Ratchet & Clank: Rift Apart Is Another £70 / $70 PS5 Game from Sony

Yeah... That won't end well.

Waiting for sale for sure then.

Game Pass is currently full of old games but if MS can start to add a lot of new releases, it will be the game bargain to end them all.

For me, £70 a game means I won't be buying digital. I'll buy physical games and trade or sell them once I've finished them.

I don't mind £70 if any post release DLC is included in the price.

No thanks, will just wait for it to be discounted at the end of the year.

I wouldn't pay £70 for any game, don't care what it is

£50 is my personal limit

I really don’t understand the sudden apparent revulsion at £70 as opposed to £60. Doesn’t make sense to me.
I wouldn’t pay either, or anywhere close, but still...

£15 is generally the max I pay (net after trade back) but I get games far past release generally due to a backlog of games I’ve still got to play.

This sudden abhorrence at the extra £10 is very very strange. Especially for games that don't release on last gen systems and so have a much smaller sales potential.

I've had a turnaround and drawn my line in the sand at £60. I won't be paying a penny more in future. Jim Ryan knows what he can do!

It's probably time to accept that the price hike is here to stay. I definitely don't see Activision or 2K going back on it now, and Sony only seems to be doubling down.

Oh, but if only this ushered the end to MTX like everyone said it was going to.....for f***ing YEARS. (Not that this game will have them, but obviously they ain't going anywhere for EA, Activision, 2K, etc.)

It’ll probably cost me $90+ with digital deluxe

Incoming outrage at the price... Shocked...... 😲😲.... We already know this all there games will be this price at least for the time being. We also know you will be able to pick it up at retail alot cheaper somewhere and those who have digital if you search around you can get great deals on PSN codes I got £90 PSN for £74.85.

Edit. I'm not saying I agree, just we all know this is thier price for AAA first party games.

We were paying this for some games in the early 90's, really not that serious imo.

I'm sure the game will be great, superb, but I've got to ask myself, is there not one title in my backlog that I could play while waiting for this to drop in price? Is this really something that I absolutely need to play at launch? It's definitely not RDR3/GTAVI.

Hopefully ratchet and clank is more than a 30 hour game.that would justify the purchase even more.word up son

why do you guys keep mentioning the same thing? we have known the prices since the start clearly what it is going to be.

Imagine dropping half a grand on a brand new in-demand console only to not play any of its premier games because you dont want to shell out an extra $10.

Just don’t buy on release. I’m sure most people have a backlog of games. Wait a few months and the game will be cheaper.

The end result will be that I just won't own every Sony exclusive on PS5.
I enjoy trying to get every exclusive on consoles to make the console price milage work, but at £70 I'll just be much much more selective. Considering I enjoyed the last Ratchet and Clank on PS4 but played it once and not really again since, I can't justify £70 for that. Until the inflated UK prices at least are comparable to the American market, I also feel we're essentially paying a £/€ tax which can Oomph right off.

Yeah, I’m not getting it until its price really gets cut. $70 is just too much. It looks cool, but it doesn’t look that great.

@Enuo But its not just an extra $10 for UK people.
Its closer to $30 more than other publishers (vs the extra $10 for people of the US......imagine your paying $90 for 1st party titles and you would understand the gripe people of the UK/EU have)

With me finally getting a PS5 in my hands I could finally play Demon's souls which I've been dying to play but my conscience will not to let me pay $70 for it. I refuse to pay that for Demon's souls, Drift Apart, Persona 6, Uncharted 5 or whatever else.

I will happily wait for sales, I have plenty of PS4 games to play with this awesome controller. Is too bad for me as I'm going all digital this gen (still bought the disc console, better to have it and not need it).

I’m cool with it.
You all probably don’t remember
Street fighter 2 on the SNES many decades ago
£60 that cost, for a simple little beat em up.
Now for £70 you stunning worlds with 3d graphics and amazing audio, haptic and trigger controller feed back, the list goes on.
I think we need to release these cost increases are way overdue. 1991 SNES street fighter 2 £60.
2021 ratchet and clank, HZD2, GOW £70.
Enough said.

I will pay $70 for a game that I feel truly demands it. That being said though, Rift Apart and Returnal are simply not games that demand it.

$70 is less than what some SNES games cost back in the day... Sometimes upwards of $80... That was 25 years ago.

