I still struggle to get my head around Sony's purchase of Bungie.
Had they really demonstrated enough for them to be valued at $3.6 billion? No.
Even if that was the "market value", who at Sony looked the price and thought it would be money well spent?
This isn't even a case of hindsight being a wonderful thing because I don't remember anyone on this site, or elsewhere, thinking this was a good move.
If I was a major Sony shareholder I would be demanding that any future live service games are ported to as many platforms as technologically possible and that anyone still left at the company who approved this purchase is made to leave.
Get Dotemu to make a brand new 2D Castlevania, get M2 to hurry up and give us MGS4 in the next master collection and make a brand new, current gen 3D Contra.
I remember in 1993, when Mortal Kombat came out on the SNES, there was an April Fools joke in an official Nintendo magazine in the UK that said that if you taped a penny to the top of the cartridge and did a random button combination, you could unlock a blood mode. 😂
@Scottyy I completely agree. The optics of Sony releasing another live service game that fails will be catastrophic. Not to mention the financial hit they'll take.
That's if it fails. Whilst this will never be my type of game, I won't get any joy if it does. The only positive for me would be that Sony stops this current chase to find a unicorn cash cow.
The PlayStation store needs massive improvements. The Xbox store is by far the best of the main 3. The Switch store is easily the worst. I haven't tried the Switch 2 store yet but I've heard it's better. Weirdly, the PS app is much better for making purchases than the Xbox app.
Game Pass is a fantastic service where I've been able to play and then buy games I would have never considered buying previously. Cross Code is a prime example.
Also, nobody forces developers to put their games on Game Pass. It's a choice they make that makes business sense for them. All the better if they make their games available for purchase on other platforms.
This is another reason I'm so impressed with the way "new" Atari is operating. The people in charge made some very astute modern dev acquisitions while also maximising their incredible retro history with quality retro consoles.
@UltimateOtaku91 But I don't think the existing console model makes any sense in the future. I believe that we'll all have a disguised PC in a box that will be able to access content from the PS Store, Xbox Store, Steam etc.
You can currently buy the same games from places like Steam and Epic depending on your preference. You'll be able to buy those games via PlayStation if that's your preference but it will be via an app on the device rather than via bespoke PlayStation hardware.
I've said it a million times before but I'll say it again. Bespoke hardware will be an unnecessary expense for both Sony and Microsoft after the next generation.
It seems like Sony are finally realising that there won't be a market for the PS7 to exist in.
@Weebleman Exactly this. The difference between an SNES and Mega Drive version of a game could be night and day at times. The extra power and extra buttons on Nintendo's console didn't always equate to the ports being the best version either.
Nowadays, there's very little difference between any multiplatform games regardless of where you play.
The N64 version of trilogy had better graphics and loading times but far fewer characters, skins and fatalities than the PS1 version. Here's hoping for both or a remix of the 2.
It's an interesting strategy if true. I think we can all agree that performance increases from generation to generation are minimal at this point so having a system with a massive market price point makes a lot of sense. I still think this will be the last gen of dedicated consoles from anyone though.
Microsoft and Sony make little to no money on hardware. Microsoft making 70% on software sales for PS5 releases will definitely make Sony pay attention.
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Re: Gears of War: Reloaded (PS5) - Iconic Xbox Shooter Is the Perfect Intro for PlayStation Fans
I'd find this really weird to play with symmetrical sticks. My muscle memory would keep distracting me.
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Re: Metal Gear Solid Delta's Dismal PS5 Pro Support Could Use a Rethink
I remember when people used to play games for the fun and joy they gave us.
Shakes fist at a cloud.
Re: Call of Duty: Black Ops 7 Is Having a Tougher Time on the PS5, PS4 Pre-Order Charts
@PuppetMaster You're actually being the aggressive one from what I can see.
Re: Bungie Boss Pete Parsons Departs as Sony Starts to Take Control of Flagging Dev
@TimeDelayedGamer This comment has won the thread.
Re: Bungie Boss Pete Parsons Departs as Sony Starts to Take Control of Flagging Dev
I still struggle to get my head around Sony's purchase of Bungie.
Had they really demonstrated enough for them to be valued at $3.6 billion? No.
Even if that was the "market value", who at Sony looked the price and thought it would be money well spent?
This isn't even a case of hindsight being a wonderful thing because I don't remember anyone on this site, or elsewhere, thinking this was a good move.
If I was a major Sony shareholder I would be demanding that any future live service games are ported to as many platforms as technologically possible and that anyone still left at the company who approved this purchase is made to leave.
