I like the idea of this, but the two art styles seem diametrically opposed, they really don't gel at all, as if different teams worked on each with little conferring. Hopefully it works.
Hard to pick just 5 to be honest. I've got my eyes on at least 25 on that list. If even half of them deliver it will be another strong year.
While I am not the biggest fan of Rockstar's gameplay there is no doubting a new R* game, and even more so a new GTA game, is a seismic event in gaming. Personally I am always fascinated to see what it possible with a comparatively unlimited budget. But it would be nice to see some actual gameplay innovation.
@lazarus11 Iām all for subjective opinions, and if you think KCD2 is a better game, or a better RPG, and deserved the award⦠good for you. As I said, like what you like.
But to try and suggest Expedition 33 isnāt an RPG is some gaslighting nonsense. Itās such a bad take itās hilariously funny.
I have a brain, and after 40 years playing games I know what an RPG is dude⦠and even if I didnāt the Gameās own description is āClair Obscur: Expedition 33 is a turn-based RPG experienceā. Every review I read calls it a role playing game even the RPG Fan website, who you would think knows what an RPG is, gave it 99/100 saying āClair Obscur: Expedition 33 is the single most impressive debut RPG Iāve ever played.ā
But no⦠random guy on the internet says itās ānot an RPGā with absolutely no reasoning. Must be right then. LMFAO!!! š¤£š¤£š¤£
Continuing with the Remedy Verse. Having played Alan Wake: Remastered and it's DLC, Alan Wake's American Nightmare, Quantum Break and Control recently I am now moving onto the Control DLC and then Alan Wake 2 for the first time.
Skate Story and Clair Obscur DLC are backup plans if I feel like a breather.
She has the husky sultry voice for it. Just heard her as Augusta in Wuthering Waves where she does a good job. But this is a different role, hopefully she's great.
Why not? If the game has a low enough technical scope to run on it. Expect to see that for many more years to come. Not every game has to push boundaries.
@lazarus11 Clair Obscur is still an RPG and to many still the best RPG this year, which is why it won.
@TheArt Denser doesn't necessarily mean better, KCD2 is great if you like that, but to many it's too hardcore, too impenetrable hence not as good as Expedition 33 to those voting.
I respect you both may disagree, nothing wrong with that, it's subjective opinions at the end of the day. Enjoy what you like.
It's like comparing Forza Horizon and Gran Turismo as best racing game, there are no wrong answers, it's what you enjoy.
@lazarus11 Depends what you define as an RPG. (Again back to semantics) But I think most would consider it an RPG.
Yet to some "role playing" as a plumber that jumps on people's heads could be considered role playing even if Mario is a platformer, every game is an RPG in that regard. But assuming you have to make decisions to shape the narrative then yet Exp 33 does have that... at least at the end! It also has skill trees, weapon and armour upgrades, turn based menu driven combat. All tropes of RPGs. Not sure you will get many agreeing it isn't. But I'd agree it is RPG-lite compared to something like KCD2 which is about as dense as you'll get.
@Reyzore They wouldn't supply that information. I think it's exceptionally hard to make hard and fast rules here because I can easily see loop holes and edge cases where games may miss out, or be included if you start putting arbitrary lines in the sand like that. It isn't easy.
Whereas it's very easy to say "I don't like something" without having a workable solution.
I'd also push back on your "because these are games that need visibility to survive, many of them" point. I'm not sure that is true here. I'd posit that any indie game that is getting nominated, or is close to getting nominated, for a TGA award will almost certainly have reached some sort of major success, these aren't the games/studios that REALLY need the visibility to survive, it's the ones that haven't seen that success at all. The awards come AFTER the success, they aren't the cause of it. Though obviously being nominated it will help further that success.
Either way. We both agree the criteria should be clarified, but I don't think it will change. Sadly.
@Reyzore My point is that the definitions need to be better. Like many gaming terms "Indie", "AA" or "AAA" don't have a formal definition.
Sandfall is an Independent studio as they are wholly owned by themselves, the fact they also have funding from elsewhere doesn't change the fact they are independent.
But are they what we would term "indie"? Probably not in my eyes, which is why I said we need better guidance on what is and isn't included here. We've already had Dave the Diver vs Baldurs Gate 3 debacle, and this should have been clarified previously. I agree i'd like to see this focused on even smaller games, or have another award.
But lets also be clear that all the "indie" nominees (except perhaps Hades 2 which I believe was wholly self-funded, a rarity) had funding from larger companies, whether it's Ball X Pit, Blue Prince, Silksong all taking Game Pass / PS+ money and/or government funding, Dispatch with private VC and then Critical Role, Despelote through Microsoft's Developer Acceleration program.
