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@themightyant Yes true that's also one of other reasons why Sony didn't want to buy WB.

Overall WB is a big mess and it needs a lot of time to clean up these mess. Imagine the headache to layoff thousands of people, restructure the company and absorb them, facing the media backlash, and waiting when you can recover billions of your money + profits while maintaning your main company.

And Sony probably learn the lesson what happened with MS after they bought Bethesda and Acti-B.

I enjoyed the 1st game but not yet played the sequel Nirvana Initiative and this one which i heard is a spinoff and took place between the 1st and 2nd game.

This is the first time i heard about both games. So i check the gameplay on youtube and i think i didn't missed out any substantial experiences.

I played the demo for like 30-40 minutes and this is just me but the story feels...less interesting than Octopath 2.

I think i'm gonna skip this one.

Looks fun. But i'm far behind when comes to BlazBlue story & lore. The last BlazBlue i played was Continuum Shift back in 2009.

@Porco What you said makes sense if Sony or Sucker Punch said Yotei is THE game where they want to "grow the franchise". But i never see someone from Sony or Sucker Punch who claim that.

Not to mention Yotei has very similar budget to Tsushima at $60 million. Which means Sony only wants Yotei to continue Tsushima success but not far enough as a cornerstone to make the franchise bigger.

@Jey887 ikr

It's crazy how some people put a lot of hates and rage towards a game they're not even wants to buy / play.

@Oram77 None of modern ArcSys fighters only has 8 fighters in the base roster. So i'm sure there will be more than 8, at least 16-20 since this is 4 vs 4.

X-Mansion looks nice but this announcement would be so much better if Gambit, Psylocke, Colossus, Nightcrawler, or Ice Man not just standing in the background but got announce as playable. But i guess they're not ready to announce new characters...

I think it's okay. Not good nor bad although feels kinda underwhelming. Maybe i put too much expectation with the word "beloved series".

I expect Marvel Tokon to show up with new character trailer. But it's just a new stage X-Mansion which looks nice and 2nd closed beta announcement.

That BlazBlue spinoff game kinda looks nice though.

Bungie probably one of the biggest reason why Sony doesn't want to buy WB or do big acquisition that cost billions anymore.

@Porco "yotei has a long way to go before it is considered a financial success"

This is a single player game, not live service game where it must perform well and generated big revenue in the long run.

And with $60 million budget, 3.3 million copies in one month means Yotei already pass break even and became profitable. If a game became profitable in one month, publisher will count it as a financial success.

It's not necessary for Yotei to reach or even surpass Tsushima 13 million copies in 5 years. Heck, if Yotei can sold just 5-9 million copies in say 3 years, Sony will count that as extra profit.

First time i hear about this title.

It's nice to see Shift Up having a great success with Stellar Blade.

But S.Korea devs has great potential for years. Anyone plays PC MMORPG since early 2000 must known Ragnarok Online. On PS2 and PSP, S.Korea devs also made Magna Charta, DJ Max series, and handled KoF 2001 & 02.

And beside Stellar Blade and Lies of P, there's also Gungrave Gore and VR, DNF Duel, First Berserker Khazan, and The First Descendant that came out from S.Korea devs.

Like China, i think S.Korea devs became more and more experiences in the last 3-5 years. They offers great alternatives for gamers who wants to play games not from Japan, US, or EU.

I bought Lumines remastered and i really like it. I might get this one but i'll wait for a physical copy.

@CielloArc "but it isn't near what a game like this should be making, at least not when its a sequel to an established IP"

I don't know what was your initial prediction for Yotei. But i think you overestimate how popular / big Ghost IP is.

And for comparison sake with Sucker Punch previous sequel or 2nd game:

• Spyro 2 sold 3.4 million copies life time sales as of June 2007.
• Sly Cooper 2 sold estimates 960K-1.2 million copies life time sales.
• Infamous 2 sold 369K in one month and US only. Can't find ww numbers or from other regions.

Comparison with some Sony 1st party sequel or 2nd game in the series:

• Uncharted 2 released in october 2009 and 4 months later it sold 3.5 million copies ww.
• God of War 2 released in march 2007 and 3 months later it sold 1 million copies ww.
• TloU 2 sold 4 million copies in the 1st week.
• Spiderman 2 sold 5 million copies in 11 days.

