Given how beloved Bloodborne is, it blows my mind how Sony/From are just sitting on that property and let it rot. Hopefully games like this and Steelrising start to pick up the mantle.
Yeah, this game is dead, calling it now. It's heavily multiplayer focused, which was gonna be a struggle to build a community even at a £60 price point. It's a given it will also be full of battle/season passes, microtransactions and gambling, and they expect to make this a success at a £70 entry point? Will love to see what the playerbase is two weeks out from release.
@BritneyfR_ee Nah, Naughty Dog has zero say on price point. Don't get me wrong, I agree that launching this at £70 is a terrible decision, but this lies 100% on the publishing side of Sony, not the developers.
@Deoxyr1bose I don't think they care that much about that. RE2 remake and DMC5 came out within about a month and a half of each other, and I feel there's much more crossover between those two titles, than between resi and SF.
Not saying it couldn't be as far as May, but my feeling is earlier in the year, to give people some time to figure out the game before competitions. Combo Breaker is end of May, I don't think they'd still want SF5 there.
That's because it's been bloody impossible to get a PS5 without Horizon! Been looking for a while for a 2nd PS5, digital only, on its own (I already own Horizon), and they're virtually non existent.
Fingers crossed this is a sign of licensing having been figured out and we could see a classics MvC collection for consoles down the road. Regretting every day not buying 2 on PS3 when it was available, but still ain't planning to get a 600 banger arcade cabinet.
Speaking just for myself, I've not bought a day 1 exclusive since the PS5 launched, refuse to pay £70, so I'll either do it if I've got gift vouchers etc lying around from Christmas/birthdays, or wait for a sale. Hell, even with sales they're often sitting above £50, which is ridiculous sometimes. There's games like Returnal and Sackboy that I would have gone for, but because of that I still haven't done so.
Again, I'm just speaking for myself, but can't imagine I'm the only one.
Man I've never understood how on earth people can play with concave buttons comfortably. Don't like bat-tops either, but I get that's a preference thing. Concave buttons look like a recipe for blisters.
My only hope is that they've gone back to the drawing board with this one, after going radio silent for so long, but I doubt it. If it's still multiplayer focused, solely ship-to-ship combat, I'm not too interested.
I swear I'm having mad Mandela effect right now. Not only I was sure this was already on PS4, but was also certain it was given out as a PS+ title and in my library lol
I do wonder if anyone knows if you're able to download the PS3 games on a PS3 as part of your sub? Knowing Sony I highly doubt it, but also can't see why not since that hardware supports them.
Pre-ordered both, thanks for the heads up! I've been looking out for these, was puzzled how they hadn't announced anything yet. I've got the DS trilogy compendium, BB+Old Hunters and Sekiro from them, and they are all magnificent, these will look great next to those. Shame they never did the Demon's Souls remake.
Everything in that wording screams MMO to me. Can't tell if it's a good or a bad idea, I guess we'll see. But considering how long it's taking and them saying it's their biggest game to date, can't see it being anything else.
@twitchtvpat 🤷♂️ dunno mate, I see that side by side with the original and can't see much changed. Put RE2 remake side by side with the original and see what that looks like. And even that was £45, not £70.
Ooooooft. I love the game but this looks like barely an upgrade from the 60fps PS4 version, let alone a full £70 game. Only way I'd excuse it is if there's a £10 or so upgrade path for existing owners.
I feel for Capcom, and for people who didn't want to be spoiled but were anyway because it was all over the place. Personally I don't mind that much knowing the full roster in advance, I actively searched for the leak when I heard it was out there.
That being said, I think what's been leaked looks sick as hell. Love the design, the choices, the number of fighters (if this is base roster). I think it's done more good than bad, luckily.
Yeah, don't mind that being there. IMO the new control scheme will have you at a disadvantage at even low-to-mid level play (3 less normals, basic combos), but hopefully as you mention, it works as a gateway for folk. If you've not played before and get a taste because of the easier controls, and then you want to delve more seriously into it, it still brings new people in. Everybody wins.
Much to my disappointment, I find it very hard to believe that Sony cares at all about Killzone. Especially since they've not put a single Killzone title up on the new PS Plus tiers, can't see any legal issues with that considering they're first party.
I'd love a Tomb Raider classics collection. Don't think I'd want a remaster/remake treatment, I'd prefer something along the mega Man collections, just authentic as possible ports, with things like rewind features, museum galleries etc.
