If they're anything like the Oblivion remaster, they can keep them. I sincerely hope that they outsource them to another studio who's good with the engine.
I can't get excited for this game. I don't know why. This is my favorite super hero. It looks cool. There's just something very "first party Sony" about it, and I haven't enjoyed one of those in a while. Ghost of Tsushima, I think. I hope everyone enjoys it though.
RPCS3 is incredible, and it doesn't even need amazing hardware to run (though I've read that AVX-512 helps a lot). My system is an i7-8700 with a RTX A2000 6GB. What I find fun is that some games perform better in the emulator than they do on native hardware. Drakengard 3 is a good example of this. I like the game on PS3, but the frame drops can get wild - like playing a Power Point presentation. Emulated with a 60fps hack, it's smooth. I need to transfer my save file so that I can finally finish the game.
It was a comically bad PR move for them. Lots of unforced errors here, the largest of which is not building up to it with announcements on improvements that they plan to make to the storefront or anything of the sort. They dropped a bomb, walked away, and they're letting their partners absorb all of the flak. Putting the physical vs digital argument aside, this announcement and how they have (not) handled the fallout was a dumpster fire for them.
People who don't care one way or the other about physical or digital could eventually look at Sony's (lack of) reaction and really question whether or not this company deserves any sort of loyalty.
@cainhurst94 The plastic is symbolic in a way, but really, any other solution requires governments and corporations to do the right thing into perpetuity.
Full game data pressed to a disc means that, once I have this thing, I can use it. It doesn't matter if a company lobbyist contributes to a government official's reelection campaign (which is going to get laundered into buying a yacht anyway) who decides to vote the company's way on legislation - I have the data on the disc.
A solution without the plastic means that we have to rely on laws and rules and consumer protections applying the same way to every country on the globe to get us rights that come close to mirroring what we already have. Some court somewhere can still strip it, a company can go under, legislation can change. The disc is still a disc.
For me and a lot of other people, it's 100% about the plastic that we can hold in our hands.
@MrPeanutbutterz A most rational take - I didn't expect the anti-this vs anti-that discourse that these stories have produced. Like you said, the removal of an option hurts everybody, even the ones who don't take part.
On Black Ops - it would have been neat if there was cross platform matchmaking that went back to PS3 for the multiplayer. If this one is really not that improved, it may just be better to grab a PS3 copy on eBay.
Got to the end of Shin Megami Tensei III Nocturne last night - it was a good game. The difficulty curve was an interesting one - high in the beginning with a steep drop off towards the end. The art style of this era is fun to look at.
If I'm feeling more MegaTen, I could move on to Raidou Remastered or SMT V Vengeance. I did also finally beat the end of Trails in the Sky Chapter 1, so I could continue that as well. I'll for sure be playing some classic Resident Evil, maybe Nemesis since it's been a while.
I respliced the jank out of my trailer light wiring and knocked out yard work last night, so I'll be taking it easy indoors - we rescued two kittens this past week too, so it's a bit of a full house at the moment.
Most survival horrors are significantly cheaper than that as a huge number of them these days are made by indie studios. A lot of them pay homage to the PS1 era - games like Signalis, Conscript, Ground Zero, Echoes of the Living have launched in the $20 to $30 range.
With that being said, this looks like a banger, and a $50 price point seems fair. I'll need to wait for reviews, but yeah, if it's on the level of Tormented Souls II or Fobia, I'm on board.
I've been doing both for a while. My schtick has been to buy new releases and great deals on disc because I like collecting while paying rental prices for digital. My PC isn't playing AAA anything from this decade, but that's not what it's for.
"But PC has been digital for years! Why is it an option when PS5 goes digital?"
@Meowmixes98
Superior store fronts and more choices. When PlayStation loses what many people consider a selling point - physical media - it shines the light on the PSN vs. Steam/GOG/Epic/Humble environments. Physical is not an option anymore, so why would you stay with solely the objectively inferior digital distribution? Going to PC as a primary platform for new purchases is reevaluating the situation, accepting the circumstances, and selecting the better option.
This looks fantastic. Unicorn Overlord got me back into strategy games - Fire Emblem Three Houses didn't scratch that itch, but this looks like it might. Thanks for the head's up on the demo.
We have five generations of PlayStation available to us. My backlog is vast. I will be playing PlayStation 1 - 5 games for years and years to come.
One of the reasons that I prefer console is couch gaming - I work from home, and gaming on my PC there would involve sitting at the same desk, typing on the same keyboard, looking at the same monitors - no thanks. I did that when I was into Eve Online, and I'm not doing it again.
With that being said - I have a PC hooked up to my TV. It autoloads into Big Box. It's nothing special - an old HP SFF office computer with some buffed up cooling and a graphics card. It handles emulation up to PS3 / 360 and ~2018 and before games reasonably well. It handles like a console.
I think digital games are cool. I prefer physical, but I have purchased my share of digital - just not at full price. I like selection and competition - GOG is my favorite. Steam is ok, Epic is... present. Then there's all of the various publisher storefronts and competing places to buy keys. The refund policies are more generous, and you're not locked into a single ecosystem. The advances in Linux are very encouraging.