Let me ask you this. How would you define what is and isn't an indie?
Personally I think Expedition 33 deserved most of those awards, best game I played this year hands down.
@mazzel @Hi569 @Gaia093 Kepler is not a big publisher, they were set up specifically to support independent studios (like Sandfall) in publishing their games.
But I agree there should be clearer guidance on what is classified as "indie". I would also love to see an award for lower budget indies, or perhaps those self publishing. But where do you draw the line? If you publish via ID@Xbox or get a Game Pass / PS+ bag has Microsoft or Sony just made you not indie? No. But it's a minefield of edge cases. At the end of the day awards are just a bit of fun to celebrate games.
Ah, it's the day after the event where almost everyone is either happy or unhappy with the results. Can't please everyone as thankfully we all different things. Ultimately all these awards are pretty meaningless, plenty of great games went home with nothing, hell plenty of great games didn't even get a nomination.
Same advice as every awards, like what YOU like and don't worry too much about what others think or what gets a trophy. If you loved a game that didn't get a mention shout about it. Share your passion and maybe you will get someone else to play it.
The two art styles are really jarring, they don't go together AT ALL. It feels like two entirely different games, as if they had one design team build one part of the game and another the other with very little collaboration. Still the idea is cool and I hope it works out.
Nopety nope nope. It does look cool, but knowing what I know now about how time consuming these games are, and how they are cynically designed to keep you playing every day, I can't in good conscience start another one.
I'm now down to just Genshin and WuWa, and that's already too much, but have freed up time to play so many better games on my backlog over the last few months. My PlayStation wrap-up was far too focused around these games and that needs a better balance.
@get2sammyb You're not meant to play them all. Worse these games take up so much time that the opportunity cost of putting 400 hours into one of these each year versus maybe 10 other games is a poor deal. We all know this in our hearts, right? But do it anyway.
@PuppetMaster yes! I was wondering if the delay isnāt because they really need more time, but itās because March is stacked! Though another months polish will always be good.
Good. It started pretty well with a LOT of promising trailers but lulled in the middle and then didnāt nail the finish. Also too much CGI not enough gameplay. Lastly too many awards were rushed through.
But there were still a lot of good looking games overall.
@Czar_Khastik Sure... because getting nominated for 12 awards from a global jury of hundreds of outlets and thousands of reviewers is just down to HYPE.
I can understand anyone liking another game more, taste is subjective, but trying to dismiss everybody else's tastes is just close minded.
I have no problem with the adverts costing that much, if studios didn't think it was worth it they wouldn't pay it. But I suspect it's also a sliding scale whereby smaller teams don't pay as much, and as the article alludes to some might be free.
As for tickets. This is hard to solve, you can't invite the whole studios, but perhaps if a game is nominated more than once then you can give another 2 tickets per nomination, which in E33's case would probably cover almost the whole studio!
It's not surprising, but it is disappointing from a gamers perspective. Especially as when the inevitable cost cutting comes and jobs or studios are on the line then those parts of the business they "didn't attribute any value" to are likely to suffer more. I worry for Rocksteady.
@Quintumply Thanks, it does seem like the Pro makes it worse based on reports i've seen.
But it's also often subjective. There are games DF have branded "unplayable" that I have played happily start to finish. Did I notice the performance wasn't perfect? Sure, but it didn't really affect my enjoyment significantly.
Hence it's helpful to also get the view of someone who isn't so obsessive about these things.
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Re: Feature: Did Your Game Awards 2025 Predictions Come True? The Quiz Results Are In
Not sure about your questions here, frankly I can't remember what I put, but of the TGA winners I predicted 23/29 awards correctly.
Re: Promising Anime Arcade Racer Screamer Opens Up PS5 Pre-Orders
I like the idea of this, but the two art styles seem diametrically opposed, they really don't gel at all, as if different teams worked on each with little conferring. Hopefully it works.
Re: Poll: What Are Your Most Anticipated PS5 Games of 2026?
Hard to pick just 5 to be honest. I've got my eyes on at least 25 on that list. If even half of them deliver it will be another strong year.
While I am not the biggest fan of Rockstar's gameplay there is no doubting a new R* game, and even more so a new GTA game, is a seismic event in gaming. Personally I am always fascinated to see what it possible with a comparatively unlimited budget. But it would be nice to see some actual gameplay innovation.
Re: 'If I Don't Belong in the Games Industry, I'll Have to Look Elsewhere': Keita Takashashi Moves Back to Japan After To a T Flopped
I haven't got around to To a T yet but I want to play it, several people who's opinion's I respect had it on their GOTY lists.