@thefourfoldroot "Especially for games that don't release on last gen systems and so have a much smaller sales potential."

I was actually thinking that price guaranteed no PS4 version. If it was a dual release it could have probably sold for $40 w/ all of the copies they would have sold day 1 on PS4 based on the much larger install base. Even by June it could still be 80m to 20m.

Start at $70, let's see how quick it gets to $40, then $20. Then PS+.

I never buy games day 1 really but I would give SONY £700 for another R&C game

Physical copies of brand new PS4 games are always 50 pounds (and much less if you know where to look). I always manage to get most new games at around 40-45 pounds day one...

70 pounds in the UK is almost the price of TWO new PS4 games!!

I really don't have an issue with their first-party games being $70. Games are more expensive than ever to make and there are constantly sales and price reductions.

I rarely buy games for $60 at release because it is A LOT of money. But with a little patience there are always better options.

Pony up, folks.

Yeah good luck with that, people are saying its going up from £60 but most recent PS exclusives I remember were £55, so this is a 27% increase from the likes Ghost of Tsushima and The Last of Us 2.

It'll be interesting to see how it goes but so far we've had Godfall which nobody bought and Destruction All Stars which even less people were preodering before it got dumped on Plus

Since most cant find a PS5, I like many will pick this up when it hits $40. Unless I never find a PS5.

@Playstation
Every business has to make good money and so what if they do. The investment alone of designing say the PS5 would have been millions and thats before we start on production and employing personnel, health and safety costs business millions a year compared to decades ago.

@Dezzy70 this myth that AAA Video game companies can't afford to make video games was nonsense years ago and is even more so today, especially for platform holders who rake it in

@Playstation
Well to me they are overall.
Anyone complaining can go join the series x game pass brigade and play old games that I played years ago when they were revolutionary and new.

@thefourfoldroot It's more than a tenner, though. Most games sit between £40 and £50; so this is pretty huge and not at all gradual price hike. Saying that I would advice sniffing around for a physical copy. The Game Collection for example has it for £63; still high but not quite as eye-watering.

These prices are definitely here to stay. The way I look at it is that it's just a matter of letting those with lots of money buy at that price point so that the rest of us can come in and buy at a reasonable price when there's a discount. It's a shame that you don't get to play the game at release but the upside is that there's more high quality games available.

Why no mention on every 2K game then its a simple sportstitle and the free PS5 upgrade version for €99.🤪👍

@Bad-MuthaAdebisi You know exactly what I meant. Sony isn't releasing first-party games by teams of 5 that are built in Unity and they have always spent lavishly on their first-party output - and when they don't they've usually priced a game accordingly.

£70 is a lot for a game but I will pay it for some games including Gran Turismo 7 and a few others but I wil proberbly be waiting a while for Returnal and Ratchet to get discounted unless the reviews are amazing
I buy all my digitally but I buy PSN cards from Shopto where the cards are discounted so I save a bit of money anyway.

No thanks. $70 is too much, and I bet a lot of people will wait for a sale. This is one area where gamepass becomes an amazing value for day 1 releases.
If people want to buy it, that’s great. But I am thinking $60 is a sweet spot for some people, and even then... I got burned a few times last gen getting Street fighter 5 for full price, no man’s sky, etc.

It really makes me glad I am waiting a year or two, even tho I’d love to play astros playroom and demon souls.

@JB_Whiting
Games are still released at 40-50 on PS5. These types of comparisons fairly are made between the 60 and 70 games.
But yes, certainly games can be bought cheaper physically near release

@themightyant
Sure. But I’m comparing late quality AAA PS4 games and release AAA PS5 games. I wasn’t comparing to early PS4, or PS3, or PS2 or Spectrum games

In fairness tools of destruction and crack in time were 50 quid on PS3 on release, and as you mentioned, Ratchet PS4 was a remake of a PS2 title, which was always going to go for less.

Im not defending Sony btw. 70 pounds is an awful lot of money (albeit as a physical collector, i wont be paying that - loads of places selling game closer to 60 pounds already if you look beyond Amazon).

I think we need to scrutinise what is worthy of 70 quid though. I would argue Ratchet probably is. We dont know how long game is, but i would expect a longer adventure than say Miles Morales which was a spin off (with a price reflecting that), and will push PS5 to new heights not seen so far, being a real showcase for the system.