Physical games are fun to collect. I like having games that hold value. It's why I still run a PlayStation. Without physical games? Now you're comparing one digital only environment to the other. There's no question - the PC is 1,000% better.
They have to view every disc sold as revenue left on the table. Even if they make a couple dollars off of each one (speaking of third party games), they could be making so much more if they're the ones who get to sell them - they get a much bigger slice of the revenue. There is no financial benefit to continue printing discs. Sucks, but it is what it is.
Good for collectors, not much else. You want to know a free thing a lot of people would pay good money to have on disc? PT. One of the greatest "what if's" in gaming history.
@McDosy I have hundreds of discs. I still play the copy of Resident Evil 2 that I bought in 1998. It hasn't worn out. Never had one break on me. Never had one stolen. Never lost one in a disaster. I did, however, have a Steam account tied to an old ISP e-mail address. I lost access to that email account unexpectedly, and I could not recover the password. That Steam account with a few dozen games is lost to me forever. Isn't it interesting how our own experiences cause us to view things differently?
Your view of discs being redundant assumes that everyone who plays has an internet connection. There's still about 3 billion people on the planet who aren't using it. South Asia, Africa, South America - shoot, even in rugged areas of North America have issues getting reliable broadband. Over 400 million people in India don't have internet access. I'm sure the people on those areas who play games are just childish and fear-mongering, right? Many, many discs contain full, playable games. Most do. Yes, they copy to the hard drive - we know that. Blu-ray discs have always been about data density over read speed.
The impact to the secondary market is obvious. It hurts not just the people who make a living from it but the people who can only afford to game because of it.
This whole "Hmph, it doesn't affect me, why should I care, and why do YOU care?" attitude is strange. Your experiences, your circumstances, your preferences shape your world view. You like digital, and I'm glad for you. Getting pissed off at people who have objections because of their experiences, circumstances and preferences isn't going to change anyone's mind.
Value is another thing that I appreciate. My collection has value. If I get hit by a bus tomorrow, my son gets my games. He can hold on to them to play or he can sell the whole lot of them and buy a car. Have you read the ToS of any of the digital storefronts? Your library is not transferrable.
@BrokenByTheScream Heaven forbid someone falls on hard times and has to sell a PlayStation to make ends meet. Or go on military deployment. Or get married and have kids, so give up gaming for a few years to devote time to their young family. Or go off to college and swear off video games for the duration of the degree program to ensure that they graduate on time.
It would suck to be in that position only to get the opportunity to play years later and find that the games that you bought aren't yours to play anymore.
If they really are making good faith attempts to get ahold of the owners, that's something.
@PlayNation5 "You don’t want discs. You’re applying a legacy solution to a newer problem."
Yes I do. The only "newer problem" is created when physical media isn't available for purchase. There wasn't a problem before. Now there is.
1. It's an interesting hybrid solution, but it still requires the corporation to keep the game hosted and to continue to honor the license key. There's no game data here. It also contradicts your 6th bullet point.
2. There's a hand-waving answer if I've ever heard one. Let the governments of the world handle it - what could go wrong? First, there's the issue of governments versus private companies - you want a government to be able to force a private company to keep a server up and running into perpetuity? That's a dangerous precedent. What's the penalty if they don't? What happens if the company goes under? What happens when the UK passes legislation to place rules on a Japanese company? Those rules are not enforceable.They have no jurisdiction. Secondly, let's say everybody does play nice - corpos don't lobby politicians not to pass the law, and corpos follow the rules. You get it passed in Germany, Nigeria, Egypt, and New Zealand, but nowhere else. So - complying to only what they must, people in those countries are now protected. Everyone else can go kick rocks. That kind of legislation wouldn't be legal in many countries, would be unenforceable in most, and would be impossible to actually get in the vast majority.
3. Your superiority complex is showing. My collection is for me, and that's true with most people here. It's older than YouTube. It's probably older than you, as I can only imagine an adolescent being content with that kind of reductive strawman.
4. No, I can't sell on. I don't own it. Again, you want to create rules that require extra labor and production from every game studio. What about the small indie outlets? You're going to put that rule on the guy who makes a card game and apply it the same way to Activision's new Call of Duty? Indie developers who can't afford to follow this rule are now at a massive disadvantage to AAA devs already.
5. Sharing a disc is as easy is handing it to someone. What do you mean it was never possible? If my son wants to play a game, he goes to where I keep them, grabs it, and puts it in his PlayStation.
6. Welcome to real life. I have insurance on my stuff. I can replace it on the secondary market if my house gets hit with a tornado or my house burns down. If someone hacks my PSN and Sony won't work with me to get it back? There's no insurance coverage for that. I lose.
"If digital had the above in place, and none of them are much of a stretch for any vendor to add, then not one of you would miss discs beyond the nostalgia aspect."