Re: Konami Wants to 'Consider Lots of Other Games' for Remake Treatment if MGS Delta Succeeds
Get Dotemu to make a brand new 2D Castlevania, get M2 to hurry up and give us MGS4 in the next master collection and make a brand new, current gen 3D Contra.
Re: Hollow Knight: Silksong Is Finally Out on 4th September
I avoided the original for ages because I was burned out on Metroidvanias. I gave it a go on Game Pass and fell in love and then bought it.
I'll do the same with Silksong and hopefully it draws me in like the first one did.
Re: Fans Think They May Have Unearthed Mortal Kombat Legacy Kollection's PS5, PS4 Release Date, Again
I remember in 1993, when Mortal Kombat came out on the SNES, there was an April Fools joke in an official Nintendo magazine in the UK that said that if you taped a penny to the top of the cartridge and did a random button combination, you could unlock a blood mode. 😂
Me and my friend David fell for it.
Re: Fans Think They May Have Unearthed Mortal Kombat Legacy Kollection's PS5, PS4 Release Date, Again
I can't wait to buy this!
Re: Don't Believe the Speculation About PS5's Fairgames Getting Cancelled
I also think that Sony should release this on Xbox and Switch 2 to give it the best chance of survival.
Re: Don't Believe the Speculation About PS5's Fairgames Getting Cancelled
@Scottyy I completely agree. The optics of Sony releasing another live service game that fails will be catastrophic. Not to mention the financial hit they'll take.
That's if it fails. Whilst this will never be my type of game, I won't get any joy if it does. The only positive for me would be that Sony stops this current chase to find a unicorn cash cow.
Re: Make Up Your Own Mind About Critically Panned PS1 Platformer Bubsy 3D from 9th September on PS5
I really enjoyed the Atari Jaguar version of Bubsy.
Re: 'We'll Continue to Evolve the PS Store': Sony on Making PS5, PS4 Shopping Better
The PlayStation store needs massive improvements. The Xbox store is by far the best of the main 3. The Switch store is easily the worst. I haven't tried the Switch 2 store yet but I've heard it's better. Weirdly, the PS app is much better for making purchases than the Xbox app.
Re: Xbox Game Pass May Make Devs 'Wage Slaves', Says Ex-PlayStation Exec
Game Pass is a fantastic service where I've been able to play and then buy games I would have never considered buying previously. Cross Code is a prime example.
Also, nobody forces developers to put their games on Game Pass. It's a choice they make that makes business sense for them. All the better if they make their games available for purchase on other platforms.
Re: The Outrageously Over-the-Top Fast & Furious Arcade Game Is Coming to PS5
Cruis’n Blast is a brilliant game and one of my most played on Switch.
This looks like it could be fun too.
Re: The Outrageously Over-the-Top Fast & Furious Arcade Game Is Coming to PS5
@CielloArc Split Second is fantastic and backwards compatible on Xbox.
Re: Sony Likens Its Fledgling Anime Business to the PS1 Era
Is it not worrying to anyone else for Sony to have such a huge chunk of the animé market?
Re: Senua's Saga: Hellblade 2 Enhanced (PS5) - Cinematic Spectacle Offers Little Else
I actually really loved Hellblade 2. Not every game has to be a complex mashing of buttons.
Re: Senua's Saga: Hellblade 2 Enhanced (PS5) - Cinematic Spectacle Offers Little Else
@Perturbator An Enslaved remake would be incredible. I adore that game and played through it again a few months ago on Xbox.
Re: Hideo Kojima Alone Is Currently Working on PlayStation Exclusive Physint
I would love for him to blow everyone's minds and to release it exclusively on PS3 in 2028.
Re: Round Up: Ninja Gaiden 4 Sounds Like the Slick, Brutal Sequel Fans Are Hoping For
Probably my second favourite game series after Uncharted. I love the look of this and it's going to be a day one buy for me.
I'm definitely in the minority but I really liked NG3 and N3:RE.
Re: Holy Sh*t! 90s Hack 'n' Cast Classics Heretic and Hexen Launch on PS5, PS4 Today
This is another reason I'm so impressed with the way "new" Atari is operating. The people in charge made some very astute modern dev acquisitions while also maximising their incredible retro history with quality retro consoles.
Re: Critically Acclaimed Compilation UFO 50 Is Skipping PS5 For Now
I hadn't even heard of this until today but now I'm hooked. Just need to decide which system to buy it for.
Re: Holy Sh*t! 90s Hack 'n' Cast Classics Heretic and Hexen Launch on PS5, PS4 Today
Amazing news and a fantastic price! Everyone should buy these.