Sony need to implement a sliding scale depending on the release imo. I think we all agree returnal, as good as it may be, is not a 70 pound game, and should launch at 40 to 50, similar to Sackboy.

At least that way we will be best placed to distinguish which games justify the price.

Cross generation games should probably be no more than 50 too. Which is what we have seen with titles likes Resi 5, Assassins Creed and Yakuza Like a Dragon

@Playstation
You got to have some fun on here my fellow PS5 gamer.
Let’s agree to disagree, it’s our own opinions and all is cool.

I believe Ratchet and Clank for PS4 released at $39.99, not $49.99. I bought the game at launch. That's USD. I'm sure it was a bit more in other parts of NA such as Canada.

@carlos82
Wow I had a Sega Saturn, always remember
Clockwork night and Panzer Dragon.
Then of course a Dreamcast a very underrated console.

Not liking this price hike. I happily did it at launch due to this being the first out of the box. But now I'm building a backlog and I don't want to shell out £70 for a game. RE Village is £55 on the digital store and that is my limit.

I'll just repeat the same thing I said in another comment section.

I really don't mind paying $70 for these lavishly produced single player games that provide a ton of satisfying content and don't have any forms of predatory monetization. It's when they start slapping the $70 price tag on top of games with microtransactions, lackluster quality, and/or other greedy crap (CoD, sports games, the latest Ubisoft live service ****, etc.) is when I start getting annoyed. I would have gladly spent $70 on the likes of Ghost of Tsushima, Persona 5, Yakuza 7, Sekiro, and Final Fantasy VII Remake.

That's just my personal take. But I understand why the price hike is bothersome no matter the circumstances, and it's especially tasteless when we're in the middle of a literal pandemic.

I bought a physical copy of Spiderman miles morales deluxe edition with my ps5 and I am not overjoyed that games are getting that expensive there are some for which I close my eyes and pay 70 euro for, like Spiderman Miles Morales, Racket & Clank and Resident evil village etc

But for most I will wait until I can get them cheaper, also I also will never pay (and I will never get any pay eighty, ninty or a hundreds euro deluxe digital editions they have on the ps store that's just crazy!

At the end of the day there will be some accounts VP working all this out cost wise.
And Sony will be watching to see how this price increase goes at £70.
I don’t think it went well for GODFALL at all.
But there will be cost break points against sales all calculated out.
In time it could go down in price on release date in the future or stay the same at £70 on release day.
Someone will be doing cost cross over and returns on investment development.

@redd214

Paying more in many cases.

Chrono Trigger was 119.99 in 1995 dollars.

@redd214 yeah the SNES and NES UK prices were a joke back then, it's a start of a return to those days imo

I bet when this is released, the first 'What Are You Playing' weekend will be full of many people here saying they're playing it.

Yeh.. No.. Im waiting until its a lot cheaper and 2 weeks after RE8 comes out, that game looks much better and about 25 quid cheaper, I know what one im going for and it's not Ratchet sadly

Ratchet & Clank: Rift Apart Is Another "I'll wait for you to be dirt cheap before I think about you again" Game.
Why?
Because I have a huge PS4 back catalogue of great games that will play wonderfully on that PS5, and GamePass for that XBSX kick. I literally have no time for all the games I have even if I didn't do anything else in life.
I'm good. Even if they decide to price it at 99.

@TheRedComet

Chrono Trigger is an epic game though!

@TheRedComet yup I remember that one being pricey. It's why it's silly to me people huff and puff when prices get back to what they were almost 30 years ago after staying flat for so long. Look up what a house or a car or a gallon of milk was in the 90s and compare it to now. Just about everything EXCEPT games has gone up, this was inevitable.

Okay, is this supposed to ruffle my feathers or something?

If Sony keeps delivering high quality products then I'll gladly pay the price for them!

I'll wait for a sale regardless of the quality of it.

ratchet and clank on PS4 was £29.99 at release, not £39.99 - i checked my invoice and i got it for £26.. even allowing for the fact that the rift apart can be found closer to 60 than 70 on disc, it's still more than a 100% increase - not all of which can be justified by the fact it's a new game and not just a remake. i got a good 30+ hours with multiple playthroughs for the platinum out of the last one, so i'll probably bear the cost.. i'm fortunate enough to be able afford it, and aside from household bills it's not like i have much else to spend money on at the minute (and it doesn't look like that's gonna change in the short term), but i doubt sony is going to reach much of a target audience at that price for R&C to be honest, no matter how good it is.

retailers don't seem to be able to offer the same kind of £10-£15 discounts that they can on PS4 games.. maybe it's difficult to negotiate them with publishers at the minute, or they don't want to commit to larger orders to get better deals.. especially with PS5 shortages curbing the install base.