Re: All The Game Awards 2025 Winners
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Re: All The Game Awards 2025 Winners
@lazarus11 Iām all for subjective opinions, and if you think KCD2 is a better game, or a better RPG, and deserved the award⦠good for you. As I said, like what you like.
But to try and suggest Expedition 33 isnāt an RPG is some gaslighting nonsense. Itās such a bad take itās hilariously funny.
I have a brain, and after 40 years playing games I know what an RPG is dude⦠and even if I didnāt the Gameās own description is āClair Obscur: Expedition 33 is a turn-based RPG experienceā. Every review I read calls it a role playing game even the RPG Fan website, who you would think knows what an RPG is, gave it 99/100 saying āClair Obscur: Expedition 33 is the single most impressive debut RPG Iāve ever played.ā
But no⦠random guy on the internet says itās ānot an RPGā with absolutely no reasoning. Must be right then. LMFAO!!! š¤£š¤£š¤£
Re: Talking Point: What Are You Playing This Weekend? - Issue 611
Continuing with the Remedy Verse. Having played Alan Wake: Remastered and it's DLC, Alan Wake's American Nightmare, Quantum Break and Control recently I am now moving onto the Control DLC and then Alan Wake 2 for the first time.
Skate Story and Clair Obscur DLC are backup plans if I feel like a breather.
Re: This Is the New Voice of Lara Croft in the PS5 Era of Tomb Raider Games
She has the husky sultry voice for it. Just heard her as Augusta in Wuthering Waves where she does a good job. But this is a different role, hopefully she's great.
Re: Last Chance to Play These 10 PS Plus Games
@LimitedPower Yes. Sonic Frontiers is a completely flawed game but I ended up really liking it overall. Enjoy,
Re: Last Chance to Play These 10 PS Plus Games
@RawnDawn HLTB puts 11-11 at 5 hours for a standard playthrough, 11.5 for a completionist.
Re: PS4 Will Still Get New Games in 2027
Why not? If the game has a low enough technical scope to run on it. Expect to see that for many more years to come. Not every game has to push boundaries.
Re: Poll: Vote for Your PS5 Game of the Year 2025
The Top 3 are easy for me, after that it gets harder.
Re: Unalive Milla Jovovich in Hitman's Next Celebrity Assassination Mission on PS5, PS4
Was that who it was! I didn't even recognise her.
Re: All The Game Awards 2025 Winners
@lazarus11 Clair Obscur is still an RPG and to many still the best RPG this year, which is why it won.
@TheArt Denser doesn't necessarily mean better, KCD2 is great if you like that, but to many it's too hardcore, too impenetrable hence not as good as Expedition 33 to those voting.
I respect you both may disagree, nothing wrong with that, it's subjective opinions at the end of the day. Enjoy what you like.
It's like comparing Forza Horizon and Gran Turismo as best racing game, there are no wrong answers, it's what you enjoy.
Re: Ex-Yakuza Director Reveals Gang of Dragon, Which Is Basically a New AAA Yakuza Game
One of the highlights of the show.
Re: Control Resonant from Remedy Revealed, Out in 2026 for PS5
Re-playing Control right now so this feels very close. A LOT feels very different, but i'm here for it and trust Remedy
Re: Free-to-Play FPS Highguard Closes Out The Game Awards, Coming to PS5 on 26th January
It did look kinda cool, if you like that sort of thing... but I don't so it fell completely flat as a one final thing.
Re: All The Game Awards 2025 Winners
@lazarus11 Depends what you define as an RPG. (Again back to semantics) But I think most would consider it an RPG.
Yet to some "role playing" as a plumber that jumps on people's heads could be considered role playing even if Mario is a platformer, every game is an RPG in that regard. But assuming you have to make decisions to shape the narrative then yet Exp 33 does have that... at least at the end! It also has skill trees, weapon and armour upgrades, turn based menu driven combat. All tropes of RPGs. Not sure you will get many agreeing it isn't. But I'd agree it is RPG-lite compared to something like KCD2 which is about as dense as you'll get.
Re: All The Game Awards 2025 Winners
@Reyzore They wouldn't supply that information. I think it's exceptionally hard to make hard and fast rules here because I can easily see loop holes and edge cases where games may miss out, or be included if you start putting arbitrary lines in the sand like that. It isn't easy.
Whereas it's very easy to say "I don't like something" without having a workable solution.
I'd also push back on your "because these are games that need visibility to survive, many of them" point. I'm not sure that is true here. I'd posit that any indie game that is getting nominated, or is close to getting nominated, for a TGA award will almost certainly have reached some sort of major success, these aren't the games/studios that REALLY need the visibility to survive, it's the ones that haven't seen that success at all. The awards come AFTER the success, they aren't the cause of it. Though obviously being nominated it will help further that success.