You never address the core complaint in a way that makes sense - ownership. Your solution is to depend on the governments of the world and the corpos in the industry to do the right thing. When have either of those ever worked out? If they had, nobody would be upset in the first place.
Still making my way through SMT III Nocturne HD on PS4. Wow, I can't believe I slept on this game for so long.
With the end looming, it'll be time to once again find a game with hooks. As always, I'll try to get back into games that I couldn't stay with - maybe Trails in the sky FC, Romancing Saga 2: Revenge of the Seven, or Cronos The New Dawn.
Have a great weekend everybody, and have a very safe and happy Independence Day to my fellow Americans.
Sony absolutely can abandon a decade a physical purchases. It's what they did when PS4 launched - they looked at the last three generations, shrugged, and told people to get over it. They did it with PS Vita when PSP titles weren't even in the same form factor.
On the issue of need: Video games are toys. Nobody needs them. Our society isn't purely needs based. We fulfill wants as well. Video games aren't just for playing. They're for collecting sharing, gifting, and reselling as well. This isn't just about the games - there's an entire culture around the existence of the physical cartridges and discs.
On the issue of the environment: You're joking, right? If you believe that plastic sitting on people's shelves is a problem for the environment, do you also believe that the extra storage, network bandwidth, power consumption from compute, and power consumption from HVAC are just dandy? Get some consistency. If it's all about the environment for you, then you should be advocating for no video games at all - think of all the e-waste we would save.
One video that's blowing up is the "Official PlayStation Used Game Instructional Video" where they passive aggressively torched XBox over their weird DRM. The comments are what you would expect. Some are even pretty funny.
@Markatron84 The mention of Apple deleting the headphone jack reminds me of this bit of irony.
If you want a modern flagship phone with a headphone jack, SD Card support, and wireless charging - all things difficult to find all together if at all - do you know what phone to buy?
A Sony Xperia. Even the one that came out 11 days ago has all of it. You'd have to go back years to find a Samsung phone with all of that built in.
Yes, digital moves more units. They have sales where they can sell access to games like Mass Effect: Legendary Edition for $7. That's awesome. If I didn't have it on disc, I'd take that deal if I look at it as a rental.
When Sony sells a game digitally, they get not only a license fee, they get a direct cut of the purchase price. They already make a lot more from a digital game than they do from a disc based game because they're acting as the licensor, host, and retailer.
The dollar amounts are important, but I think they're a little misleading in determining popularity. What it does tell us is why they're doing it - for every disc based game they sell, it's revenue that they're not getting.
I was just thinking about how huge my backlog is. Potentially large enough not to care about another generation.
Sony will likely take the "Abandon over a decade of physical purchases, and force fans to hold onto their PS4s and PS5s to play them." route. They've already done this once - PS4 had zero backwards compatibility. A PS5 and a Frankenstein'd BC PS3 are going to be the best way to play our disc based games.
I guess my future if I want any new game is to hope it releases on GOG.
It was a good run, PlayStation. I got my first PlayStation in 1998. I suppose 30 years isn't too bad. I'm happy at least that we'll get Resident Evil Veronica on disc.
@Czar_Khastik Silly, useless but of trivia: The RE in RE Engine is actually short for REach for the Moon. It doesn't make a lick of sense, but there it is.
Bring on September. There is a couple of Trails releases that I'll pick up, but this one I'll play day one for sure.
The writing and production credits for Monfette signal a dumpster fire in progress. If this ever actually makes it to the screen, it's going to be awful.
Give me that sweet 24fps so that I can feel like I'm back in the projection booth again (or is it 48fps? Not sure if showing each frame twice actually doubles the FPS or not). I'm looking forward to the DF breakdown after this game cones out more than anything.
TLoU Remastered was really excellent. As sharp as Part 1 is, I don't know if the juice was worth the squeeze compared to how Uncharted would have been. Of course, then we'd want Uncharted 2 done as well.
@Monstermash40 They seem to be losing a ton of money on software at the moment. The Bungie write-down is the most notable. I imagine (though I could be wrong) that their margins aren't looking great for first party titles. Maybe if Concord or Marathon had performed better, they could entertain something like that? I just don't see it happening though.
Still playing through SMT III Nocturne and enjoying it. It really isn't as difficult as the memes suggest.
Something more actiony sounds appealing too. I'll troll my backlog and see what strikes my fancy.
Hope to knock out my outdoor work before it hits 90F today, just need some of this morning dew to cook off so I can cut the grass. We'll be closer to 100F next week.
DOA2 and 3 are some of the best fighting games of that generation. Come to think of it, we were in a bit of a silver age of fighting games back then, weren't we? Marvel vs. Capcom 2, Tekken 5, Virtua Fighter 4, Soul Caliber 2, definitely some more that I'm missing. It's a shame that the series has fallen off so hard.
I like a few Canadian things. Maple Syrup. Bacon. Les Stroud. Blended whiskey. VGP is on the list too. It has been one of my favorite game stores for a while now - great deals, especially with the US exchange rate and their shipping rates. Glad they're sticking to their guns here.