5 mil copies in 3 months, almost a decade from release is a staggering stat. GTA6 better be damn near flawless with all that money they're piling up. At the very least they can fix their controls (you'd hope!)
I still prefer the DS4, that's probably my favourite of all time. It's just a much better fit for my hands, I find the DualSense a bit too big and weirdly shaped. Can't believe they had the DualShock 2 and not the 4 on the vote though, that seems weird.
@PenguinL Huh, nice one! Might have a look, I've not paid any attention to it cause I was sure it was an MMO, I could swear that was the case at some point, maybe they changed it. Or maybe I just dreamt it 😂
@PapaGlitch Nah, that's a fair question to ask tbh. Can't say I know too much about the in game economies of Dreams or LBP, but I don't believe you can cash out, or monetise your creations in those games. Roblox is marketed directly at children, and makes a point of "you can make money" from this. You can directly sell your creations and Roblox earns a very significant chunk of it at every step of the process
That's not to say I agree completely with the games you brought up, there's issues there for sure in the grand scheme of things, although maybe a bit more indirectly? All that Dreams can do is sell more copies of the game, and yes, if there's a big community making creations in it, that collectively helps them, but it doesn't incentivise work for profit I guess? Definitely worth a discussion though.
@lolwhatno There's a lot to it, so I'd recommend either watching those docs or reading up on it. The gist of it is it doesn't happen directly on the platform, kids are recruited externally through Discord groups etc, so Roblox washes its hands off. There's multiple issues with that, recruiters profit directly from that and since nothing is official (contracts etc), they can be let go after months of work with nothing to show.
That's just one aspect of it, but it has other repercussions, The way creators and the in game economy works (basically scrip), means Roblox makes huge profits from every transaction, so while they say they provide a safe environment, they stop just short of enforcing anything of significance since it will hurt their pocket in the end.
Definitely worth looking into at the very least, there's a lot more to it, and I'm not as eloquent as actual journalists that have covered the subject!
@lolwhatno There's some pretty shady stuff around Roblox, was quite happy it was being kept away from PS platforms so far. People Make Games have done 2 excellent videos on the subject, and there's various articles covering the same points if you dig a little bit. Unfortunately it's something that's often overlooked
That doesn't surprise me in the slightest, JoJo has been literally exploding in popularity in the past few years. Also explains why they'd remaster this, don't get me wrong, I don't think it's a bad game at all, but not exactly one people have been screaming about to revive (hello MvC2).
@get2sammyb Is that confirmed about the Online, that if you claim it in the first three months you own it afterwards? I always assumed when they said "free for 3 months" that it's just that, free for three months and you'll need to buy it after that, kinda like those free weekends they do for some games but extended.
I'd be more surprised if there is an upgrade path than if there isn't. They did the same thing from PS3 to PS4. It's probably gonna top the charts regardless for a few more years, so they'll milk that all they can.
@get2sammyb I wouldn't go that far, the last two games they did were Nier: Automata and Astral Chain, both outstanding games in my opinion. They've misstepped in the past, I'm sure once Bayo 3 comes out we'll forget Babylon's Fall ever existed.
Will probably be on Horizon for a while, but planning to tackle this next. Although all the performance reviews might make me hold off a bit longer, either for a patch, or a decent mod on PC.
@KilloWertz Yeah, 100% loving the game. As bad as that shimerring issue is, and a lot of jankiness tbh, it doesn't take away from how good the game is. Even the 30fps mode, which I struggle sometimes with in other games, is rock solid and well handled in terms of motion blur and effects to make it less jarring.
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Re: Deliciously Dark Soulslike Lies of P Gets 40 Minutes of Director's Cut Gameplay
Given how beloved Bloodborne is, it blows my mind how Sony/From are just sitting on that property and let it rot. Hopefully games like this and Steelrising start to pick up the mantle.
Re: Ubisoft Joins $70 Game Train, Skull and Bones the First
Yeah, this game is dead, calling it now. It's heavily multiplayer focused, which was gonna be a struggle to build a community even at a £60 price point. It's a given it will also be full of battle/season passes, microtransactions and gambling, and they expect to make this a success at a £70 entry point? Will love to see what the playerbase is two weeks out from release.
Re: Assassin's Creed Mirage May Be Rated Adults Only Due to Real Gambling
I mean, could there just be heavy shaggin?