Either way. We both agree the criteria should be clarified, but I don't think it will change. Sadly.
Re: Huge Clair Obscur: Expedition 33 Update Out Now on PS5, with New Areas, Fights, Photo Mode
OOH! I thought I had plans this weekend. Might have to change them!
Re: All The Game Awards 2025 Winners
@Reyzore My point is that the definitions need to be better. Like many gaming terms "Indie", "AA" or "AAA" don't have a formal definition.
Sandfall is an Independent studio as they are wholly owned by themselves, the fact they also have funding from elsewhere doesn't change the fact they are independent.
But are they what we would term "indie"? Probably not in my eyes, which is why I said we need better guidance on what is and isn't included here. We've already had Dave the Diver vs Baldurs Gate 3 debacle, and this should have been clarified previously. I agree i'd like to see this focused on even smaller games, or have another award.
But lets also be clear that all the "indie" nominees (except perhaps Hades 2 which I believe was wholly self-funded, a rarity) had funding from larger companies, whether it's Ball X Pit, Blue Prince, Silksong all taking Game Pass / PS+ money and/or government funding, Dispatch with private VC and then Critical Role, Despelote through Microsoft's Developer Acceleration program.
Let me ask you this. How would you define what is and isn't an indie?
Re: Mass Effect-Style Sci-Fi RPG Exodus Returns with an Early 2027 Release Date on PS5
Continues to look very strong. Fingers firmly crossed.
Re: All The Game Awards 2025 Winners
Personally I think Expedition 33 deserved most of those awards, best game I played this year hands down.
@mazzel @Hi569 @Gaia093 Kepler is not a big publisher, they were set up specifically to support independent studios (like Sandfall) in publishing their games.
But I agree there should be clearer guidance on what is classified as "indie". I would also love to see an award for lower budget indies, or perhaps those self publishing. But where do you draw the line? If you publish via ID@Xbox or get a Game Pass / PS+ bag has Microsoft or Sony just made you not indie? No. But it's a minefield of edge cases. At the end of the day awards are just a bit of fun to celebrate games.
Re: All The Game Awards 2025 Winners
Ah, it's the day after the event where almost everyone is either happy or unhappy with the results. Can't please everyone as thankfully we all different things. Ultimately all these awards are pretty meaningless, plenty of great games went home with nothing, hell plenty of great games didn't even get a nomination.
Same advice as every awards, like what YOU like and don't worry too much about what others think or what gets a trophy. If you loved a game that didn't get a mention shout about it. Share your passion and maybe you will get someone else to play it.
Re: Eagerly Anticipated PS5 Arcade Racer Screamer Leans into Its Anime Influences in March
The two art styles are really jarring, they don't go together AT ALL. It feels like two entirely different games, as if they had one design team build one part of the game and another the other with very little collaboration. Still the idea is cool and I hope it works out.
Re: Arknights: Endfield Adds Another Game to the PS5 Gacha Apocalypse in January
Nopety nope nope. It does look cool, but knowing what I know now about how time consuming these games are, and how they are cynically designed to keep you playing every day, I can't in good conscience start another one.
I'm now down to just Genshin and WuWa, and that's already too much, but have freed up time to play so many better games on my backlog over the last few months. My PlayStation wrap-up was far too focused around these games and that needs a better balance.
@get2sammyb You're not meant to play them all. Worse these games take up so much time that the opportunity cost of putting 400 hours into one of these each year versus maybe 10 other games is a poor deal. We all know this in our hearts, right? But do it anyway.
Re: PS5 Exclusive Saros Delayed, But Pre-Orders Are Live Right Now
@PuppetMaster yes! I was wondering if the delay isnāt because they really need more time, but itās because March is stacked! Though another months polish will always be good.
Re: Poll: How Would You Rate The Game Awards 2025?
Good. It started pretty well with a LOT of promising trailers but lulled in the middle and then didnāt nail the finish. Also too much CGI not enough gameplay. Lastly too many awards were rushed through.
But there were still a lot of good looking games overall.
Re: 007 First Light Unveils Lenny Kravitz as a Villain in New Trailer
Seems a jarring choice as I canāt unsee him as Lenny Kravitz, but hopefully it works better in game.
Re: PlayStation Winds Back Time with Awesome 30th Anniversary Watch Collection
Taste is subjective, but these look pretty tacky to me.
Re: Major Monster Hunter Wilds PS5 Performance Improvements Detailed Ahead of Next Week's Update
Good news, but this is almost a year after launch.