Wow, the arrogance. It's as if they're saying, "What are you going to do, not buy it?" They have a point in that - it's going to be a huge game regardless. They can afford to make it more expensive, bog it down with micro transactions, and not even put a disc in the box. No amount of negative press will stop them from moving tens of millions of units.
@MrPeanutbutterz Yes, that's exactly my solution. If Sony doesn't do physical media anymore, then it loses its appeal to me, and the PC becomes a better prospect. I don't care that they stopped shipping physical media a decade ago; if neither of them have it anymore, then that point as moot.
I don't have a huge issue with the price, it's the performance that's not matching up.
I'd consider it if I wasn't married to physical games. Gotta have my a disc, gotta have a drive. When Sony no longer offers that, then yeah, I'll be looking at something like this, but it won't be a Steam box - it'll be a custom build with SteamOS.
Looks like a sound list for the first half of the year. I've only played a couple, though I anticipate that I'll add Crimson Desert after the price has had a chance to calm down. Maybe they'll put out some DLC and release a complete edition down the line.
I think I'm going to buckle down and finish my vehicle gate so that I can move my trailer to the back yard.
Speaking of the trailer, I replaced the broken deck board, and now the rest just looks terrible. I may just go ahead and do all of them. I also don't like the connectors that the previous owner used when splicing in new lights, so I may also go around and re-splice all of the connections with solder and heat shrink.
For games, I started SMT III Nocturne. What was I thinking? I have a strategy for Matador. A few more levels, and I should be able to go try again.
I never did get around to RE Zero last week. I am in a RE mood, but I may switch gears. I have 136 hours in RE2 Remake, and I don't have the platinum. Maybe I'll go for that.
Lastly, I was thinking about what Metroidvania I'd want to go to next, and it occurred to me that I never actually beat Super Metroid. How embarrassing. That will be my palette cleanser.
Have a good weekend, and a happy Father's Day to my fellow dads.
I find it interesting that they're remaking Golden and not the base game like they did with P3 (to sell us the Aegis DLC later, which I suppose is a step up from having to rebuy the whole game again a la P5/P5R).
Magic shooters are so neat as a concept, but I had my fill with Ghostwire Tokyo. This one seems like the kind of game you look at once or twice, say "Oh, neat" and move on.
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Re: Fallout 3, New Vegas PS5 Remasters Confirmed by Bethesda
If they're anything like the Oblivion remaster, they can keep them. I sincerely hope that they outsource them to another studio who's good with the engine.
Re: This Wolverine PS5 Trailer Is Going to Sell a Lot of Copies This Holiday
@dark_knightmare2 What's wrong with finding Sony's style stale? How does Microsoft and Nintendo each having a distinct style figure into this?
Re: This Wolverine PS5 Trailer Is Going to Sell a Lot of Copies This Holiday
I can't get excited for this game. I don't know why. This is my favorite super hero. It looks cool. There's just something very "first party Sony" about it, and I haven't enjoyed one of those in a while. Ghost of Tsushima, I think. I hope everyone enjoys it though.
Re: With the PS3's Store Shutting Down, Emulator Claims 75% Compatibility with Console's Library
RPCS3 is incredible, and it doesn't even need amazing hardware to run (though I've read that AVX-512 helps a lot). My system is an i7-8700 with a RTX A2000 6GB. What I find fun is that some games perform better in the emulator than they do on native hardware. Drakengard 3 is a good example of this. I like the game on PS3, but the frame drops can get wild - like playing a Power Point presentation. Emulated with a 60fps hack, it's smooth. I need to transfer my save file so that I can finally finish the game.
Re: Sony's Social Media Still Toxic Two Weeks After PS5 Discs Debacle
It was a comically bad PR move for them. Lots of unforced errors here, the largest of which is not building up to it with announcements on improvements that they plan to make to the storefront or anything of the sort. They dropped a bomb, walked away, and they're letting their partners absorb all of the flak. Putting the physical vs digital argument aside, this announcement and how they have (not) handled the fallout was a dumpster fire for them.
People who don't care one way or the other about physical or digital could eventually look at Sony's (lack of) reaction and really question whether or not this company deserves any sort of loyalty.
Re: Here Come the Lawsuits! Sony's Physical Disc Debacle Likely to Keep Its Lawyers Busy
@cainhurst94 The plastic is symbolic in a way, but really, any other solution requires governments and corporations to do the right thing into perpetuity.
Full game data pressed to a disc means that, once I have this thing, I can use it. It doesn't matter if a company lobbyist contributes to a government official's reelection campaign (which is going to get laundered into buying a yacht anyway) who decides to vote the company's way on legislation - I have the data on the disc.
A solution without the plastic means that we have to rely on laws and rules and consumer protections applying the same way to every country on the globe to get us rights that come close to mirroring what we already have. Some court somewhere can still strip it, a company can go under, legislation can change. The disc is still a disc.
For me and a lot of other people, it's 100% about the plastic that we can hold in our hands.