Re: A Quote from a Sony Exec Is Causing a Hubbub Among PS5 Fans Again
@UltimateOtaku91 I was referring to third party titles. They will still be available across multiple stores.
But first party titles will be tied to individual store fronts.
Re: A Quote from a Sony Exec Is Causing a Hubbub Among PS5 Fans Again
@DaveTheRave Good god this such a childish post.
Re: A Quote from a Sony Exec Is Causing a Hubbub Among PS5 Fans Again
@UltimateOtaku91 But I don't think the existing console model makes any sense in the future. I believe that we'll all have a disguised PC in a box that will be able to access content from the PS Store, Xbox Store, Steam etc.
You can currently buy the same games from places like Steam and Epic depending on your preference. You'll be able to buy those games via PlayStation if that's your preference but it will be via an app on the device rather than via bespoke PlayStation hardware.
Re: A Quote from a Sony Exec Is Causing a Hubbub Among PS5 Fans Again
@Oram77 The console industry and the smartphone industry are completely different things.
Re: A Quote from a Sony Exec Is Causing a Hubbub Among PS5 Fans Again
I've said it a million times before but I'll say it again. Bespoke hardware will be an unnecessary expense for both Sony and Microsoft after the next generation.
It seems like Sony are finally realising that there won't be a market for the PS7 to exist in.
Re: Sony Controlling More of Marathon Dev Bungie, Will Be Integrated into PS Studios
I still think that the cancelled The Last Of Us online game was Sony's best way to have a guaranteed live service hit.
Re: Phew! C. Viper's Turning Up the Temperature in Street Fighter 6 on PS5, PS4
I'm so sick and tired of fighting games not including all characters from the beginning.
Re: PS1's Mortal Kombat Trilogy Joins PS5, PS4 Legacy Kollection, Killer Physical Editions Announced
@get2sammyb I'd love to see all games up to and including MK9 released. Paid DLC wouldn't bother me at all.
Re: Mortal Kombat Trilogy Joins PS5, PS4 Legacy Kollection, Killer Physical Editions Announced
@ILikeStake I kannot disagree.
Re: Mortal Kombat Trilogy Joins PS5, PS4 Legacy Kollection, Killer Physical Editions Announced
@get2sammyb @ILikeStake I'm fairly sure I did something similar to this post about 3 years ago. Sammy, help me out.
Re: Rumour: Sony to Put More First-Party PS5 Games on Xbox
@Weebleman Exactly this. The difference between an SNES and Mega Drive version of a game could be night and day at times. The extra power and extra buttons on Nintendo's console didn't always equate to the ports being the best version either.
Nowadays, there's very little difference between any multiplatform games regardless of where you play.
Re: Mortal Kombat Trilogy Joins PS5, PS4 Legacy Kollection, Killer Physical Editions Announced
The N64 version of trilogy had better graphics and loading times but far fewer characters, skins and fatalities than the PS1 version. Here's hoping for both or a remix of the 2.
Re: Rumour: Leaked PS6 Specs Reveal Affordable, Power Efficient Next-Gen Console
It's an interesting strategy if true. I think we can all agree that performance increases from generation to generation are minimal at this point so having a system with a massive market price point makes a lot of sense. I still think this will be the last gen of dedicated consoles from anyone though.
Re: 'No, I Won't': Kojima Rejects Playing Metal Gear Solid 3 Remake
He doesn't strike me as someone who plays games that much anyway.
Re: Microsoft Reiterates It's the Top Publisher on PS5 in Earnings Call
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@SeaDaVie But Microsoft have been making games since the 80s. And with Windows, you could argue they've done more for the games industry than Sony.
Indiana Jones and TGC wouldn't exist without Microsoft instigating the deal to make the game.
Re: Microsoft Reiterates It's the Top Publisher on PS5 in Earnings Call
I really wish that people would stop boring the world by saying "But Xbox bought..." Bethesda has been part of Xbox from 2021 and ABK from 2023.
How far back in time do we have to keep referencing these things? Those publishers, those studios, those franchises and those games are part of Xbox.
Get over it.
Re: Twisted Metal's Anticipated Second Season Debuts with Three Episodes
I've never played the games but someone shared a trailer for the first season with me the other day and damn it looked so ****ING good.
It has a real Grindhouse vibe that massively appeals to me.
Re: Swery65, Suda51's Wild Collab Game Hotel Barcelona Hits PS5 in September
I will be buying this day one!
Re: Eye-Opening PS5 Sales Data Reveals Why Microsoft Is Porting Xbox Games
Microsoft and Sony make little to no money on hardware. Microsoft making 70% on software sales for PS5 releases will definitely make Sony pay attention.