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Going to give this a go shortly.

Looking forward to a true non hand holding experience if the gameplay holds up. I don't mind some jank from a smaller or newer outfit, as it's often in those games you get some really incredible efforts through art and risk taking.

I remember how much a letdown tsushima was in this regard, being advertised as similiar and watching the map icon chasing madness pop up like any old Ubisoft game.

Hopefully this one is truly as advertised in that regard!

Definitely picking this up. There are certain types of games that have a certain charm because of the jank, this is one I know I will like because I like the set dressing despite how derivative it is now. One must remember, stalker was one of the first.

Bummer I was looking forward to this far more than Ghost of Yotei as a potential release window pickup based on what I've seen of both.

This looks so stupid. Just a game for streamers to pretend to enjoy to get views from their bored fans.

This sounds like a perfect subscription service game too bad it's not on either, and certainly won't be on Sony's for at least a year LOL...

I will wait for that day and be happy I didn't pay fp for it.

@Quintumply video no longer available?

@Scottyy 100% it does seem to have that vibe of a Spiderman 2 level sequel effort.

Of course it was. If it isn't hyper sexualised or adolescent looking female characters, and doesn't have a legacy obligation for inclusion, those across the pac ocean don't want it.

Sounds like a mediocre game with the most basic of gameplay, and an OK story to watch. I had hoped For more but the gameplay did always look pretty mid from what they showed.

To be fair Pushsquare, ever since the pro was released you guys don't even review base ps5 performance, which is a very bizarre and alienating choice to make.

The best game from Sony this gen by far.

Impeccable taste

Easily Wuchang. Stellar effort. Don't believe the hate.

The mini game doesn't look fun at all. The idea that a little girl like cyborg rides your back most of the game to justify that gimmick, I dunno. Just not really all that appealing.

I'm all for new IPS but don't introduce some sort of mechanic just to do so. It has to work with the combat mechanics and the overall flow of the game and I can tell you right now if what we're seeing is it.... Not showing well. It looks like it's basically really minor traversal between small samey square/rectangular rooms where you go into slow mo or stun merely to do some repetitive mini game so you can just rapid fire blow them away after.

Obviously we have to see more and reserve some level of judgment but I don't think it's showing very well here at all.

I feel like it looks more promising than lost soul aside at the very least.

If the game is designed around online and Co op elements, hard pass.

If they haven't changed the horrible loot system in all team ninja soulslikes, then this is a no go for me no matter the combat excellence.

Also, the complete lack of effort in updating the visual engine is getting to be less acceptable for this dev and what comes out of the Fromsoft camp.

@Bluemoon2008 I was referring to most 'fans of the souls like genre. '

you'd be hard-pressed to find someone that's a souls like fan that has not picked that game up it's one of the best non fromsoft efforts out there to date.

@Northern_munkey I've found value by just subbing for a few months(3 month option) if there's a few titles I actually want to play with the middle tier. I then kind of move those few titles to the front of my backlog / next to playlist and go from there.

I don't see value in just having an annual subscription of it because there have been quite a lot of s***** months even considering that recently it's been better let's not pretend like there's been a lot of poor offerings as well.

However I totally do agree that there can be a few games that you wanted to play but maybe didn't want to pay for or were waiting for steep sale. In that aspect the value kind of pays for the sub. Yet for me, some of those I probably would have never bought anyways. a few examples recently are robocop and another crab's treasure and Diablo, etc. However like in terms of a game like Lies of P there's no way I'm waiting 2 years. The game was incredible and I'm glad I paid full price for.

I just don't see value in the cost of a yearly sub of the service no matter the tier but I understand that im coming from a perspective of pretty hardcore gamer who plays pretty much everything that is considered great alongside a few gems needlessly slandered by by mainstream games media.

@kcarnes9051 yah that's totally my bad I completely looked at obscure pricing for ultimate. Corrected it.

It's good if you haven't played lies of p. Most fans of the genre have though, and getting games on your sub svc 2 years after release is meh for me.

For those of you that claim you can't compare Game Pass ultimate to PS plus essential and so the argument that this was a day when released on Game Pass is null, makes no sense. Which is the better VALUE? . That's the whole criticism here is that playStation when they divided their nonsense up into tiers, is just far too overpriced for what's on offer. which is 90% old games most fans of the platform have already played. I don't have an Xbox and bought it during release, but I sure has hell see the immense value GP is.

PS plus great if you are brand new to Playstation, and has value there, aside from that there is the occasional gem where there's a game you didn't want to pay for but we're interested in and of course that's awesome but when you have the competition releasing the same quality third party games day one for just a monthly sub equivalent to most people's coffee or beaar budget a week.
Lame

Something about this just looks so bland. In practice each of those weapons just blurred into looking identical in practice. All that flash can't hide what looks like button mashy fights in flat arenas over and over and over again.

@Nalim same, for the same reasons minusbtheb"pro."