Re: 'Bare Bones' PS5 Black Ops Ports Reportedly Have More Players Than Latest Game, Already Best Sellers on PS Store
@MrPeanutbutterz A most rational take - I didn't expect the anti-this vs anti-that discourse that these stories have produced. Like you said, the removal of an option hurts everybody, even the ones who don't take part.
On Black Ops - it would have been neat if there was cross platform matchmaking that went back to PS3 for the multiplayer. If this one is really not that improved, it may just be better to grab a PS3 copy on eBay.
Re: Talking Point: What Are You Playing This Weekend? - Issue 641
Got to the end of Shin Megami Tensei III Nocturne last night - it was a good game. The difficulty curve was an interesting one - high in the beginning with a steep drop off towards the end. The art style of this era is fun to look at.
If I'm feeling more MegaTen, I could move on to Raidou Remastered or SMT V Vengeance. I did also finally beat the end of Trails in the Sky Chapter 1, so I could continue that as well. I'll for sure be playing some classic Resident Evil, maybe Nemesis since it's been a while.
I respliced the jank out of my trailer light wiring and knocked out yard work last night, so I'll be taking it easy indoors - we rescued two kittens this past week too, so it's a bit of a full house at the moment.
Have a great weekend, everybody.
Re: This Developer Wants You to Pay Less for PS5 Survival Horror
Most survival horrors are significantly cheaper than that as a huge number of them these days are made by indie studios. A lot of them pay homage to the PS1 era - games like Signalis, Conscript, Ground Zero, Echoes of the Living have launched in the $20 to $30 range.
With that being said, this looks like a banger, and a $50 price point seems fair. I'll need to wait for reviews, but yeah, if it's on the level of Tormented Souls II or Fobia, I'm on board.
Re: 'PS5 Has Put a Dampener on Gaming': 45% of Enthusiasts 'Seriously Considering' Leaving Sony for PC
I've been doing both for a while. My schtick has been to buy new releases and great deals on disc because I like collecting while paying rental prices for digital. My PC isn't playing AAA anything from this decade, but that's not what it's for.
"But PC has been digital for years! Why is it an option when PS5 goes digital?"
@Meowmixes98
Superior store fronts and more choices. When PlayStation loses what many people consider a selling point - physical media - it shines the light on the PSN vs. Steam/GOG/Epic/Humble environments. Physical is not an option anymore, so why would you stay with solely the objectively inferior digital distribution? Going to PC as a primary platform for new purchases is reevaluating the situation, accepting the circumstances, and selecting the better option.
Re: 'No Disc, No Buy': Even Metal Gear Solid's Snake Is Mad at Sony's Physical Games Decision
@Stevemalkpus He has Ghost of Yōtei on his shelf, so it's probably just out of frame.
Re: Try Out Anime Tactical RPG Brigandine Abyss with a Free Demo on PS5 This Month
@Oram77 Right? It took a couple tries to really get into it, but once I did, it was an effortless platinum.
Re: Try Out Anime Tactical RPG Brigandine Abyss with a Free Demo on PS5 This Month
This looks fantastic. Unicorn Overlord got me back into strategy games - Fire Emblem Three Houses didn't scratch that itch, but this looks like it might. Thanks for the head's up on the demo.
Re: Poll: Are You Considering Leaving PlayStation for PC?
We have five generations of PlayStation available to us. My backlog is vast. I will be playing PlayStation 1 - 5 games for years and years to come.
One of the reasons that I prefer console is couch gaming - I work from home, and gaming on my PC there would involve sitting at the same desk, typing on the same keyboard, looking at the same monitors - no thanks. I did that when I was into Eve Online, and I'm not doing it again.
With that being said - I have a PC hooked up to my TV. It autoloads into Big Box. It's nothing special - an old HP SFF office computer with some buffed up cooling and a graphics card. It handles emulation up to PS3 / 360 and ~2018 and before games reasonably well. It handles like a console.
I think digital games are cool. I prefer physical, but I have purchased my share of digital - just not at full price. I like selection and competition - GOG is my favorite. Steam is ok, Epic is... present. Then there's all of the various publisher storefronts and competing places to buy keys. The refund policies are more generous, and you're not locked into a single ecosystem. The advances in Linux are very encouraging.
Physical games are fun to collect. I like having games that hold value. It's why I still run a PlayStation. Without physical games? Now you're comparing one digital only environment to the other. There's no question - the PC is 1,000% better.
Re: 'They Wait for This Storm to Pass': No Chance of Sony Walking Back Its Decision to Kill Discs, Warns Analyst
They have to view every disc sold as revenue left on the table. Even if they make a couple dollars off of each one (speaking of third party games), they could be making so much more if they're the ones who get to sell them - they get a much bigger slice of the revenue. There is no financial benefit to continue printing discs. Sucks, but it is what it is.
Re: Control Resonant's Fancy PS5 Steelbook Edition Flaunted in the Wake of Sony Ditching Discs
@PercyChuggs I will, thanks buddy.
