Just back from watching the reveal in the cinema and it was glorious! I really liked everything I saw, it's Destiny through and through, but improved in little areas. As a hunter I feel a little bit let down, Warlock and Titan supers look incredible, while the Hunter one is basically bladedancer with a staff, but hey ho, I'll wait to play it and see the other subclasses as well. Good vibes overall though, well done Bungie.
Also, I feel like I need to point out that one of the reasons I, and probably others, are against early access appearing on PSN and more curation happening, is not because we're evil and want to deprive people from playing them. Yes, I can ignore all the noise and grab what I want, but I feel it affects the discoverability of smaller cool titles that don't have the money to lead big marketing campaigns. I like going through new releases and checking out things I've not heard before, but that's nearly impossible on Steam anymore, and even worse on the mobile storefronts. There is so, so much shovelware and early access games, that I only go there if I want something specific. I don't want this to happen on PSN, even though it seems it's slowly moving that way.
I find it insulting, people are doing a service for them and they ask them to pay for it? Aside from the fact that you're playing a game that's half finished, buggy, that takes away from immersion. It's a beta, either let people play it for free to help you out, or pay for game testers. I just don't think it's very ethical.
I really liked all stars, and still play it regularly with friends. I disagree with the "copy paste smash" attitude, all stars' fighting system required pretty different strategies to a game of smash (you don't get damage, you really need to land your supers etc). Love them both to bits, but the notion that it was just a ripoff needs to go away. I'd like to see a sequel that builds and expands on that gameplay than something completely new. And some better balancing would be nice (looking at you Kratos).
This is fantastic news, I'm very happy for them! Always thought that it wouldn't do great commercially, due to the release window. I've been trying to push it to people I know, it's a true masterpiece imo.
I still find it mind boggling that they haven't sorted out changing your PSN ID. Not that I want to, but there's so many people out there screaming for it, they should really look into that.
@FullbringIchigo hey man, the game collection still has stock for the Wii U version, ordered mines yesterday morning and it arrived today. Hope this helps!
I kinda want to have my cake and eat it, to be honest. I've sunk a lot of hours into Destiny, and i still play regularly. I do love single player games though as well, and I play a lot of different games anyway, so I've never felt like I had to choose one or the other.
Would I want more live games? Well, personally, no. Destiny covers that space for me, and I don't really have time to allocate to a similar experience (say, the Division), so I'd rather Bungie keep making Destiny, and everyone else offering me one-off experiences.
But that's not exactly fair, is it? There are a lot of people who sink countless hours into their live game of choice, and so many more that might not have even found the live, long-term game that clicks with them the right way. Live games don't all fall in the same bracket, and more of those games coming, does not necessarily mean there would be a lack of innovation.
It's a tough question to answer one way or another, but I believe there is room for both. The tough reality is that a lot of the live games are going to fail, being so dependent on live communities, but same goes for single player games, there's a lot of them that might be great, but will fail commercially due to reasons such as poor marketing, crowded release windows etc.
On one hand AW was the last cod I really enjoyed, and still play occasionally, so I'm really looking forward to what Sledgehammer has to offer. On the other hand, military/realistic shooters have to be something really special to not bore me to death. I'll keep an open mind for now.
Like others have said, AC Unity had framerate issues at launch, but the patch that dropped about a month after that eradicated all of them. I played it around Christmas that year and didn't run into any major drops.
That being said, it's one of my least favourite AC games, but not for any technical reason.
I hope this is true, I've heard that kinda works on 360 BC games on the Xbox one. I am like you a bit wary though, I'll keep my eyes peeled at Digital Foundry.
They've got nothing to fear. I get what you're saying about mindshare, but you might be underestimating how much mindshare Horizon already has. It has consistently been voted one of the most anticipated games from gamers since its announcement (so is Zelda, I know), but it also has the advantage of launching in a platform that has three times the user base of Nintendo's two consoles combined (rough estimates by the way, I'm assuming Wii U is around 15 mil atm, and Switch will be very lucky to sell a million at launch). If I don't own a platform, or have no plans of buying, I generally switch off on their exclusives, that's why I think Horizon will still have a lot of mindshare.
Then again, I could be utterly wrong and I will have to eat my shoe
Mixed feelings about this one. Loved the way it combines three different genres, and the gameplay is really good, but I'm quite disappointed from the visuals. It really looks like a PS3 game, and the colour pallette isn't doing it any favours either. Bayonetta 2 was a gorgeous game, and it was running on a Wii U. I'm hoping there will be a bit more variety in the final game.
