@LogicStrikesAgain Exactly this. I believe the next Xbox and PS6 will be the last bespoke hardware from either. After that they will both go back to locking their exclusives to their own apps. For multiplatform games, players will be able to decide if they want to purchase via the PlayStation app, Xbox app etc. depending on which ecosystem they prefer/where their friends play. Sony and Microsoft still get their 30%.
At that point, the games and user experience will be the selling point and nothing to do with which box you chose.
@GamingGod Yes that is true. And without Sony stumping up billions, PlayStation would never have existed. The both have parent companies and shareholders.
@LogicStrikesAgain Why does nobody understand what I'm saying??? Sony will have their own storefront where you can buy Sony exclusives and multiplatform games. Xbox will have their own storefront where you can buy exclusives and multiplatform games. They will literally be separate apps just as TV apps are now.
In exactly the same way that I can watch things on Netflix, Prime, Paramount+, Disney+ etc. using the same TV, laptop or phone.
@Oram77 But I'm saying it will be very streamlined. I also think that virtually all people (not just gamers) are used to updates on any tech they own nowadays.
Laptops, tablets, consoles, phones, games, TVs, GPS, smart speakers, smart watches etc etc. all need updating and people are used to it.
@Oram77 But I think the disguised PC in a box will be plug and play just like a console is now. The casual gamer won't notice a difference as it will be set up just as consoles are now.
As a consumer and gamer who tends to buy all hardware I can, I would love to see a scenario where I only need to buy one box each generation and can access any game I want to. This is why I still believe that a disguised PC in a box which can access any storefront is the future.
@naruball What? You're kidding right? The floating mechanic is copied from Mario Sunshine, the tightrope walking is copied from Mario Sunshine, the coin collecting is copied from every Mario game, the tilting/twisting platforms are from Mario 64 onwards, the level design is copied from Mario 3D Land/World & Galaxy. Pretty much everything Astro Bot does is lifted from something Nintendo already made. I'm not saying that it's not a good game but don't try to claim it's original.
@Foxhound Yeah Nintendo really ****ed up with Game Key Cards. Limiting publishers to 64GB cards is an absolutely ridiculous practice that they should stop as soon as possible.
@Weebleman Well I hope it doesn't come across that way. I've owned every PlayStation since the PS2 (I chose N64 during the PS1 gen) and have spent thousands of pounds over the years on PlayStation games.
I just like games and have no allegiance to one plastic box over another.
It's difficult because they're mostly fantastically well made and wonderful games.
However, I do think that there's a common path these games take. Not thematically, but more to do with similar viewpoints, control schemes and the similar serious, dark tone a lot of them take.
Personally, I'd like to see one of the Sony studios create something realistic but more light hearted, fun and engaging, whilst still using the amazing tech they're known for.
People here will complain because sports games are selling more than their favourite game. They'll look down their noses at anyone who buys Madden or EAFC because any who buys them isn't a true gamer.
That to me is way more depressing than millions of people buying a genre of game I don't like.
@Northern_munkey In fairness, despite the massive initial hardware issues, the Xbox 360 is regarded as one of the greatest consoles ever.
It perfected online console gaming, introduced digital storefronts, was the home to some of the industry's biggest franchises and usually had the best versions of multiplatform games.
This isn't my opinion, but the opinion of pretty much any gaming journalists who worked during that generation.
If you look at the day one release schedule for Game Pass Ultimate in the last 12 months, it has been massively underpriced so I'm not at all surprised this has happened.
Whoever came up with this idea needs to be shot out of a cannon. 😂
I used to love the previous system. I went on a massive PSVR2 spending spree after getting my headset and earned lots of credit back to buy more games. That was a proper loyalty programme.
When the benefits of the PS5 Pro were listed it seemed to me like an unnecessary and overpriced step from Sony. It seems like it has proven that in practice.
Of course people will say that I'm wrong and defend their purchase publicly, but I'm fairly certain that a lot of those people have buyer's remorse.
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Re: Xbox Boss Believes Sony's Strategy of Console Exclusives Is 'Antiquated'
@GamingGod Maybe they would have. Microsoft has deeper pockets than Sony. What's your point?