For a 2nd game in the series, I say Yotei really sold well. Not just it surpass Sucker Punch previous sequels but it's not that far with bigger titles like TloU 2 and Spiderman 2.

@DadJKP It only took me less than a minute to check your comment history. But what sad is you got angry and took this news personally. There's always something wrong with people like you. So, i wish you good luck buddy.

@DadJKP Last month you doubt Circana report and asked where's the specific numbers, yes?
https://www.pushsquare.com/news/2025/10/sep-2025-usa-sales-ghost-of-yotei-ps5-boycott-fails-sequel-sells-great

But now Sony showed the real numbers and you sounds salty af lol. What's wrong buddy? Did Atsu killed your dog or something? 🤣

@Reeneman Spiderman 2 rated "Teen". There's violences in the game so it's not as family friendly as say Astro Bot or Nintendo games.

And talk about family friendly games, Astro Bot "only" sold 1.5 million copies compare to Yotei at 3.3 million, GoW Ragnarok at 15 million, or Stellar Blade at 3 million copies which all rated "Mature". So i don't think family friendly games will always sell more than mature games.

But like i said, PS has quite diverse exclusives lineup that caters to people with different age and taste.

@Toot1st A lot of people did bought PS for exclusives and PS has a good chunk of exclusives that cater to people with different taste.

For example, Spiderman 2 sold 11 million copies on PS5 alone and those numbers from April last year when PS5 at 56 million units. That means 19.64% of PS5 owners bought Spiderman 2.

PS owners has diversed taste so one could buy GT 7 but not Spiderman 2. Others could buy Death Stranding 2 but not GoW Ragnarok, R&C Rift Apart, Stelar Blade, Helldivers 2 etc etc.

@LogicStrikesAgain I think the last time Sony announced the official numbers for Spiderman 2 was 11 million copies back in april 2024 and Astro Bot was 1.5 million copies back in november 2024. Both games are still selling well so my rough guess; Spiderman 2 at 15 million and Astro Bot at 2.5-3 million.

We'll see if Sony next year fiscal report gonna include 1st party games numbers or not...

Almost surpass PS3 numbers at 86/87 million.

With next year release like Wolverine, Marvel Tokon, Saros, Phantom Blade Zero, Loulan, Nioh 3 etc, it's safe to predict that PS5 will pass PS3 numbers and close to 100 million.

There's the official numbers for anyone who's asking or still thinks that Yotei is flop.

I hope this can shut up those grifters. But eh they're probably gonna make more misleading videos about Yotei is a flop 🙄

Anyway. Good news for Sucker Punch 🍻
3.3 million copies × $70 /copy which means Sony got roughly around $230 million revenue (not include cuts for retail & tax). With $60 million budget, Yotei already passed break even and pretty much is in profitable zone.

With Yotei success, Sucker Punch already secured their next project either a new Ghost game or new IP.

Dang, exoskeleton is real huh?

It's crazy how tech like this and prostethic robot arms / legs used to only exist in sci-fi movies, games, or anime but now they're real.

I wonder what's next, could be prosthetic robot eyes or nanomachines like in GitS and MGS became a reality too? Fascinating 🤔

Sony & ArcSys made the right decision to designed Marvel Tokon characters with Japan / anime aesthetics. The game looks quite standout among other fighting games.

But for me it always interesting every time Japan got their creative hands on Marvel or DC characters. Like example Yusuke Murata, Eyeshield 21 & One Punch Man illustrator, draws a lot of Spider-man and Marvel characters and they looks great. Or Wolverine Snikt! by Tsutomu Nihei, Blame! author was great too. And i really enjoyed Batman Ninja, Batman: Gotham Knight, and Iron Man: Rise of Technoverse which was done by Japanese animation studios.

I really like this game. I think i spent more than 50-60 hours but i never feel one bit that this game feels sluggish / laggy to play and needs 60 fps / remaster. Not just it looks beautiful but it also runs really well at 30 fps which i think it fits with the game slow pace.

Not every last gen games needs a remaster, especially the ones who already looks beautiful and runs really well.