I feel it might be the lack of innovation, not necessarily in IPs, but in game types. This generation feels so so similar to the last one, you've got you open world action, your shooters, your rpgs etc, which is almost the same as last gen, but bigger and more refined. I feel like every new gen before that had something new to offer, like mario 64, or gta 3 for example.
Personally, I'm alright, I've bought most of these games, but I can see why a lot of people might feel like we've been playing the same games for the past 10 years.
I wouldn't be surprised if Crystal D is working on a next gen Tomb Raider, kinda how Rocksteady kept working on Arkham Knight, while WB Montreal released Origins. We could see Eidos Montreal's TR around 2018, and then Crystal D's PS5 TR around 2020.
Meh, I don't think this affects me very much. If I'm unsure about a game, I'll wait for a few reviews to be out. Whether that's on day one or day ten, I couldn't care less, I can wait. If it's something I can't wait, and I was gonna buy anyway, reviews wouldn't dissuade me anyway.
@Rudy_Manchego No problem man! There's been very little advertising about it, I luckily stumbled upon it a few days ago. That's the kind of thing Sony should be shouting about, no idea why they haven't.
Just to give people a heads up, there will be opportunities to try out psvr across the uk over the next couple weeks, if you're undecided. You can just book a place at trypsvr.com, I've booked a slot for this Saturday, see whether I keep or cancel my launch pre-order.
Thanks for the review, I'm definitely getting this now. Honestly, I just wanted them to get the action right, and to relive the story once more, cause it's been a wee while since I watched it. Sounds like it ticks both boxes, so I'm happy
Quite excited for this. I abandoned Destiny shortly after launch, but TTK dragged me back in and has kept me busy for months and months. I hope the story and missions/strikes/raid are on the same level as that was.
This has got me even more excited about the game actually. The fact he's warning against spoilers tells me there's a lot more to it than what they've shown so far, whether that's plot-wise or gameplay. And I was already sold anyway.
@get2sammyb The physical Taken King version had everything, although the disk was just Destiny. Year 1 expansions and Taken King were all codes. Which is what I suspect will happen here with everything + Rise of Iron.
The Destiny universe is fantastic, and it's one that's screaming for an EU, and I have no idea why there's nothing. I'd devour any books, comics, cartoons, anything really that expands on that world.
As far as the in game storytelling goes, I think it stumbled at first, but The Taken King was really good, and the rumour is that the same team is in charge of Destiny 2. If that's true, I'm expecting great things in the future.
All DLC bundled and full price is my prediction, kinda like Mass Effect 2 that came to PS3 a year later. We'll see, I'd obviously prefer half price, but I don't see that happening.
I know Bethesda wasn't amazing, but it wasn't nearly as bad as EA. Prey and Dishonored looked very good, the fact that id is taking back doom multiplayer, even skyrim remastered looked great. And they didn't talk about bloody football for half an hour.
Did Ubi just "leak" ps4 backwards compatibility? There's no mention of a Stick of Truth remaster, yet they said it would be free for all pre orders, which works for One and PC, but what about ps4? Anyone else have their conspiracy hat on?
Wow, just wow. I mean, Overwatch is an amazing game, as far as gameplay is concerned. But the lack of modes seems to matter a lot less when "EA" is not written on the box. As light as the content was in vanilla Battlefront, it was still more than what's here.
About a year and a half ago I was told that Rockstar North was involved in two projects. They were doing some mocap work on some "western stuff", and there was something else called either "paradox" or "paradise" or something similar sounding like that. Dunno if that's a codename, or final title for a new IP, or maybe agent?
Western stuff is most likely RDR, which is San Diego's normally, but I wouldn't put it out of the question for them to help out a bit.
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Re: Destiny 2 Gameplay Walkthrough Shows a Super Slick PS4 Sequel
Just back from watching the reveal in the cinema and it was glorious! I really liked everything I saw, it's Destiny through and through, but improved in little areas. As a hunter I feel a little bit let down, Warlock and Titan supers look incredible, while the Hunter one is basically bladedancer with a staff, but hey ho, I'll wait to play it and see the other subclasses as well. Good vibes overall though, well done Bungie.
Re: Reminder: Destiny 2's Big Gameplay Reveal Happens Today
HYPE!!
Re: Anti-Grav Racer Redout Weaves Its Way to PS4 in August
Another?! There's that Formula Fusion coming out soonish as well.
