently mapped x to my left middle finger and I can still use L1 as it was meant to in all games.
Re: Feature: Two Unannounced PS4 Games We Expect at Sony's E3 2017
I completely agree, these two seem like a safe bet. Fairly certain Dreams will be there, with a release window, but that's just a guess.
Re: Sony's Jim Ryan Just Said a Stupid Thing About Backwards Compatibility
@joey302 Fair enough, wasn't around that far back. From my experience, growing up in the 90s, I cannot for the life of me remember anyone expecting backwards compatibility with new generations of consoles, until after the PS2's launch. Could be just different circles, but even press didn't seem to make any mention of it back then ¯(ツ)/¯
Re: PS4 Pro Controller Still Very Much Being Considered by Sony
@BLP_Software There's nothing Pro about the Switch Pro controller. No programmable paddles, adjustable sticks, trigger locks or hair trigger functionality.
Re: Sony's Jim Ryan Just Said a Stupid Thing About Backwards Compatibility
@Cassetticons that's right, thanks! I still don't remember it being that big a deal, maybe because barely anyone had a master system at least compared to the PS1 player base.
Re: Sony's Jim Ryan Just Said a Stupid Thing About Backwards Compatibility
@Brasilkilla It was never a big deal until, ironically, Sony made it a big deal with the PS2. Before that I don't remember a single person expecting the snes to play all the nes games or the Saturn to play all the mega drive games. Not sure if PS2 was they very first instant of that, but it was the first time it was such a big deal, every PS1 game can be played on the ps2. Since then, with every generation, everyone expects it. I couldn't care less, I generally keep my consoles.
Re: Digital Game Sales Are Becoming More and More Important to Sony
@gingerfrog it's not just you, changing discs feels like such a chore nowadays, especially with "live" games that you keep going back to. I'll still get a single player single playthrough game if I get a good deal on physical, but I'd never consider it for games like Destiny, Rocket League, Titanfall etc
Re: Digital Game Sales Are Becoming More and More Important to Sony
I like digital, especially since the wife got her own PS4, means I only need to buy one copy if we're planning to play something together. Even if it's a bit more expensive, it's still cheaper than two different copies. Add to the fact that Sony is absolutely killing it with sales the last couple of years, I'll very rarely get physical these days. Probably a 90-10 split as it is.
Re: UK Sales Charts: Tekken 7 Lands Series' First Number One in 20 Years
The split does not surprise me that much, I doubt there's many fighting game fans on other consoles after Sony nabbed both Street Fighter and KOF.
Re: Guide: 16 Best PS4 Accessories You Need to Own in 2017
I've had the Raiju since January and it's really hard to go back to the regular DS4, I get some people here have had issues, but it's been flawless for me. The resistance on the sticks is lower and the deadzone smaller, which is tricky to get used to initially, but once you do, it's great.
Re: Champions League Final to Be Broadcast with PlayStation VR
Don't care that much about football, but I would have liked to have a shot at it. Germany exclusive though
Re: Naughty Dog 'Very Impressed' and 'Quite Touched' By Crash Bandicoot PS4
@BLP_Software "Naughty Dog is probably sat wondering what the hell their predecessors were doing."
Well, they were building the company it is today, and if you think they don't have the utmost respect for the people who made a tiny independent company one of the flagship playstation brands, you are sorely mistaken.
Re: Naughty Dog 'Very Impressed' and 'Quite Touched' By Crash Bandicoot PS4
CTR! CTR! CTR!
Re: Game of the Month: Top 4 PlayStation Games of May 2017
Butcher for me, that game is exceptional, more people should talk about it. Surprised to see Farpoint didn't crack the list, heard a lot of good things.
Re: PS4 Firmware Update 4.70 Is Available to Download Now
@B-I-G-DEVIL I just saw that as well and would like to know For everyone else, here it is:
https://twitter.com/PlayStationEU/status/869530095286923264
Re: A New PlayStation Vita? The Ridiculously Stupid E3 Rumours Have Begun
I think you should cover every stupid rumour that comes along. It's far more pleasing reading those with the signature dryness of the Push Square staff than every other site that takes them seriously
Re: Why Can't PS4 Pro Handle Destiny 2 at 60fps? Here's an Explanation
@BLP_Software Oh I completely agree on that front, if you just take a look at the numbers, it's clear that the CPUs didn't get much of an upgrade from base to Pro, or even from One to Scorpio. Some people are saying that the Scorpio version will run at 60, but they're about to be very disappointed. I think what you're gonna see is a checkerboarded 4K on Pro and a native 4K on Scorpio. But sorry, I digress..
Spot on on the dedicated servers on PC as well, although if their netcode is THAT good, it's an easier pill to swallow than a 30fps framerate.
Re: Why Can't PS4 Pro Handle Destiny 2 at 60fps? Here's an Explanation
@BLP_Software Keep in mind that the cost of dedicated servers increases significantly with an increased player base. Yes, they might have made 500 million in a day, and have millions of active players, but precisely for that reason the investment for dedicated servers would be far greater than a game with, say, a few thousand active players per month.
Also, no matter how much they could have wanted it, releasing a game on PC with a capped 30fps is financial suicide, you're better off not doing it at all.
Re: Why Can't PS4 Pro Handle Destiny 2 at 60fps? Here's an Explanation
@get2sammyb Do you happen to know how strict that mandate is? I'm only asking cause in the video, Battlefield 1 is clearly running at a higher framerate on the Pro.
Re: Red Dead Redemption 2 Release Date 'Doesn't Matter' Says Publisher
I've heard people say that San Diego started working on this as soon as they were done with Undead Nightmare, which would put the development of this game at 7-8 years when it's all said and done (and if it's not delayed again). If that's true, I am so intrigued by it, like, what the hell is in this game?!?! I hope I don't get overhyped/disappointed. But seriously though, what are they doing?
Re: Red Dead Redemption 2 Delayed Until Spring 2018
Shocking
Re: Destiny 2 Says Goodbye to Grimoire Cards, Actually Has In-Game Lore
That's great news! Although I do hope it's not exclusively in game, I'd like to still have access to it when I'm away.
Re: Yes, Destiny 2 Is 30fps on PS4, PS4 Pro
@get2sammyb that's a good point. I still feel like they could run PvP at 60 on both (especially now that it's 4v4) and PvE 60 on Pro and 30 on base. But yeah, it's not a deal breaker anyway.
Re: Yes, Destiny 2 Is 30fps on PS4, PS4 Pro
@RedMageLanakyn I know, I'm not really that salty, I'll stick with the Pro. I can't play shooters on M+K and if I stick a controller on PC to play Crucible, well... might as well jump off a cliff Plus I agree, Destiny feels great anyway, but personally I don't care that much about resolution. Every game that has had a performance vs resolution option, I always choose framerate. That's the option I wish was there. Still excited for it though, pre ordered and cannot wait!
Re: Yes, Destiny 2 Is 30fps on PS4, PS4 Pro
It is a bit disappointing, not gonna lie. It's now the only console shooter (of significance) running at 30, in 2017 that's not good enough. However, if someone can make a 30fps shooter feel as good as possible, it's Bungie. Still though, I would've like the option on Pro/Scorpio to be able to choose between 1080/60 and 2160/30 (which they are supporting).
EDIT: I meant they are supporting the latter (4K), not the element of choice. I can see it could be interpreted otherwise