The only Fallout i ever played is Fallout 3 and i didn't like it. I think i'll just stick with the TV show which i quite enjoyed.

I'm excited for this game, Loulan, and Onimusha. The future of character action games still looks good despite NG 4 didn't sold well.

@Medic_alert Yeah. A lot of these companies doesn't think much about their customers. And buying 2nd hand games to "punish" scummy companies actually a good idea too.

@AK4tywill Gravity Rush 1 already got remastered by Bluepoint back in 2016.

@1UP-HUSKY Whatever you say i guess 🤷‍♂️

@Medic_alert For me, it's more like stop buying online only games.

I just bought a brand new copy of Wild Guns: Reloaded for PS4 and it's just nice when i insert the disc but there's no day 1 patch or no signing in to server. I can go straight to the main menu and start play the game 😊

@1UP-HUSKY SE probably already made a deal with Sony for FF Tactics to showed up at SoP months before SE announced their multiplat plan. So don't expect VIIR Part 3 or other unannounced games to show up at SoP.

I thought September SoP would be the last for this year but there's one more and it will focus on Japanese games with 40 minutes run time? This is a surprise 😮

I expect Marvel Tokon would show up with new characters. Probably Onimusha / Pragmata / RE 9 also gonna shows up. And a new exclusive game with FromSoft?

Sega also could show up with VF 6 / Golden Axe / SoR.

I don't expect anything from SE though...

@Leinad7 "Wolverine will be Spiderman 2 reskin. It looks like Spiderman without web swinging and that is not a good thing"

Did you watched a different trailer buddy cause nothing from the trailer give me that impression, not even the combat looks close to Spiderman, with Wolverine brutally mutilated his enemies.

Heck, it's not even an open world game. So i don't know on what based you pulled up that claim???

"GTA6 really looks like revolution now"

Lol you're drunk. There's no gameplay trailer, only story cutscenes that shows typical GTA stuff mixed with Bonnie & Clyde from Florida. Nothing in that trailer looks like a revolution.

@Jammer "Wolverine on the other hand is just another superhero type game which we get every 6 months or so"

There's no new "big budget" superhero games in the same level of Insomniac Wolverine or Spiderman that came out in the last 6 months.

In fact, i don't think this year we got many superhero games either. There's Dispatch, a point & click adventure. Then next will be Deadpool VR and Marvel Cosmic Invasion. All has different genres.

I'm not sure what i want to play this weekend. Either Resonance of Fate, Valkyria Chronicles 4, or Uncharted 2...hmmmm 🤔

Finished:

• Ninja Gaiden 3: Razor's Edge / PS3 / Hard difficulty

Outside gaming, i'm just gonna watch It: Welcome to Derry and read a couple of manga that i recently bought.

Oh and Predator: Badlands is pretty good 👍

Have a great weekend everyone 🍻

Insomniac or any publisher / devs no need to worry because GTA 6 will be delayed again 😁

@Nicekix Ikr

Not to mention Ellie also suffers PTSD where she keeps getting flashback about Joel's dead. Then Tommy came and gaslighting her for living in peace. So yeah, it's normal that Ellie didn't let it go. She thinks if she find and finish Abby she would have some peace.

@Flaming_Kaiser Okay? 🤷‍♂️

@DennisReynolds I'm glad Neil rewrite Sam's role from the generic long lost evil brother. And Uncharted 4 arguably has the best main villain + final fight in the series. I don't like any of Uncharted 1-3 generic villains but Rafe character and that sword fight was amazing.

@TrollOfWar "They'll continue releasing games on PlayStation, right?"

Some games didn't release for PS like Bravely Default remaster, DQ Monsters: The Dark Prince, DQ Treasures, etc. I'm not surprised if SE will released less games on PS but more exclusives for Switch.

"Final Fantasy will continue selling best on PlayStation, correct?"

In Japan, FF Tactics Ivalice Chronicles sold best on Switch
https://www.gematsu.com/2025/10/famitsu-sales-9-29-25-10-5-25

Sure that's only one example and in one country. But i'm not surprised if future FF games will sell best on Nintendo platforms and not Playstation.

"Sony might be allowed to advertise the game with "PlayStation being the best place to play Final Fantasy"."