It suck, but I think I'll buy it new on bluray, play and finish it, and sell it again. Or if I really enjoyed it, I keep the bluray until there's good discount on psn. If the price is $60, I'll buy the digital version on launch day

@Dezzy70 If you still have your Saturn copy of Panzer Dragoon Saga you could probably fund your gaming for the rest of the generation, looking at the prices it goes for on eBay!!

@Medic_Alert This is going to be the issue long-term. Sony have to work damn hard to justify the cost, when Microsoft are dropping content for free on Game Pass.

This isn't a comment against you (your stance is 100% undestandable - why wouldn't you wait for a price drop if you have new first party Xbox content launching for free if you have access?), but this is why i see GP damaging gaming in the long term. As more and more people inevitably demand their gaming for 'free', its going to make it so much harder for that single player AAA game to thrive and be successful in the marketplace, if its not including some form of game as a service mechanics

@JapaneseSonic
Exactly my point, then again everybody just loves a good moan, especially I guess with the Covid situation at the minute not helping people’s spirits etc.

@Rob_230
Game pass is not all that. My subscription runs out feb 2021 and I’m not rejoining.
Lots of old games I’ve already played when they were released time ago.
I want new games not old games, that’s why I joined the PS5 new game eco system.

@Rob_230
No I do not. The problem with me is I move on very quickly when new generations of consoles are released and trade my old stuff quickly.

@JapaneseSonic "And then 2 years later they charged another 60 for the turbo version. People just paid it, and that was the 90s. "

That's right and there were people that didn't and couldn't pay it (myself included) and just went to the house of someone who did. Same thing here, there will be people that will be able to fork the money no problem and those that won't (also me included)...So what's the problem?

So what. Don't buy it at launch then. Wait until its cheaper. I've never paid full price for a game at launch un my life. There's always somewhere selling it for less.

I think $70 is reasonable considering the cost of games these days. Voice talent, motion capture, robust multiplayer and long campaign, regular updates, these are all things we ask for that developers didn’t have to pay for before. Of course the cost will go up.

The secret answer is wait 18 months and it will either be on plus or 20 note at cex. Sony will be doing the metrics on this but every chance you make less money by charging more and just taking yourself out the impulse purchase price range. Dont underestimate the difference 20-25 quid makes on whether someone throws a game in their trolley at a supermarket.

Makes no difference to me. By the time I get a PS5, the game will be $30 or less in PSN sales anyway.

I think the probably in the UK is games are normally £50 and Sony had decided to jump an extra £20 to match the US price whereas I think if they just raised by £10 to £60 then people wouldn't be moaning as much. Take sackboy for example, some people moaned about the £60 price tag but many were okay with it and with a big AAA game like ratchet and clank if think people would be okay with a £60 price tag. Overall I think £70 price tag will hurt many new Sony IP like returnals but big existing IP, i think will do okay with new price tag as people will still pay the premium as they know what there getting themselves into.

@Medic_Alert You make a good point re Sony and i wonder whether the answer lies somewhere in the middle.

For what its worth, i dont disagree with what you say either. Sony could have raised the price much more fairly, and the 70 pound price tag is definitely going to make me think twice before jumping in to new releases. How many more sales would Demons Souls have had at 50 pounds rather than 70? Probably quite a few. I only bought it full price as it was the first true PS5 exclusive. I've hardly played it if im honest as its not really for me, and i would have regretted it less at 50 pounds.

Time will tell which model yields the best results!

Sony have sales all the time, within a few months this will drop. First-adopters will pay £70 then everyone else will be paying maybe £45-50 in about three months post-launch.

@Shadow_Beast With any game, you’re paying for a licence - the cost of packaging etc. is negligible at their volume.

This is why an all digital future is the worst thing for a consumer.
If these companies want you to pay 90, or 100€ for a game, you'll have to cough it up.

Not quite sure why this article was even posted. Sony's first party PS5 titles, outside of smaller scale ones, have been $70 since November. Ratchet & Clank being $70 is not surprising nor is it news. Not sure why we couldn't just celebrate the fact that it finally has a release date.