Ironically I picked like the two worst Generations to buy into the platform day one. PS5, and Ps3 🤣

It would be pretty nuts for me to buy into the next console at launch especially with all of that and the fact that there's a clear trajectory Sony has gone in and it's not one I like.

If the Ps5 is anything to go by, the specs do not indicate an intention of keeping cost down. The incremental specs are merely to not infringe on the pc market especially considering their GPU component manufacturers have their toes dipped in both markets. This has been the unwritten law of the gaming space for 2 decades now.

Now on the cpu side it truly makes no sense to continue to bottleneck it. The "cost" of cpus is very low in comparison especially in terms of back end (non retail). This is primarily why buying into the PS5 pro was laughable for me. The same damn cpu power for hundreds more than the base model? Nah

It's doubtful the next console will be much less than the overpriced pro, if less at all.

@Gfoot what tweaks did you make to get it feeling smooth? Just so others no. I too had to tweak settings, but once I did it's not bad at all other than some upscale based visual quality issues.

@LiamCroft it's actually had 2 post launch updates.

Compared to Capcom this is night and day level of honesty and commitment. They've already released two patches in just a matter of a week and they still are cooking to try and get this thing running at its best.

Great game and can't wait to experience it as things get ironed out. Don't believe the lazy hate regarding the quality of the core game. It's a solid soulslike, that just needs more technical optimization.

@RobN oh yeah I can see it being much better to not have to play it on the series s for sure.

That aside, I'm not sure that many people especially with the title like lies a p though who haven't already played it are doing multiple playthroughs are coming back to it after a significant period Of time.

Lies of P is a great game albeit the level design is pretty trash structurally, but pretty visually. Had a great time with it. However most Souls like fans have already played it.
Great for the ones that don't like difficulty though and can turn it down and it watered down.

Lies of P and about two dozen other bangers/highly anticipated 3rd party titles that have released on gamepass day one this gen, are exactly why it's such a vastly superior service than ps plus.

And before all the Sony Bots come in to defend the company with comments like " but gamepass isn't profitable it's not sustainable to do that" blah blah blah blah blah. It's important to remember that you are Gamers you are the target you are not Sony shareholders and not supposed to be the ones rooting for as much profiteering Behavior as possible. You do not live in an economy or Society where the success of the company trickles down to you regardless of the b******* you tell yourself.

Game passes a far better service and even if it's not as profitable which is not proven by the way but if it's not as profitable as you may think, that just goes to show that they're willing to sacrifice profit in order to offer a compelling service to gamers and at the same time bring them into their ecosystem.

Whereas if you've been to Sony fan and playing on their platform for a decade or more every single good to great game that is offered on ps plus aside from a rare few are games you have likely already played.

Also kind of hilarious.... didn't Sony just buy a stake into tencent LOL.

Unfortunately, in my opinion, Sony/guerilla have learned the wrong lessons from those numbers. There is such room for improvement in the franchise. However, what often occurs at the upper echelons of mgmt, is this money mindset that believes if they change anything, even shortcomings and changes fans want, that it will impact revenue.

It's this non gamer centric boardroom like mindset that has really tarnished this medium and really turned Sony as a platform into a pretty scummy entity this gen.

I liked horizon, but was very disappointed with forbidden west and how overtly safe and unimproved much was beyond visuals and minor additions. Ironically, the sequel title can be swapped out for most of Sony's sequels of major ips in the last 8 years, and my opinions on them are often the same and for largely the same damn reasons.

This lawsuit will fail. The tencent title does enough to differentiate, and arguably expands and does better what is now a pretty formulaic open world design in horizon. They look to be even targeting an entire different hybrid genre. Sony doesn't have a f****** Monopoly on robotic animal designs.

I'm all for copy cats brave enough to expand and evolve ideas rather than playing these copy and paste sequels that taken an insane amount of time to develop for what ends up being the same damn thing.

All of these folks running defense on a game even though they've never played nor seen much other than some very clipped up combat montages. even after new facts are presented on its development as well as concerns over quality of gameplay from those that have actually played the game.

Wow...

Maybe work on that janky combat rather than having the protaganist escape from a Dino infested facility in panties. Lmfao.
Or maybe along with the Ms. Sassy Sinclair outfit I also get decent movement and combat added in if I pre-order?!... Jesus. Make it at least make sense for the setting if you have to pander.

At this is why Sony has really evolved into a pretty terribly run platform holder/publisher.

Looks great, and I stress looks. I get the feeling it is a bit button mashy and animation heavy.

There does seem to be something that looks off when the protaganist strikes enemies. The impact and sound they chose for that makes it look/sound like you are hitting pillows. It sounds better when you are getting hit though.

It's definitely flashy, but I still wonder how much of all that is just animations, and whether watching those and the finishers might become a drag especially if there isn't a ton of depth in the combat to initiate them.

Patch just dropped with promise of another in the coming days. Testing it now

Notes below

https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/2277560/view/498327923676152105?l=english

Patch just dropped with promise of another in the coming days. Testing it now

Notes below

https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/2277560/view/498327923676152105

Definitely more to the story than "polish" to do such an 11th hour delay.