Re: Originally Free, You Can Now Pay $70 to Own the Worst Silent Hill Game
Good for collectors, not much else. You want to know a free thing a lot of people would pay good money to have on disc? PT. One of the greatest "what if's" in gaming history.
Re: Reaction: Travelling the World Made Me Realise What PlayStation Is About to Lose
@McDosy I have hundreds of discs. I still play the copy of Resident Evil 2 that I bought in 1998. It hasn't worn out. Never had one break on me. Never had one stolen. Never lost one in a disaster. I did, however, have a Steam account tied to an old ISP e-mail address. I lost access to that email account unexpectedly, and I could not recover the password. That Steam account with a few dozen games is lost to me forever. Isn't it interesting how our own experiences cause us to view things differently?
Your view of discs being redundant assumes that everyone who plays has an internet connection. There's still about 3 billion people on the planet who aren't using it. South Asia, Africa, South America - shoot, even in rugged areas of North America have issues getting reliable broadband. Over 400 million people in India don't have internet access. I'm sure the people on those areas who play games are just childish and fear-mongering, right? Many, many discs contain full, playable games. Most do. Yes, they copy to the hard drive - we know that. Blu-ray discs have always been about data density over read speed.
The impact to the secondary market is obvious. It hurts not just the people who make a living from it but the people who can only afford to game because of it.
This whole "Hmph, it doesn't affect me, why should I care, and why do YOU care?" attitude is strange. Your experiences, your circumstances, your preferences shape your world view. You like digital, and I'm glad for you. Getting pissed off at people who have objections because of their experiences, circumstances and preferences isn't going to change anyone's mind.
Value is another thing that I appreciate. My collection has value. If I get hit by a bus tomorrow, my son gets my games. He can hold on to them to play or he can sell the whole lot of them and buy a car. Have you read the ToS of any of the digital storefronts? Your library is not transferrable.
Re: PS5 Fans Panic Over 'Lost Games' Clause, But There's More to the Story
@BrokenByTheScream Empathy is snark now? How come nobody told me?
See, that was snark.
Re: PS5 Fans Panic Over 'Lost Games' Clause, But There's More to the Story
@BrokenByTheScream Heaven forbid someone falls on hard times and has to sell a PlayStation to make ends meet. Or go on military deployment. Or get married and have kids, so give up gaming for a few years to devote time to their young family. Or go off to college and swear off video games for the duration of the degree program to ensure that they graduate on time.
It would suck to be in that position only to get the opportunity to play years later and find that the games that you bought aren't yours to play anymore.
If they really are making good faith attempts to get ahold of the owners, that's something.
Re: Poll: Vote for Your PS5 Game of the Month (June 2026)
The demo for Elliott was excellent. Too many other things to play at the moment, but this will be a November / December pickup for me.
Re: Sony Will Have Capacity to Continue Manufacturing Some Game Discs Beyond 2028 Cut-Off Date
@PlayNation5 "You don’t want discs. You’re applying a legacy solution to a newer problem."
Yes I do. The only "newer problem" is created when physical media isn't available for purchase. There wasn't a problem before. Now there is.
1. It's an interesting hybrid solution, but it still requires the corporation to keep the game hosted and to continue to honor the license key. There's no game data here. It also contradicts your 6th bullet point.
2. There's a hand-waving answer if I've ever heard one. Let the governments of the world handle it - what could go wrong? First, there's the issue of governments versus private companies - you want a government to be able to force a private company to keep a server up and running into perpetuity? That's a dangerous precedent. What's the penalty if they don't? What happens if the company goes under? What happens when the UK passes legislation to place rules on a Japanese company? Those rules are not enforceable.They have no jurisdiction. Secondly, let's say everybody does play nice - corpos don't lobby politicians not to pass the law, and corpos follow the rules. You get it passed in Germany, Nigeria, Egypt, and New Zealand, but nowhere else. So - complying to only what they must, people in those countries are now protected. Everyone else can go kick rocks. That kind of legislation wouldn't be legal in many countries, would be unenforceable in most, and would be impossible to actually get in the vast majority.
3. Your superiority complex is showing. My collection is for me, and that's true with most people here. It's older than YouTube. It's probably older than you, as I can only imagine an adolescent being content with that kind of reductive strawman.
4. No, I can't sell on. I don't own it. Again, you want to create rules that require extra labor and production from every game studio. What about the small indie outlets? You're going to put that rule on the guy who makes a card game and apply it the same way to Activision's new Call of Duty? Indie developers who can't afford to follow this rule are now at a massive disadvantage to AAA devs already.
5. Sharing a disc is as easy is handing it to someone. What do you mean it was never possible? If my son wants to play a game, he goes to where I keep them, grabs it, and puts it in his PlayStation.
6. Welcome to real life. I have insurance on my stuff. I can replace it on the secondary market if my house gets hit with a tornado or my house burns down. If someone hacks my PSN and Sony won't work with me to get it back? There's no insurance coverage for that. I lose.
"If digital had the above in place, and none of them are much of a stretch for any vendor to add, then not one of you would miss discs beyond the nostalgia aspect."