@ButterySmooth30FPS @captainsandman r/patientgamers
Re: This Musical RPG's Not Going to Appeal to Everyone, But We're Moving It to the Top of Our PS5 Wishlist
@somnambulance @naruball It's a charming story ably assisted by the Chopin's beautiful score. I'd snap up a remaster.
Re: Want a Three Minute Slot During The Game Awards? That'll Be $1 Million, Please
@Czar_Khastik Sure... because getting nominated for 12 awards from a global jury of hundreds of outlets and thousands of reviewers is just down to HYPE.
I can understand anyone liking another game more, taste is subjective, but trying to dismiss everybody else's tastes is just close minded.
Re: Want a Three Minute Slot During The Game Awards? That'll Be $1 Million, Please
I have no problem with the adverts costing that much, if studios didn't think it was worth it they wouldn't pay it. But I suspect it's also a sliding scale whereby smaller teams don't pay as much, and as the article alludes to some might be free.
As for tickets. This is hard to solve, you can't invite the whole studios, but perhaps if a game is nominated more than once then you can give another 2 tickets per nomination, which in E33's case would probably cover almost the whole studio!
Re: The Witness, Braid Creator Teases New Game Reveal at The Game Awards
I'm bitterly disappointed that his next project is a Sokoban (box pushing) puzzle game.
Re: What Time Is The Game Awards 2025?
If it's similar length to previous years i'll be struggling to stay awake till around 3:30am when it finishes. But i'll try.
Re: Jim Ward, Voice of Ratchet & Clank's Captain Qwark, Has Passed Away
Sad to hear. Thank you Jim, and have a qwarktastic afterlife.
Re: Feature: Predict The Game Awards 2025 with Our 20 Question Quiz
@Balaam_ This is BAIT. (comes in, throws hand grenade, leaves) LOL
Re: This Musical RPG's Not Going to Appeal to Everyone, But We're Moving It to the Top of Our PS5 Wishlist
Doesn't really look like my cup of Tea, but it is fresh.
Also Eternal Sonata never understood why thats never been remastered, or why other games didn't use classical music like this, it was inspired.
Re: Netflix Says Warner Bros Games Doesn't Hold 'Any Value' in $82 Billion Acquisition
It's not surprising, but it is disappointing from a gamers perspective. Especially as when the inevitable cost cutting comes and jobs or studios are on the line then those parts of the business they "didn't attribute any value" to are likely to suffer more. I worry for Rocksteady.
Re: 3 PS Plus Extra, Premium Games for December 2025 Leaked Early
Nice! All 3 fall into that category for me of "interested but not enough to buy" that is great for services like this.
Re: Sony Hypes Halo PS5 in Its Hot Games of 2026 Trailer
Cats and dogs.
Re: PlayStation Teases 2026 PS5 Games in New Trailer
Looks like a strong year already, and that's before all the indie games that will probably be my GOTYs like the last few years.
Re: PlayStation Wrap-Up 2025 Live Now, Get Your Gaming Stats for the Year
Note to self: Really need to play less hours in gacha games
Re: Rumour: Mystery Game Awards Reveal May Be a New Divinity RPG, as Original Sin 2 PS5 Port Leaks
I HOPE it's for something else as someone that isn't particularly into top down CRPGs. But I suppose a new Divinity could be something else.
Re: 'The Development Speed Is Amazing': Shuhei Yoshida Says Japanese Studios Can't Keep Pace with China
Japan... who are known for staff sleeping under desks and a culture of overwork thinks Chinese staff can outwork them? Something ain't mathing.
Re: Fallout Star Ella Purnell Would Rather Play Concrete Genie Than GTA 6
She has great taste. Shame about Pixelopus, but it sounded like their next project wasn't coming together after 4 years.
Re: Mini Review: Skate Story (PS5) - The Most Unique, Most Stylish Skateboarding Game to Date
@Quintumply Thanks, it does seem like the Pro makes it worse based on reports i've seen.
But it's also often subjective. There are games DF have branded "unplayable" that I have played happily start to finish. Did I notice the performance wasn't perfect? Sure, but it didn't really affect my enjoyment significantly.
Hence it's helpful to also get the view of someone who isn't so obsessive about these things.
Re: Mini Review: Skate Story (PS5) - The Most Unique, Most Stylish Skateboarding Game to Date
@Quintumply Thanks for the review. How did you find the performance?
Re: Xbox Ruthlessly Cancelled Perfect Dark, But Take-Two Just Hired Its Directors
Hopefully that means we get a new immersive sim next gen! š¤