Re: Poll: Should Sony Allow Early Access Games on PS4?
Also, I feel like I need to point out that one of the reasons I, and probably others, are against early access appearing on PSN and more curation happening, is not because we're evil and want to deprive people from playing them. Yes, I can ignore all the noise and grab what I want, but I feel it affects the discoverability of smaller cool titles that don't have the money to lead big marketing campaigns. I like going through new releases and checking out things I've not heard before, but that's nearly impossible on Steam anymore, and even worse on the mobile storefronts. There is so, so much shovelware and early access games, that I only go there if I want something specific. I don't want this to happen on PSN, even though it seems it's slowly moving that way.
Re: Poll: Should Sony Allow Early Access Games on PS4?
I find it insulting, people are doing a service for them and they ask them to pay for it? Aside from the fact that you're playing a game that's half finished, buggy, that takes away from immersion. It's a beta, either let people play it for free to help you out, or pay for game testers. I just don't think it's very ethical.
Re: Neat Bethesda Promotional Art Teases E3 2017 Reveals
New Elder Scrolls (proper) can't be far behind, they're usually 5ish years apart. Could they pull a fallout and announce it and release this fall?
Re: This Isn't Your First Look at a PlayStation All-Stars Sequel
I really liked all stars, and still play it regularly with friends. I disagree with the "copy paste smash" attitude, all stars' fighting system required pretty different strategies to a game of smash (you don't get damage, you really need to land your supers etc). Love them both to bits, but the notion that it was just a ripoff needs to go away. I'd like to see a sequel that builds and expands on that gameplay than something completely new. And some better balancing would be nice (looking at you Kratos).
Re: Free-to-Play Smash Bros-Like Brawlhalla Falls to PS4 This Summer
I miss all-stars
Re: NieR: Automata Shipments and Digital Sales Top 1 Million
This is fantastic news, I'm very happy for them! Always thought that it wouldn't do great commercially, due to the release window. I've been trying to push it to people I know, it's a true masterpiece imo.
Re: Rumour: Destiny 2 Drops on 8th September Claims Leaked Poster
What's with that bloody humongous 2?
Re: Poll: What Are Your Thoughts on PS4 Firmware Update 4.50?
I still find it mind boggling that they haven't sorted out changing your PSN ID. Not that I want to, but there's so many people out there screaming for it, they should really look into that.
Re: Talking Point: What Are You Playing This Weekend? - Issue 156
@FullbringIchigo hey man, the game collection still has stock for the Wii U version, ordered mines yesterday morning and it arrived today. Hope this helps!
Re: Destiny 2 and Final Destiny Event Detailed By Bungie
@shaggywingnut I think all the raids are coming back for a last hurrah. There's clues to that on today's update puts tinfoil hat on
Re: Weirdness: Here's How Horizon's Ruins Could Look in the UK
Cancelling my pre order cause they put Edinburgh instead of Glasgow.
Re: VR Tennis Online Targets the Baseline in Japan Tomorrow
Virtua(l) Tennis.
Re: Talking Point: Are 'Live Games' Really What You Want on PS4?
I kinda want to have my cake and eat it, to be honest. I've sunk a lot of hours into Destiny, and i still play regularly. I do love single player games though as well, and I play a lot of different games anyway, so I've never felt like I had to choose one or the other.
Would I want more live games? Well, personally, no. Destiny covers that space for me, and I don't really have time to allocate to a similar experience (say, the Division), so I'd rather Bungie keep making Destiny, and everyone else offering me one-off experiences.
But that's not exactly fair, is it? There are a lot of people who sink countless hours into their live game of choice, and so many more that might not have even found the live, long-term game that clicks with them the right way. Live games don't all fall in the same bracket, and more of those games coming, does not necessarily mean there would be a lack of innovation.
It's a tough question to answer one way or another, but I believe there is room for both. The tough reality is that a lot of the live games are going to fail, being so dependent on live communities, but same goes for single player games, there's a lot of them that might be great, but will fail commercially due to reasons such as poor marketing, crowded release windows etc.
Re: Call of Duty 2017 Will Return to the Series' Roots
On one hand AW was the last cod I really enjoyed, and still play occasionally, so I'm really looking forward to what Sledgehammer has to offer. On the other hand, military/realistic shooters have to be something really special to not bore me to death. I'll keep an open mind for now.