Elden Ring/Erdtree success is well deserved.

I really hope, with all of that success they invest in upgrading their engine, meaningful pre/post release optomization, enriching their staff and refraining from the continued practice of egregious full price asset flip releases (and no, I'm not referring to Night Reign).

@Northern_munkey thanks man. Enjoy Banishers, I spent an ungodly amount of time on that one. Decent game, great story!

@Deadlyblack Nice! Hope your enjoying it. Happy gaming!

***UPDATE: after playing and testing all three graphics modes on a Base PS5 *** :

I first want to mention that in the graphic settings toggle there is a developer note that says if you choose balance mode they highly recommend putting your TV into 120hz mode and locking the frame rate because they know that screen tearing can occur if you don't. Which is at least cool they acknowledge there is a problem and offer solutions to mitigate it.

However I have found the opposite: With 120hz/Vrr the game runs best in my eyes with framerate target lock off, as well as sharpening turned off or at least 2 or less(the default is at 7 and artifacting, ghosting, etc are worse the higher it is but far less noticeable lower). I also left depth of field off as well as motion blur. Those may improve your experience or performance even more if it seems needed for you.

On a launch PS5 I'm getting the following:
I'm getting at or slightly above 60 fps all the time in prioritize framerate mode.
48-78 fps in balanced mode but it holds
most close to 49-62 fps
In prioritize graphics mode it hovers mostly between 47-55

Other things of note I've noticed:

there's a little bit of artifacting and stuttering if you slow Pan the camera but just moving normally you don't really notice it and as far as screen tearing I'm not seeing any of the screen tearing that this very short review said was so terrible. Mind you that's with vrr on, however this review was allegedly done with a PS5 Pro and I assume they would test those settings especially since the developer put in the settings menu to utilize 120 HZ features...
On a base PS5 with this level of detail I think the performance is pretty damn good in actually all three modes aside from some what looks like upscaling artifacting/ghosting around the protagonist during movement. I also can't stress enough how much better the game seems to run in any of the three modes using 120 hertz, vrr, alongside toggling off frame rate target lock.

Now to address some of the other comments in this very short review, especially environments looking awful. I don't know how the reviewer could possibly say such a thing. The game environments are more detailed than any from softgame put out to date. Even with the settings obviously reduced for console compared to PC this game has a great level of environmental detail and strong design.

I will update if I start seeing anything resembling the screen tearing the reviewer suggested(perhaps it was the ghosting they mistook for it, which again looks like old versions of fsr or similiar upscaler based artificating/ghosting. Much like jedi survivor.

I recommend prioritize fr mode (or balanced mode at the very least), 120hz, vrr on, framerate unlocked 1-off sharpening, motion blur off, depth of field low-off (haven't tried hdr, as it's usually garbage on Ps5). In performance mode the framerate stays within ps5's limited vrr window (above 48fps needed to see it engage), and ensures a smoother ride. 6ft away from your TV also a smart move for any sub 4k res /up scaling heavy game played on a 55 inch or greater TV.

So far I'm enjoying it, the combat animations are decent, but the overall quality as a soulslike remains to be seen. It's not lies of P level visual and technical polish by any means. For a 50 dollar debut offering from the devs, it's impressive regardless.

This is exactly why being outspoken on issues within the industry is crucial. A solid win for gamers.

@Northern_munkey agreed
100% getting this, despite the lazy review.

The more I read about this one, it sounds like a gem, perhaps even better than lord's, despite the technical issues, which plagues Fromsoft's subpar and aging visuals, copied and pasted animations and base models in every game they put out.

What bizarre review .

Someone else already said it here in the comment section but how is it that some games that basically identically mimic other games, get in depth, specific, and often praiseworthy reviews.......yet other games in specific genres just seem to be treated like some second rate b tier fair even if they do basically the same thing that they're inspired from And do a decent job at it.

You couple that with here getting a a clear and significant downgrade in overall review Impressions based on its technical State and yet other games get a complete pass on that s***. Basically if you're not a first-party studio, major AAA outfit, indie darling going viral, or fromsoft you just get absolutely slandered by some of these Outlets...

This didn't even get full review treatment...

I 100% agree with the selective gamer suggestion. I'm one of them that thought it interesting but not at full retail.

@Northern_munkey is it better than dirt 5?
I thought that game was absolutely terrible.

@thefourfoldroot1 agreed. I would have bought it day one if it wasn't double dipping full retail with a year's old game.

Glad to see Clair Obscure on there. The rest are a given although for those touting AC Shadows,... Take a look at the sales of the last 4 installments before you assume that's a successful number for the franchise. It's a fraction of what Valhalla did by this amount of time.

Lmfao the reality is, if it's on pc it's on Xbox. That's there whole direction going forward. So this all makes total sense.

I didn't really want a sifu sequel but I certainly didn't want the devs of that game and the unique talents that made it, to move onto some live service football *****.

However you do you. Anything is better than being a sequel factory.