Re: Xbox Boss Believes Sony's Strategy of Console Exclusives Is 'Antiquated'
@LogicStrikesAgain Exactly this. I believe the next Xbox and PS6 will be the last bespoke hardware from either. After that they will both go back to locking their exclusives to their own apps. For multiplatform games, players will be able to decide if they want to purchase via the PlayStation app, Xbox app etc. depending on which ecosystem they prefer/where their friends play. Sony and Microsoft still get their 30%.
At that point, the games and user experience will be the selling point and nothing to do with which box you chose.
Re: Xbox Boss Believes Sony's Strategy of Console Exclusives Is 'Antiquated'
@GamingGod Yes that is true. And without Sony stumping up billions, PlayStation would never have existed. The both have parent companies and shareholders.
Re: Xbox Boss Believes Sony's Strategy of Console Exclusives Is 'Antiquated'
@LogicStrikesAgain Why does nobody understand what I'm saying??? Sony will have their own storefront where you can buy Sony exclusives and multiplatform games. Xbox will have their own storefront where you can buy exclusives and multiplatform games. They will literally be separate apps just as TV apps are now.
In exactly the same way that I can watch things on Netflix, Prime, Paramount+, Disney+ etc. using the same TV, laptop or phone.
Please tell me that makes sense.
Re: Xbox Boss Believes Sony's Strategy of Console Exclusives Is 'Antiquated'
@ilyn That's exactly my point. The hardware should be irrelevant and one single piece of hardware should be able to access any games we want.
If a disguised PC in a box could access any storefront then that's exactly what we would have.
Re: Xbox Boss Believes Sony's Strategy of Console Exclusives Is 'Antiquated'
Hardware is just the conduit to play games. Nobody buys a PS5/Xbox/Switch to not play games.
Music, books and films don't tie you down to one place to listen, read or watch.
The way the games industry works is antiquated.
Re: Xbox Boss Believes Sony's Strategy of Console Exclusives Is 'Antiquated'
@Oram77 But I'm saying it will be very streamlined. I also think that virtually all people (not just gamers) are used to updates on any tech they own nowadays.
Laptops, tablets, consoles, phones, games, TVs, GPS, smart speakers, smart watches etc etc. all need updating and people are used to it.
Re: Xbox Boss Believes Sony's Strategy of Console Exclusives Is 'Antiquated'
@Oram77 But I think the disguised PC in a box will be plug and play just like a console is now. The casual gamer won't notice a difference as it will be set up just as consoles are now.
Re: Xbox Boss Believes Sony's Strategy of Console Exclusives Is 'Antiquated'
As a consumer and gamer who tends to buy all hardware I can, I would love to see a scenario where I only need to buy one box each generation and can access any game I want to. This is why I still believe that a disguised PC in a box which can access any storefront is the future.
Re: Sony Game Helldivers 2 Is Proving a Monstrous Success on Xbox
This benefits everyone. A game like Helldivers 2 should be on as many platforms as physically possible to succeed.
Re: PS6 Could Be Less Than Half the Price of Microsoft's 'Very Premium' Next-Gen Xbox
@Bez87 I get what you're saying to a point. However it does use Windows.
Re: PS5 Has Been 'Special' Thanks to SSD, DualSense Features Rather Than Visuals
I massively preferred the shape and comfort of the DualShock 4 and I always have the adaptive triggers and speaker off in any game with the DualSense.
Re: Avatar: Frontiers of Pandora's Third-Person Update Practically Makes It a New PS5 Game
This is amazing post launch support from Ubisoft.
Re: Sony Strikes Back at Tencent's Horizon Rip-Off, Says Light of Motiram 'Jeopardises' Future Success
@PuppetMaster You clearly have no idea about games in general. That's fine. Carry on believing what you do.
Re: Sony Strikes Back at Tencent's Horizon Rip-Off, Says Light of Motiram 'Jeopardises' Future Success
@arty1977 Name me a platform game where you had to collect 100 of something to get a bonus, before Super Mario Bros.