Re: Talking Point: What Are You Playing This Weekend? - Issue 154
@LobsterJohnson haha, started it yesterday, but I'm playing it in VR anyway, so I'm fudged regardless of the time of day
Re: Talking Point: What Are You Playing This Weekend? - Issue 154
Split between Gravity Rush 2, RE7 and Destiny. Also this is the first full weekend I've had in three weeks. Hurray!!
Re: PS4 Pro's Boost Mode Is Proving to Be Quite the Beast
Like others have said, AC Unity had framerate issues at launch, but the patch that dropped about a month after that eradicated all of them. I played it around Christmas that year and didn't run into any major drops.
That being said, it's one of my least favourite AC games, but not for any technical reason.
Re: Poll: What PS4 Firmware 4.50 Feature are You Most Looking Forward To?
Can we just call it PS4 Pro Beast Mode?
Re: Rumour: PS4 Update to Add Pro 'Boost Mode', Upping Frame Rate of Unpatched Games
I hope this is true, I've heard that kinda works on 360 BC games on the Xbox one. I am like you a bit wary though, I'll keep my eyes peeled at Digital Foundry.
Re: Poll: Has Your PS4 Started to Run a Little Slower Lately?
Nah, I mean there's definitely lag, but I feel like I've noticed that since launch day, can't say it's been any worse.
Re: Feature: The Promising PS4 Games of February 2017
I voted for Horizon, but Nioh isn't far behind, really looking forward to both games.
Re: Hype Yourself with an Entire Horizon: Zero Dawn Quest Playthrough
@get2sammyb For the record, I'm with you on RotTR. I enjoyed the game, but Lara's voice actress was dreadful.
Re: Site News: Welcome to the New Push Square
Ooft, do I have to take my shoes off now? Well done lads, quite snazzy!
Re: Talking Point: Should Sony Move Horizon: Zero Dawn's PS4 Launch Away from the Nintendo Switch?
They've got nothing to fear. I get what you're saying about mindshare, but you might be underestimating how much mindshare Horizon already has. It has consistently been voted one of the most anticipated games from gamers since its announcement (so is Zelda, I know), but it also has the advantage of launching in a platform that has three times the user base of Nintendo's two consoles combined (rough estimates by the way, I'm assuming Wii U is around 15 mil atm, and Switch will be very lucky to sell a million at launch). If I don't own a platform, or have no plans of buying, I generally switch off on their exclusives, that's why I think Horizon will still have a lot of mindshare.
Then again, I could be utterly wrong and I will have to eat my shoe
Re: Hands On: NieR Automata Seems Like Yet Another Must Have PS4 Exclusive
Mixed feelings about this one. Loved the way it combines three different genres, and the gameplay is really good, but I'm quite disappointed from the visuals. It really looks like a PS3 game, and the colour pallette isn't doing it any favours either. Bayonetta 2 was a gorgeous game, and it was running on a Wii U. I'm hoping there will be a bit more variety in the final game.
Re: PSN Down Ahead of the Thanksgiving Holidays
What is this, 2012?
Re: Talking Point: Why Are Fall's Biggest Blockbusters Flopping?
I feel it might be the lack of innovation, not necessarily in IPs, but in game types. This generation feels so so similar to the last one, you've got you open world action, your shooters, your rpgs etc, which is almost the same as last gen, but bigger and more refined. I feel like every new gen before that had something new to offer, like mario 64, or gta 3 for example.
Personally, I'm alright, I've bought most of these games, but I can see why a lot of people might feel like we've been playing the same games for the past 10 years.
Re: Don't Even Think About Getting Saucy with the Share Button in Watch Dogs 2
Pretty sure I saw people sharing dongles from The Order 1886 without any bans. Go figure
Re: Eidos Montreal May Be Making the Next Tomb Raider Game
I wouldn't be surprised if Crystal D is working on a next gen Tomb Raider, kinda how Rocksteady kept working on Arkham Knight, while WB Montreal released Origins. We could see Eidos Montreal's TR around 2018, and then Crystal D's PS5 TR around 2020.
Re: Don't Expect Reviews of Skyrim and Dishonored 2 Before Launch on PS4
Meh, I don't think this affects me very much. If I'm unsure about a game, I'll wait for a few reviews to be out. Whether that's on day one or day ten, I couldn't care less, I can wait. If it's something I can't wait, and I was gonna buy anyway, reviews wouldn't dissuade me anyway.