I don't know. Did recent Sony ads showed Final Fantasy or any words that say "Playstation as the best place to play Final Fantasy"?

"Should Sony stop their partnership with AMD, because Xbox also has AMD components?"

No they shouldn't especially when Sony already signed a long contract with AMD. But there's no exclusives contract between Sony and SE.

"These are business partnerships, where these companies hope to benefit financially from each other. This aren't "war alliances".

I never say they are war alliances. But that's why i said Sony should stop throwing a lot of money and support for SE. All PS exclusives from SE including big ones like FF XVI and Rebirth didn't give significant impact for PS5 sales. Meanwhile games like Black Myth Wukong not just sold a lot better than all PS exclusives from SE, but it managed to significantly boost PS5 sales.
https://www.playstationlifestyle.net/2024/08/21/black-myth-wukong-boosts-ps5-sales/#:~:text=Alibaba Tmall sees %27unusual%27 PS5,with the site since 2014.

It's all business right? Which is more reason for Sony to find better partnership who will give them more $$$$$. Cause right now, SE just doesn't worth the investment anymore.

@IntrepidWombat "Uncharted 4 and TLOU2 (didn't play Lost Legacy) definitely missed her"

FYI, Amy Hennig never work nor have any contributions at all for TloU series. And Uncharted 4 was much better than Uncharted 3 not just from sales but also everything.

"The responses to this comment thread remind me of the "leave the multi-million dollar company alone!" meme"

I only stated facts that ND is doing fine both financially and creatively without Amy Hennig. Even before she joined ND, the studio already done really well with Crash and J&D series.

But i guess you can't accept the fact that your beloved Amy Hennig isn't as important as you think 🤷‍♂️

"I think Hennig is a better writer than Druckmann and has done more and superior work than he has over the course of their respective careers"

Sure. So where are these "superior works" from Amy Hennig in the last decade since she left ND? 🤣

@Fiendish-Beaver iirc Zach said the protag is an original character. But i'm not surprise if we see at least one or two established character like Chris, Leon, Jill, or Claire.

I search a bit who's wrote the screenplay for this movie. Beside Zach himself, another writer is Shay Hatten who wrote screenplay for John Wick 3 & 4, Ballerina, Army of the Dead, and Rebel Moon. At least this movie will have decent / good action scenes.

Anyway. I'm really enjoyed Barbarian and Weapons. So i'm quite excited to see what Zach can do with this movie, which hopefully it will be good or even much better than previous RE live act movies.

@Rich33 "I used to see SE as an important developer of PS exclusives - but over the last number of years that has just reduced"

They're not PS important partner anymore. For PS exclusives, beside Rebirth and XVI, these past 6-7 years they made more mediocre crap than good games:

• Forspoken
• Valkyrie Elysium
• Foamstar
• Babylon's Fall
• Left Alive

@TrollOfWar Maybe SE still release FF or any of their games for PS. But their actions looks clear that they are done with Sony.

And that's why i said Sony should stop treating SE like a special partner and allocate their support / money for other 3rd party devs especially the ones who want to work closely with Sony. SE isn't an important partner for PS anymore.

"Square Enix may lose Sony’s substantial marketing support as well"

I think it's about time for Sony to stop their huge marketing support for SE and give it to other 3rd party devs who has great potential and really wants to team up with Sony.

SE already showed their stand that they don't want to work exclusively with Sony anymore. They're done with Sony. So there's no need for Sony to treat SE like they're a special partner. That era already done.

KH 4 and FF VII Rebirth + Part 3 are the only SE games on my wishlist. But this news makes me worried. Maybe i need to rethink my buying plan for SE games...

Yeah Playstation official merchandise are expensives and even overpriced. I want to get an official PS Icons Light and the size isn't big. But the price was around $30-40. So i bought the unofficial which was a lot cheaper.

I get it why Sony hunt these sellers. But if only they give more reasonable price for their official merchandise, people wouldn't need to buy fakes from these sellers.

@DennisReynolds I think it was really on her. iirc she said in one interview that she had a dream of making a Star Wars game, which was the biggest reason she left ND and joined Visceral / EA.

But that stupid article from IGN painted her as if she got unfair treatment and kicked out by Neil Druckman & Bruce Straley.