Re: Sony Strikes Back at Tencent's Horizon Rip-Off, Says Light of Motiram 'Jeopardises' Future Success
@naruball So it's fine to copy the game mechanics, level design, puzzle style, control schemes as long as the main character looks different? 😂
And yes, collecting 100 coins/rings/whatever, for some kind of bonus is a game mechanic introduced by Super Mario Bros.
Re: Sony Strikes Back at Tencent's Horizon Rip-Off, Says Light of Motiram 'Jeopardises' Future Success
@naruball What? You're kidding right? The floating mechanic is copied from Mario Sunshine, the tightrope walking is copied from Mario Sunshine, the coin collecting is copied from every Mario game, the tilting/twisting platforms are from Mario 64 onwards, the level design is copied from Mario 3D Land/World & Galaxy. Pretty much everything Astro Bot does is lifted from something Nintendo already made. I'm not saying that it's not a good game but don't try to claim it's original.
Re: Sony Strikes Back at Tencent's Horizon Rip-Off, Says Light of Motiram 'Jeopardises' Future Success
It may have a similar art style but the gameplay I saw was completely different.
Re: Ghost of Yotei Sales Fall Off In Japan, But PS5 Exclusive Still Sticks Around in Second Place
I would have thought that lots of digital sales were made during the pandemic, especially with Japan's incredibly strict quarantine rules at the time.
Re: Highly Rated, Overlooked Stealth Strategy Game Shadow Tactics Gets Free PS5 Upgrade
@JohnnyShoulder I bought this on Xbox One and still haven't played it. I've heard great things about it though.
Re: Ninja Gaiden, Dead or Alive Legend Tomonobu Itagaki Has Passed Away
😥 Awful news. Rest in peace.
Re: Tomb Raider: Anniversary Due Next Week on PS5, PS4, Not Mentioned in PS Plus Premium Update
Why the PS2 version???
Re: Poll: What Review Score Would You Give Ghost of Yotei?
Anyone voting 1, 2, 3, 4 or 5 is a fanboy trying to skew the numbers in my opinion.
Re: The Metaphor: ReFantazio Anniversary Event Was Just Atlus Trying to Sell a New Digital Edition
@Foxhound Yeah Nintendo really ****ed up with Game Key Cards. Limiting publishers to 64GB cards is an absolutely ridiculous practice that they should stop as soon as possible.
Re: Call of Duty Is Trying Everything It Can to Make You Play Black Ops 7 Over Battlefield 6
@get2sammyb It does seem strange. Maybe it's to try and encourage people to still play if they can't find many people at a very low level.
Re: PS4's Record-Setting US Sales Pace Is Being Comfortably Beaten by Switch 2
@naruball If Nintendo had such a huge amount of extremely loyal fans then the Wii U would have been a smash hit.
Re: PS4's Record-Setting US Sales Pace Is Being Comfortably Beaten by Switch 2
But that's because Japan loves handhelds.... Oh. Wait.
Re: Sony Reveals Icon Blue PS5 DualSense, Quite Possibly the Bluest Controller Ever
I really like the look of this but I already have black, white, cobalt blue and volcanic red controllers.
I'm so tempted though.
Re: Wolverine PS5 Actor Was Allegedly Paid a 'Hefty Sum' to Star in Xbox's Answer to Uncharted
I want more Uncharted.
Re: PS6 May Go Uncontested as Rumours of Next-Gen Xbox Cancellation Force Microsoft to Comment
Is this article going to be updated now that Microsoft have once again confirmed that they are definitely releasing a new Xbox?
No. Probably not.
Re: PS6 May Go Uncontested as Rumours of Next-Gen Xbox Cancellation Spiral
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Re: Xbox Squandered Over $300 Million Putting Call of Duty in Game Pass
@Weebleman Well I hope it doesn't come across that way. I've owned every PlayStation since the PS2 (I chose N64 during the PS1 gen) and have spent thousands of pounds over the years on PlayStation games.
I just like games and have no allegiance to one plastic box over another.
Re: Xbox Squandered Over $300 Million Putting Call of Duty in Game Pass
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Re: Dying Light: The Beast (PS5) - The Series at Its Best
Why is no-one complaining that this is a digital only release?