Re: Digital Foundry Tech Review Shows Just How Far The Last of Us: Part I Has Come
@BritneyfR_ee Nah, Naughty Dog has zero say on price point. Don't get me wrong, I agree that launching this at £70 is a terrible decision, but this lies 100% on the publishing side of Sony, not the developers.
Re: The Last of Us: Part I (PS5) - A Better, More Beautiful Remake of a Modern Classic
Will probably grab it a few years down the line if they ever heavily discount it, but at £70 it's a hard no.
Re: UK Sales Charts: Horizon Forbidden West on Top Again Due to PS5 Bundle
This gereration's Wii Sports lol
Re: Capcom Reveals Two TGS Events, One for Street Fighter 6
@Deoxyr1bose I don't think they care that much about that. RE2 remake and DMC5 came out within about a month and a half of each other, and I feel there's much more crossover between those two titles, than between resi and SF.
Not saying it couldn't be as far as May, but my feeling is earlier in the year, to give people some time to figure out the game before competitions. Combo Breaker is end of May, I don't think they'd still want SF5 there.
Re: Capcom Reveals Two TGS Events, One for Street Fighter 6
@Deoxyr1bose I'd put money on it releasing Feb-Mar next year
Re: Half of All Recent PS5 Sales Bundled with Horizon Forbidden West in UK
That's because it's been bloody impossible to get a PS5 without Horizon! Been looking for a while for a 2nd PS5, digital only, on its own (I already own Horizon), and they're virtually non existent.
Re: It May Be Time for You to Buy an Arcade Cabinet
Fingers crossed this is a sign of licensing having been figured out and we could see a classics MvC collection for consoles down the road. Regretting every day not buying 2 on PS3 when it was available, but still ain't planning to get a 600 banger arcade cabinet.
Re: Sony to Take Action as PS5, PS4 Owners Play Less Than Anticipated
Speaking just for myself, I've not bought a day 1 exclusive since the PS5 launched, refuse to pay £70, so I'll either do it if I've got gift vouchers etc lying around from Christmas/birthdays, or wait for a sale. Hell, even with sales they're often sitting above £50, which is ridiculous sometimes. There's games like Returnal and Sackboy that I would have gone for, but because of that I still haven't done so.
Again, I'm just speaking for myself, but can't imagine I'm the only one.
Re: Random: Sony Bend's Bespoke Office Arcade Cabinet Has Us Green with Envy
Man I've never understood how on earth people can play with concave buttons comfortably. Don't like bat-tops either, but I get that's a preference thing. Concave buttons look like a recipe for blisters.
Re: Jade Raymond's Haven Studios Catches the Attention of PS5, PS4 Architect Mark Cerny
If Cerny is involved that can only mean one thing.
Knack 3 confirmed!!
Re: Skull & Bones Reportedly Setting Sail in November, News Next Week
My only hope is that they've gone back to the drawing board with this one, after going radio silent for so long, but I doubt it. If it's still multiplayer focused, solely ship-to-ship combat, I'm not too interested.
Re: Into the Breach PS5, PS4 Ports in 'the Realm of Possibility'
I swear I'm having mad Mandela effect right now. Not only I was sure this was already on PS4, but was also certain it was given out as a PS+ title and in my library lol
Re: Sony Exceeds PS Plus Promise with Over 800 Games Across New Tiers
@Kooky_Daisuke Agreed about the PS3 downloads.
I do wonder if anyone knows if you're able to download the PS3 games on a PS3 as part of your sub? Knowing Sony I highly doubt it, but also can't see why not since that hardware supports them.
Re: Official Elden Ring Strategy Guides are Glorious and Now Available to Preorder, Currently Discounted
Pre-ordered both, thanks for the heads up! I've been looking out for these, was puzzled how they hadn't announced anything yet. I've got the DS trilogy compendium, BB+Old Hunters and Sekiro from them, and they are all magnificent, these will look great next to those. Shame they never did the Demon's Souls remake.
Re: What Do We Know About The Last of Us Multiplayer for PS5?
Everything in that wording screams MMO to me. Can't tell if it's a good or a bad idea, I guess we'll see. But considering how long it's taking and them saying it's their biggest game to date, can't see it being anything else.