Re: Feature: PlayStation VR Has the Power to Elicit Real-World Reactions
@Rudy_Manchego No problem man! There's been very little advertising about it, I luckily stumbled upon it a few days ago. That's the kind of thing Sony should be shouting about, no idea why they haven't.
Re: Feature: PlayStation VR Has the Power to Elicit Real-World Reactions
Just to give people a heads up, there will be opportunities to try out psvr across the uk over the next couple weeks, if you're undecided. You can just book a place at trypsvr.com, I've booked a slot for this Saturday, see whether I keep or cancel my launch pre-order.
Re: Review: Attack on Titan: Wings of Freedom (PS4)
Thanks for the review, I'm definitely getting this now. Honestly, I just wanted them to get the action right, and to relive the story once more, cause it's been a wee while since I watched it. Sounds like it ticks both boxes, so I'm happy
Re: Destiny: Rise of Iron Details Creep Out of the Darkness
Quite excited for this. I abandoned Destiny shortly after launch, but TTK dragged me back in and has kept me busy for months and months. I hope the story and missions/strikes/raid are on the same level as that was.
Re: No Man's Sky Maker Urges Fans to Avoid Spoilers as $1,300 Copy Leaks Online
This has got me even more excited about the game actually. The fact he's warning against spoilers tells me there's a lot more to it than what they've shown so far, whether that's plot-wise or gameplay. And I was already sold anyway.
Re: Destiny's Challenge of the Elders Won't Be the Same Starting Next Week
I thought it was already randomised lol. I doubt that will make much of a difference, or add more variety, I bet most players won't even notice.
Re: Destiny: The Collection Is Supposedly Coming to PS4 in August
@get2sammyb The physical Taken King version had everything, although the disk was just Destiny. Year 1 expansions and Taken King were all codes. Which is what I suspect will happen here with everything + Rise of Iron.
Re: Soapbox: Destiny's Grimoire Cards Are Pretty Awesome
The Destiny universe is fantastic, and it's one that's screaming for an EU, and I have no idea why there's nothing. I'd devour any books, comics, cartoons, anything really that expands on that world.
As far as the in game storytelling goes, I think it stumbled at first, but The Taken King was really good, and the rumour is that the same team is in charge of Destiny 2. If that's true, I'm expecting great things in the future.
Re: Rise of the Tomb Raider PS4's Still Holed Up in Croft Manor
All DLC bundled and full price is my prediction, kinda like Mass Effect 2 that came to PS3 a year later. We'll see, I'd obviously prefer half price, but I don't see that happening.
Re: Soapbox: Let's Be Honest, E3 2016 Was Disappointing
They could have just shown that God of War demo and nothing else during the entire E3 and I'd still be happy. STOKED
Re: E3 2016: PS4 Architect Mark Cerny Is Working on Hideo Kojima's Death Stranding
Knack 2 confirmed.
Re: Feature: All the E3 2016 Press Conferences Rated and Reviewed
I know Bethesda wasn't amazing, but it wasn't nearly as bad as EA. Prey and Dishonored looked very good, the fact that id is taking back doom multiplayer, even skyrim remastered looked great. And they didn't talk about bloody football for half an hour.
Re: Talking Point: Did Ubisoft's E3 2016 Press Conference Impress You?
Did Ubi just "leak" ps4 backwards compatibility? There's no mention of a Stick of Truth remaster, yet they said it would be free for all pre orders, which works for One and PC, but what about ps4? Anyone else have their conspiracy hat on?
Re: E3 2016: EA Offers Update on New Star Wars PS4 Titles
2018 though... That's rough, whatever's taking so long at visceral better be worth it.
Re: Round Up: Overwatch PS4 Reviews Are Ridiculously Positive
Wow, just wow. I mean, Overwatch is an amazing game, as far as gameplay is concerned. But the lack of modes seems to matter a lot less when "EA" is not written on the box. As light as the content was in vanilla Battlefront, it was still more than what's here.
Re: Rockstar Games to Reveal Exciting Future Projects Soon
About a year and a half ago I was told that Rockstar North was involved in two projects. They were doing some mocap work on some "western stuff", and there was something else called either "paradox" or "paradise" or something similar sounding like that. Dunno if that's a codename, or final title for a new IP, or maybe agent?
Western stuff is most likely RDR, which is San Diego's normally, but I wouldn't put it out of the question for them to help out a bit.
Re: Review: DOOM (PS4)
@sub12 I wouldn't object to that, loved Shadow Warrior.