And for the people saying they won't buy it Day 1, just wait for the hype to build with a hopefully State of Play for it and the likely really positive reviews for it. Not to mention the fact that this will be one of the handful of current gen only titles.

Not sure why this discussion needs to continue to be fed by the media, but I have a feeling this will still sell really well regardless of the price. Also, if you are actually going to wait for it to go on sale, you likely were going to whether it was $60 or $70 anyways.

@Shadow_Beast

This is exactly what gets my goat! When digital downloads first became a thing, we were told that this would be the future and it would be good for the consumer because it would be cheaper for them to buy digital and not have to go buy a physical copy of a game. And what do we have now? We have the identical price. Not very fair to those of us who are all digital, but for now I’ll live with it.

As for the original topic of games being raised in price? For as many hours as I get out of any game an extra 10 bucks is almost negligible to the amount of play per hour that I get. There’s a ton of moaning and whining going on here, and it makes me think that this site is just full of people who don’t have anything better to do than complain about the cost of video games! I feel like the people who comment on this site are absolutely NOT an accurate cross-section of the actual gaming public, because most people aren’t going to bat an eye at paying that extra 10 bucks for the new CoD or Madden.

Honestly, will $10 break peoples bank accounts? I bought games for the SNES for more than $70 back in the day. Were not NeoGeo games $250?

I already have Returnal and Resident Evil Village on pre-order and believe me when I say I did not pay full price.

I won't be paying full price for this either and will still pre-order it.

I'll let you all figure out how I did it.

Launch dates matter. I’m a teacher and this is coming out right before summer break, so BOOM, sold $70✌🏻

Sony can do what they want. I just wait a couple months for the price drop from now on.

R&C was the reason i wanted my ps5 day one. I was prepared to pay 70, but it is quite literally the last game I'd pay that for. BUT pushing it back to June means I'm mostly outdoors with switch (rip vita) and can really wait for r&c until at least Christmas. It missed my launch window.

Normally I'd still preodrer for a game i really really want. Not not at the new pricing. I won't be playing it until after they start discounting it... No reason to pay more than 50.

Though i think it'll be a long wait for ps5 game discounts. They'll wait to saturate the hardware market before dropping prices on exclusives.

There’s no genuine reason for Sony to sell this for £70 on the PS Store. They are already saving money from manufacturing, logistics, packaging, pressing discs etc. All of which are needed for physical copies but yet they are still cheaper than digital 🤔 I know it’s because of keeping stores happy who sell their hardware and software but still.

I really like the Ratchet and Clank games but when I do eventually get a PS5 I wouldn’t pay more than £15 for it, it’s a one-and-done kind of game and probably a short one at that, those type of games definitely do not justify being £70. Massive open-world games that take hundreds of hours to 100% or receives regular updates years after release, like GTA V, only deserve that price IMO.

I have to mention to the few who say GamePass has no new games and is just full of old games, well you can’t expect a new game to be released every single week and with GP at least it adds first-party games day one without having to pay a single penny for it while subscribed, you can’t say the same for PS Now.

With all these studios MS have been acquiring lately, the games will soon come such as Halo Infinite, Hellblade 2, Fable, Forza Motorsport 8/Horizon 5, Avowed, Everwild, Scorn, S.T.A.L.K.E.R. 2, New Perfect Dark, MS Flight Simulator 2021, State of Decay 3, Starfield, Elder Scrolls VI, Gears 6, Indiana Jones, possibly a new Fallout and probably other games I’ve failed to mention. All those games will release day one on GP. Who says Xbox has no games? You may say you’ll play them on PC and still have no need for an Xbox but you’ll still be paying MS for the privilege of playing their games whether you buy the game or subscribe to GamePass for PC.

I feel that if it was £45-50 I'd pre-order just for the hype. At £70 I will just wait and probably end up getting it for £20 much further down the line as I'll be so far removed from the release I won't care about playing it until I can get it for cheap. I don't understand how anyone can look at £70 for a game and not be totally put off. Every time I see that £69.99 (which still has content cut at that price too!) I wince in disbelief. I will never get used to it and I think I've found my threshold for how much I'm willing to spend on a game.

@Shadow_Beast

When’s the last time a game came with a manual?

Seriously I can’t remember. None of my three PS5 games have manuals and most of my PS4 library didn’t have manuals either.