Re: The Last of Us: Part I PS5 Trailer Gives Us Our First Taste of Naughty Dog's Remake
@twitchtvpat 🤷♂️ dunno mate, I see that side by side with the original and can't see much changed. Put RE2 remake side by side with the original and see what that looks like. And even that was £45, not £70.
Re: The Last of Us: Part I PS5 Trailer Gives Us Our First Taste of Naughty Dog's Remake
Ooooooft. I love the game but this looks like barely an upgrade from the 60fps PS4 version, let alone a full £70 game. Only way I'd excuse it is if there's a £10 or so upgrade path for existing owners.
Re: Massive Street Fighter 6 Leaks Acknowledged by Capcom
I feel for Capcom, and for people who didn't want to be spoiled but were anyway because it was all over the place. Personally I don't mind that much knowing the full roster in advance, I actively searched for the leak when I heard it was out there.
That being said, I think what's been leaked looks sick as hell. Love the design, the choices, the number of fighters (if this is base roster). I think it's done more good than bad, luckily.
Re: Street Fighter 6 PS5, PS4 Introduces More Accessible Controls for Newcomers
Yeah, don't mind that being there. IMO the new control scheme will have you at a disadvantage at even low-to-mid level play (3 less normals, basic combos), but hopefully as you mention, it works as a gateway for folk. If you've not played before and get a taste because of the easier controls, and then you want to delve more seriously into it, it still brings new people in. Everybody wins.
Re: Rumour: Killzone VR Was in Development, Could Have Switched to PSVR2
Much to my disappointment, I find it very hard to believe that Sony cares at all about Killzone. Especially since they've not put a single Killzone title up on the new PS Plus tiers, can't see any legal issues with that considering they're first party.
Re: Tomb Raider, Deus Ex Remakes and Remasters Could Come to PS5, PS4
I'd love a Tomb Raider classics collection. Don't think I'd want a remaster/remake treatment, I'd prefer something along the mega Man collections, just authentic as possible ports, with things like rewind features, museum galleries etc.
Re: GTA 5 on PS5 Sells Even Better Than Expected
5 mil copies in 3 months, almost a decade from release is a staggering stat. GTA6 better be damn near flawless with all that money they're piling up. At the very least they can fix their controls (you'd hope!)
Re: Best FPS Games on PS5
You all are aware Quake is on PS5, right?
Re: PS3 Emulation Allegedly in Production for PS5
I only want to see this happen to see the reaction of all those that are banging on about architecture nonsense excuses.
Re: PS5's DualSense Dubbed the Best Controller of All Time in Public Vote
I still prefer the DS4, that's probably my favourite of all time. It's just a much better fit for my hands, I find the DualSense a bit too big and weirdly shaped. Can't believe they had the DualShock 2 and not the 4 on the vote though, that seems weird.
Re: New PS5 Firmware Update Available Now, Overhauls Parties, Lets You Pin Games, Much More
@Bu1ld0g Pretty much lol I wanna say PS4 took 3-4 years off the top of my head, but we're splitting hairs here, equally as ridiculous regardless
Re: New PS5 Firmware Update Available Now, Overhauls Parties, Lets You Pin Games, Much More
@thefourfoldroot Yes, half a decade later 😂
Re: Sony Acquires Haven Studios, the New Developer Led By Jade Raymond
Sony doubling down on live service games after Gran Turismo's stellar reception.
Re: Hogwarts Legacy Will Be Free of Microtransactions
@PenguinL Huh, nice one! Might have a look, I've not paid any attention to it cause I was sure it was an MMO, I could swear that was the case at some point, maybe they changed it. Or maybe I just dreamt it 😂
Re: Hogwarts Legacy Will Be Free of Microtransactions
@PenguinL Is it single-player? I always thought this was an MMO.
Re: Roblox Job Listing Suggests It's Finally Coming to PlayStation
@Martsmall yup, exactly, whoooooole other can of worms there.
Re: Roblox Job Listing Suggests It's Finally Coming to PlayStation
@PapaGlitch Nah, that's a fair question to ask tbh. Can't say I know too much about the in game economies of Dreams or LBP, but I don't believe you can cash out, or monetise your creations in those games. Roblox is marketed directly at children, and makes a point of "you can make money" from this. You can directly sell your creations and Roblox earns a very significant chunk of it at every step of the process
That's not to say I agree completely with the games you brought up, there's issues there for sure in the grand scheme of things, although maybe a bit more indirectly? All that Dreams can do is sell more copies of the game, and yes, if there's a big community making creations in it, that collectively helps them, but it doesn't incentivise work for profit I guess? Definitely worth a discussion though.