You never address the core complaint in a way that makes sense - ownership. Your solution is to depend on the governments of the world and the corpos in the industry to do the right thing. When have either of those ever worked out? If they had, nobody would be upset in the first place.
Re: Talking Point: What Are You Playing This Weekend? - Issue 640
Still making my way through SMT III Nocturne HD on PS4. Wow, I can't believe I slept on this game for so long.
With the end looming, it'll be time to once again find a game with hooks. As always, I'll try to get back into games that I couldn't stay with - maybe Trails in the sky FC, Romancing Saga 2: Revenge of the Seven, or Cronos The New Dawn.
Have a great weekend everybody, and have a very safe and happy Independence Day to my fellow Americans.
Re: PS5 Disc Drives Limited to One Per Order, Sony Acknowledges High Demand
Thanks for the heads up. I went ahead and bought one.
Re: Reaction: PlayStation's Reputation Is at Rock Bottom - Where Do We Go from Here?
Sony absolutely can abandon a decade a physical purchases. It's what they did when PS4 launched - they looked at the last three generations, shrugged, and told people to get over it. They did it with PS Vita when PSP titles weren't even in the same form factor.
Re: Onimusha PS5 Has Actually Brought Its Launch Forward to 4th September
Outstanding news. I'll get some Onimusha in before the NFL season kicks off.
Capcom, you're alright with me.
Re: PlayStation's Plan to Kill Physical Games Has Spawned Not One But Many Online Petitions
@ThePlaystationStan
On the issue of need: Video games are toys. Nobody needs them. Our society isn't purely needs based. We fulfill wants as well. Video games aren't just for playing. They're for collecting sharing, gifting, and reselling as well. This isn't just about the games - there's an entire culture around the existence of the physical cartridges and discs.
On the issue of the environment: You're joking, right? If you believe that plastic sitting on people's shelves is a problem for the environment, do you also believe that the extra storage, network bandwidth, power consumption from compute, and power consumption from HVAC are just dandy? Get some consistency. If it's all about the environment for you, then you should be advocating for no video games at all - think of all the e-waste we would save.
Re: Sony Takes Social Media Time Out After Controversially Killing Physical Games
One video that's blowing up is the "Official PlayStation Used Game Instructional Video" where they passive aggressively torched XBox over their weird DRM. The comments are what you would expect. Some are even pretty funny.
Re: PlayStation Consoles to Stop Getting Disc-Based Physical Releases in 2028
@Markatron84 The mention of Apple deleting the headphone jack reminds me of this bit of irony.
If you want a modern flagship phone with a headphone jack, SD Card support, and wireless charging - all things difficult to find all together if at all - do you know what phone to buy?
A Sony Xperia. Even the one that came out 11 days ago has all of it. You'd have to go back years to find a Samsung phone with all of that built in.
Re: Just 15% of All PS5 Software Was Purchased Physically Last Quarter
A few things -
The dollar amounts are important, but I think they're a little misleading in determining popularity. What it does tell us is why they're doing it - for every disc based game they sell, it's revenue that they're not getting.
Re: PS6 Will Be a Digital Console, And Sony Has Huge Questions to Answer About Backwards Compatibility
I was just thinking about how huge my backlog is. Potentially large enough not to care about another generation.
Sony will likely take the "Abandon over a decade of physical purchases, and force fans to hold onto their PS4s and PS5s to play them." route. They've already done this once - PS4 had zero backwards compatibility. A PS5 and a Frankenstein'd BC PS3 are going to be the best way to play our disc based games.
I guess my future if I want any new game is to hope it releases on GOG.
Re: PlayStation Consoles to Stop Getting Disc-Based Physical Releases in 2028
It was a good run, PlayStation. I got my first PlayStation in 1998. I suppose 30 years isn't too bad. I'm happy at least that we'll get Resident Evil Veronica on disc.
Re: 'We're Not Worried': Onimusha Producer Stares Down September's Insane PS5 Release Schedule
@Czar_Khastik Silly, useless but of trivia: The RE in RE Engine is actually short for REach for the Moon. It doesn't make a lick of sense, but there it is.
Bring on September. There is a couple of Trails releases that I'll pick up, but this one I'll play day one for sure.
Re: Persona Is Reportedly the Latest Game Series to Be Adapted for TV
The writing and production credits for Monfette signal a dumpster fire in progress. If this ever actually makes it to the screen, it's going to be awful.
Re: GTA 6 Not Expected to Run at 60fps on Any PS5 Console
Give me that sweet 24fps so that I can feel like I'm back in the projection booth again (or is it 48fps? Not sure if showing each frame twice actually doubles the FPS or not). I'm looking forward to the DF breakdown after this game cones out more than anything.
Re: Rumour: Naughty Dog Chose to Remake The Last of Us 1 for PS5 Instead of Uncharted 1
TLoU Remastered was really excellent. As sharp as Part 1 is, I don't know if the juice was worth the squeeze compared to how Uncharted would have been. Of course, then we'd want Uncharted 2 done as well.