At least at this point I've completely mastered the waiting game, I'll buy it for $30 or less, maybe 1 more month then usual to get there but it will soon enough. I have about a 1200 game backlog across playstation and PC anyway

Honestly, $70 for this and Returnal seem like a fair asking price at launch. I’d pay it. Alas, I won’t pay it because I can’t play it on my PS4...

Bro... I can’t even get a Ps5, wtf is this company doing?!

Even though i can afford a £70 game i wont buy them out of principal..you can obviously see that this game is top quality and very much a labour of love for the team but the price is too damn high and in a couple of months it will be below £50 on amazon and by that time it will have been patched about 20 times...currently watching demons souls on ebay...

@MaccaMUFC It's obvious that if PS5 owners accept the price increase, the same will happen with Xbox just like if Xbox owners accepted the doubled price of Gold then Sony would've doubled the price of PS+.

Both Microsoft and Sony's ultimate goal is to push the boundaries as far as possible without creating a gigantic backlash in the process.

I say this on every article of this ilk, but I'll say it again. Does anyone really NEED to play Ratchet & Clank, or any other game for that matter, THAT BADLY, that they can't just wait a year or two and buy it for £20, rather than £70? Surely if you buy digital, that's the way to do it isn't it? Most people's backlogs are big enough, or there are enough quality games they've probably not played that are always cheap in sales on the PS Store, for them not to need to rush out and spend £70 on a game on day one?

The only game that I buy each year at near full price is PES or FIFA to satisfy my football urge. Anything else, nah. I can wait and buy it for £10-15 usually.

I think what makes it worse is that they're the outliers. If you look at other upcoming PS5 games:

Back 4 Blood - £60
Deathloop - £60
Resi 8 - £55
Guilty Gear - £45

And Returnal and Ratchet are at £70, both SIE published games. It looks bad cause they are the platform holders, which means they don't pay a 30% cut to the platform, yet they are the ones charging more for their games.

@Old-Red I'm guessing that people who aren't getting turned off either #1 Don't buy a lot of games throughout the year, so the few time they do. The price increases won't affected them. #2 Only spends their money on video games, so they don't particularly budget themselves. Or #3 Have enough disposable income that they simply don't care.

@Floki you're probably right. Such a steep rise here in the UK and Europe seems like it hasn't been properly considered though. I'd like to see what it would be like if the US prices were raised to $95 comparatively.

It's a big shame really, as we should all be talking about how excited we are for a great new game coming out, but instead a large portion of the user base is just discussing how these games are not worth that much money. Most of my conversations with friends about PS5 releases come down to the crazy pricing and how we aren't as excited about the new games cause we won't pay the asking price even though we can afford it. It can't be a great pr system for Sony if other people are in a similar position.

@redd214
They were carts though, cost a lot more to manufacture.

@DrClayman This is also spot on. The games you mention can all be found for under £50 if you shop around too. It's a bit like Sony and the rest all agreed to dress up for a fancy dress party and when they arrived only Sony bothered to make the effort to dress up (probably as Scrooge McDuck) and now they can't change back cause they committed to it.

I don't think it's working out too well with pre-orders though, the online retailers are slowly bringing the prices down a pound or so with each release.

I have no problem supporting Insomniac. Game prices have been stagnant for a long time. And considering all the free support they gave spiderman, I respect the hell out of them. Now if it's a 10 hour game, I'll have to reassess my thinking.

@MaccaMUFC Microsofts track record isn't exactly great when it comes to this. Sony seems to allow the studios the time and freedom to do what they want. Microsoft bough Rare in 2002 and what do they have to show for it.

@thefourfoldroot yes, this. Only about 4-5 million ps5s out there last I checked... Which was a few weeks ago.

It's funny, people all up in arms about crunch and nonpaid overtime but are upset at a 10 dollar price increase on exclusives. You can't have both. If the game designers ever unionize, all games will be 70 dollars

I still have to play Spider-man Milles Morales because of the steep price. I can wait. I use to buy exclusives new but this take too big a bite out of my gaming budget so I'm going to get myself buried on older games and wait till a deep sale. Extra plus is that the game will be patched by then.

Makes people more and more wait for a sale. I am a Ratchet and clank fanboy so I might buy this one but 90% of the time I wait for sales.

like i stated a few days ago in my first comment.... this game has been pre-orderd for $50 CAD .. Boom !