Re: Talking Point: Are You Getting Sick of Sony's Supposedly 'Samey' Approach to Story Telling?
It's difficult because they're mostly fantastically well made and wonderful games.
However, I do think that there's a common path these games take. Not thematically, but more to do with similar viewpoints, control schemes and the similar serious, dark tone a lot of them take.
Personally, I'd like to see one of the Sony studios create something realistic but more light hearted, fun and engaging, whilst still using the amazing tech they're known for.
Re: Sports Games Rule PS Store in September, Sweeping Silksong and Borderlands 4 Aside on PS5
People here will complain because sports games are selling more than their favourite game. They'll look down their noses at anyone who buys Madden or EAFC because any who buys them isn't a true gamer.
That to me is way more depressing than millions of people buying a genre of game I don't like.
Re: PS Plus Looks Better Than Ever After New Xbox Game Pass Price Rises
@naruball Sorry, I'm not sure which of my posts you were referring to.
Re: PS Plus Looks Better Than Ever After New Xbox Game Pass Price Rises
@Northern_munkey In fairness, despite the massive initial hardware issues, the Xbox 360 is regarded as one of the greatest consoles ever.
It perfected online console gaming, introduced digital storefronts, was the home to some of the industry's biggest franchises and usually had the best versions of multiplatform games.
This isn't my opinion, but the opinion of pretty much any gaming journalists who worked during that generation.
Re: PS Plus Looks Better Than Ever After New Xbox Game Pass Price Rises
If you look at the day one release schedule for Game Pass Ultimate in the last 12 months, it has been massively underpriced so I'm not at all surprised this has happened.
Re: New PS5 Slim Is Cheaper in Every Way Except the Retail Price, New Teardown Video Reveals
I remember buying a 500gb PS3 Super Slim and I could justify the cheaper build quality/design because of the massively cheaper price.
I miss those days. 😥
Re: Romeo Is a Dead Man Gives Wolverine PS5's Gore a Run for Its Money
I love Suda 51 games and can't wait for this.
Re: Don't Expect a Helldivers 3: Arrowhead Hopes Helldivers 2 Is a 'Forever Game'
@Oram77 Destiny 2 has being doing incredibly well for many years. I don't really get your point.
Re: Random: Auteur Hideo Kojima Hopes to Win an Award by Scanning a Real-Life Ghost into His Horror Game
@bluemage1989 Agreed. So pretentious and I hate when the word "auteur" is used.
Re: PlayStation's New 'Rewards' Program Goes Down Like a Lead Balloon
Whoever came up with this idea needs to be shot out of a cannon. 😂
I used to love the previous system. I went on a massive PSVR2 spending spree after getting my headset and earned lots of credit back to buy more games. That was a proper loyalty programme.
Re: Controversial Disco Elysium Follow-Up Zero Parades Confirmed for PS5 in 2026
People come and go. It's the same in every business. I'll wait to see the finished game before making any judgement.
Re: First Wolverine PS5 Gameplay Is Incredibly Gory, Set for Fall 2026
This looks great. I do think that anything Marvel should be available on all platforms though.
Re: PS5 Is the Most Successful Console in PlayStation History, States Sony
In my opinion, the PS1, PS2, PS3 and to some extent the PS4 had far better libraries and were more interesting/exciting consoles.
This entire generation has felt flat and uninspiring to me.
I couldn't give a sh*t how many billions Sony make in profit if it doesn't translate into incredible game experiences. And I don't feel it has.
Re: The Zelda Vibes Are Strong in Demi and the Fractured Dream, Coming to PS5
This genuinely does look like a total rip off of 3D Zelda games. Particularly Wind Waker.
Re: Is This the First Tease of Next-Gen PS6 Graphics?
Gaming is becoming such a boring hobby.
Re: PS5 Pro Users Starting to Feel a Little Shortchanged After Poor or Absent Support
When the benefits of the PS5 Pro were listed it seemed to me like an unnecessary and overpriced step from Sony. It seems like it has proven that in practice.
Of course people will say that I'm wrong and defend their purchase publicly, but I'm fairly certain that a lot of those people have buyer's remorse.