Re: Rumour: PS6 Costs Sony Almost $1,000 to Make Right Now
@Monstermash40 They seem to be losing a ton of money on software at the moment. The Bungie write-down is the most notable. I imagine (though I could be wrong) that their margins aren't looking great for first party titles. Maybe if Concord or Marathon had performed better, they could entertain something like that? I just don't see it happening though.
Re: Talking Point: What Are You Playing This Weekend? - Issue 639
Still playing through SMT III Nocturne and enjoying it. It really isn't as difficult as the memes suggest.
Something more actiony sounds appealing too. I'll troll my backlog and see what strikes my fancy.
Hope to knock out my outdoor work before it hits 90F today, just need some of this morning dew to cook off so I can cut the grass. We'll be closer to 100F next week.
Stay cool out there, everybody.
Re: Mini Review: Dead or Alive 6: Last Round (PS5) - Dead on Arrival
DOA2 and 3 are some of the best fighting games of that generation. Come to think of it, we were in a bit of a silver age of fighting games back then, weren't we? Marvel vs. Capcom 2, Tekken 5, Virtua Fighter 4, Soul Caliber 2, definitely some more that I'm missing. It's a shame that the series has fallen off so hard.
Re: Physical Retailers Refuse to Sell GTA 6 Over Decision to Skip Discs
I like a few Canadian things. Maple Syrup. Bacon. Les Stroud. Blended whiskey. VGP is on the list too. It has been one of my favorite game stores for a while now - great deals, especially with the US exchange rate and their shipping rates. Glad they're sticking to their guns here.
Re: GTA 6 Physical Edition Doesn't Come with Discs, It's a Code in the Box
Wow, the arrogance. It's as if they're saying, "What are you going to do, not buy it?" They have a point in that - it's going to be a huge game regardless. They can afford to make it more expensive, bog it down with micro transactions, and not even put a disc in the box. No amount of negative press will stop them from moving tens of millions of units.
Re: Valve's New Steam Machine Costs Almost Twice as Much as a PS5
@MrPeanutbutterz Yes, that's exactly my solution. If Sony doesn't do physical media anymore, then it loses its appeal to me, and the PC becomes a better prospect. I don't care that they stopped shipping physical media a decade ago; if neither of them have it anymore, then that point as moot.
Re: Valve's New Steam Machine Costs Almost Twice as Much as a PS5
I don't have a huge issue with the price, it's the performance that's not matching up.
I'd consider it if I wasn't married to physical games. Gotta have my a disc, gotta have a drive. When Sony no longer offers that, then yeah, I'll be looking at something like this, but it won't be a Steam box - it'll be a custom build with SteamOS.
Re: God of War Laufey Part of PS5 Dev's Plans from the Start, Pitched in 2018
Phranque? Seriously? The whole idea of Laufey is cool. Really cool. I just hate everything about the execution up to this point.
Re: Feature: The 10 Best PS5 Games of 2026 So Far
Looks like a sound list for the first half of the year. I've only played a couple, though I anticipate that I'll add Crimson Desert after the price has had a chance to calm down. Maybe they'll put out some DLC and release a complete edition down the line.
Re: Talking Point: What Are You Playing This Weekend? - Issue 638
I think I'm going to buckle down and finish my vehicle gate so that I can move my trailer to the back yard.
Speaking of the trailer, I replaced the broken deck board, and now the rest just looks terrible. I may just go ahead and do all of them. I also don't like the connectors that the previous owner used when splicing in new lights, so I may also go around and re-splice all of the connections with solder and heat shrink.
For games, I started SMT III Nocturne. What was I thinking? I have a strategy for Matador. A few more levels, and I should be able to go try again.
I never did get around to RE Zero last week. I am in a RE mood, but I may switch gears. I have 136 hours in RE2 Remake, and I don't have the platinum. Maybe I'll go for that.
Lastly, I was thinking about what Metroidvania I'd want to go to next, and it occurred to me that I never actually beat Super Metroid. How embarrassing. That will be my palette cleanser.
Have a good weekend, and a happy Father's Day to my fellow dads.
Re: This Onimusha: Way of the Sword Retail Listing Is Making People Think It's Launching Early
@tselliot I'd scoff at that too if the same company hadn't pushed forward a major release this year - they launched Pragmata a week early.
Re: Persona 4 Revival Gameplay Showcase Covers Combat Changes, New Content, and More
I find it interesting that they're remaking Golden and not the base game like they did with P3 (to sell us the Aegis DLC later, which I suppose is a step up from having to rebuy the whole game again a la P5/P5R).
Re: Opinion: This PS5 Magic Shooter Has Been the Perfect Summer Distraction
Magic shooters are so neat as a concept, but I had my fill with Ghostwire Tokyo. This one seems like the kind of game you look at once or twice, say "Oh, neat" and move on.
Re: GTA 6 PS5 Pre-Orders Open on 25th June, Cover Art Revealed
I won't even be playing it, but I am looking forward to all of the videos breaking down the inevitable technical issues.