Re: Roblox Job Listing Suggests It's Finally Coming to PlayStation
@lolwhatno There's a lot to it, so I'd recommend either watching those docs or reading up on it. The gist of it is it doesn't happen directly on the platform, kids are recruited externally through Discord groups etc, so Roblox washes its hands off. There's multiple issues with that, recruiters profit directly from that and since nothing is official (contracts etc), they can be let go after months of work with nothing to show.
That's just one aspect of it, but it has other repercussions, The way creators and the in game economy works (basically scrip), means Roblox makes huge profits from every transaction, so while they say they provide a safe environment, they stop just short of enforcing anything of significance since it will hurt their pocket in the end.
Definitely worth looking into at the very least, there's a lot more to it, and I'm not as eloquent as actual journalists that have covered the subject!
Re: Roblox Job Listing Suggests It's Finally Coming to PlayStation
@lolwhatno There's some pretty shady stuff around Roblox, was quite happy it was being kept away from PS platforms so far. People Make Games have done 2 excellent videos on the subject, and there's various articles covering the same points if you dig a little bit. Unfortunately it's something that's often overlooked
Re: Roblox Job Listing Suggests It's Finally Coming to PlayStation
Hurray for child labour I guess...
Re: JoJo's Bizarre Adventure the Big Winner from Sony's State of Play
That doesn't surprise me in the slightest, JoJo has been literally exploding in popularity in the past few years. Also explains why they'd remaster this, don't get me wrong, I don't think it's a bad game at all, but not exactly one people have been screaming about to revive (hello MvC2).
Re: TMNT: The Cowabunga Collection Is Too Rad for PS5, PS4
I can't not buy this. Turtles 2 on the GameBoy was the very first videogame I ever owned (along with Double Dragon 2).
Re: 13 Per Cent of Horizon Forbidden West Players Have Finished the Story on PS5, PS4
I'm almost there, think I've only got 1 main quest left (or it certainly feels that way!). I'm about 55 hours in, so I really hope it wraps up soon 😂
Re: Latest PS5 Firmware Update Is Available to Download Now
Try stability, but hole.
Re: GTA 5 PS5 Price Is Looking Surprisingly Generous
@get2sammyb Nice, thanks! I actually didn't expect that, or not been paying enough attention.
Re: GTA 5 PS5 Price Is Looking Surprisingly Generous
@get2sammyb Is that confirmed about the Online, that if you claim it in the first three months you own it afterwards? I always assumed when they said "free for 3 months" that it's just that, free for three months and you'll need to buy it after that, kinda like those free weekends they do for some games but extended.
Re: Is GTA 5 on PS5 a Free Upgrade for PS4 Players? Probably Not
I'd be more surprised if there is an upgrade path than if there isn't. They did the same thing from PS3 to PS4. It's probably gonna top the charts regardless for a few more years, so they'll milk that all they can.
Re: PS5, PS4 Live Service Game Babylon's Fall Doesn't Look Good
@get2sammyb I wouldn't go that far, the last two games they did were Nier: Automata and Astral Chain, both outstanding games in my opinion. They've misstepped in the past, I'm sure once Bayo 3 comes out we'll forget Babylon's Fall ever existed.
Re: Poll: Did You Buy Elden Ring?
Will probably be on Horizon for a while, but planning to tackle this next. Although all the performance reviews might make me hold off a bit longer, either for a patch, or a decent mod on PC.
Re: Ratchet & Clank: Rift Apart Takes the Most Trophies at DICE Awards 2022
@BRT15 Wow... just wow, I would not have noticed that if you hadn't pointed it out, that is awful!
Re: Playing Elden Ring's PS4 Version on PS5 Might Be Your Best Bet for a Stable Frame-Rate
Man, I was holding off for DF to see if I should get this on PS5 or PC. Looks like it's ass everywhere lol
Re: Horizon Forbidden West Update 1.05 Released, Here Are the Patch Notes
@KilloWertz Yeah, 100% loving the game. As bad as that shimerring issue is, and a lot of jankiness tbh, it doesn't take away from how good the game is. Even the 30fps mode, which I struggle sometimes with in other games, is rock solid and well handled in terms of motion blur and effects to make it less jarring.